Busy Day at Sutterby - an O Gauge Garden Railway
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- čas přidán 3. 11. 2014
- A Busy Day at Sutterby Junction.
Sutterby Junction is a fictitious main line station on an extensive O Gauge main line garden layout, loosely based on a flavour of the ECML in the late 1930's to late 40’s. A scale 2 miles run round the garden enables Pacifics and the like to stretch their legs with scale length trains at scale speeds of up to 90+mph and long goods trains to trundle round to their hearts content.
The main track work is now complete, just the branch line to be rebuilt. Whilst there is still a good bit of work to be done around the railway in the form of scenic work, the main line is now fully operational. Comprising mainly of twin track, with up to four and six tracks wide in a number of places for around 50% of the layout, giving excellent operational opportunities. Long approaches to the main station (housed indoors) and multiple roads in the cutting area, allow plenty of scope for complex running.
One of the main features of this railway is the emphasis on scenic work, something usually only carried out on indoor railways and is very rarely attempted on garden railways. The scenic side is being constantly improved, to give a little more “real feel” to an outside line.
The railway is run quite a bit during the summer months (good weather permitting) and remains in place throughout the year, only the outside buildings being taken in in the winter from around the end of November to beginning of March.
There are one or two other items added to give a little more "realism" to the models. The smoke effect at the tunnel exit and, on a few occasions, a lively fire can be seen in the cab of the V2, especially when stood off the end of the platform at Orby Bank. - Zábava
Lovely layout, especially like the smoke coming out of the tunnel.Nice touch.
This is a stunning and very beautiful railway. With just one glance you can see the massive amount of hard work that's been put into all of it. What a wonderful thing to build into a marvellous setting like your garden. It must be such a pleasure on a nice summer afternoon, watching these fantastic models running on the lines. Thank you so much for letting us into your garden to see your incredible creation. I very real pleasure to view.
+100SteveB Thank you Steve. It's nice to get a little praise now and then. Hopefully some more vids soon. GeoffB
Such a beautiful hobby. Love watching these videos.
Thanks for the great satisfying miniture Railway.
What a superb model railway. Thank you for showing us.
Very impressive indeed. Really enjoyed my view
I like the tunnel smoke. That works well.
This is absolutely fantastic.
beautiful trains and garden. a really nice setting . thanks for sharing
Just brilliant thanks for sharing
Superb! Quite magnificent;having a garden railway myself I can appreciate the sheer amount of effort that has gone into it.
Thank you for a very good video as well.
Yours Peter.
Spectacular!Nice job😎👍
Very cool Garden Rail in O Scale.
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Absolutely awesome, it looks like a museum !
simply magnificent, easily one of the best garden railways I've ever seen
Just amazing!
Marvellous layout.
What a wonderful garden! :-D
Looks real to me, fantastic work
AMAZING!! Also so happy no silly background music The trains are chimes in themselves.
James. Thanks for your encouraging comments - and yukky music is crap, I agree!
Absolutely delightful! :-)
Simply wonderful - a dream
Excellent!
Beautiful..😀👍
Amazing train tour, thnx! :-)
Hi I would just like to say thank you for a lovely video wish it was in my garden ,Graham.
Cool layout that'll be awesome when it's completed & some sweet trains! A lot of time & money has obviously been put into this railway.
Very nice video and fun to watch. Have a nice day.
Great 👍 well looked after layout.sounds fantastic
It's very tidy and this layout is out standing to watch ⌚️ and 👀 looks fantastic
What an outstanding layout! Love the scenery and models you have as well!
Many thanks for your kind words. The video is a few years old now, more has been updated in the scenery and the engines and rolling stock since then - some are on youtube on this channel.
@@GBRailways your welcome! You much deserve these kind words for such an outstanding layout!
Brilliant! Looks so damn real!
Wonderful layout and wonderfully shot! Subbed for more!
Nice set... Love the "Blood & Custard" livery
Thank you for the reply and the information on the smoke.....Chuff-Chuff..!
Superb! 👍👍👍👍👍
Superb garden railway. I would love O gauge.
Schöne Anlage, Der qualmende Tunnel ist super.
i am impressed!!!!..nice camera work to boot!!!
I love your videos do more please
That tunnel steam effect was awsome
Absolutely stunning railway..Was very pleasantly surprised to see a P2 2-8-2with the A4 body shape.
+Ian Hilpus Thank you - and the only way a P2 should be in my opinion! 8-)
The one scene inside with the stairways looks like it came out of an old Sherlock Homes movie.
Amazing
This is amazing. I want to build a ECML 80's era layout in my garden as grew up next to the line. I'm just at the planning stages.
Definitely go for it - and do take loads of advice from people who have actually built one - not the armchair builders who assume! You'll really enjoy the outdoor running.
Nicely done video and layout. I like the coaches with the individual passenger doors. An idea the should come back
Excellent garden railway. The Harz narrow gauge railways are my theme in the garden.
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なにこれ....かっこよすぎんだろ....❗
I like it. I use also live steam at my garden railway
Like the new video.Thanks
Great Loco`s & video`s...................D.R.M................
nice steam trains mate
Brings a whole new meaning to the problem of leaves on the line.. 🤔🤦🏼♂️
Superb I want one!
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I am very impressed by the following:
1. The sound is very real.
2. The smoke is very real.
3. The long streches of track and easy bends are very real.
4. You seem to have got the speed right, it gives a very realistic impression.
5. And I saw the fire under the kedle in the stationary locomotive! Fine detail!
What I would like to see?
Very slow start from platform, piston going very slowly, and slow breaking to platfomr with brakes wining (a sound project)
I appreciate your enormous effort.
Best Regards
S M Poulsen
Thanks for the nice comments. If you watch Salmon Trout on a running in turn you will see it start off from the platform. I have other footage waiting for me to find time to edit - eventually I'll get it there - including the squealing brakes! 8-)
Magnificent! Currently my favourite garden layout. Regarding the sound, outdoors is bound to affect it, also the recording device used for the video, plus the speakers in our own PCs/laptops/smartphones, etc. Although an ECML man, I'm very fond of Black 5s and Stanier Pacifics which I run at *playtime* on my own layout, unfortunately stuck in development for health reasons. But back to the job - again - magnificent. I look forward to its further scenic development.
Tony.
+redcapcrane
Many thanks Tony. Yes, the scenic is being developed by the day - and night sometimes! It's a few years away from being what I would consider satisfactory, but there's always something to do and to aim for. There will be future vids - one, hopefully, will be put together at the end of this season.
+GBRailways Yes, I could see the obvious unfinished areas around the edges, bridges, etc; but the future is very promising. I look forward to it (Sometime, I wouldn't mind seeing a little more of the indoor station; there were some nice architectural shots) Till then... :-)
Hi Tony.
Since you've asked, the next vid may well include some more of the inside area - this is the area that I'm currently concentrating on - it's a lot bigger job than I ever thought - still, very satisfying when it's taking shape. As all the building in the station and town are local to me everything is scratch built, so the "quick kits" (apart from some of the lineside huts, etc.) just won't do the job. Which is what makes it all the more interesting and unique. GBR
Excellent! Looking forward to it.
A great layout, but I have to say I don't like sound with model railways. I had to turn it down. It's irritating. I've never yet heard a sound device sound like a real train. A real train passes through at atmosphere, of birds cheeping, etc. The rails, the coaches, everything makes sound. And the fact that there is no real steam emphasises that it's a model.
I gave you your 1000th like and am your 644th subscriber :-)
Thank you Lord Debrick - hopefully getting the railway running again soon - so then some more vids!
I've always been both impressed and a bit dubious of smaller-scale garden railroads. Impressed because it's really difficult to get reliable operation out of the smaller scales when operating outdoors. Dubious because unlike G and 1 scale equipment, the smaller scales generally aren't built with running in a dirty environment in mind - smaller scale motive power tends to feature partially exposed gears and motors and the nickel-silver rail material used on most common rail codes is designed more for conductivity than durability.
Sorry - and your point is? The reliability of this garden railway is quite good, as you can see from the vids - although, due to health constraints, it hasn't been run that regularly of recent few years, but I do get to run, with help from good friends about 4 times or so a year. When running regularly very little maintenance is required apart from a good rail clean at the start of every session, otherwis points and track work fine - and on DCC too!
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My point is that I'm both impressed and very surprised at how well this layout works. It's not easy to make scales smaller than 1 scale work well outdoors because of the differences in construction methods for the motive power.
@@VestedUTuber Ah, I see. Well, thank you for your positive comments. Basically, attention to detail in how robustly it was built and planning for good electrical feeds are much the key factors here. It has paid dividens asn it has been running for around 16 years now, giving much enjoyment to quite a few people. It still has lot of things to be finished - and some probably never will be - but that is the nature of the beast.😊
Love this,can you please explain the steam from "Seagull" coming out of the tunnel
Hi Fred. It's just a little "special effects" that I've added. It is basically an el-cheapo disco smoke generator that discharges into the upper part of the tunnel. The smoke unit is triggered by the train cutting a light beam to a sensor in the tunnel. It only comes on for a second or so and resets after 10 secs (to allow the train to pass through without continuously triggering) as any longer fills the garden with smoke. It works fine on a calm day and the smoke will come out of either end with the train, but on a windy day it is less effective.
Superb....what kind of tracks are you using to survive outside.
Thank You very much for sharing your layout....outdoor O gauge is rather a rare sight.
Patrick - thanks for the comments - the track is Peco streamline - some of it has been outside now for around 20 years.
Didn't know they still made two rail O gauge track and trains,more realistic as well
This is quite brillint - but one comment - the last carriage in a train should be showing a tail lamp to indicate to the signalman that the train is still complete.
Hello David. Yes, you are right - and with goods too. Well, there's always something that you forget ....! Hmmm! Still, there's so much still t do that it's what and where it gets done.8-))
Great layout and camera work. One question - when will you do a cab view tour? With a layout like this, I would love to see one!
There is one at czcams.com/video/CD8Yu54FLj0/video.html from behind the A4 - but it is a few years old now (a lot been done since) and another at czcams.com/video/6NR8qWXYGqE/video.html on the rear of the train pulled by A3 Salmon Trout. More to come later.
Who remembers the smell of loco smoke in tunnels?
Utterly beautiful- is the A4 live steam? Very convincing if not👍
Hello David. No, it's DCC electric. A disco smoke unit supplies a puff of smoke into the tunnel as locos pass through. Just a little gimmick - but not on a windy day - blows the smoke out the wrong end!🤣
10 out of 10 railway
Where did you get the locomotives and if so do they got almost every GWR locomotives too?
Magnifique!!!! ( is that how u spell it ? )
I wonder if, in OO gauge indoor layouts, a smoke unit could be installed inside the tunnel mouth a little? A couple of puffs activated as the train is coming out, may go some way to provide a little bit of the realism beautifully shown in this video?
I'm sure it could. The smoke unit in this video is a Disco smoke unit off ebay - a light sensor switch in the tunnel for just 1 second of smoke and switched off for ten seconds to allow the train to pass
- any longer and the thing fills the garden - and the neighbours too!!
Absolutely fabulous. Are you open to the public? 👍
Hello Paul. Unfortunately not - the railway is situated in a completely enclosed garden so keeps the deliquents out. Only friends and members of model railway groups are invited. To open to the public would invite too many undesirables! Sorry. If you are a member of a model railway group, then you could get in touch via them.
Best layout I’ve seen. The work in that is just awesome. I’m trying to build a small one in the garden . May I ask how did you make everything like the station , signal box etc that doesn’t rot in the wet.
I’ve tried making a platform and the rain just destroyed it after a while. What are yours made from ?
I keep looking back at yours and it’s just stunning.
Thanks for sharing it.
All the best
Duncan 👍🏻🚂
Hello Duncan. Thanks for the nice comments - it really lifts the spirits! The station buildings and the goods shed and signal boxes are basically made from cement and added bargeboards, etc are from styrene sheet. Finials are nickel silver 1/8" squares rod turned up in the lathe. The signal box is made from uPVC window ledge material from builder's merchants with added detail machined from acrylic sheet. Huts are from Skytrex Ltd and are in resin. Platforms are made in 18mmOSB ply and well coated in Cuprinol and then the overlap portion of torch-on roofing felt is applied to seal the top surface and made to look like ashpalt surface. The road over bridge is from uPVC window ledges and covered in Slaters embossed brick plasticard as is the signal box All buildings and pltforms apart from the large signal box are out all summer and taken in during the winter period - end November to end March. Hope this helps. Good luck with your project.
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Thanks so much for replying, and with so much detail. That has helped me so much. Your obviously very talented at what you do as those models are just outstanding.
Being on the edge of Bodmin moor the weather is pretty rubbish at this time of year so need good gear on the layout.
Many thanks again my friend 👍🏻👍🏻🚂🚂
Duncan.
@@duncan1945 Hi Duncan. Torch-on roofing felt is great also for the baseboards. I always lay any torch-on when it is warm and also any track laying in warm weather as the felt will seal better if you nail the track down. Regards,
GeoffB
@@GBRailways
Hi Geoff,
Your right about the warmer weather. I had a look at the torch on felt , blimey not cheap is it !!!!!
I’ve only got two platforms to cover so can’t warrant a roll 😂.
Do you think if I cover the platforms in that black bitumen
Paint it might stick. ?
Sorry about separating message I pushed the wrong button 😂😂
Thanks again for your help.
Forgot to ask , is your layout open to the public?
All the best
Duncan.
A dream in the real life. Awesome. What kind of track did you use and how do you maintain it against the weather?
Hi John. Thanks for the comments - yes, it is pretty much a dream - still in a long process of building - no rest for the wicked!! The track is mainly Peco outside with some of the point work scratch built for the long radius of fast switches - some from pcb sleepering and some from C&L components. Inside the shed area, that is Peco for the main track and a mix of points, scratch built to fit the curves and meanders of the track layout.
Maintenance is not too bad - the trackwork is pretty stable and fairly weatherproof - a lot of the track has been out there some 20 years. Only pain really, is cleaning the track before a running session - about 1/2 hour or so with a rubberised abrasive block, followed along with a piece of old jeans on a cork block to remove any rubber residue. Oh yes, and the removal of seagull crap and leaves. All point motors are hidden under buildings (mainly resin) and under the cutting sides. They stay out all summer and are only taken in in the wetter winter periods.
GBRailways Everything looks great. The only thing that is missing to make it a realistic is a lot of train signals
Impressive!
The signalling is being added - but there is a lot of work to do before they get put in place.
GB/ is it peco or piko?..i am new to railroading..i just bought an "O" gauge and pondering a "g' gauge for outside or just run the "o" outside..and thanks your setup is very nice..you inspire others to the possibilities of what can be accomplished..thanks
Dusty locomotives and (naturally?) weathered carriages; clever! As close to the real thing as model trains can be!
I'm wondering, do these trains run on Lionel's o scale tracks?
a very great railway! how much time did it take to build ?
+10HERBERT
Hi, It's been built over the period of around 10years - finding the time whilst working is often a problem. There's still a lot of work to do but it's coming on steadily. Should be another video of the railway this backend - after the running season has ended.
The only thing missing is smoke generators, then its perfect!
Hello Japalloo. Yes that would be good, but so far, I have only come across one from Germany that is good enough to look real - but they are for gauge1, so a little large for O gauge. Have been looking at designing something myself, but there are too many other priorities to keep my mind on at the moment. Thanks for your nice comments.
is that live steam or remote controlled?
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Looks great but no train is stopping on railway station. You can make the play realistic.
Details please about the tunnel smoke effect...........
couple of queries , please clarify . 1) which company train models are these ? 2 ) how do the get power to run ? Amazing work on layout , which place is this ?
They are mainly either kit built or scratch (hand) built. Some were made by SanCheng - Finescalebrass - but have now ceased trading due to retirement. The power is through the rails via DCC (Digital).
Thanks for clarification
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Ball point how much money to replicate something like this?...subbed do you run diesels?
Simon. What a question. I've no idea and would probably frighten my self silly if I tried to work it out. It has been built over a number of years and supplies/track/parts bought as needed so spread over the time didn't seem too much. Oh yes - a hell of a lot of hard work!!
Quick calcs for you - over 400 yards of Peco track and over 40 points (mostly hand built to suit) at between £45 to £80 each. DCC equipment - £500+ - baseboards and support beams plus brick piers - I have no idea the cost and the shed is over £1200 without all the locos and rolling stock plus scenery, cuttings, bridges, buildings, etc. And, NO, I don't run diesels - the layout is in pure steam days of the late mid 30s, so purely steam. Hope that helps. 8-))
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Ever thought of getting a B1 or Q6 with a long minerals train to go with it?
+Peckfield Junction They are on the "build" list - now we have 3 V2's working the line this year - see vid to be done soon of this season - and some more A3's and A4's for next season.
So how is the track protected in adverse weather?
It isn't - it's just left out in all weathers - it is nickel silver rails on plastic sleepers - Peco. The top of the rails are lightly abraded to remove any dirt and surface oxidising to get good pickup before every running session.
Wich model is that black 5? Wich brand? And where can i buy one?
Hi. It is a kit-built model from many years ago - the kit manufacturer is no longer around. However, you may be able to get one from someone like Gladiator Models or David Andrew in the UK - find their websites through Gauge O Guild website under traders. Finescale Brass used to do RTR but no longer around, however, there are a few available second-hand.
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What are the A4's & P2 Golden Age or Lovelace.
+colin palmer Hi. The A4 is scratch built and has now done over 250 real miles round the garden and is currently in the works for a full overhaul. The P2, unfortunately, is a Loveless one - it's the worse engine I have ever purchased, with so many faults it is unbelievable - and apparently, I'm not the only one to have these faults - they are just not built to do any serious running. I purchased it off a dear old friend's estate (the engine had not done much running), so didn't pay anywhere near the Loveless price. I spent quite a few weeks re-machining lots of the running gear and updating and modifying various parts to get a reasonable runner. All I can say is that I'm glad that I didn't pay the full price for it! GB
Ah, England and money. But what happens when it snows? Service disruption or plow ahead?
England yes, but money - NO. This railway has not had money thrown at it - it's shear hard work and a lot of innovative thinking and use of readily available materials. Most engines and rolling stock are either scratch or kit built. No, we don't have a snow plough - we only run in the summer months - winter is building time.
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Nice layout, but camera work is a little shaky at times.
It is. The video is put together from snatched vids on camera and phone - I should do one using a proper video camera and tripod. Hmmm - "must do better"!! 8-))
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Sure you didnt put deisel sound chips in those steam engnes
Have you ever heard a steam loco at speed - they just purr when notched up! Diesels clatter!
Too bad they don't have these British steam trains in 3 rail O Scale.
Try AceTrains - they are coarse scale and I'm not sure, but I think they do 3 rail. Check the website
What if it rains?
We are only fair weather pilots! Rain doesn't scale so it gets wetter than a shower would do to us in real life. We have had the odd shower on a running day - when it's finished, we simply wipe round with some old cloths to dry the track and then continue.
GBRailways oh 👌
What's the layout dimensions?
It's a scale 2 miles continuous - 80 yards in our world. Across the garden it's approx 75 feet x 40feet.
Steam sound reproduction still has a long way to go!
***** These are old sound chips
Alexander Cox Only the A4 one is an old (ESU 3.5) chip - the others are new - V4.0s.
They don't sound bad at all in my opinion.
Don't improve the scenery, you'll wear the colour out completely. The Branch Line needs completion, let's hope it's done before Christmas. Children love riding the rails on a Santa Special train. The scenery is colourful enough already; any more improvements will ruin the effect. It's real enough as it is; don't touch it any more, or it'll be forever spoiled. You should be happy with your railway the way it is, I am. From now on, no more improvements are to take place. You've done enough and you don't need to do anything else except complete the Branch Line. Trust me, you should be proud of what you've done and keep it the way it is.
Thank you Kelly. There are constant additions to finish off where only part has been done - and repairs where the wildlife constantly attack the railway!. The outside is now virtually complete - just a couple of long retaining walls along the edge of the baseboard as protection for stock falling off where the sidings are too close to the edge. The "Keadby Bridge" has to be finished - eventually (girder work) - and the extra span on the low arch red bridge to be constructed (the parts are done awaiting "aroundtuit"! The town area is now complete in the main shed and I will probably add a short vid of this soon. The station needs ballasting and the platform furniture adding - then it's virtually done. Thanks for your nice comments - must admit, I'm pretty pleased with the outside scenery.
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Too bad you didn't install any signals!
There are some signals ready for installation, but it's a lack of available time. The railway is built and maintained by just me - no club or outside help - so it's a matter of "aroundtuit" - and they're hard to find. There is other more pressing work being undertaken - finish town buildings and ballasting track where possible, new CBUS system to be installed for outside point work and signals, let alone new loco and carriage builds and refurbishing them, but it all takes a tremendous amount of time. I will get there - someday.
@@GBRailways Thanks for your answer, by the way, I love the realistic length of your passenger trains!
@@vooropfamilienaam872 Thank you - as the line is loosely based on the ECML, I had to have all manner of trains running - and the 10 and 12 coach trains behind the pacifics are as run on the real thing. Hopefully, more updates coming later in the year.
Get a DP2 and some Deltics, 47's and Peaks and 40's.............make it 1970
+kelly And ruin a perfectly good railway ......!! NO CHANCE!!