Why Are Old School Skateboards Cool Again?
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I think it’s also due to barriers disappearing regarding what is and isn’t cool in skateboarding, paired with older former skaters getting back into it because “being too old” to skate isn’t a thing anymore.
Ive been noticing that too. Everyones mall grabbing cuz people are sick of holding the board uncomfortably just so they aren't called a poser
@@m0shpit Tired of grip thumb and torn shirts.
@@matthewayres1104 righttt especially that thumb
Yeeeeeeeee
I think its great that everyones all slowly starting to not give a crap of whats cool and the aesthetics of everything to just actually enjoying the fucking actual activity and having fun with it like how its meant to be
At 56 with bad legs, i don't skate anymore, but I'm partial to those old 80's style boards. I used to bomb parking garages on my Black Flag "Joan Crawford board. I once saw a Rodney Mullen video and set out to try some flips on it, long before kickflips were a standard thing, to little success. I miss skating though. I bought a longboard 10 years ago, but can't stand on it anymore. Oh well, thanks for a trip down memory lane John.
Much love og
I’m 46 and recently got my old Powell Peraltas and Sims boards out again
At 52, I feel you, but I just noticed a little local skatepark that nobody uses as we live in a more rural setting now.
Every time I pass it, I consider hitting up the skate shop and getting back at it.
I stopped around the time technicality started to dominate over style and aggression.
Don't get me wrong, Mullen is my all time favorite and personally think he is the GOAT simply because he basically invented all the flip and spin variations that seem ubiquitous today, but a guy like Vallely just brought brute force and aggression to street skating, and guys like Hosoi and Cab just had that effortless style that made them something to watch.
Maybe start really cautiously, and ease back into some moves. People keep telling me it gets easier to move these aching joints when you use them 😆. Just have to start working on my story for the inevitable ER visit 😂.
The Santa Cruz boards that are basically a combo between the old school and popsicle are PERFECT for long distance street skating. Throw some 58 spitfire wheels on and it can do all the tricks you need but it’s also gives you more stability to cruise (also shout out to Franky from primitive riding an egg shaped 9inch deck those are dope too)
Do you have 1 on mind specifically. Im really new to skating and thinking about a more comfortabele street setup, also for rougher roads.
@@jeroenbeskers3012 my street setup at the moment is a 9.0 Element deck (Santa cruz makes 9 also) standard popsicle shape, Independent hollow trucks, Bronson g3 bearing, Spitfire full conical 58m wheels and grizzly grip (no different than any other grip) I’ll warn you tho this is a BIG setup and most ppl wouldn’t go past an 8.5. I like it because I’m 6’1 and have size 13 feet so a bigger board feel normal to me and seeing franky from primitive crush on a 9.1 deck. The big wheels and big deck and wide trucks help on rougher ground imo. I wouldn’t get a shaped deck like the Santa Cruz ones I talked about in my first comment if you’re new to skating, I think a popsicle shape is better at first.
In the '80s we would ride our skateboards for miles to someone's ramp and then write them back home haha
Love that shape! Thanks for skating a shaped board and helping show how fun they are! 🖤🖤🖤
This man ☝🏼 he’s the reason old school boards are cool again! Chris RIPS!! 💀🖤
you are the first person that comes to mind when i see someone at my local park skating a old school shaped deck! keep killin it chris 🖤
you’re that fucking dude chris
YOU are the man that brought them back and Kills it.
You make me want a shaped board so badly man!
Siiick 🔥 I grew up with this kind of shape. I had a Mike McGill board. Nowadays what confuses me the most with flat nose boards is just throwing down the board and mounting it with the front foot. I can’t “feel” my foot position like on a popsticle board, so I’m sometimes mounting it a little too far out on the nose. It feels kinda scary. With a modern street board feet just fall into place because I can feel the nose rise.
Dipping between your digitone vids and John's skateboarding, what a wonderful friday!
@@TheKnowlesspot ❤ high five!
Lmao I still own all them boards!
I usually put bolts that stick out a bit so that I know where my front foot is
My first board was my dads old board Mike Mcgills first pro board with the fighter jet. That thing was fresh when I got it and encased in ice and snow when I left it whoops! Small shop in town has one on display so I can at least pretend I didn’t destroy mine worth so much lol
The answer is simple ..They are insanely nostalgic...their shape..The cool old school graphic..They are just insane..
I like to think that shaped boards have a bit more personality nowadays, especially with the graphics. Also a lot of people don’t understand that some people feel better skatiing old school or shaped decks
Yeah, I used to skate an 8” popsicle and I felt it was a bit boring and I felt it was way too small so I tried a 9” popsicle from Powell perelta then I saw they did the shaped decks so I got one of those and I’ve been skating one since
@@jack_r9875 How does the size board you skate classify as boring?
@@johnmeehan7884 just felt like trying something a bit different and out of what is what most people skate. I wouldn’t say boring was the correct term tbh wrong phrasing on my part there
I skated one of these old school decks, for the hell of it, a few boards back, and I remember it being poppier than a usual board, but harder to do any flip tricks, because of the lack of concave. I didn’t like that I couldn’t do tricks that require an actual nose, and that was pretty much my main issue with it. I thought it was really fun for transition skating, tho!
So hyped to see you try this out! If anyone is thinking about any shapes, Brand -X - Toxic has some killer shapes that are the perfect blend between popsicle kicks, but old school shapes. I filmed a video similar to this that I would love you to check out!, but I'm so hyped to here you paint the old school decks in such a great light! Keep on killing it!
in the last few years i have ridden normal 8.25 went to 7.5 settled on 7.75 for a while skated a 8.0 true twin bought a freestyle complete. Now I'm ridding a 9.25 Natas shaped board which has incredible nollie pop for some reason ( it has a tapered nose). Fair to say I have a varied quiver of boards to chose from, Now I'm thinking I should just press my own decks and truly go wild with experimenting with different shapes, wheelbases ect.
All about the old school decks. 👍🏻
Blockhead’s Sam Cunningham “snake eye” deck is still my all time favorite.
Old school boards weren’t cool when I coming up in grade 6. There was no old school shapes on Tony Hawk Pro Skater. Now I’m 31. Andy Anderson makes it look cool but he’s a completely different beast
Every trick was sick and so clean
For the backflip, it’s looking good. Next step imagine using your belly muscles more to pull your hips and legs around faster mid air.
you also like skating yay
I didn't know John skated 8.25, I thought he skated heaps smaller for some reason 😂 damn I skate the same size board as my favourite skater let's gooo
To me, old-school fish-boards are supposed to be like half-way between a longboard and trick board. They're supposed to have bigger, wider wheels with a wider turning radius. They're supposed to coast and retain speed longer.
They're supposed to be small enough to still be able to "thrash".
Built for skating around the city and thrashing it up wherever you go.
My first skateboard was just polished wood, it was heavy and I don't think griptape was a thing, or I didn't know about it. My dad roughed up the surface with sandpaper so that it wasn't so slippery 🤣Haha I'm so old 😅
Yabbut did your original boards have clay wheels? Mine did.
If anyone wants to see high Ollies without a nose, go watch some of Natas’ parts from Wheels or Streets of Fire.
Do you read my mind? Just as I was about to get into street skating and old school boards you make a video on it as well. Beautiful and Powell reissues are definitely my fave. I do want a Santa Cruz tho because why not mix it up
i’ve been so obsessed with old school skateboarding and curbs n shit loll i’m so glad u made this video
I had a hammerhead re-issue and I would sometimes clip my ankle when pushing. I just picked up a 9.13 Anderson Flight Deck and it's I think a pretty great compromise on having the comfort of a wider board, but better manoeuvrability. It's also just a pretty unique and pretty sick board.
Welcome and Madness have some fun shapes too.
The 80' shapes,graphix were the best! All fun,always new n interesting shapes to try,SKULL SKATES die hard!!!!
Agreed.
Looking back on growing up skating in the late 80s was that most pro models had their own shapes. I love that you could tell who’s deck it was just by the shape.
My favorite was my Tony Magnusson, Alien, hell-concave, from H-Street. Very easy to recognize from the top.
@@amind1317 H Street always had cool shit
@butterblood The top graphic was so big and was 10 times cooler than the graphic on the bottom I couldn't put grip tape on it, and was crazy slippery, because I needed everyone to see how cool the top graphic was. lol!
I started skating back in 1986, and had 2 of those Steve Saiz, boards, second hand. Love the old school shapes, just didn't like that board shape too much. I prefer the Welinder Nordic Skull shape better.
So I have three sets ups. One of them is an old skool Skateboard like that. Santa cruz Peter Dunn re-issued
It's a bigger board I have an inch riser pads and wide independent trucks bones medium bushings spitfire classic bearing and Slime ball wheels.
I use that board mainly for the vert because I'm learning that it's really easy to go up and down and for the park cuz I like riding the bowls.
My other set up is a freestyle popsicle. Totally different because I'm riding freestyle tighter trucks and bushings and freestyle wheels...
I definitely love old-school skateboards and that's cool there making a come back.
Awesome channel.
first off ur so impressive. uve done so many great things. very great channel. also with the backflips, i have always struggled doing standing backflips even though ive done a fair amount of springboard diving and am used to the backwards motion. I recently have been able to do a round off to backflip instead. it looks cooler and i think is easier. so practice kart wheels and landing on both hands and maybe the backflip progression will continue
The re issues with a 15" to 20" wheelbase are perfect for the Waterborne high performance surfskate conversion kit to emulate a high performance short board surf experience.
I love old school setups even though I didn’t grow up skating boards like this. Old school for me is super tech tiny wheels 7.5 . I don’t see myself ever getting my 90s board again. now Im older and only skate really skate transition these wider 80s deck are perfect.
Hi John. Try the eighties board backwards for nollie flip. I was skating when noses were 😊 one inch long 😊 and even on popsicle decks I always pop off the tail even for nollie
I started skating when boards had all those shapes and they were ok. I really liked the G&S Neil Blender. It had a bit more of a nose than most boards back then, but when the popsicle decks came out, I definitely preferred them, especially for nose slides.
I feel nostalgia about "the old days" lol, but I have no interest in going back to the old decks. The newer decks, to me, just feel more ergonomic and lighter.
Yeah, I had a few McGill's back in the day. When Miller dropped his decks on Planet Earth I immediately grabbed one as soon as I could find one, because they had noses. Still shaped decks though. But damn, I loved the noses. When I got back into it a couple summers ago I grabbed a couple popsicles, I just don't love them as much as shaped decks, it doesn't feel the same for me mentally. But I fully and totally understand why popsicles have stood the test of time.
@@andrewanderson1988 yeah I totally get that. Even though I prefer the newer decks, I admit the old school decks had unique character, where you could tell what board it was by the shape without even seeing the graphic. You could recognize a Hosoi from like 50 ft, lol
@@marsbase3729 I ended up picking up a Madness and a couple Welcome shapes, as well as the Anderson deck and I do love them. Modern concave and noses, but with fun shapes
Hey John, I was the guy that said hi to you today near TCC. I have no idea why, but I got super nervous, hahaha! Anyway, super cool to see you in person. Love the video as always.
Got an old (not used) Dog Town in my closet ,might go skate it.
It’s a bit tricky getting use to kick turn when skating vert with it ,since the balance is different.
I usually skate my 8’5 -9’30-10 inch boards (modern shape ) when park skating.
Loved this
Dude I haven’t been so pump for a truck I didn’t even try. When you landed the fakie krooked grind with the old skool board had a pump my fist in the air moment in a airport. Nicely done.
Im into it because even when I was young I wasnt that good at tricks and mostly used it to cruse so it makes sense that after not skating 15 years I dont need a trick board but dont want a long board and I wear a 13 size shoe so a wider deck fits me better these days. I was born in the early 80s and these where the boards from when I was like 4, 5 and 6 years old before the popsicle decks took over. I like that 80s shit. Back to the future board style.
Hey John! Love what you're doing as always, been interested in the decks powell have been doing for a while now.
Would you ever consider doing some kind of trick tip videos, paid or otherwise? I would love to see a breakdown of how you think and move when doing tricks. The steez you have skating is unreal and super fun to watch!
Have a good day man!
It's nice to see the old school deck get a whole test on ollies and other tricks. I got this old school deck recently and I was worried it was a waste but I'm glad it's not too hard to do tricks on it
I'm old, today I can buy a lot of the things I couldn't as a kid. I grew up on everything Powell. I had the welinder, underhill ( r.i.p.). All hand me downs, mom got me my first set up, broke my collar bone, no more boards. I have several set ups. And really several are reissues, that I couldn't get as a kid. Got a Lucero on Indy, a caballero on Indys. I really try to use them. They're just beautiful.... But my everyday is an 8.0 blind, enjoi, or almost teamdeck. On 5.25 tensors....
I hate to say it. But there's a reason the popsicle has been the standard for 25, 30 years....
Kick pushing, grind for life...👊✌👍
Christian Siaz was my first board , with the rails! Old school decks have always been my favorite. I started skating in the early 90's. I still skate a H-Street fishtale today. I like the fatter boards, but it's gotta have that double kick!
I buy one in this week, the visual is much radical i loved
Pretty darn good on the old school deck right off the bat. I wish they would use the new school bolt pattern on all the old board reissues. My guess is that there are more people that would want to use trucks with the new pattern than ones using old school trucks. Indy makes 6 hole base plates. Surprisingly, the other manufacturers, like Thunder, mostly don't. I guess they just don't care about old school.
I'd say because a lot of the old school sk8rs are starting up skateboarding again like me and its cool to see lots of the old decks reissues again too.
I've been skating a 10.34 party yacht for about 6 years now, something about it just make prefect sense
I started skating those kind of boards. Then they changed gradually to popsicles, all boards were like that. As I got older I used a 8.5 but then I switched to the new Grosso boards style… much wider, a little longer, square tail , pointy square nose. Like the old guitar shape but with a big nose. Good for transition
I have a question for you John. If I start riding a Shape Skate Deck and get used to the to it, will I get better over time at riding a normal Skate Deck or lose my sense of control with Regular Skate Decks?
I'm obviously not him but I've been skating a couple old school shape boards for a while. Once you get used to skating them they might start to feel a little better when it comes to landing tricks or when you you're crusing. When you start skating popsicles again it does feel a little weird but you'll probably get used to them pretty quick.
I first rode a 10 when i was a kid. In my teens Popsicles came into vogue. At 38 im on an 8.6 old-school form with a lip on the nose. Im old and technical street isnt viable with my busted joints so injust carve lines at the park and i like the feel.
I still skate shaped boads... if you get a reissue or a shape right before the Vallely barnyard, which was the predecessor to the popsicle stick, the noses were larger and you can pop a nollie.
Hi John Lately I been binging your videos and I find your video very therapeutic when I’m having a bad day of skating Keep it up John👍🔥🛹
quit skating about a year and a half ago because i sucked and felt like i was getting old. a month ago i found the Tired videos and two weeks ago i bought a Tired hat and a powell style board. now i am skating the best i ever have. and having more fun too.
One can really tell you're putting more efforts into your videos again. Much appreciated, John!!
Revive should 100% make old school boards aswell! They would look sick.
That old school board looks extra dope! I been browsing CZcams looking at older boards today. And you displayed this board beautifullu
Im unbelievably juiced for you’re skate videos mate
Awesome, I do both. Can you try the Andy Anderson deck next 9.1
I started skating in the 80s when all boards was that size but the shapes was always different. When the reissues started coming back out I started skating those again. They're so fucking fun. But I have the G BONES 65 mms they fly. I hope to see ya do more on that board in the future lol KEEP PUSHING
Just love how every where I skate he’s there sometime after and I miss him
I've been skating the exact same Saiz deck for a few months now. So far it's not effecting me. Just no nose tricks. BUT LOOK INTO HOW TO INSTALL RAILS ON SHAPED DECKS. They can bend and flex, and it makes the board look wayyyyy better.
I grew up skating in the 80s and as a kid old decks remind me of old hot rods. It was all about the shape and graphic.
Lolli pop decks are good but...
Anyway... old school decks rock!!
Tony Hawk Medallion was my favourite obscure shape i ever owned.
Powell... bring that one back!!
I love your vids keep up with the good content
My friend has a mini ramp and a bit of a skate museum in his basement. I just donated a Natas deck that's a purple version of my first deck. You can find footage here on the Tube. Hamell SK8 or some jazz like that. If you find it you'll see some sick old boards and weird, whacked out setups.
I sold my mint Simms Staab from the late ‘80s for more then $300 about 10-years ago. I never got much of a chance to use it because I was in the military when I bought it and it went into storage when I went over seas.
i used to skate those before the popsicles came out and got popular honestly exactly the same id just flip it so it rolled fakie to be able to do nollie
I totally agree. On eighties boards I put the board backwards so I have the tail to pop off on nollie tricks
37 year old former skater (who occasionally skates) here, this wasn't surprising to me for the simple reason that today's "modern" "popsicle stick" boards are so wide and bloated now that aside from the shape difference they probably skate similar due to the weight of it. I went to replace one of my old decks a few years back and was astounded to find out that everybody today are riding boards that are usually at the narrowest 8" and on average somewhere in the 8.5" range. This was absolute insanity to me because as a kid 8" and wider boards were basically considered vert boards and were for gnar-gnar ramp skaters only. Younger people have explained to me that the reasoning behind wider boards is just to be able to stick landings that much easier, but again, it's so hard to understand this when back in the day going from a 7.5 or 7.63 board to a 7.75 one would have a noticeable detrimental impact to being able to actually spin clean 360flips, inward heelflips, etc. Much props to the younger generation to basically train themselves to overcome this and do the same stuff and better on these wider boards, but by the looks of it it is something that to a degree does remain true.
I stopped skating in 1989/90. Watching 1980's skating just feels right to me. I rarely see any modern skating that I'm feelin.
No thank you for me on the old school board for doing tricks but I'd cruise on it for sure. I like the way it looks. But this was a great reminder of how awesome of a skater you are John!
Ten inch boards just feel like a damn boat, like I’m fighting the pavement and I love it!!!
I have always liked old school boards
The forefathers of skating, and who put skating on the map, all used the old school deck. Skaters like Tony Hawk, Steve Caballero, Natas Kaupas, Mark Gonzales and other greats used the old school deck. The "popsicle deck" was even implemented in the 80's but was categorized as a "freestyle deck" and was mastered by skate gods like Rodney Mullens and Per Welinder. They were specifically made for street skating and allowed skaters to do unusual tricks because of its shape. Glad to see these dope young skaters appreciating the old school decks and keeping the memories alive. 🛹🤙
I can’t get used to popsicles. Love old school shapes. Especially Vision Psycho Sticks. Nice video!
Those old school shapes came from pool and vert ramp skating as there was no street skating back then. We used to street skate on them because there wasn't any other type of deck to use. So why you would take a deck designed for vert and street skate on it seems an odd choice. But, as you found out, you can do it, it's just harder.
john is legitimately my fav skater this mans got some of the best vids on the internet. always entertaining bro keep it up!
Out of nowhere man I’ve really been interested in skating. I actually feel like damn this doesn’t really even seem that difficult to Ollie or learn these tricks anymore. And all I need is a board and I can’t wait to get paid. I wanna shred and have great balance. I used to dream about recording myself as a kid doing something and I think I’m going to learn how to skateboard and do some tricks on camera just to prove to myself like damn this is another thing I love to do and it’s impressive to me when I see people skating. Y’all look cool and intelligent I’m gonna get out there and try.
Old school for the win 🤘😎🤘🔥
is anyone else so happy that at 8:00 , he literally lined the pops from the board on the ground with the music, even in the slow motion?
I tried a egg blunt shape by black label, and I’ve found my preference stays with a popsicle- the feel and ability to lock in is better on the modern shape imho
I started skating with those boards, they were a lot of fun.
Should have tried a welcome deck combining cool big old schoolish shapes and modern nose and concave. I love um
John, can you try the same tricks with some heavy wheels like Bones III's or Kryptonics that we had back then? Add on a Tail Bone and a pair of heavy solid rubber risers for bonus points!
I would think that the main thing is it not being symmetrical would probably make a bigger difference for things like halfpipes or any nose tricks. It's a weird in-between board for longboarding and regular skateboards. I'd say that for anyone who really just wants to do tricks stick with a standard shaped skateboard, but those that want a smaller board for riding around this is a good option.
I started skating at 8 and I am 43 now, still skating, I actually like early 90s shape the best, cool vid
6:03 "take a seat young sky walker"
For me old shool board are amazing in the shape
I want that exact setup right now and go get some extended slappy grinds!
My first board when I was a kid was an old school shape. I have a harder time trying to skate modern decks unless they are 9 wide on gullwing trucks(super tall truck, 58mm). That makes popsicle work. On 80s boards I go for the Santa Cruz cruise missile 2 concave on ace 55s and 1/4 risers. those setups work well for me. Both on 56mm speedlab wheels.
That song you were dancing to at the end was called Asphyxia by Cö shu Nie and it was the Season 3 opening for Tokyo Ghoul. 😊
Nice hippie tricks. My favorite to do is Hippie nollie bigspin
Give the Street Plant street axe deck a try. Retro style shape but with a super modern concave. Best board shape I've ever ridden and designed by Mike V
How was this board set up? Truck size, wheels?
Roskopp street 1 was the Porto full-size popsicle. I used that for about three yrs
I remember in the 80's when we went from riding these tiny surfboard style boards from K Mart to all of a sudden these bigger fish tail boards haha.
John: today probably should have been a rest day
Also John: *immediately continues skating*
I feel like these old school boards can now be interpreted as ‘shaped boards’, like now it can be part of a skater’s preference whether he prefers a shaped board or regular popsicle stick shaped board
The THPS2 and SKATE Decks are 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I remember the time popsicles and small 30mm wheels came in.... I saw sadly how all this cool 80s skateboards just disappeared. Now people buy reissues but only to hang in the wall or use it as cruisers. I hope one day i could see all the kids ridding this skateboards again.
0:12 that’s what she said
Good vid man. I got into skating in the late 80’s so I dig old school decks
Hey John I had a board that shape but it was a Walmart looking board with plastic trucks and yellow wheels but that's when I was young and didn't really know much about skateboarding my mom through it out and dope boards and shirts
Keep continue your video you make me woke up with a smile
You should try Andy Anderson's pro model
I just got into skating I bought a shaped deck because it feels a lot more comfortable. Also because I wanted to get into pool skating
well done video... from a Genx 80s skate guy