Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis Backpedal From Supporting Danny Masterson | Body Language Analysis
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Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunas released a video regarding some character letters they wrote in regards to Danny Masterson. Masterson is currently facing 30 years to life in prison for assaulting a number of women back in the prime of his acting career. This is my body language analysis of their video.
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Oh… I don’t like that at all.
I was just gonna ask 😅
I thought that was genius tbh 😅 the first legitimate use of celebrity AI voices I’ve ever seen 😂
This should be a pinned comment and should have been mentioned at the top of the video.
Very interesting! I really liked hearing this read in their voices since this is something they actually wrote, so I see nothing wrong in using an AI voice to contextualize it.
I will say what an attorney said about the “beloved football star” of my high school when charged with SA- “The issue isn’t with how he conducts himself around adults or friends, the issue is how he conducted himself around women when no one else was watching.”
That's a perfect way to put it 💯
I think I needed to hear that. Thanks.
Could not have said it better 👏
Perfectly said
Yes to this statement. Let’s spread it around. Everyone needs to hear this.
The comments about his “dedication to being drug free” are specifically insulting to the victims who were literally drugged by this “good person”.
Right. It truly doesn't matter if he put drugs in his own body because he forcefully put them in to others...
Plus, it’s like they are giving him credit that he alone was the reason they didn’t get into drugs. Do they not have consciences of their own and decide they didn’t want that sort of lifestyle without his impression? Give me a fckin break.
Like psychopaths who live in the public eye don’t do drugs in secret.
Their public persona is calculated.
Don’t be fooled.
Never mind the fact that DM is physically dependent on alcohol.
Natalie Lawyer Chick covered this yesterday and said she thought that was a bad move by DM’s attorneys and that she would have had them go back and edit the letters. I e read a couple more letters that mention it and I’m thinking that it was a choice by his attorneys as the verbiage is very similar.
It comes off as “we know he raped you, and our hearts go out to you, but we wanted the judge to not sentence him too harshly” which is gross
And all I hear from them is…But he didn’t do drugs so… it’s justified
No. No it doesn’t.
I think they both look PISSED OFF that the letters blew up and showed them in such a bad light that they had to do this.
🎯
Yup, they look like they are pissed to take 5 minutes to address this...they obviously have better things to do! They are rich,young, beautiful....
Exactly what I thought. Like it’s beneath them to have to explain themselves using words no doubt drafted by their own lawyers
Even the way they filmed it, with the camera below their faces, feels like they're talking down to their audience. Like explaining something complex to a child. Nah guys, it's not that complicated. You support victims unless and until they accuse your friend. We're not dumb.
Yup. Mila especially looks absolutely indignant. Like how dare her support of victims be questions - after she didn’t support her friend’s victims.
“He doesn’t do drugs, and he’s nice to ME, so obviously he would never sexually assault anybody!” That’s basically all I heard in their letters 🥴
yeah, except for there’s footage of him calling a 14-year-old Mila Kunis, hot and other footage of Ashton Kutcher, explaining how Danny Masterson bath him that he couldn’t slip a 14-year-old Mila Kunis, the tongue while filming that 70s show that guy is a predator through and through and Ashton Kutcher knows it
THANK U BRUH omfg i said if i was the judge id completely disregard the letters 👩🏿🦯
Don't you know drugs are the only marker on what makes someone 100% good or bad? 🥴
/s
Their letters make me sick. Idc who it is, I'm not supporting anyone accused of violent crimes til I've heard ALL the evidence for myself,, and not base my verdict on personal anecdotes of our lives.
@@paulan7218lol I'm about their age and I remember back then they all did drugs, TMZ would follow them out of clubs looking trashed. 😂
@@classicarahthe fact they’re trying to lie about all of it now is so insane 😂 they knooooow people know they did drugs and drank.
the thing they need to understand is that even though he might've always been a great friend to them, it doesn't mean that he is incapable of doing the things he's been convicted of. bad people don't appear to be bad all the time and to everyone they interact with
edit: well, since all of this came out, it seems like they knew exactly what danny did, they just don't care.
my point still stands, but in this case it's not looking good for mila and ashton
Right? I'm sure every criminal has close friends who are surprised.
Exactly
You can be a good friend and father and be a shi&$y husband and person too
Exactly, well said!
They know he’s guilty.
They don’t care.
Exactly! What could they have possibly hoped to accomplish?
Oh, so criminals have families and friends? Thanks for clearing that up Ashton. Groundbreaking.
I’m actually disgusted that Ashton would say he would trust his kids alone with a convicted S offender. Would it be worth hearing his kids divulge things years down the line that he can never undo, that could change the course of their lives forever? Creepy, nasty, ew.
what makes it worse is that Ashton Kutcher now fancies himself a person who fights child s*x trafficking. There's a particular short that feels very fake , I couldn't shake that feeling for the longest and the amount of people validating him as a hero were just over the top. People will worship anyone, I swear. I'm not saying that he's not a good dude, just that certain aspects of this raise alarms for four year old me who was rescued from the exact scenario presented.
I would LOVE to see video in the future of Danny babysitting Ashton's kids if that would have been possible. When people say things that are impossible to prove with support, I SOOOO wish they had a chance to prove their bs is real.
@@jooliagoolia9959 thank you, exactly.
@@liz090833 I’m so sorry that you’re able to relate in such an awful way. Everyone is right to trust their instincts and especially those with experience. Things like this make me SO angry, when children are treated as though they’re just there to absorb the mistakes of the adults around them.
@@Lucina.. awww that is very sweet of you! You know, for a long time I didn't say what happened bc I didn't know how to, but now I talk about it bc I really want other people to understand that it does happen, here in the states, every single day. What if I told everyone it's all done in plain sight? DCF is the face of modern day human trafficking. No one misses kids that don't have families.
The fact that they didn't say sorry to the victims - which THEY KNEW PERSONALLY (at least one of them) - was such a disgusting move. Absolutely awful.
All 3 of them, I'm afraid.
Why would they say sorry? They have a right to not believe them, most likely they didn't, hence why they wrote the letter
Why are they back peddling ????@@SuperMarkizas
@@jooliagoolia9959they don’t want to be cancelled
@@blairg8171
Too late. Most of us older folks like Ashton and Mila and older literally lived in a opposite mindset than is happening now.
So much was tolerated and demanded to be tolerated to keep jobs and from losing livelihoods.
Nerds were ridiculed openly and macho idiots were praised at any cost.
My ex was a great guy in public, defending women and protecting them. Behind closed doors was a different story, assaulting me in more ways than one. You can never know what people are really like and character letters like this are devastating to the victims and their loved ones. When my child’s perpetrator was sentenced, such letters were given. They still haunt us to this day. But hey, the ruination of my young child’s life was nothing compared to getting him a lighter sentence, right?
People like this infuriated me.
Right?! My ex is a “therapist”… how many times did he scare me, lock me out of the house, call me a c*nt, hit me, mock me, belittle me… but he’s never done drugs and so he must be a nice guy
Completely agree! My abusive ex was a narcissistic psychopath, but to the outside world, he was the greatest guy. That way, nobody would believe my word against his, and I was definitively discouraged from taking it to court. People need to have critical thinking.
Apparently, they know the victims as well, which just makes what they say even more awful.
Jane Doe 3 was Danny’s girlfriend for six years. Makes his behavior even worse (if that is possible).
Most of the young actors on That 70s show are Scientology members
Oh that’s even worse
It's not uncommon for a person involved in crime to treat a core group of friends very well. This way, later, those folks can say: "No way! I've known him or her for a long time, and the simply are incapable of this.
Religious leaders have done it. Anti-drug crusaders who turn out to be drug dealers have done it.
It's a clever way to have a support group who can help you later, and even claim you've been framed.
Exactly ! It's all part of the grooming. People refuse to acknowledge the abuser grooms EVERYONE around them differently, but makes them all believe part of the mask they are showing the world for future needs, never for real connection. They are a conductor with all involved as their personal orchestra. They play each of them to get desired result, nothing more. They act like helpful and caring friends or family or coworkers. They never actually do anything helpful on purpose and don't ever connect with anyone. They make you feel like they did and care at all. They are making others look worse in each others minds and also tearing each of them down in person after hooking them. Sometimes they cluster together and often in Hollyweird...
Yes this is so true!
It must be so painful for everyone. People forget that feelings are often not driven by logic but by past experience. So, while we look at them and may feel anger and disgust they have a very different lived experience influencing them. In time they may come to experience the same emotions towards someone they placed trust in. They may even come to have those feelings towards themselves knowing their words hurt people who experienced the things Danny did to others. It takes time to process things in an honest way.
I know a lot of men like that... they hide in plane sight
@@maartjegoede9330 And the statistics are showing it's actually pretty equal between the sexes. Women are more crafty and are assumed to have good motives.
Ashton did so much work surrounding human trafficking. Our community of trafficking survivors really appreciated having someone really stand up for us outside of just political propaganda. This is heartbreaking to know he wouldn't understand that it's often those no one expects who commit sexual abuse. It all just feels so hypocritical of him.
Mostly the people who are heavily involved in a crime are the ones who are very vocally against this crime. Always be a little bit careful with people. There are many problems with people in r support groups that act like they want to support, but are actually jerking off over the horrors people explain.
Psychologically speaking, they're probably still in shock. Give them time to realize the betrayal. 25 years of close friendship and looking up to someone only to find out they're a monster is not easy, I think they'll get there in the end.
Reminds me of the time when i was 18- i was living in an all girls center with nuns and social worker it was a religious NGO. Our advocacy that time is to stop Women&Child Abuse , human trafficking and child labor.
Then one night I was sexu@lly assaülted by the husband of a social worker who also stood up as a mother figure to me while staying there. When i told them what happened i was told to keep my mouth shut.
It was 10 yrs ago but its still painful in my heart.
Our advocacy that time also is to come forward when theres ab*se happening - instead they just blamed me for sleeping while wearing shorts.
Prayers to those victims❤
That's what got me when I heard about this is how much Ashton has done to help victims of human trafficking and then on the other side of that coin when the perpetrator happens to be a friend all of a sudden its "they would never"
These “character letters” are so meaningless. Why should Mila’s and Ashton’s(or anyone’s feelings about the defendant) matter when it comes to sentencing or verdicts? Who cares about what a couple of biased celebrities think? This is beyond disgusting. I’m glad they’re both getting the backlash they deserve.
Exactly. They're ego is massive like their words will influence a judge because they're sooooo important 🙄
Right and character letters are absolutely meant to sway the judge and jury
Truly shows us all what opinions Hollywood celebrities have of non-celebrities. They think a judge should be swayed by their pitiful, written crying and them vouching for him somehow.
I mean, I gave a character letter once swearing that a flaming narcissist threatened me and my husband publicly because his wife needed help proving that the charming man everyone knew was not always that way. He was ruining her life in court because she was way less charismatic and he was taking her kids away just to spite her.
So sometimes character letters are all people have.
Well said.
It’s about time the elites are being truly held accountable
Her little jerk forward at the end of her sentence made me feel like she was trying to get the point across and felt almost like an aggressive move 15:35 15:58
Damn straight !
that AI audio is terrifying... Gosh, that's gonna cost a lot of problems in the future..
It wasn't a back pedal, it was rage at being exposed. They at no time addressed Masterson's victims, two of whom they know. Mila and Ashton are both enablers and cowards. They are done.
Agreed!!!
As much as I’d like to believe this, it’s doubtful they are done. Usually “cancelled celebs” bounce back in one way or another. Sadly, they have too big of a cult following to really be “cancelled.” But only time will tell I suppose. 😢
They’ve definitely lost a lot of fans but they’ll be just fine lol
This is the first time I got to actually see the letters. Prior, I just knew they existed. After actually hearing the comments they made AFTER a jury found him GUILTY?? They deserve every bit of hate they are getting right now.
From Mila's letter: "He's a comfort to us all." IS HE MILA?? IM SURE I CAN THINK OF A FEW PEOPLE HE'S NOT A COMFORT TO.
Absolutely disgusting.
The AI voices really make it feel real. It really opens your eyes to what these people were trying to promote and defend, and they should be held accountable for it
That's AI? I straight up thought that was them reading it out loud
@@EternalDusk_ I thought so too, but if you look at his pinned comment, it states that they are AI generated
Yup, the wat father was pronounced by Mila lol
Ashton is a study in contradictions. Held a 17yo Mila on his lap while joking about slipping her the tongue while she was 14; co-founded an anti-sex trafficking foundation with Demi More and gave impassioned speeches to congress. Talks about women’s rights publicly but left the dead body of a woman he was seeing that he’d found to be found by someone else bc he didn’t want to deal with it himself. That he mishandled his doesn’t surprise me. Mila I’m more disappointed by.
He’s a predator
You just outlined all the ways he is.
I’m sorry, what? Dead ex gf? 😮
@@StrawberryCakeStudiosYTHe had a date with a girl and when he went to pick her up she had been unalived by another man. This is the first I've heard of him seeing the body and leaving without alerting the police. It was a long time ago and I remember him testifying but I guess I missed some stuff. This is abhorrent behavior.
@@sherryelle225omg, whoa, that’s crazy, how could he not worry she didn’t come to the door when they were supposed to go out? Thank you for telling me, cause I keep seeing this bit of info in the comments but was like confused.
His organization did more harm than good if you research it.
As a retired Adolescent Psych RN, both of their speeches totally creeped me out. Ashton has always bothered me as having some deep issues. I cannot speak much of Mila as I've never followed her much. Be careful who you stand up for, we rarely know the dark side of our friendships.
This may sound harsh but I’ll never understand how someone who does a crime like this is able to have a child let alone a daughter and and not think about how he ruined other minors lives …how could you live with yourself
You forever changed someone else’s life and they’ll never be same so I see no problem in him getting 20-30 years it will not come near as close to what the victims have to deal with for life
It could be that he simply doesn't care about his daughter, or somehow thinks it won't happen to her ... or thinks he can protect her.
You assume their children haven’t been violated.
@@nowirehangers2815 i definitely don't assume that. The parents themselves may violate their children, or leave them in the hands of a "trusted" babysitter (who has convinced them of what a best person he or she is.)
What minors?
Sociopaths don’t care about other peoples feelings
They support victims as long as their friends aren't the predators.
As a mother, it is baffling to me when people don't err on the side of their kids. I don't care how close we are, if you're accused of sexual misconduct--much less convicted like this guy--we're done. Sorry not sorry.
No matter what, if he is guilty, despite how amazing he was as a father, friend and husband, he can still have done horrible things.
He was already found guilty.
He's both guilty and convicted
The BTK killer proved that.
He got handed 30years 😂
BTK reminds me of it
"this letter was only SUPPOSED to only be seen by the judge so he can get a lighter sentence because hes a "good" friend" even though he was already proven guilty, instead of questioning everything you had with this horrible person, you now DEFENDED this mf. yall deserve to have your careers burned.
These letters are always written after they are proven guilty. Theyre written to help during sentencing.
That's even worse. The court found him guilty and now there's no presumed innocence. It's a fact of guilt and yet, hearing what this individual put these women through, AK still wrote that dribble to help a mate out.. wow
Judge "I can request an extra bunk bed if you really wanna join him"
@KaylaMarie_ "oh yeah you know he assulted those victims, but you know he was kind to ME, therefore he isnt that bad. cause you know he was a big brother and still is" like are you hearing that sentence? they should join him in jail to continue being a "sister and brother" to their dear friend.
@@coffee3441 thats standard practice. You would be very upset if you looked up all the letters written before sentencing for thousands of other guilty people. If you were on trial you’d have a bad lawyer if he didn’t ask for statements from your friends and family before sentencing.
But the part that i thought was awful was when they both insisted that he doesn’t use drugs. Extremely disrespectful to the victims that Danny drugged.
@@coffee3441he was defending ellen the same way before
Admitting “this was meant for the judge to read not the world” is all I needed to know. They are fully in support of him, and if they cared about the victims their actions would have shown so. Their actions proved their beliefs. They’re only scrambling to salvage their public images because the letter was released and people saw how they truly felt.
Mila Kunis was proud of her Russian heritage and story until the last couple of years. The moment the war began she came out to claim she was Ukrainian all along but misspoke for 20 years, apparently.
Transparent. This is just further evidence of how important their image is to them, not their actions nor beliefs.
They've always only cared about their image. Years ago when Ashton career was taking off, he went to pick up a date for a party (Grammy or Emmys) and when he went in he found her dead body. He then ran out and spent an hour in his car talking to his agent and Danny Masterson about what to do!!! He then went to the party and talked to police the next day!!! The worst part is because Ashton never said anything and lied about him being there, the killer wasn't able to be prosecuted so he went on to kill 1 more woman and assault another.
Ashton is just as bad as Danny Masterson (in my opinion)
I get the feeling they don't believe the victims because they've known Danny for so long, and it's not the Danny they know.
I would be concerned about their positions working with victims if they're able to defend Danny Masterson. People with terrible interntions will place themselves in positions to be near vulnerable people. Ashton gives me bad vibes, and I hate to see Mila defend a r*pist.
Ashton gives you bad vibes but not Mila? I don't think nicer of her just because she's a woman.
Agreed - but Ashton has also perjured himself in a murder case. That is why I get more of a bad feeling from him.@@brianmoren3780
"We support victims" - victims in general, not "we support the victims", i.e. in this specific case.
@@hannahreynolds7611That’s why it doesn’t make sense, they are giving off the “we don’t believe the victims” vibe… so did they think each of them writing 2 painfully long irrelevant letters saying the same thing would make a bigger impact on the court? Did it ever cross their minds there would be significant backlash for standing up for their friend with 30 years of egregious crimes under his belt? Not to mention they know some of the victims. Did they weigh the pro’s and con’s of the significant impact it could have on their lives both professionally and personally? OF COURSE THEY DID!! Nothing is making sense. Why would they be willing to sacrifice so much and what do they have to gain? What’s their end game? Better yet “Who’s end game?” It feels like it’s something bigger than them. I’m done now. Something’s just weird.
Your bias is showing 😂
This is disappointing because Ashton and Demi founded thorn which is meant to help children from being sexually abused. Does it not matter when the victims are grown up?
It’s a marketplace.
its notbeven a good programm qnd takes away fundings from proper projects
@@nowirehangers2815bingooo!!!! Someone gets it!! Ashton doesn't care about children or SA victims beyond who he knows personally, which is a p3do mantra, a code of ethics if you will.
They sold the facial recognition program to police but i am hearing it is not used correctly and those who run it don’t actually save as many people as they claim, and sex workers have been speaking out about it for years, but it’s pushed down by publicity stunts and virtue signaling
Impact > Intentions
So they know one of the victims? *Disgusting* .
I get that character testament important in court, but you can be a good parent and a bad person, as well as you can be two faced, and be a terrible person without doing drugs. Jeez.
Also the fact that their voice is AI makes me fear for society, I wouldn't have noticed 🤦♀️
The AI thing is terrifying 😢
yeah it's a wrap! We were warned about this AI nonsense, I don't listen to Elon musk because he's a moron, but he has been trying to warn people for like the last 10 years that AI was going to be the downfall of humanity. That AI was a bigger threat than nuclear war, everybody just kept charging their cars... nothing to see here kids!
They know all of yhem. That also goes for the women out of state and out of country.
I was really curious about the voices bc I didn’t hear about them reading their letters out loud at the trial. I also found it odd that Ashton Kutcher would keep throwing random “uhhh” and “uhhhm” between words for a pre written letter. Terrifying on the AI front
The fact that they don’t say that they believe the victims, their heart goes out to the Jane does (whom they know at least 1 personally) is so telling. They said “our hearts go out to all victims.” They left room to not include the Jane does.
These felt like letters you'd read at a funeral service- full of praise, ancedotes and drivel. Extremely tone deaf and so very misplaced for the setting.
It made me feel like they were being flippant, as if "well, I wasn't in that scene so my character can't judge them for it."
putting Ashton Kutcher’s typos aside, these letters actually look like they were written by the church of Scientology
These letters are incredibly blatant
There's nothing but praise, accolades, glorified moments, god status qualities on one individual this was written for
He may aswell have written
"Please don't send my friend to prison, he made mistakes and believe you me, he's his own worst critic" AK
😂
It sounds like an A.I. Ashton voice. Im wondering of A.I. was used
Especially when the end of the letter reads "thank you for READING this letter"
@@ChattieCathieyes it’s AI. It’s in the pinned comment at the top.
The way Mila presents herself here is so off-putting, like she's giving a speech.
she said "fayther" at one point instead of father. did they really write them? odd.
@@lg4377Exactly what I was going to say! She was so not genuine at all. “Fayther”? Girl please take this seriously. Yknow
She's enraged
Logan mentions in another comment that the reading portion is done by AI. That's why it said "fayther" because it's not actually Mila.
The reading of the letters is AI, it’s not actually them saying it. This is exactly why AI is problematic. They never outright said any of that with their own voices.
She looks pissed to have to do this. What did they mean by "only the judge would read this"?
They didn't mean for the statement to become public for everyone to see? Fail of a backpedal.
Totally, she is furious.
This is disgusting. The fact another woman was murdered after because they couldn’t build a solid case because of his interference is horrific. That family should sue the crap out of him! He should’ve been charged for something due to his lying and interference.
Why anyone would want to attach themselves to Danny during this is very difficult to understand. If I’m understanding correctly, these statements are after he was already found guilty, right? As in, post-trial? I get that they were friends for decades and certainly, at the very least for Mila, they bonded during some extremely formative years (what would be highschool and college for us non-industry folk). Even so, it just feels like a blanket statement like “oh well he was always nice to me so cant we just go easy on him your honor?” And that to me is gross. Not to mention a massive slap in the face to not only Dannys’ victims but ALL victims. People seem to have this misguided perception that r*pists/ab*sers can’t mask their behavior with certain people. It’s okay to admit you were deceived but why double down and position yourselves as for victims? It’s just counteractive. Idk, I’m not disappointed or shocked bc I don’t follow them all that closely but from the outside looking in they seem blatantly ingenuine.
Spot on. I would have said if this was a verbal response, without engaging ones brain that he was speaking on emotion but the very fact he wrote a letter, which takes a considerably longer time than verbalising, the attention and care, thought process, yet all in favour of the perpetrator
So my opinion is.... if you've done the crime, you should do the time.... my opinion is also, that we as people are not the sum of our bad behavior or our good behavior... it's very possible for a person that has done bad things(and if illegal should be charged), to also do good things... it's very possible that the positives raised by the letters were genuine and true, did it move the needle to give any kind of weight that he might not have done those bad things and he shouldnt be charged..... no..... I do believe their letters were sincere, and I also believe that the legal system did it's rightful duty to punish bad/illegal behavior. It is possible for both scenarios to be true at the same time.
@@blufluffya_496 Play the entire letter section again and read it. AK is trying to get him a lighter sentence by stating what a great individual this guy is or was
However, read the section when he thrusts his friend into hero status, saving a young women from a guy that's mistreating her 😂
That's just one example, there are plenty more where AK is so blatantly trying to defend the undefendable
Also you have no idea that the letters were only to serve the perpetrator, after he was found guilty and sentenced
AK was attempting to get the judge to give his friend a lighter sentence
The judge gave him 30years
And you are very much the sum of all things when you commit atrocious acts on other people
@@DavidSmith-zd2iv I had a feeling there would be individuals that would prefer avoiding the grey area of the situation.... but you are free to judge whomever you see fit, as am I to do the same, and we don't agree on this matter pertaining the letters, I do however think we both agree that if someone has committed the crime, they should do the time, so there's at least that... thank you for sharing your opinion and perspective on what constitutes a good vs bad person etc and conversing with me on the matter, you have not convinced me to change my perspective, but solid effort none the less 👍 I think we all know, that the only way those letters would've carried ANY substantial weight, is if the positives they were raising directly contradicted or brought into question, the possibility that the accused is incapable of SA due to past actions that directly indicate that.... everything that was raised in those letters did nothing to really directly influence the very thing he's being accused of, and yes its absolutely possible to do other good things whilst doing bad things, it's called being a human and imperfect.
Also, I'm not sure what your point has to do with my point.... all I said is it's possible the content of the letters were true and that bad people are still capable of doing good deeds, I never said he shouldn't be punished for it and I never stated my opinion on whether I think it was crappy of them to submit those letters in the first place
@@blufluffya_496 I'm stating you are as tone deaf as those letters
Writing as many good things as one could possibly fit onto paper, with an extraordinary amount of hubris, whilst knowing the things someone has been convincted on is extremely a bad take
These are the sort of letters that a family member would write, to a son or daughter, ignoring the horrific details what they had done to someone else
*He was already convicted when they wrote those letters*
This letter was engineered to influence the judges sentencing to reduce his years in captivity which inturn insults the victims that went through this ordeal
Hey he's not all bad, he's a good father, he's good at making paper areoplanes, he got my cat out of a tree, he lent me some cash. He's a real cool dude
*But there's this one time he murdered a bunch of people*
That is the sum of all things that you will be judged on
It’s not enough that they wrote those letters but what they wrote and how loooong the letters went on. The kicker for me is that they knew the victims and still thought writing such involved letters was a good idea.
I’m sorry- are you saying they *knew OF* them or that they knew them personally?
@@PuddleOfEmotion I understand they were personal acquaintances.
It’s weird. What’s their agenda? Something’s not right.
@@ellewoods8055 personally, I think scientology and or Danny Masterson has some pretty good dirt on Mila and Ashton
I learned a hard lesson in my marriage and subsequent divorce...that lesson is that some people may show the most amazing version of themselves in public and even in close relationships, but become a monster behind closed doors. My ex-husband abused me in every way a person can be abused...emotionally, psychologically, financially, physically, and sexually... but people were shocked when I told them the truth. He was "a great guy" and well loved in our community.
Not all that glitters is gold...and just because someone shows up as the best version of themselves doesn't mean that they aren't a monster behind closed doors.
I agree! And have lived that. People blame ME for his abhorrent actions.
Hey Ashton, it only takes one evil deed to undo a thousand good ones.
It reads like Mila wrote her letter with Chat GPT.
It’s AI. Logan already mentioned it and it’s pinned at the top.
The wording. Not the reading. Thx
@@KillTheCupcakesno, the actual letters, not the reading of the letters in this video. But I agree OP, it feels like they're letters were written by chatgpt.
They sound like church of Scientology to me!!
It’s always the ones who “you could never imagine” doing something like this. How many more “Pilar’s of the community”, “best husband and father”, “good friend to me”’s have to go on to do bad things for people realize that it’s always someone you never thought.
Ignoring the obvious concerns of them still supporting Danny, he didn't help keep people away from drugs bc he's such a good & inherently noble person. He did it bc he's deep into Scientology and they're very anti-drug. Which I find interesting, since Scientology protecting him was such a huge part of this case.
It'd be like writing a character letter for a priest accused of CSA and focusing on how great a Church leader he is. Like, hi, that's actually part of the problem.
THANK YOU I think you're the first comment I've seen mentioning the connection between drug use and Scientology. His instilling of self belief, and anti drugs, is just a way to show people how great Scientology can make you, in their eyes.
Exactly!! People don't seem to look into this case enough to realize Danny had help covering his tracks and the help's name was Scientology!!!!
I have had "friends" who were great to me, and monsterous behind closed doors to others. It is difficult to wrap your head around it, and hard to let people go, but I don't support people who do these sorts of crimes. It happened to me 30 years ago, and still effects me to this day. I think I would have found a bit of peace if those men would have been convincted and behind bars, yet I still worry that they are out there doing it (I wasn't their only victim, and their friends didn't want to believe the many women who talked about it either). It's a serious, life changing crime and it needs to be taken seriously, and the criminals need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Though it may be dissapointing and shocking, I'm always grateful to see true colors. Now we see how all three of them really are, and to what lengths they will go to in supporting each other. I'm happy to see our justice system finally deliver a conviction worthy of the crime. And since they didn't bother to apologize to the victims, I will say I'm so sorry that they went through that nightmare and had to hear these garbage people support the criminal who did it. And I thank them for their bravery, strength and perseverance in persuing justice.
It seems clear to me that Danny has dirt on them and it's in their best interest to do everything in their own power to try and get him as little of a sentence as possible.
All I can think of hearing Mila’s letter is, “Shut up Meg”.
I watched that video without any sound and I was shocked by how annoyed and over it Mila Kunis looks. It’s so funny to me when actors in these situations feel so in the right, they don’t even ACT like they’re sorry. But also, it’s good that they show their true colors.
Nobody is talking about Ashton Kutcher walking in on his murdered girlfriend and fleeing the scene. I just learned of this from a Scientology channel. I'm disgusted beyond belief. How in the hell could he.... ashamed he's from Iowa too. We don't claim him anymore.
Who was his ex gf?
I think this situation was one where Ashton was to go on a blind date. He came to the house, knocked on the door, got no answer, and left. That is different from walking in on a "murdered girlfriend".
If you are speaking of a different girlfriend, I'd love to know.
Or grooming his now wife from age 14
Or working with victims but apologising for an abuser,it’s a front for abuse and trafficking amongst the elites
He’s a predator too
Same here, I’m confused, bc all I got online was that he lost “a gf “due to trying to break into his high school with his cousin.
@@joanneblack7697I watched Ashton testify at the trial of the man who killed Ashton's date and I never heard anything about him seeing the body and fleeing the scene but it may have happened, it's just news to me. It's not like I'd be surprised if it did happen. These two absolutely did not want to read this statement and were pissed off that they had to even make the video. They meant what they said in those letters and as far as I'm concerned, they just totally crapped on the victims by writing those letters.
I think it’s pretty clear they can’t separate the person from the crime. I’m not surprised by this because Ashton just a few months back did the pr move when asked about it and said, I’m going to refrain from saying something because of Danny’s daughter
But also a lot of this case has to do with Scientology and how the church harassed and silenced the victims. And it’s pretty clear that they didn’t know that side of Danny because as someone who consumes a lot of content about modern cults like Scientology, that the star power aspect gave him a license to do whatever he wanted.
So, yeah he could be that great friend who told you not to get into drugs (Scientology is very anti drugs and alcohol otherwise you would have to do hours long auditing to essentially repent for that if you were caught) he could be a great dad who loves his daughter, but it doesn’t take away from the crimes which were all similar.
Honestly, Ashton’s and Mila’s letters make Danny sound like a controlling psychopath.
I was literally just talking about this to my husband lol! Brilliant timing! Can't wait to hear your analysis!
Edit after watching: Completely agree with your analysis! They (and their letters) come across like they don't believe the victims and the "apology" now really appears to be an attempt to safe face. That eye block/ flutter at the end was so weird in context of what she's saying. Doesn't feel genuine.
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Could it be political?
@@ellewoods8055Explain how this could be political?
There are lies in the letters to the judge. Theres an interview with rosie odonnell where ashton states danny bribed him with $20 to tongue kiss a 14 year old mila (ashton was 19 at the time when he states in the letter they met at 20 years old). You should look up the interview if you havent already. Its so disgusting how chiflado he gets about it. & the way Mila talks about it, you can tell she sees nothing wrong with it. Such a good role model, danny was.
I think she thought it was messed up, which is why she called them out on it, but as a girl back then you had to play things off as funny or you'd be called a bitch and no fun. Being an adolescent in the early '00s was...and experience.
The judge sentenced Danny Masterson to LIFE in prison. Both counts of - Forcible gRAPE - that he was found guilty of committing carry a 15 year mandatory minimum sentence. In Masterson's case the two 15 year mandatory minimum portions of his LIFE sentence will be served consecutively. Not concurrently. Which means that Danny Masterson will have to serve out at least 85% of a mandatory minimum of 30 years in prison before he is eligible to petition the penal system for a parole hearing. Mind you that this is the barest minimum sentence that he must serve (PROVIDING HE DOESN"T GET INTO ANY TROUBLE ALONG THE WAY) before he can sit for the first time in front of a parole board. If he survives that long (which is highly unlikely) it is just as unlikely that he will be released after his first parole hearing. Considering he is serving a life sentence and also considering the nature, and the brutality, of his crimes and the fact that he D_RUGGED his victims before he forcibly gRAPED them. It couldn't of happened to a more deserving Hollywood "actor" scum bucket. He's where he belongs.
Take care. sincerely, Dean O. :-I
He isn’t popular enough to survive prison.
@@onelastchance648if anything the fact that he’s a celebrity probably makes him more of a target for prison justice
Is he going to a real prison or a rich white guy resort prison?
@@SotaliaTucuxi- They haven't announced which prison facility in California he will initially be sent to. From what some people have said he might end up getting moved around a few times before he ends up in his forever prison home. Like I said... It couldn't of happened to a more deserving Hollywood "actor" scum bucket. :-I
Ashton is guilty of creepy shit, too. Mila is a victim but apparently doesn't know it.
She was groomed indeed. I can never rewatch that 70s show ever again.
I can on one hand understand they are wanting to support their friend, I don’t think they thought those letters would come out otherwise I think they wouldn’t have done it but it does look bad. Just cause you know someone as well as you think you do doesn’t mean that person should be exempt from the full force of the law and judicial system if they have done something wrong.
Didn't they read those letters out loud or were they read by someone else? He said they released the letters, didn't he?Like they thought they were going to be praised for this and were proud of the letters. IDK but their apology was absolutely horse $hit.
@@sherryelle225 no they wrote the letters to only the judge to read. but the judge didnt sealed them basically. Mila/ashton thought no one else would see the letters.
They look mad that they have to say anything about it. and that anyone saw what they really think when it was suppose to be "private"
The fact they made these statements after the conviction... is disgusting and honestly makes no sense. Why do that? As friends for 25 years wouldn't you feel extremely betrayed?
Also- clock the word choice at the end. Not specifically to his victims, just 'our heart to anyone who has ever been a victim of s abuse". Very telling.
What is twisted is that they cannot even fathom that their actions are twisted. Which tells me they are very twisted.
Kurtwood Smith & Debra Jo Rupp who played Red & Kitty on that 70’s show both wrote character letters for Danny as well. They’re just not getting the same backlash as Ashton & Mila.
This is super disappointing to see how lengthy their letters were and how little they seemed to actually regret writing them. I hope Masterson enjoys his 20 years in prison.
Thanks for the cool video, I did have a feeling it was AI, especially when Mila pronounced father wrong. In the future i think itd be good to make that clear as i think the tone of their verbal statements does have an impact when you are listening and i also would be completely fine just listening to you read them.
Unwavering used soooo many times
I feel like the one person from the 70s show who handled it well was Topher. I saw his statement after watching this "apology" and I really felt it.
That was his wife’s statement if I’m not mistaken.
@@Justyna_N oh you're right! Still a strong statement. :)
'But at least he doesnt do drugs, so its okay ' that what I get from this 🤮
I understand that they would wantcto help out a dear friend. But friends, partners and family members can do horrible things and they should get punished because on the other end there are also REAL people being hurt and families broken apart by the wrongdoing of the person who appears to be a saint.
His ability to be a super dad to his daughter, and committing the crime he was sentenced for, aren’t mutually exclusive.
He can be both!😢😢😢
Um, what ? So, the message is: Don’t do d-gs, just use them to incapacitate girls, who would never voluntarily choose to be intimate with you, so you can easily SA them?
Your assessments are in total alignment with my thoughts on this sham of an “apology”! Thank you for your video, as always!!
To ME the real clincher is that they THOUGHT their character letters would be sealed when they did it. That leads me to believe they KNEW what they were doing wasn’t right cuz if they rly felt they were 100% confident in what they were saying they should’ve been able to do it & stand behind it. That’s the nail in the coffin that was these letters. To even RISK leaving him alone w/ your daughter after what’s come out is negligent IMO! You can see a great side of someone who has a dark side, imagine.🙄🤦🏽♀️
I'm interested in seeing you cover the woman who wasnt there. Tania Head who lied about her husband passing on 9/11 as well as her surviving 9/11. I've been watching a documentary on it and absolutely mind blown.
That would be interesting to see. Hopefully in the future he does this
Okay i know this is random but the AI is hilarious that it sees Ashton saying uh so much (he does) but Mila's is just right away reading the letter. It did really show in both the letter writing as well with Ashton's many typos, grammar issues, and misspelling.
Either way, I don't understand how they didn't think of that one little chance that the letters would be released. Shows their nature so much.
He received a sentence of life with a minimum of 30 years before he can even get a chance of parole. It wasn't a 30-life sentence.
The video said he has to serve 20 years before he's eligible for parole.
How these two actors could not even act like they weren’t reading from a script really makes me laugh
I was hoping you would do a video on this! Mila looked so angry, especially at the end. They obviously dont support victims.
She really does angry.
Thanks for the analysis. Was there a disclaimer in the video itself about the voice over being AI generated? I don't think I seen it if there was. I think it's important to have that made obvious considering the nature of the video.
No because I thought it was his voice and her voice sounded strange. There was no mention of this so I thought the released these letters and were proud of them and read them for the public. That's a huge thing to leave out of the context of this situation imo. It made it more confusing to me anyway.
That AI was crazy!!! I thought that they actually read out these letters until I read your description! The way the AI even got their mannerism in speaking right....mind blown. Scared and impressed at the same time.
I didnt realized he had been FOUND GUILTY and they STILL WROTE LETTERS for him.
If I ever had the misfortune to call someone a froend who did such disgusting and evil things, they would never be called a friend again.
They where asking for leniency for Danny, not justice for the victims.
I was really really shocked they wrote those gross letters. Also they personally know the victims cold cold cold.
A person can be decent in most spheres of their life and an absolute monster in one or more others. Thinking otherwise is downright naive.
Are you using AI for Ashton and Mila narrating their letters or did they say these out loud at some court hearing?
I'm wondering the same thing! Hopefully someone can confirm because I'm so curious.
Great catch! Yes, I used AI narration to voice their letters over. From what I was able to find, they weren’t ever read aloud.
@@ObserveCZcamsWow, now that’s really scary where AI will go in the future cause it really sounded like they had been read by Ashton and Mila. Exactly what the whole writers and actors strike going on is partially about.
@@ObserveCZcams I wish you wouldn't. Especially with the strikes going on with actors and writers. Even in an instance like this, it presents using AI to replace a person as something acceptable and normalizes it.
@@RivaNishiokait’s awesome
(criminologist here) ughhh I know this is an unpopular take and I know I will get hate for saying it, but I do feel it’s important to understand that character statements are very standard in criminal proceedings and are not at all intended to detract from the crime or victims themselves. Character statements are intended to assist judges in forming a more nuanced understanding of the accused and their capacity for prosocial behaviour, so that they can decide a fair and appropriate sentence (e.g. by providing an additional form of evidence for the judge to consider when assessing the offender's prospect of rehabilitation vs reoffending). Providing a character statement does not equate to Ashton and Mila believing Danny is not guilty, it’s simply a testament to their experience of him over an extended period and in varying contexts.
They are standard, of course. And they have choices to write them. Laura Prepon didn't write anything. Wilmer Valderrama didn't either. They didn't have to do this but they did. They have stated their opinions about Danny, and people have opinions about him, too.
But what you have to admit it here is, the drug-free references had no bearing on anything. He was already convicted of using drugs on the women so saying he encouraged a drug-free lifestyle was meant to retroactively dismiss the claims against him. That is the problem. Everything else could be a statement of character. But Danny Masterson is a HEAVY alcoholic. They were lying and obfuscating about the drugs. The court already knew he's not drug-free. He had to go in to medical upon arrival at prison because he was in withdrawals. The judge would have already known he isn't "drug free", and then possibly took the rest of the character statements in their letters with a grain of salt. Sadly, they likely messed up their careers for the near future over this. Ashton already supported Joe Paterno after the Sandusky controversy. He has a penchant for this.
That's understandable, but the content of these particular letters seems to question the credibility of the victims, especially the statements about drugs (the victims were drugged). Then in their video they don't apologize to *Danny's* victims, they just insist that they support *all* victims.
Your take is as valid as any other on here. Would you agree though that their letters are unusually effusive? Or is it the norm to "lay it on thick" ?
The point is also that their character statements obviously seemed incredibly scripted and not genuine.
Thank you. I have very conflicting feelings on this whole backlash. I I’m a survivor of SA that happened in the early 2000’s. The person who assaulted me also had character witnesses and he got away with probation. People are so black and white on this issue as if it isn’t more nuanced. I also feel like Danny’s sentencing seems like quite a lot of time compared to people who have done worse and gotten away with less time. Not to say that he doesn’t deserve to pay that time, but it seems like there should be more of a standard. Idk. I think the whole situation is much more nuanced and people are allowing their emotions to drive when looking at a legal situation. A person can commit horrible acts but still have been a decent person to others. He also could have cleaned his act up or learned from his actions over the past 20 years. Either way, he’s going to pay his time in jail.
That eyebrow lift, by mila, when Ashton mentions the family reaching out to them to write those letters, seems almost like she wishes they had never asked, like she didn’t want to get involved at all…but I’m guessing the church of Scientology came to them and pressured them…and maybe not the Actual family…I’m not defending them at all, but I believe the “church” was behind them having g to give the judge character letters…and now that they’re public (I’m guessing they were told they wouldn’t be) now they’re pissed cuz I don’t believe they wanted to be involved in this…
I would love to see you cover more of this case!
"I didn't think we'd get caught." That's all I hear. "He was good to US, so what he did to others doesn't matter." Just awful.
💯 I hear "I'm sorry we got caught"
I didn't realize that these letters were after the judgement and sentencing, yikes.
It would be bad enough to send these prior, but knowing the ruling and still sticking up for him is over the line.
The letters were sent after he was found guilty. They became public after sentencing.
@@nicholeh1280 Well, after the ruling and they knew he was guilty before the letters. I have a feeling they already did anyway.
I initally thought that they were just letters in support of his character during the trial, before any ruling.
Ashton and Mila also knew the victims as they were friends with them!!! A good slap in the face to the victims...
@@littlemonster2483 So I heard, they were all in the same cult.
@@-suphur I don't think Ashton and Mila are Scientologists but I think Ashton is close to them because Danny is a Scientologist. The women all were in the Church of Scientology though who were part of the reason Danny got away with it. The channel Growing up In Scientology has some interesting information on the case!!!
Omg! CLicked so fast! You're obvious effort does not go unnoticed. THX ❤
yo Ashton's letter is wild it's worse than I imagined, I didn't want to read it and you caught me off guard, oh man this is absolutely vile
You were fast on this one! So appreciate how well you put this together, esp for the survivors.
Your content is great and your production is awesome! I’ve loved watching your channel grow!
Small note, maybe I missed it but I think you should be clearer on the fact that you used AI voices to read the letters and that its not a reading from them. A lot of shows will make sure to point out or have a notice on screen that it is a dramatic reading, i think this is especially important when using an AI copy of the persons actual voice.
As the subject matter of this channel makes clear, there is a lot of additional information in tone and emotion beyond the words, and its important you dont put that on them. Kunis' reading is maybe chirpier than she may have wanted for example.
Just an... observation..
agreed!
I was waiting for this!!! Thanks for getting this to us so fast Logan!
I kept thinking of you while I first watched their response video!! Thank you for this!!
After hearing what Ashton had to say I bet he is heartbroken about his friend. I also feel bad to hear he has a daughter.😔
He knew
For years
@@nowirehangers2815That makes sense but something smells.
We appreciate your analysis as always. Keep working hard.
Omggg I have been waiting for a breakdown of this public apology!!!
Yes! I can't wait to watch this! Gotta go to work now, but I know what I'm watching for my lunch break today! Thanks!
Its wild to me when women support SAers like how can you sleep at night?
I dont have a problem with them writing letters. Its standard practice. They were trying to help a friend.
But saying that Danny never used drugs seems to be undermining the victims because they were drugged.
Thank you for the closed captions!
I’ve been WAITING ON THIS
Ashton and That 70s show are complicit to an extent. There’s interviews where he and Mila are talking about how they had to kiss on set and it was her first kiss. He was 19 and she was 14. Danny bet Ashton that he wouldn’t actually use tongue and Ashton accepted/ did the challenge. To a FOURTEEN year old. And then he bragged about it in front of Mila in a joint interview on The Rosie Show. And there’s also solo interviews from Mila at the time saying how wrong and inappropriate the scripts were for a 14 year old.
He groomed her
He’s just like his friend
😢😭