Neighbor Todd Gilbert testifies in Lori Vallow Daybell trial
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Todd Gilbert, Chad Daybell's neighbor, testified in Lori Vallow Daybell's trial on Tuesday, May 2. Listen in the video player above.
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My bird died and I could not function for weeks and demanded an autopsy. These people were monsters. They were going to continue killing.
Still haven’t gotten over my German shepherd it’s been 4 years now 😢 these two Lori and Chad are beyond evil
I sobed for weeks after my cat died and I'm not even into cats ,he was originally my sons cat and I just got left with him. I even got him cremated and got him a lovely urn. These people aren't even animals , the way they disrespected and undignified the disposal of these kids, cause that's what they did , disposed of them like trash ,its inhumane.
Yes, 25 years ago, I had my cat autopsied. I wasn’t sobbing my heart out for weeks, but I wanted to know how I had missed that he was so ill. (It did explain why, as it turned out.)
Right! If my cat passed on, I told my bf that he'll have to put me in a psych ward.
Wait.....are you serious? Do they.....do that? Animal autopsies? I'm sorry about your bird and my potential ignorant question.
To think Chud had the guts to ask the Gilbert’s to put THEIR HOME up for Lori’s bail!! Unbelievable!!
It took my breath away that he actually called them back next day and said he had someone ready to do the paperwork - literally taking it for granted that they would risk their hime for him.
You mean the nerve!
I mean like what a disconnected imbecile
Really ??!!
How wicked dark and twisted!!!
And for him and torrid Lorri to give themselves the authority to label innocent ones "DARK".....
.Tjooooooo......these two became "the devil itself"
Wow, that is some narcissistic behavior.
What a creep!
Chad was confusing "visions" with premeditation
I wish I'd thought of saying that! You're spot on!!!!
Brilliantly stated!!!
Well said !
Chad was delusional and a doofess. Stupid books that were so dumb
I don’t think he was confused thou. He knew better.
They were telling people Lori’s daughter was dead admitting it before the bodies were found. That’s an admission of guilt. They said the kids were safe and knew where they were. In fact they knew where they were and knew that they were dead and buried in his yard. How insane and evil is that. And all the while blaming everything on Kaye woodcock for trying to find and talk to her grandson. Calling everyone else evil and dark when the whole time it was them doing evil and dark. I feel so sorry for the grandparents and all of both families that these three have done this to all these innocent children and innocent family members.
Agree w you on the daughter thing so sad
they said Loris daughter has passed before anyone even knew she was missing
They thought so little of the kids, they actually thought nobody would miss them. The only thing she had to do is move out of state and tell a few lies and they would just be believed. Why? Because everyone had always believed their lies. They are sooo delusional.
Right and are they so stupid that they thought they could tell different ppl different stories and think no one would compare notes lol ..this is one of the craziest most insane things that I've been alive to witness in true crime. In history it's been...been Ted Bundy. Charles Manson.... Jeffrey Dahmer ,now Lori dumbbell...it's that prolific ..she's in good company...of evil ppll...Yeah isn't it ironic that they were calling the good ones dark and they were light lol. In reality like you said they were evil
I agree and all these other born again phonies going along with this evil plot are also guilty of extreme complacency cost innocent lives as well. All of them should cancel dying, seriously. The Bible warns such f,s that to harm innocent (children) in the name of the Lord well you might as well face being thrown in the debt of the ocean seas with an anchor around your neck. 😮😢😂❤
What a hot mess..even the bird is calling bs
Exactly ! 🦜
🤣🤣🤣
So they took chads grown children to Disney while Lori’s minor children were dead and buried in the back yard. Absolutely disgusting people they had no care in the world.
Well, Lori's kids didn't like him. 🙄
These people are so incredibly disgusting. Those babies break my heart.
chances are they were planning to get life insurance on those kids spouces and bump them off one by one to fund their new church and lifestyle
@@StellaKnights
Exactly what I was thinking
I guess chads kids weren’t dark , since they got to live ! I hope both these screwballs get life in prison
Chad's kiddos aren't much better. Disney? With the blonde HUSSY that Dad was keeping time with in the days after my mother's DEATH??? Nah, not me. Go watch Heather Daybell's interview about that fatso. He's been an awful person for a while.
Todd and his wife were the kind of neighbors that most people would love to have. Sorry they had to be in this mess. Thank you both for testifying.
I honestly think I would be a bit discombobulated to think my neighbours were immersed in a culture - an INDUSTRY - that’s all about the end of civilisation or even the planet.
5:50 I don’t think I would forget it if my neighbor told me he had a vision that his wife was going to die before the age of 50.
Horrific for them. Geez.😢
No Way I would put my property up for his New Wife to get out of Jail!! Poor Tammy!! He was married to tammy for over 24 yrs..5 kids...He kills her the marry this B!!! SICK!!
These two believe in heaven but are going straight to hell!!!
Blame it on whomever they want to, the voices they were hearing were their own.
Best chuckle today from your comment.
🎯
definite echo chamber
OMG! I'm Christian and I've never heard such utter and complete BS in my life.
I’m LDS and neither have I
Thank you for saying that.
LDS and true Christianity are not the same faith! They do not share the same theology!
now imagine being an atheist and hearing this!
@mynameiseve.1 I'm athiest and have been since l was 14 years old...l'm now 64. I was 14 when l realised it was all bollocks.😂l was taught by nuns and priests...Needless to say l'm not the gullible type😂
So Chad admits verbally to his neighbor that Lori’s daughter is deceased. 🧐
Yep then tries to back peddle later on. Interesting huh?
That will get them convicted
And didn't like him, which implies in a very short period of time, the daughter knew him, didn't like him, and died. 😮
@@ambersandhals9571 true
@@ciarajackson9862how so?
😂😂 that bird was not having any of their crap talk LOL I loved all his loud noise.
I have birds and I laughed when I heard their “warning whistles.” Smart birds. Mr Gilbert said he thought they were kids! Birds are very bright creatures.
Yes haha! And who in their right minds would upload a podcast of such poor quality??? The bird is better heard than the people, fortunately!!! 😂
🤣🤣🤣
Totally agree!😂😂😂😂
Same , that bird knew it was a load of bull.
Why didn’t anyone question how fast Lori & Chad married? It’s quite obvious chad had been cheating on Tammy! That’s not normal
I think Mormons marry quickly; Lori's niece, Melanie, married her 2nd husband after just two weeks of knowing him.
The quick marriage has been discussed. They know!
Too polite probably.
@deedee arias marrying quickly is common in the church, but not THS quickly. He should have been grieving for a year or two. Once meeting someone, marrying quickly would mean less than a year after meeting. This would raise eyebrows for any Mormon.
@@deedeearias9906 yes they did maybe not so much anymore. We lived in Logan Utah. I was 19 had a kid right after I turned 20. I never loved him. He was 4-5 yrs older. I was told god said we were supposed to be married. I had no family support and no friends. My half sisters were a lot older and 1 not a part of the church but they didn’t say anything, they went along with it. There was no one saying go to school or wait for a couple years. We had 3 kids he was going to school our whole marriage and working. He met someone at work. I’m sure he cheated but told everyone I was cheating. He filed for divorce and had them served to be at the house. I had no idea. I didn’t have a job or anywhere to go. He got married real quick. I couldn’t take the kids cuz I had nowhere to go. I had to rent a room from a stranger. I did get custody after a couple years. I met someone very supportive. My ex caused problems fighting for the kids so he wouldn’t have to pay child support. Him and the new wife were abusive to the kids and my dogs. I took my dogs as soon as I could. He caused so much trauma for 10 years because he’s so narcissistic. I love my kids but he ruined my life. I never had any family support. We moved to AZ and had no family around. No one cared. I have 2 older half sisters and a half brother that’s 7 years older. My parents never cared. I didn’t have any friend. Church people turn their nose up when you get divorced. The divorce rate in the church is very high now. I haven’t been back to church since 2009. I still believe in a lot just not the extreme teachings that don’t fit in with real life.
That female prosecutor is tenacious, she very good in my opinion ☝🏻
The lady prosecutor were vicious at the end...ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!!
I was worried before the trial now I see how methodical and professional she is
Interesting way to have your client testify without taking the stand.
I questioned Boyce on that very ruling.
These people are so up themselves, absolutely nothing to do with genuine Faith in God , everything to do with delusion and self obsession.
I agree they were so self centered nothing else mattered.
Thank you! Spot on!
Right on target
Who in their right mind announces their wife won't live past 50...and then murders the poor wretched woman. 👿 and please tell me is kids aren't still saying he was set up...
They not the brightest bunch,
@@puddlespickles8810 sadly!
Who cares at this point. I highly recommend ppl stay far away from Chad and all his children
Keep in mind cults will recruit any and all
Yeah bc If he’d ever said that (about his wife dying at 50)and I found out about it……ummm I’m skipping town!!! Chad is no prophet he’s just got some folks BELIEVING he is a prophet due to the outlandish things he claims.
I watched that video of his 5 kids again just the other day. Talk about deceived!!!!!!
Chad knew Tammy was going to die because he was going to make sure she did.
Also he was sniffing round the Gilberts - seeking another possible cash source?
Todd could divorce/(or worse) his wife and marry one of Chad's casting devotees?
The Gilberts were too smart and too observant for Chad to get even a 'look in'.
Mrs Gilbert seemed to be someone with her head firmly on her shoulders, but Mr Gilbert did not strike me as smart at all. Another of these people into the end times industry, but I guess that’s part of LDS doctrine these days, no loonier than the rest of it. After he obligingly agreed with whichever attorney he was talking at that moment, about the podcast, I began to see why Chad thought he’d be a slam dunk for bail money.
@@eh1702 he seems the type to just do his own thing and let his wife lead the relationship.
It doesn’t sound as if he bought into it but was too nice to tell them they were charlatans
So C had had the life insurance money from Tammy but needed more to get her out?I think they were going to run if that happened
Curious why Chad did not use Tammy’s life insurance payout for his beloved wife?
Chad was hoping Tammy’s death would go unnoticed and he could say he was right all along and how his visions told him correctly that Tammy was going not die and all of the idiots who he told would be sucked into his cult even further
Lori's claim to have seen Jesus in His resurrected form is a red flag for me that screams megalomania.
It does, I think Chad claimed to be THE HOLY SPIRIT in three separate lifetimes. I guess to them, the Holy Spirit is like a CEO position that gets filled and refilled...🙄
I wonder how many of these folks upon self reflection have realized they’ve been royally duped? Can they not hear how stupid they sound? I just don’t get it?
Yeah, what a bunch of clowns!
they were all so deep in the church they lost the ability for critical thinking.
He even used Tammys death to enforce the fact that he’s the great predictor of the future! That’s so sick.
The great , delusional chad
Lori and chad hated her kids... religious beliefs aside 😡
This is not the first time a woman has chosen a new husband over her children, but to participate in murdering them is beyond comprehension!
I don’t know if it was hatred- Chunky chad most likely had no feelings towards them but Lori wanted their $$ w/no strings like taking care of them attached. It was all about greed for her imo and for chunky he was just in heat for Lori
@@ciarajackson9862 yes exactly, and she seems to think she had looked after the children for long enough, telling her son she cared for Tylee while she was sick and telling her sister she had cared for them for years.
i think Lori was just so over the good mother act. she wanted her "me" time
Wow it’s so overwhelming.. like unbelievable but Evil exists among the greedy, narcissistic losers who are their own worst enemies. We must recognize these fools & act accordingly. Sadly innocent children, adults & others pay the cost of these greedy devils.
How in the heck did Chad Daybell know Tammy had an embolism??? Omg! That sounds so very familiar! I think another neighbor died during this time of an embolism. I vaguely remember an argument Chad had with that neighbor before this death. Fact: Tammy did not have an embolism, she did not die of natural causes. None of their victims died of natural causes. I think they were poisoned, hacked, chopped, burned, buried, smothered, shot and treated as garbage. Lori knew exactly what was going down on each of these victims. It was calculated, and planned and done by a inner circle of people who were decieved by lies, and submitted their will to two self proclaimed god and goddess evil people who wanted money, power, and sex. Justice for all the victims!!!! My thoughts go out to all the witnesses who courageously told the truth!
Po
The podcast is like listening to crazy people on the street corner talking to themselves
Haha! Truly!
It’s no surprise these people were nuts, that screaming bird would drive anyone crazy. Also who would intentionally film something for others to listen to with a screaming bird , no one had the sense to cover the bird before recording???
Thank you!! And he was chirping every time she spoke😂 I've known pet birds to chime in on phone conversations. Record it elsewhere!
Sense? They don't know this word...everything that happens in their life is either satan or angels. No personal accountabitity
Omg!! I totally agree!!
I couldn't listen to it!
I think that the bird was the best thing of all of the podcast😂
Very weird. I used to have a parrot and all it takes to make them quiet is to put them back in the cage and cover it with a blanket for a while. Without visual stimulation they calm down and you're able to do what you need to do and uncover them right after. I find it baffling that (A) she the owner didnt do anything with it themselves, and (B) nobody else told them.
The Gilberts appear to be kind people. Chad is the type of person who would see kindness as gullibility. They easily set him straight.
Agree
I wonder if Chads children have realized that if A) Alex cox was alive and B) if they ever spoke against Lori that there would be a likelihood they would also become victims. I cannot think that Chad would choose their lives over Lori
Chad’s children were older and not dependent - I think Chad & Lori did not want the responsibility or company of Lori’s younger dependents - they would have cramped their style!
@@dawnb3194 I agree to a point. I think once funds started to run low they’d have life insurance policies taken out on them and have an “accident” or some odd natural causes death after a “vision”
I disagree. I think Chad would put his kids on a pedestal and only Lori’s kids are expendable. This happens to a lesser degree all the time with step kids. Most people don’t murder their kids but there are levels of importance in family dynamics for sure.
@@freckles2773 I think you may be right & I’ve commented before that I bet his kids wouldn’t have been expendable. But for sure I believe Lori didn’t want rid of them for the other reasons. However according to testimony in the trial today from Chad & Tammy’s neighbour & friend, Chad took off immediately after Tammy’s memorial & left his children upset & feeling unwanted by him/fearing they were going to lose both parents. I think Chad & Lori only care about Chad & Lori.
@@dawnb3194 and remember lori kids were worth money
Amazing that the Gilbert’s didn’t suffer embolisms😮
😂
If they had let Chad move in they would have both died of embolism and the house/land would've been willed to him
😂😂😂😂😂😂
They really held a whole podcast with a bird going off like that???😂😂
I'm sure the 5 listeners they had didn't mind😂😂😂
@@CaroLinek88 i'm sure the 5 listeners were soon to be zero after 1 minute in
Seems like they put the mic in the bird cage!!
None of them could hear that bird over the voices in their heads
Chad had a vision his wife would die, what crap😡
Whoa!!! Chad tells his friend/neighbor that his just deceased wife had an embolism?!! Hmmm. His neighbor and insurance agent, Eldon, had died of an embolism just a short time before. Alex dies of an embolism just a short time after. If I was close to this guy, I’d be watching what I was breathing for fear I might develop an embolism and die, too.
Yeah i thought that was weird too.. I thought maybe the coroner might have said it "could be an embolism" when they were there earlier in the morning, and then Chad just parroted it.
Contact lens solution.
TBH, if you know someone who is a “con artist” type &/or habitual liar, they do often recycle chunks of other people’s experiences or life stories - what illnesses they come up with is really often pinched off someone they know.
Lies that one single person I know came up with, within a week or so of other people that I knew having genuine experience of - arc-eye (happens to welders); dangerous allergy to codeine; burst eardrum; myocarditis…
@@americanmeteoritefan9670 or eye drops
So weird
Why didn't they play the part of the podcast where Lori talks about wanting to kill Joe Ryan?!
Because the defense doesn’t want that in but I sure wish that her lawyer would screw up and enter it
2:43:11 is where the lawyer addresses that.
@@valeriegomez201 Oh thanks, I'll listen to that.
would someone explain how Tammy fell out of bed AFTER she was dead?
So crazy.
" She rolled out " according to Chad 🙄
SOOO Chad’s kids go to Disney world while Lori’s kids are dismembered, burned, suffocated and buried in Chad’s backyard. 🤷🏼♀️ WTF 🤬?
Who does a podcast and has a bird chirping all the way through. 🙄🥴 🐦 Bird brains.
I've NEVER EVER heard anything that unprofessional presented as a "podcast". Unbelievable how they ever expected anyone to listen to that ridiculous recording with all that background noise! Also all of them sounded like teenagers. Very simple people it seems.
Agreed. They sure seemed to have very high opinions of themselves for no good reason
I was thinking the same thing!
I just don't get this. Why is it so important to the defence to "explain what the witness listened y"? I don't see what there is to be gained from listening to this recording, for the defence, ir why the prosecutor objects so strongly. It seems completely irrelevant. The only thing I took from it was that Melanie Gibb sounds totally insincere. I don't trust her one bit.
I believe it’s to prove it was Lori’s true belief that ‘God’ has difficult tasks for her to carry out - therefore in mitigation, her belief it was God’s call to murder/direct the murders of her 2 children. My question to Chad & Lori is, “why the need to cover up your dastardly deeds, if you acted in true faith and goodness?” - it’s ok I think I know the answer …..
@@dawnb3194 Yeah I get your point. This is the question I've been pondering. At times it seems they really believe in what they claimed, but as you say, they were so devious. I wonder if we will ever know the whole truth?
Melanie Gibb felt the heat coming down on her so she decided not to keep “helping her BFF” keep her secrets. In my opinion.
This podcast just made her hole a bit deeper. She's looney toons gone killer.
She can try to gather all of the women warrior's she wants in prison!!!!! Good luck 😂😂😂
seems like people are being coy about how bound up the mormon church and its culture are with this case. chad's spouting this visions crap and members of the church are just fine with it. look at what it led to, a whole train of dead bodies.
I agree. Churches who breed fear of the last days (Mormon, SDA, Jehovah Witness) are full of looney tunes, crazy people. I think the reason the church itself is not being looked into more is because of the freedom to practice religion in the US. And it seems to me that it’s pointed out often “this isn’t what LDS believe” to remove themself from this severe of beliefs. But their People Prepare conferences are indeed crazy!
Mormons are a strange lot
I’m not lds but I haven’t heard any defending any of this nonsense- I’ve seen them condemn their actions. I don’t really know what their beliefs are but Chad and loris nonsense was more
I was a member and no one stands up for anything. They believe everything and go with it or hide it or ignore it. My ex made members but mostly leaders believe I was the one cheating and he was the victim. Ge married real quick after the divorce. He hit my daughter and abused my dogs. I got my dogs away fast and was able to get custody of my kids after 2 years. Thank god I was able to get my kids away from those 2 horrible people. She has a daughter and they had 2 kids together. Her daughter is a total mental mess and lives with her dad. She left and deserted her kids with him. They have moved so many times. He convinced her to get baptized and we taught her together about the teachings then he filed for divorce so he could be with her. I can totally seeing him unaliving me to be with her. Thank god he wasn’t a killer. He would have gotten away with it. He was a nurse and stole meds so he could have easily done something. He only wanted the kids for selfish reasons. He caused problems for 10 years while still going to church acting like he’s a godly person who is perfect. It has come back to bite his but. He can’t keep a job the poor kids are getting older. My kids won’t even go to his place. It’s in a bad area and they now see what a bad person he is.
Wonder if the church excommunicated anyone that went to chad and Lori's "teachings" or even excommunicated chad or lori?
I'm having a hard time trying to listen to this testimony with a commercial every 2 minutes!
Me too
I don't have commercials...could be ur membership plan or lack thereof
Hi! I'm watching your summary of court every night! from, Morgan, UT
Thank u Nate! U r doing an excellent job for all of us!
That's nice, Chad's kids get to go to Disney, and Lori's kids get put in the ground!
Sick monsters😢😢😢
She really loved telling people that Jesus and God directly communicated with her.
Did anyone catch that while Melanie Gibb is saying her craziness introduction she says "I was praying and praying over and over I kept praying IN MY CLOSET!!!" is she saying what I think shes saying ? Is she talking about a PORTAL? And if you listen to her interviews with police and even her testimony (ON THE STAND not at church) , she acts like she doesn't know what a "portal" is and laughs and makes fun and acts clueless and states many times that shes not like lori and chad? Who does is she think she's fooling?
Well, I’ve heard of people who pray in their closets. I even saw a movie about it. “War Room”. I’m not saying all of these people were crazy and horrible. At least two are murderers.
Sure lol
Praying in your closet is in LDS scripture. It means praying in private.
@@JennySmith-MormonShare it’s in the Bible also, but not saying the closet exactly.
She’s a nutball salad
He is definitely favoring the defense but I assume it’s to mitigate any possibility of his verdict being overturned on appeal
Very careless words. If you pay closer attention to the entire trial you will see the same "preference" toward the prosecution.
This is pre-Chad...Shes already talking about contracts signed in previous lives. This was not just Chads plan. Lori had her own plan. Shes a goddess and needed somebody to give her legitimacy. Thats why she was stalking these conferences. She was on the hunt for her putz.
No she knew Chad at this point
She had read many of Chad’s books before meeting him.
Incredible that this judge allowed this podcast to be played. I don’t see the point.
The public has a right to know and listen to this. It's a public trial.
Jurors will see it all - how they used Jesus to just do whatever they wanted.
To my mind it’s bad for the defense.
1. It shows Lori’s intention to form a cult of women followers existed pre-Chad, according to her.
2. It shows Lori thinks of her first encounter with Melanie G not as budding friendship but as the recruitment of her first follower.
3. It shows her giving a spiel about a face to face encounter with Jesus where he personally gave her a mission to recruit “women warriors” - yet she evidently overwrote it with Chad’s demons and reincarnation schtick.
4. She really makes it plain that as a married woman she got all giddy and infatuated at first sight with Chad and had no moral qualms about it at all.
5. There is one bit I didn’t understand at all where she seems to refer to someone else important to her as “Jason”. I reran that a couple of times thinking I must’ve misheard “Chad and…”… but it still sounded like Jason. I haven’t heard all of it that was played in court, though.
@@eh1702 Jason Mow.
Oh, OK, now they have mentioned this Jason Mow is “Thor” in that podcast. INTERESTING - clearly Lori was as giddy about him as about Chad, at least back in 2018.
That podcast was insufferable…..
I get the- “ lori brought dungeons and dragons to prayer group” vibe
So... I'm not sure why the defense wanted this podcast admitted? It seem to only make Lori look worse. She already belived in this before Chad. How could this podcast help Lori at all?
To elicit sympathy from the jury. It gives context to Lori’s beliefs, values and misguided actions. Basically, she’s not the only one.
There is something very revealing in someone pious talking about “what God has to offer me”. I thought in Christian or quasi-Christian circles it’s meant to be “What I have to offer God”.
It is also what God can provide for us. I'm a Methodist and I think all religions believe God provides for us in many ways and we serve him.
@@Idgjy She makes it sound like she’s a customer.
I'm sorry to say Chad killed his wife.
No one was killed, except those Chad wanted murdered. According to the evidence presented at Trial, it seems that Chad personally killed at least 2: Tylee & Tammy, if not all.
You don't say LOL.
Bless the hearts of the Gilberts 💗🙏 It's just unfortunate that they were made to undergo such grief for a dear (another good person) friend Tammy 💗And were tried to be made foolish by putting up home for the devil's freedom 😢 The nerve 😤
Why in the world were the Gilberts going along with Chad and being his friend after he told them about his girlfriend a WEEK after Tammy died??? Most people wouldn’t want to have anything to do with someone like that. It’s beyond weird. What a cruel thing to do to Tammy’s memory right after she died!.
Oh my God not mr. Gilbert fell for that too good grief
What the heck is that squealing in the background??
Melanie Gibbs is just as bad as Lori. She went along with all of this until she was under fire.
FYI…God in the Bible calls speaking to the dead necromancy….and it is witchcraft an abomination.
My takeaway from this is that Lori had already set her mind on an end-times author as her cult leadership partner before Chad came along.
She already had her end-times war story-arc for the next two years worked out, but at that time it was all leader-of-women-warriors stuff.
With her story of being divinely ordered by the angel Moroni to meet “a messenger” at the temple, she evidently thought at first that Jason Mow, who “writes about the angel Moroni” was gonna be it.
When he didn’t pan out, she found Chad and his zombie reincarnation version instead.
And Chad didn’t need to be in charge of the guys, he couldn’t carry off the guns and rippling survivalist muscles schtick. He happy to have Lori do all the leadershipping and have Alex to do the gun stuff.
I guess she couldn't get Jason Mow to kill his wife off for her. 🤷🏻♀️
@@FindMeOnABeach Some guys, huh.
my takeway is that they're all lunatics, nothing more nothing less
@@jimskeuh That’s too easy an out for them. They wanted power and money. Their level of entitlement and narcissism is the insanity.
I totally think Lori had her hormones set on Jason Mow but he had someone else, I believe. Chad was Lori were pre chosen to be people gatherers for the church of LDS. Jason and Lori seemed like a more obvious duo to be paired up. Just like Alex being paired up to marry Zulema, Ian and Melanie were also paired up to marry. I think Lori and Chad wanted Audrey to hook up with Alex initially, not Zulema imo
Interesting she told her sister she grieved before dancing on Hawaii and now she is at Tammy's neighbors and planning a trip for his kids to Knott's berry soon after... Oops thought she was grieving? State is doing great. Her lawyer is a moron. She will say he sucked and later want a new trial
Probably why the judge is giving the defense all they want in order to avoid a mistrial
Even that bird overheard the podcast and was trying to shut it down
This is all so sad. How can two people be so selfish.
Geez! How can that court reporter keep up with all the judge/ lawyer discussion!! I sure can’t even follow it!!!
The voice Todd Gilbert identified as Lori sounded more like Melanie Gibb to me.
Anyhow -Mr Gilbert is so agreeable he’ll agree to anything either attorney asks about this podcast thing. It begins to become clear why Chad thought Todd Gilbert would be dumb enough to put his hime up to get bail for Lori.
Nate why didn't these people ever go to the police & let them know what they knew? I felt after both their testimonies that were a little enamored w/Chad. If I knew he killed his wife then came to my house asking to bond his accomplished I would have kicked his butt to kingdom come not say-let me think about it!!
Did the Gilberts not think to inform the police during the very public search for the kids, that Chad had told them, Tylee didn’t like me and didn’t like people.
These people are weird.
Or that Lori had a deceased daughter?
@@miogi0072 Alice said to Chad, didn’t Tylee deserve to grow up, have boyfriends, get a job. Chad must have told her Tylee was dead and she said nothing.
Chad- “ the prepping thing is getting old” he said that to Todd. they knew more and Chad thought they were trusted IMO
Nate, during the proceedings has anyone talked about Lori’s wedding dress and the wedding ring which was purchased before Tammy died?
i know Kay did
Jason Mow put the warrior rubbish into their heads. Teaching your children to prepare to fight. Sounds like David Koresh. Lori is a good story teller
Im going to start referring to Chad as Chode.
Aren’t the mormons so gullible, he even had his neighbours believing his bs. LDS members take religion way too seriously to the point they become fanatics.
Lori doesn't seem like a saint. Latter day or any other.
Seems to me this preparation for the end of the world has been going on for a long time. I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s, near several churches, one of them a Mormon church. Even then my mom told me the Mormons stored a lot of food.
I find it interesting that they're so cagey about it. Whenever any of these witnesses are asked about these prepareness conferences and if it's tied to their belief about the end of the world, they act like that's an absurd proposition almost. Ofc being prepared can ALSO help you during a blackout or a tornado, but they're so unwilling or ashamed to just stand by the real purpose. So much for all these flowery direct encounters with God and angels, when they cant even proudly admit to their beliefs. Really shows the depth of some people's faith when they cant even admit these things on the stand.
If you believe in the second coming of Jesus Christ you don’t need to prepare for food storage. You best prepare your belief and your heart.
I said aside enough to get me through an earthquake that’s my job I’ve been emergency manager as far as the end of the world stuff I’d be giving away everything I had. My son wanted me to get a gun I said why and he said well people are gonna come and steal your food, and I said no I’ll give all the food away is it that way Jesus taught us to do?
The point of that podcast was a complete waste of time. Lori's voice hella annoying.
These people were on a mission. They had a plan and that plan included killing zombies. Chad had a list with thousands of names on it, and was prioritized by who had to die first. If they had not killed people so close to them, can you imagine what they mightve done?
The judge seems to favor the defense. Does anyone else think that too?
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes
Doing that so that she won’t be able to ask for this trial because the judge was against her. It’s a smart move as a judge.
@@grannytrez I thought that too bcos he could see she was going to get convicted on all counts
I will add the sex more important to Chad than Lori, sex was power, control to Lori not lust.
I have a very strong gut feeling that Lori is the type who will take the stand in her own defense. I believe she thinks she can trick even the jurors. Should be interesting.
I do too.She wants the attention to tell her story of being a Godly person & warm of end times!
I keep thinking Chad will actually
It’s now clear that her lawyers stopped her
So chads kids got to go to Disneyland and loris kids get murdered?!
These people are crazy and they turned into killer's
It is self serving judge because it is a statement of verbal corrosion to get the audience to believe in a religious experience had by the defendant.Lori Vallow Daybell and her friends group .This is a hear say testimony.
My question is How do they(Chad/Lori) claim that breaking about 5 of the 10 commandments is ok , with this religion !!!!
Mormons are very nice people mostly but they are following a manmade religion
What an absolute complete waist of time by the defense.
Please consider making the closed captions available, thanks!
Oh also THE BIRD, THAT FREAKING BIRD !!! Did you know that Josh Powell owned the same kind of bird! Ooowe! And have you noticed that NOBODY seems even remotely bothered by the psychotic noises from that bird almost like they are used to sounds like that while confessing their unhealthy obsessive love they have for themselves and their Heavenly parents and Jesus and SATAN!
This judge is pathetic. He just caves for the defense with almost every single objection while being overly restrictive with the state.
Lori LIED LIKE A RUG when saying she’d been married *once* before (instead of FOUR times before), and claiming her recent ex had died of a heart attack not being shot and murdered by her creep brother Alex (Alex and Lori behaved in overtly sexual ways according to several persons). Chad “helping Lori…write a book”…lmfao..So that’s what they were doing in the bedroom and in the hotel in Hawaii!
I don't think the judge is being fair he's for the defense team.😢
Sorry I meant state
He's being fair. If Lori is found guilty, and he didn't allow it in, she could win on appeal.
@@girlfromsouth214 Thank you! I think the judge is wise and he's actually not favoring the Defense.
He is also LDS. Interesting to note. I completely agree with you, he seems a bit prejudiced. I cant believe he allowed the podcast
Mr. Gilbert is such a likeable man, I find myself chucking at the way he answers questions and saying, " what a sweet man". Chad ( someone said he looks like a thumb 😂) has caused so much collateral damage, touching the lives of so many innocent people over a god complex 😢
It seems to me that there is about an hour of duplicated audio in this clip. Am I wrong?
yes,
Melanie Gibb was a huge part of this cult.
She was the “gatherer “ eg rounding up and recruiting people for the cult . they all had their so called mission
I watch from Maine. I am glad you are keeping us up to date.
I hope ALL the $$$$$ from the many many “commercials” go to a non profit organization or children !!! OMG
Indeed. This is probably my last.
It wouldn't matter if Chad and Lori had the best lawyers representing them. They would need to have a jury full of Melanies and zulemas in order to avoid what is almost certainly coming for them. I've heard child killers dont do well in prison. Hopefully that's true.
Where were they recording their whacky podcast, in a zoo? So appropriate
1:07:18 LDS/Mormons are known to be gullible for a reason.
There is no such thing as heavenly mother. This is blasphemy
You are blasphemy now.
Mary the mother of Jesus Christ has been known as heavenly mother since early church.
@@malibudolphin3109 she was indeed Jesus mother on earth. But there is NO heavenly mother. Jesus is our ONLY way to God. The ONLY way.
it’s all just a fantasy y’all making it sound like fact none of religion is fact it’s based on a story book no proof it was even real smh
Loving that bird!!!
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Mr Gilbert being asked about the podcast he listened to is irrelevant. It was his neighbor and fellow church member who told him about a podcast. Just bc he and his wife listened to it doesn't mean they were followers. I listen to tons of true crime and serial killer podcasts. That doesn't make me a cop nor a serial killer.
Judge has got to be LDS to think this lori podcast is worth anything to the jury other than the self serving BS that it is!!
I think the defence is trying to show the influence/ appeal Chad Daybells ideals would have on Lori. The prosecution- on the other hand, may be trying to unearth more earth bound motivations, like power, money,etc.
On that tape podcast they're playing I hear a kid and a dog in the background. Would that be JJ and his Dog?
What dose this have to do with the murder of two children
Well, it shows they knew Tylee was dead and were probably thinking of getting rid of JJ too. They were telling people Lori's daughter had died before her body had been found. Meanwhile, when the families were asking about the kids, they told them consistently that they were fine, safe, hidden in some place. So clearly they were making contradictory claims.
Umm, because Lori is being charged for her part in Tammy Daybells death so all this testimony about Tammy's death and how Chad was behaving is absolutely pertinent to the case 👌
Apart from what others here say about how they admitted to the Gilberts that Lori had a dead daughter and pretended JJ didn’t exist (yet later told everyone else that the kids were with their grandparents and with Melanie G)….
Well, Lori is also on trial for conspiracy to kill Tammy. The testimony from the Gilberts goes to show both of them were concealing the children’s deaths, and together with other evidence it shows that they each had been anticipating and actually preparing for Tammy’s death.
In Lori’s 2018 podcast we hear how giddy Lori is about having met Chad. Other witnesses testified Chad had stayed over in Lori’s marital home a couple of times, with others present, when Charles was absent on business.
Their behaviour was so inappropriate that another guest pointedly asked Chad how his wife was.
The other day it came out that Lori used her murdered husband Charles’s Amazon account to shop for matching wedding clothes and malachite wedding rings weeks BEFORE Tammy died. They are wearing these in their Hawaiian wedding photos two weeks after Tammy’s death.
Chad had told Todd Gilbert months previously that he did not expect his wife to reach 50. Previous witnesses said Tammy did several keep fit classes, some of it high intensity. Nobody else ever saw any evidence of physical illness in Tammy before she died.
Now we hear from the Gilberts that Chad was bringing his side piece to visit the neighbours a bare two weeks after he buried his wife of 30 years. BTW, his daughter Emma told Tammy’s sister “he’s married a widow he met in Hawaii”. That is, first met Lori the week AFTER the funeral.
They also told the Gilberts that Lori was widowed in December 2018. Tylee’s father Joseph Ryan who Lori had ling divorced died in April 2018: (her brother Alex previously did time for tazing him). But her fourth husband Charles Vallow was shot dead by Alex in July 2019. Lori had been widowed just three months before marrying Chad.
Tammy had never discussed with anyone that her husband was interested in anyone else. But Charles did at least draft an email to Tammy telling her that his wife and her husband were having an affair. I don’t know if she got it.
That bird sounds like a male cockatiel. He's got some personal knowledge & opinions! 🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜🦜
Chad told this couple that Lori’s daughter died and never mentioned JJ. At the time both kids were missing. She is on trial for their murder/conspiracy to murder them so I’d say it’s kinda relevant.
❤ I’m from California and I watch your reports. Thank you so very much.
Never heard of a corpse falling out of bed before!
I feel blessed to be an Atheist 😂😂😂 yeah I don't believe in killing people. I love all people. I learned being a Christian for 50 years you tend to think you religion is the right one the only one. I see Hate in Christians and that was never me. I believe people are born LGBTQ and support them 100%. Every person is their own individual. I nannied for a Muslim Family the Father was probably 1 of the BEST Dads I ever met. One of the Best Men I ever met and Knew and Loved was Jewish he was my Boss like a Grandfather figure Beautiful Man, Husband, Father, and Boss! I miss him 😢. Justice for JJ, Tylee, Charles, Tammy, Joseph Ryan.
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Thanks Nate!
Really why is the court allowed to play these recording? If they claim this is a religious defense then sorry. She still killed and broke the law of the land and deserves punishment