Family who took in alleged shooter speaks out
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- čas přidán 18. 02. 2018
- James and Kimberly Snead, along with their lawyer Jim Lewis, talk to "GMA" about alleged school shooter Nikolas Cruz, 19, who had been living with them since Thanksgiving after his mom died.
Nobody should have ever blamed this couple. They are kind hearted people who took Nicholas in because of the goodness of their heart.
Can anyone one up that?
They seem put out, detached and controlling. Probably anything but what he needed. But the kid is a psychopath and there isn't anything anyone can do about that. No known cure or treatment. This is why we need the death penalty. If found to be a psychopath a person must be executed. There is no way around it. Because they will never stop killing regardless of where they are. It's the disease. You don't want them procreating another generation of killers. You just don't.
They seem really nice, feel bad for them
“kind hearted” seemingly bc u don’t know them as ppl lol
I’m a beast, 50,000 on my head ? That’s a feast
These two tried their best to help this kid. really sad. i cant even imagine what they are going through.
They are the real problem. They kept guns in the house while he was an unstable maniac
@@blackdonaldtrump3869 they were going to get him counselling days before but nik did what he did
@@blackdonaldtrump3869 so what?
@@blackdonaldtrump3869 what did they do that was illegal exactly? I’ll wait.
@@mikehunt7360 illegal? Nothing but morally wrong and disgusting definitely. THEY KEPT FIRE ARMS AROUND HIM WHILE HE WAS AN UNSTABLE MANIAC. I seriously hope none of you have children.
My friend was shot and killed by his wife over 20 years ago. We hung out every weekend and you think you know someone. But throughout the two years it took to get to trial, the things I learned about them, I questioned whether I knew them at all. People keep secrets, very easily.
Who are you referring to?
And ?
wow! yeah, look at Chris Watts. He portrayed himself as a good father, family man...........
You can never fully know anyone
What are you talking about?
Bless these parents. I was taken in by a family who is not my blood and I have lived my life trying to be like them.
This couple is not part of Nicholas, they were only trying to help this kid.
Unbox Flix should've left the dreamer where they found him.
Unbox Flix please, they are no different than him, imagine what kind of environment lets a person just have this kind of weapon "just because" guarantee they believe in some of the same things as him. I don't buy their act
psionicomniverse Agreed!!! This foster family obviously didn't give a f**k about the multiple knives and guns he had in his room all while mentally ill or the numerous threats he made online about committing a future school shooting and failed to notify the school or students of his behavior!! This family should be held liable for this as well. This government needs to start holding people accountable for their actions.
Unbox Flix by letting him keep his guns locked up 👍🏼😳
Everyone knew this Nikolas guy was a monster. I don't buy it, and these two ought to keep their mouth shut. I'm sure there is a boatload of lawyers counting up all the lawsuits they can bring.
I hope their son doesn't receive any backlash when he returns to school...
ShawnDgenerationx He’s going to jail... or are you talking about their biological son?
Angel Gutierrez obviously their son... Cruz wasn't their son dumbass
So you’re saying that every person that adopts a kid isn’t really their kid?
yami g. U can't adopt a 19 year old... His (the shooter) mother died and a they let a family friend stay with them until.
ShawnDgenerationx I don't see him returning to school anytime soon at all.
I don't understand why they would allow a child into their home with guns. That is an immediate red flag.
Don’t take my guns away
a teenager having guns is still just so insane
Of course they didn't know everything. He was living there for 3 months!!!
Jd I agree with you, but at the same time I do see where people on the other hand are coming from. If you think about it closely, 3 months approximately equals 1/4 of the year of time they had with him. But yeah like a teen can obviously fake for that long
bro come on teen shave ssecrets . hell yeah they can fake for that long . y own mother doesn't even know me that well . he probably acted so innocent in their house
Yeah
Indeed,
They are a good family because he welcome that kid on their home
I feel bad because they’re being sued just because they brought him into their home for 3 months. They didn’t even raise him, but they tried to give him stability with a home after his mother died and now they probably won’t have any money after all the lawsuits
No one with common sense blames you two lovely people. I'm so sorry you've been traumatized by this horrible event. *hugs*
I agree with you but I watched another videos and it seems like they are blaming them for what he did because they let guns in their house. That's so sad that people can't understand how this people feel but I guess people are people
@@Kate-qg6yi so, what exactly did they do wrong?
@@Kate-qg6yi well the fbi and the laws are responsible though for 19 years old for a powerful assault rifle
100% agree. It's easier to be stupid and blame other people.
They aren't lovely people. I think that they are hiding something.
These poor people I can’t imagine how they are feeling..very devastating for everyone
They absolutely knew the kid had massive problems. They themselves called 911 on him. And said: “All he cares about are his guns”.
Katie I knew they were hiding something. They should’ve taken the guns away cause he was crazy
@@suzs3770 I highly doubt that they knew he would do something like this, they weren’t hiding anything, they were shocked you could tell and knew there would be backlash because of it as there always looking to blame someone
@@suzs3770 He was 19 and likely had guns he bought and stashed. All they did was try to take in a young adult in that was lost, he played them blindly.
@@suzs3770 He was 19 and likely had guns he bought and stashed. All they did was try to take in a young adult in that was lost, he played them blindly.
When my kids were in school i allowed a number of their friends come stay with us at different times and i know I would feel absolutely horrible if they had ever done something like this. Please know this isn't their fault, they tried their best for a monster. Bless you both and hope your son is able to mentally deal with this.
Trying your best for a monster is your own fault! You indirectly assist his act, logically speaking! Be more thoughtful and study a person's mind before deciding to enable him/her!
Those girls jumping up and down in the background trying to get noticed really bothers me
QuietWyatt me too
Those girls don’t know what they’re talking about nor’ know whose in the good morning set. Settle down don’t be too bothered
Well if that bothers,go shoot up school y'all are soft and spoils,at least he's going to be spoiled in jail.. but he probably kills him self.some people have no esteem at all.
QuietWyatt really pissed me of
I would be holding a sign that says you are fake news
Those parents look tired and drained. Ugh Jesus.
ROSEMARY COLEMAN Kids these days are a new breed. Lots of parents look stressed and drained.
I feel bad for them. This could easily happen to anyone. Some of these kids don't appreciate a good family. These people work hard & tried to help someone, just to be accused of knowing he was crazy.
If you were in their situation you would look like that too.
ROSEMARY COLEMAN
I can't nor even want to imagine what there
Dealing with? Esp once you see the amount of stupid people here on CZcams comments
DearJRenae shit don't make no sense. These mofos act like they didn't behave themselves in their own home in front of their actual parents only to go out and wild TF out.
I can't even begin to imagine the chaos of emotions these poor people were feeling (and probably still are) - clearly lovely, sensible, responsible and loving people who acted out of the kindness of their hearts by taking Nikolas in. I sincerely hope they're healing and doing well.
His mother died. Who knows what he had been through before he came to this family.
Young men losing their mother = never healthy, many times creates a lot of sadness and anger. Add some available guns to that 😞
Whatever he “went through” will NEVER be justification for sympathy. Taking innocent lives cuz he was ssaaaaaddd is about as asinine of a thought as an observer from afar as humanly possible. Take your own life AS A LAST RESORT, before ever considering taking another soul.
@@JPD13III Agree, when it comes to grown ups. Sad story though, and weapon laws in US doesnt help. You kill more persons in the US with guns than what we kill in the rest of the world in decades ..
Lackerbit Andersson State your source. Most gun deaths are suicide. MOST !!!!!! Unfortunately for them, our constitution affords is our god given rights to bear arms. Simple math and opportunity.
@@JPD13III Of course, with pleasure, here is one chart; en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
It's not for us to judge. I think they were trying to help a troubled soul who lost his mom. They aren't trained professionals, they tried and it is beyond heartbreaking for everyone.
We are allowed to judge! I lost my mum but I didn’t go out n shoot nor did many million others. He should have been referred before this event was able to take place. This is horrendous. We all have to deal with death but not in this way. If u say we shouldn’t judge do u also say we shouldn’t take lives? I just don’t get it.
@@connormcdonald6044 you can’t judge these parents they ain’t saying judging nik but we can’t judge these parents that was trying to help someone they wanted to help him and obviously nik was good at hiding it ya know they thought he was grown so they didn’t feel the need to go threw his stuff bc he’s grown why go threw a grown kids stuff that isn’t physically my child he’s my sons friend is what they was probably thinking it’s sad that they thought he was a good person but we can’t judge them for the things nik did they was trying to help him is all.
I’m not blaming the parents at all
@@connormcdonald6044 right right I don’t think the commenter was saying we can’t judge Cruz I think they was saying we couldn’t judge the parents.
@@connormcdonald6044 They had him for 3 months. What do you think they're responsible for? He was troubled and dangerous for years before they took him in
That poor kid that lived with him is probably gonna end up moving schools, people probably will hate him just for being his friend😔
His brother had to move out of state. It's crazy what your actions can cause others!
You would have to.
If it were me I’d have my name changed and relocated.
He had so many people, strangers, that tried to make him a part of their family and community and he did this anyways. It's depressing.
He's a fked up psychopath, a waste of life, nothing could ever be changed. Wild animals like him are not acknowledged as human beings by me. They lack the empathy and remorse of human civilization.
Probably not sane in some ways
Besides raising our own children,.. we opened our home to several “teen to young adult” children (some were family). We tried to help them all as they were having difficulty at their dysfunctional family units. It’s not this couples fault what Nick ended up doing. You never know what’s going on in one’s mind,..not even in your own Childrens minds sometimes. It’s such a horrific and sad situation all the way around.💔
This is a person who suffers from mental/emotional illness. What happened was absolutely horrific, no one is diminishing that. However, this child needed serious, serious help that went unanswered. Look at him as the person with a challenge that he is. I personally do not for one second believe he knew the consequences for his actions. I see a young man who was so emotionally and mentally tortured he snapped and lashed out. Like the straw that broke the camels back he just for whatever reason could not contain the pain and rage built up inside. Does that excuse his actions absolutely NOT! Does that mean he should not be punished? NO he should however, he STILL needs help serious help!! Why did it take something like this to happen? I have a daughter with Autism they can exhibit major mood swings and act out.Especially boys. When I ask my daughter what is bothering her many times she cannot put into words what is bothering her until we take a lot of time to figure it out. It sounds to me this person did not have that luxury which should not be a luxury at all. It should be considered a necessity to all kids not just the challenged. How sad is it that he thinks he deserves to die? That living somehow is worse than death! Doesn't that speak volumes? Many challenged kids despite what ppl. think can sense when you are going through the motions of being kind. Would you want ppl to do that to you? Pretend to care when in reality you are just doing it out of a sense of obligation or worse to seek recognition for "doing a good deed". What he did is an unspeakable horrific act, tbt if I were the parent of one of the children lost I would want him to suffer the pain he inflicted on my family too. That is, if I didn't know he had a mental challenge. This person is literally like a lamb being led to the slaughter. Look at him!! If you could see beyond the hatred that rightfully anyone would have, You'd see a lost little boy not truly comprehending what is happening. All he knows is he did a very bad thing and from what I can see cannot really cope with the gravity of it. He is facing this alone..... again he is alone in a world that doesn't make sense to him. People are really cruel in his eyes. I pray for everyone because truth is everyone involved in this is a victim. Everyone involved feels dead inside, especially this young man. If only ppl could look beyond the rage and take this tragedy and turn it into a triumph. Let's ensure that Guns can never be placed in the hands of a person who could potentially do something like this! Let's not just medicate & push these kids through a school system for the funds the school can obtain for them. We need to truly come up with a curriculum that can actually help them mentally physically and most impotantly emotionally . With the amount of kids being diagnosed with emotional and cognitive issues this is everyone's problem to roll up the sleeves to try and correct. Lets not tolerate discrimination against ANYONE! That doesnt mean to shame and blame another. Rather be a light in thier life and help them to do what is right. Time and time again we have seen things like this happen and the common denominator seems to be the perpetrator was somehow bullied or tortured and NO ONE came to be beside them. With that being said, I was that bullied, tortured kid yet never once did I think of doing something like this. However, I also grew up in a home ( broken as well) but still united in love and faith. My faith is truly what has carried me through challenges beyond comprehension. My heart truly, truly breaks for every single person involved in this they are ALL victims. I chose to stop feeling like a victim and become victorious on my journey. My heart and prayers go out to each and every parent suffering great loss I know saying I'm sorry really means nothing so I offer a virtual ✋️ to hold for a lifetime why? Most people will move on and yet you will do your best to The truth is like it or not this has forever changed your life. There will be days you will find Joy again embrace those days you deserve them. Do not be ashamed to have them . Your sons ans daughters would not want you to stop living. They would want you to live, live for them, honor thier memory by enjoying life as they would have. I will share this in the hope it brings you peace and hope as that is my only wish by sharing this. I had a near death experience when I was perceived dead I never felt more love, peace and joy than I did during that time. Mere words cannot give it justice. As I watched from above my body, all I wanted was to convey to my loved ones to not cry or suffer because I felt the best I ever had . I came from a very loving family. This love was different though it was so pure abundant ans engulfing such a beautiful feeling. I hope and pray this brings a little peace to your day. I will be praying for all of you not just in this moment but for the rest of my days because that is what I would want ppl to do for me. I know the hardest thing for you to do is to forgive but in order for you to truly live again you will need to forgive. Also, please don't harbor guilt about what you did or did not say your loved ones are still with you they simply just changed their address. They still know your heart beats for them. God Bless all of you. I pray this post helps the. Families and the peep. To turn this around and make this senseless act be the light of change so that we can stop repeating the pain that comes from feelings of neglect,bullying, discrimination and hate.
They seem like great people, it’s horrible that they cared for him and tried their best to help him but he decided to kill 17 innocent people and injure many others.
seyong // he might have been bullied
They don’t seem like great people “no , he’s not my son”, great answer.
seyong // Those caring parents bought Nicholas a gun safe ! What more could they do for him ??
Paul Brasfield They may not have been model guardians, but they don't deserve to be blamed for what Cruz did. You try to help out a teen for a few months and you're held partially responsible for his crime?
seyong // ALL FAKE
Speaking like if he was 12 years old, he was freakin’ 19!!!
He was not at all there mentally. People can look certain age but think and act a different one. Not to get personal here, but analyze your own family.
I know I'm 2 years late but mentally he is 12 - 13. You can spot that on the letters he writes sometimes there's child like drawings and spelling
@Paul Coover a 5 year old can load a gun
@Paul Coover just pointing out how your comment is idiotic
@Paul Coover what point you trying to make? That you're an idiot? Because you've displayed that very well
My heart goes out to them and the families who suffered because of his actions. I understand they are feeling betrayed and I don't blame them for their course of actions so prayers for everyone who is pained by what he had done.
They were kind loving people……who opened their home to this kid who was orphaned….and he certainly put on a show for these people…..they had no idea who he truly was! They wanted to get him the help that he needed….I find zero fault in them! None whatsoever! They did no harm to anyone! I personally feel bad for them and their son!!
@Boston Gal An orphan is someone whom both of their parents have died. You don't have to be under 18 to be labelled as such.
@@Becksnnc both his parents did die
@@spartansxoxo8088 I know.
@@Becksnnc the definition of an orphan is literally a parent-less child. In transition of getting new legal guardians to raise them. I know, I was an orphan until I got adopted. Technically you are self autonomous at 18 so you wouldn't be an orphan
He was NOT orphaned. You are not an orphan after you turn 18.
My heart breaks for everyone involved in this attack including this family because they had no idea about his mental state and his violence. I'm just praying for this whole situation.
🙏🙏🙏
Then why did they let him have a gun? 🤔
You don't need qualifications to know a persons mental state. Although this couple had good intentions they weren't fully aware of him cracking from losing his mother
So...a child who was abandoned by his birth parents then his adoptive parents abandoned him (they both died), he's expelled from school, he has obvious anger issues and still you thought it was cool for him to own multiple guns??? I can't...
Louise Austin they died. Psychologically he's been abandoned again. Even though in reality it wasn't intentional, the way his unconscious mind will absorb it is as another abandonment.
Right! While on psychotropic drugs for "bi-polar." Yeah, real good idea "parents"!
This couple did I kind thing. But often you can't predict how things like this can happen. They are lucky to be alive.
These good people are saying the Cruz was well behaved, followed their rules and seemed normal. Goes to show that he could control his behavior when it suited him. They should have been called by the prosecution to help quash the mitigating factors against the dp
How do you not notice your child has over 10 guns in their room and knives
Oyin Ireland shut up!
Leave these folks alone the kid fucked up they didn’t do it, people r so ignorant u included!
Oyin Ireland Nikolas either had them hidden or he may have purchased them on February 10, 2018 the Saturday before the massacre.
He lived with them for 3 months wasn’t their “child”
People are good hiders, like how people hide drugs..
So sad. This family was so kind and caring with no clue. May God bless them along with all those families who lost their loved ones in this horrific massacre. 🙏🙏
"I thought I was the only one with the key" wtf???
cause he probably made a copy without them knowing
They deep down knew something wasn't right but ignored it.
How did they not have a problem about him having a gun
Agree, Sareeka K. But this is America. I am not an American and no one would be allowed a gun in my house. America is synonymous with violence. The nation has no future; as all empires have an expiry date and America's expiry date is neigh. The states with moral judgement will have to vacate that derelict nation and leave the rotter states to destroy themselves.
Sareeka Katkuri cause it's legal! Many people have guns used for hunting. I mean there are tons of people who use guns and don't commit mass shootings
Sareeka Katkuri in florida everybody has a gun, it is sadly kind of normal, easy access to guns is the primary reason that the republican party is still relevant and donald trump won the elections, so yes it is stupid for them to allow a depressed 18-19 year old to have a gun, but is much easier to criticize now after what happened
Its America.
second amendment rights
Everyone seems to be Sherlock Holmes here lmao.
hindsight 20/20
No competent mind blames you two. You guys did everything you could to try and help this troubled young man. Your great people and bless your hearts
When he said” oh well he’s #not my son” I felt that
I get the impression they never had any feelings for him
Who was his psychiatrist? When was his last appointment?
And more importantly, did his psych prescribe any drugs? Hmmmmmmmm?
I don't think he had one to begin with...therapists are life saving people.... He needed one. Maybe this could have been prevented if he had one, and medication. Fuck.
Ric Bon good question
Kenneth Royer shut your mouth
Kenneth Royer lol no
These poor people. The amount of tragedy stemming from this event is immeasurable.
No one bothered to get that kid SERIOUS help after the death of his adopted mother? He was clearly troubled.
heartfelt for all involved. so many of our children need counseling, and urgent help in these times.
who takes in someone with a bunch of guns out of nowhere?...
Jhon Mota because back in the 1930s to 60s you used to be 7 years old and walk in your school with single barrel shotgun
Criminals get guns illegally too you purchase guns without a serial number on it now one question an I ask you there has been 18 school shooting this year alone is is this one so significant why not the others on television
Exactly
How you gonna let someone move into your home with an arsenal of guns!?!?!?!?! They are talking about these guns like they are toys "He couldn't have them out if we weren't home". Why should a 19 year old own an AR-15!?!?!?!?!
Eileen Vincett it's Florida, it's not surprising.
Eileen Vincett, 🎯Exactly
He bought the AR-15 from a corner store for $19 with no background check or permit.
He was set to inherit $800,000
You answerd your own question. He's 19 years old. Hes an adult. Dont agree with what he did . but hes an adult thats why he can own a gun
Most people understand how kind two people have to be to let their sons friend live with them. My parents are amazing and I highly doubt they would let one of my friends just come live with us and take care of them like their own even if they wanted to. It’s not an easy decision as a parent to do something like that, having your own kid is already hard and challenging enough and to take in someone whose not your own and clothe them, feed them, put up any expenses they may require is such a kind act. Do not blame these two for what happened. NC did this on his own and is solely his fault, he must fully take responsibility by himself and we can’t allow others to cast his blame upon others and ruin more people lives for his actions. I hope these two and their son find peace in their life one day.
Mental health is so important. So sad for everyone involved!
Mental health and guns don't mix, the gun laws need to change, some sort of phychometric testing before a licence to purchase a firearm is issued, these mass shooting incidents are increasing and when one looks at the offenders they all have some sort of mental issue.
@@gordonosborn3251 Huh? They just changed a lot of them, didn't they? After Uvalde. Oh, so, what you're saying is, the NRA was right. Give the left wing, communist, anti-American, antisemitic, God hating, baby killing, RACIST DEMONcrats an inch and they'll take a mile. KEEP YOUR GUN CONTROL LAWS, they don't work! Only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
@@gordonosborn3251 bruh of course they’re all psycho, this stretched beyond mental health, his obsession to do harm ran deep, like he was born that way. Hate saying people like this have mental health issues, just makes the good people who are suffering with depression look like lunatics, we stigmatize improperly I think, these people are something else and I just don’t like them associated with people who need and deserve proper mental health care. Ima just say we need help for psychos lmao get them outta here, keep them far away from guns and people, put em all on an island to act like cavemen
@@gordonosborn3251 changing the gun laws would do very little to mitigate the problem...shootings are just used as a way to manipulate people into supporting the enforcement of leftist ideologies... don't listen to politicians my friend...make schools safer if you wanna really do something about this(which you can't because this is an issue that you can't just completely stop) but if you wanna have the most effective outcome that would be the route to go.
This seem like great people. I’m glad your son is okay.
I don’t put any blame on these parents. They have huge caring hearts to have taken him in and try and make his life better after he became an orphan. They were blindsided and uninformed over the couple of months this kid was there abiding by their house rules...or so they thought. In a short time they provided him with shelter, care, love, therapy, found him a job, etc. Shame on the professionals and other people that knew this kid was severely troubled...who didn’t clue them in as to what was really going on.
Cat Blue So, it’s the fault of the people outside the home? They were blindly by their benevolence, so the responsibility is someone else’s?
gary cole It’s nobody’s fault except the kid who did the killing. Seems the FBI had more info than the parents did over the couple of months he was living there...yet nothing was done about it.
I helped one of my son's friends like this when he needed a place to stay, but I would not have allowed him to bring an AR-15. Fortunately he was not a gun owner. I feel sorry for these people and their son. They were trying to help and now their lives will be forever changed.
Roland Lytle I Have friends that would have taken him in out of kindness, especially since he had just lost his last parent. The guns probably not, unless they were in a safe only the dad knew the combo to. Even still, this kid is obviously very sick and probably would have found a way to do the damage he set out to do. So sorry for all involved!!!
Cat Blue I feel like what your saying is double standards, so the “professionals” who barely know him are to blame but not the people he was living with?
I am watching this video because the shooter is getting sentenced. But, although this people are not at fault and tried to help Nicolas Cruz, I take away a couple of things from this situation. It is not a good idea to allow a young person who you don’t know that well, around guns. And, I don’t care who it is, your kid or your kid’s friends, you should be aware of their social media postings, or at least try to be on top of that.
That's a REAL PROBLEM
I agree with you now if they'd known the mother so well how did they not know how troubled he was, they are not to blame but they are naieve right from the get go. No adult should support a teen to have guns in America too many troubled in American society.
Precisely! Why do kids have guns in the first place? He just lost his adoptive mother and his life was upended. Giving him a gun was completely irresponsible and they didn’t even contain it. I wish they had been prosecuted
I am also here bc of the sentencing. I have 4 kids--21, 20, 18 and 17. I guarantee you that you will never know what your kids are doing online. Even if you think you do, they are still steps ahead of us. Teens have secrets. Always did. Always will. Now the issue is that they can get in far more trouble than we did "back in the day". Never assume that they tell you everything.
@@skontheroad I’m glad you’ve said this… ALL of the comments saying ‘parents should know what accounts their kids have on social media’ is ridiculous, you can easily jump from one account to the other with ease, how is anyone supposed to ‘know’? 🤣
In Europe we would not have guns at home......why do kids have guns, even in a safe???? I will never understand the gun policies in the US
"He followed all of our rules"
"He said he DIDN'T go to school on Valentine's Day"
They know more then they're saying.
He was a grown up, I think it is very OK to respect a decision like that, I think they thought he wanted to be on his own on Velantine's day bc of his mother's death
Wasn't he 19???? Old enough to be out of school???
Stop blaming these good people
yehuda rab Nobody is
yehuda rab their book is coming out soon.
They probably abused him one way or another. They got secrets to hide. The dad looks like an abusive hard ass and the mother had very defensive answers. And why would you have your lawyer present to give interviews unless you were trying to protect yourself from incriminating responses. All looks very suspicious.
Yah, because southwhatever here is a mind reader. Who wanna bet he's peddling the victim-actors conspiracy on another account?
The male host screwed up; he says he insisted on a gun safe but was careless with the keys. So, there's PLENTY of blame right there. Listen to the video; the clown ADMITS "...I thought [sic] I had the only [sic] key..." Well, he thought wrong and he didn't.
How guilty did she look tho
Who really is the real monster in this situation... the confused disturbed kid or the irresponsible parents that let their kid have possession multiple dangerous weapons?
For people who don't have common sense "alleged" shooter has to be put up there because it's an ongoing case and investigation.
Not when you are caught on camera during the commission of the crime.
David Brown . All of the other kids were on camera as well, as obvious as it may be to many that he isn't innocent. It is still an ongoing investigation.
@Yogurt
That's dumber than hell and everybody with eyes can see it. The "other kids" were not carrying a rifle and trying to escape like a typical coward punk. Just STOP IT with the apologia for evil in this country, Democrat-communists SJW's!
David Brown I seriously can't even begin to comprehend what you were trying to communicate with the last part of that sentence.
Not buying they couldn’t tell that kid was off. With the guns and bulletproof vest. Notice to all parents helping kids out: if you have a kid hoarding guns in your house, you’re also responsible.
I could understand it. He was probably just putting on a impressionable act for them so he can stay with them by acting "normal", easily making them think that he was just a regular kid. You know how some people like to put on a impression to get people to believe they are what they want them to believe, hiding their true nature. He probably knew if he had shown his real side, he would have been kicked out in no time. So I empathize with them. Kid is def two faced for sure.
An interest in guns is not enough of an indication. Plenty of harmless people have such an interest. They were simply unable to see that it was an obsession. Do not tell me you kept no secrets from your parents?
White Identity Nice sarcasm. I'm good.
White Identity I don't watch anime, and I'm a lady.
White Identity Figured you'd reply with something on the lines of that 👌🏻
“I went after him I really just wanted to strangle him” wtf?! What kind of reaction is that
His brother knew how nick was he told no one, other students sent letters to the FBI about how much of a freak this guy was.
"I thought I had the only key to the gun safe". ???
"To our knowledge" lol
Gus Give them a break you piece of shit the family was just trying to help that teen out they thought he was a good kid but well he wasn’t after all
Rogelio Alv. Well, when you buy a gun safe you get the keys and KNOW you have have the only key. They knew he had a key to it or else they dident buy it. You cant go out and get a key for a gun safe. You need the original key to make a copy. So ether they lost the key and he found it then copyed it, or they had two keys one for themself and one for him. Only possibility.
But I do agree they seem to only want to help him. And was maybe to careless of a mentaly ill kid who had lost his parents and had a record of getting in to trouble. I think its the state and the system that dont help this kind of kids properly. (throw them in to foster care and forget about his past)
D lying bastard 🤥
you do realize how easy it is to get replicas of a key correct .
God Bless this family, they were trying to help this lost kid. Trying to do the right thing. Now they are going through all this. Must be devastated
I’m still stuck on the fact that both parents said he knew the rules in the home about his guns. The father (yes I know it’s not his actual father) says he thought he was the only one who had the key to the safe. Yet both the mom and dad said to our knowledge he never had the gun out when we weren’t there. How would he have access to it if Only dad had the key to the gun safe?
Gun Safes are shipped standard from the factory with 2 keys, every gun safe owner knows that , you keep one on your keychain and you hide the second. So if this was a used safe then only 1 might be included. The Host obviously doesn’t own guns or a gun safe he should have asked new or used safe? And where did you keep the key.? NO matter NO one can hindsight this great couple as their son could have been murdered as well! Not intentionally but caught in crossfire or stray bullet. It’s that old saying “ just when you think you know someone, you really don’t “ I feel terrible for them.
This is such a stupid comment. I'm sorry but how do u misinterpret that? The Parents thought they had the only key to the safe and to their knowledge he never had the gun out when they weren't there BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD THE ONLY KEY. Obviously nic had a key too. That's how he was able to pull off the shooting. Makes absolutely perfect sense
I see your point but how did the gun safe appear? Someone bought it so did it come with only one key? Then how did a second key get in nic’s hand or nic was able to get the or found the sole single key ? In which case, at least in Canada the father is chargeable under our firearms act failure to secure. Either way nic got into the safe. Oh and in Canada we require double locks the safe or locked box and trigger lock. The theory is that in an act of rage having to use two different types of keys to open safe and trigger lock will slow you down so you might think twice or calm down.
Maybe this kid ordered a second key online.....my 22yo son recently passed away and he had a safe. On the lock was a #, Amazon had a key. Ijs, it was that simple.
But why do Americans accept guns in a house I would never want a gun in my home guns kill especially in the hands of crazy people & you never know what is going on in someone ‘s mind this beyond my understanding how earth do you feel safe with a gun in a house because if you look at statistics those guns are always the weapons that kill families no thank you never have fire weapons in your home not in Australia only criminals or people that have a license & even then they are not kept at home the are kept in safely locks in special places farmers are allowed to have a license to carry a rifle but even those rifles are used to kill people just other day some farmers had a dispute & one was shot . I don’t understand that culture I feel sorry for these people they tried their best but this kid was far gone in his mind beyond help guns shouldn’t be sold so easily .
He followed every rule to the T. But he doesn't go to school on Valentine's Day. Plus it ok to own all those guns. Pretty easy to follow rules when you dont have rules.
understandable not going to school on VT day..... he was an introvert due to home life. Sad.
Liam Liam 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Rule #1 would have been to stay where you are at with all those guns
In FL they don’t think having “a stockpile of guns”is a problem.
@@shadrach6299 it's not a prob. It's idiot people are the problem.
@@shadrach6299 because it's not
They're still calling it "ALLEGED"??
Un-Freaking-Believable.
GRIMLOCK07 Everyone is entitled to a fair trial and the State holds the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt before someone can be actually held accountable for their crimes = sentencing. Until then he can only be addressed as "alleged".
Cruz admitted to the Police he did it. And he had the intent of committing multiple Premediated Murder(s).
There is nothing ALLEGED about it -Blacklight-.
GRIMLOCK07 I know that but everyone has to go by the same court procedure. Even though he admitted to police he did it the court has to rule that he did it. A huge media outlet like ABC can get in trouble for saying hes guilty without the court saying hes guilty even if the defendant admitted his crimes to police. At the end of the day he still plead not Guilty though, I suppose for the fighting chance to live the rest of his life out in a mental health facility instead of state prison.
GRIMLOCK07 he hasn't actually been proven guilty in court YET but believe you me, I'm just as disgusted
GRIMLOCK07 bruh it's just a formality until he goes thru trial
praying that this good kind couple do not change and stay kind
The Snead family took in Nikolas because his adoptive father was dead for several years & his adoptive mother had just died around the end of November of the previous year. The Snead family has a biological son. It's scary to think that they didn't know anything about Nikolas's issues & social media accounts. They were all possibly in danger & just didn't know it. They feel badly that they didn't see signs but Nikolas was clever enough to hide what he was contemplating. I hope that this family can move on eventually & that their son doesn't get any backlash from Nikolas having lived in their home. I am thinking that the son would be O.K. but they all need counseling to heal & deal with this grief. I wish them the best.
They have the nerve to call monster their adopted son when the truth they are more monster because of the kind of parenting they have.
God bless this couple/family 😔 they were trying to help him and I hate that people are attacking THEM when they only took him in trying to help 💔😔 God bless anyone who was affected by this tragedy & all who lost their lives
They probably thought that the patents r part of it. Sometimes we do stuff and it turns up as failure. Ppl think they where part of this shooting. I would never have part of my son or daughter if they killed someone.
This is such a depressing story, he was doing so well and getting his life together. He could've been a good person. My condolences to the family and the families of the victims of this heartbreaking shooting
Are you kidding? He was a racist sexist hateful trump supporter. He put a MAGA hat on the grave of his leftist mother. Not to mention he brutally murdered children
what the hell are u talking about obviously he wasn’t getting his life together
Don’t believe this manipulative kid or you become an enabler to people like this!
That is a codependent overly optimistic and empathetic attitude towards someone like this. No he could never be normal. This is so far back in the roots of his personality it's as guaranteed as the fact that he's a red headed freckled man. It's within his personality genetic wiring. And no amount of therapy, friends, family, cops, foster homes, cps interventions will change who he is. He's a manipulative controlling, "narcissistic" personality, and that in itself guarantees that you are giving him too much credit. This kid, Brian Laundry, so many many publicly covered instances of people like this. It's how they were raised in early early childhood and that can't be changed or reversed. It's as much a disorder/disease as cancer, except medications and therapy typically does nothing except exaggerate low lows and higher highs and instability within them.
@@bumpsandbliss She doesn’t understand sociopaths. They never “get their lives together.” They are inherently evil.
As someone with very troubled adopted children in my household, the actions of the parental figures really has little guaranteed impact on their outcome unfortunately :(
Hey, he bought the safe, how many keys came with it. This is rediculous
He claims he "thought" he had the only key to gun safe but according to him, at 5:30 he says he was there when the gun safe was purchased and at 6:16 his wife states that one of the rules that he "followed" was that he wasn't permitted to take the guns out when they weren't home. Now, maybe I'm reading into this too closely, but if you have the "only key", or at least THOUGHT that you did, then why is this rule necessary to begin with? Something is off here. I think they know a little more than they are letting on. I believe they were at the very least extremely careless. They knew they had a mentally unstable person living under their roof (took him to counseling just days prior) and they also knew he had an arsenal under that same roof. And based on their own words, I believe they knew he had unfettered access to that safe. Again, why in the hell would it be necessary to forbid him to have the weapons out when they were not home if he did not have access to them anyway? I wish the camera had cut to their attorney when she opened her mouth about that tid bit. Talk about a head-in-hands moment.
warhorsing
They were just trying to help him, yeah they probably knew he wasn't right but they were trying to show him love. They were trying to take in a kid who probably nobody wanted and give him a family.
I agree, just saying your right on point !
Warhorsin - I'm saying your right on point , therefore I agree with your comment.
That bit got my attention too, but if looking for an innocent explanation, I thought maybe the parents didn't always take the gunsafe key with them when they went out. If they have 2 cars & 2 sets of keys, then likely the gun safe key was on the Dad's keychain. If they went out together in the Mum's car, presumably they would have taken her keys & left his keys at home in their keyholder, where he could have accessed it, but they assumed since he was so well behaved in their presence that he wouldn't do so
They are just trying to avoid the (massive) law suits that they know are coming....
So a stranger who was kicked out of school comes to their house with a small arsenal and they say ok bring 'em in. WTF???
+Exoress Delivers Only in America...is it normal for a teenager to own an assault rifle
AG E-Ben Actually no, it's illegal for someone under the age of 21 to get a license to carry. Without an LTC, you can't own firearms.
AG E-Ben an ar15 is not an assault rifle, an assault rifle is a military grade weapon, the ar15 is civilian. Goes to show that you liberals know nothing about guns
He was a friend of their son they probably never thought that this was gonna happen
UndeadxNed congrats you’ve won and actually have a brain 🙏 🥇
It is just ridiculous to know that he had a rifle and his adoptive parents never knew that he had a rifle for killing people
These people are only guilty of kind hearts, and taking a young man in that had lost his parents. I can not imagine how these people must feel, but they damn sure haven't done anything or anyone wrong. God Bless them. I hope this doesn't stop them from opening up their heart again to someone in need, they have a lot of love to offer.
These parents tried to help someone.But I would never allow some kid, I really didn't know,. Bring his guns into my home. He could of killed all of them while they slept even.Think about it!
I think they will not be doing this again hopefully they will not do it unless they know the person well they should of ran background check on Cruz
I'm so sorry these people have to deal with this. They are good people who should be supported through this, they are also victims.
i feel bad for this family who even have the courtesy to take him at their home and now feeling betrayed
Our family had a horrible experience fostering a child. That "foster child"? Left nothing but a wake of despair and destruction in our home. Terrorized. Is not an understatement.
We'll never accept another foster child in our home for as long as we both live and breathe!
I feel so much empathy for this couple. This isn't your fault!
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Instead of putting so much emphasis on your "horrible experience" with a foster child, can you instead tell us what you did in an effort to help the child? Foster children often come from difficult or disadvantaged backgrounds and perhaps you were just not good enough to care for such a child.
@@Riana.dS. I've heard one to many stories of foster kids being abused by the foster parents
@@Riana.dS.
People have alot to say about the lives they've never led.
You have no fkn idea how stupid you sound right now? If I was willing or judgmental like your pathetic ass? The whole scenario we went through positive and nor? You'd look like a complete ass right now. Hands down. Think you know? You don't have a fkn clue lady. Or you'd have not typed a thing...because you would have been slaughtered in this comment section for making such a narrow minded opinion on a situation you have no information on
Kiss my ass!!
@@Riana.dS. wow, you online terrorists surely have a way to convict and sentence people without any proof and evident, but your self claimed psychic power, dont ya? Yo disgusting hypocrite!
He was NOT their foster child.
God bless the family that took in Nikolas Cruz. They were trying to do a GOOD thing by helping him out when his Stepmom died. My heart breaks for this family and for all the families that lost loved ones. I hope the public understands that the family was trying to help a kid who was alone when his stepmom passed.
I’m wondering where his birth parents are. Was he adopted?
@@moongoddess8568 his bio mom is a drug addict criminal who gave him up when he was a baby. No mention of his father. His adoptive parents who raised him both died, then these people tried to help him.
@@becw5501 oh man. Another troubled person. It’s sad. But, he knew exactly what he was doing. Thanks for the info.
@1:20, These two are talking about driving Nick to school, but he was expelled. He was a former student, but they are talking like he still goes to that School and it's the same School Their Son Goes to. No mention of Nicks Younger Brother who lived with them either. That's really weird.
Bruh if you listened they said they enrolled him ina new school also yes I’m this is 2 years later
They didn't have a clue........but now they want control over his inheritance......This stinks!!!!!
They deserve it, he can't use it. Whatever it is. Look what he did to them. Why do care, what's it to you, u feel sorry for that demonic freak
What about the victims dawg? Funeral costs for starters, then divvy up the rest! They probably got paid to do this.
Everybody else knew he was one messed up a-&ole. Students, the dollar tree where he worked, people getting getting coffee at the Marathon station, his half brother and well, just about everybody. But they didn’t know? Hummm…
“He’s not my son” I’m not Defending what he did but those words gotta hurt
Ouch!
I am sorry 😢 for these parents too.
They both look like they've been crying and losing a lot a sleep. Sad, just sad.
Everyone that knew the kid knew he was off. He gave out a creepy vibe to everyone. How did these people not see that?
Every school has odd kids, but you cant just state that every non-normal kid is going to become a mass murder
lalasam12345 I didn't state that. You did. This kid was in trouble a lot. The police knew him. He wrote about shooting up the school online with his name on it. His neighbors were freaked out by him. He had everything but a flashing light on his head.
And they don't allow them to have guns.. something's fishy.. like always
In no way am I blaming these people I just need to understand where normalcy lies that a high school aged child would need a gun safe and guns? That to me would have been questionable, I would not have allowed that part of his belongings to move into my home.
So sad...the whole situation. They probably will never take anyone in again
Is it true the wife here has now filed for access to $800,000 in a trust account that belongs to Nikolas Cruz and has had his younger brother locked up in a mental hospital? This all sounds shady, if true.
What????????
"Its ok hunny, you can have a mass arsenal of weapons in our house. Your 19 and that's ok"
The fact that they didn`t mind that he had weapons! Wow, that sounds crazy to a European person!!
God have mercy on all who were touched by what happened.
Unimaginable heart ache and pain. Their trust was betrayed. Their lives along with their son's life can never ever be the same. We hurt for them too.
STAR VOYAGER No, they couldn't be that naive. With all those guns...the killing and torturing of small innocent animals...before he shot 17 children...No. that would be against each one of those children's spirits and souls,
Wildflower Honeybee yes they could. I know that you're perfect but others aren't.
I also think a lot of these people aren't familiar with guns. I noticed that a lot of people seem to think the guns themselves have magical properties, where bullets can be perfectly aimed at legs and arms to disable instead of center mass to kill, and where they never ping around or go through walls. They have other properties that make them dangerous, of course, in the wrong hands, but they are not in and of themselves inherently evil, even if they are used for that purpose by others. The mere presence of a gun was not enough in and of itself to flip out and throw some guest out of your house. That's what he was, a guest. Perhaps he would be a stable renter in the future, had things not turned out as he made them.
STAR VOYAGER they knew him for three months
Wait so was he in school or was he working ? And what type of an excuse is ‘I don’t go to school on Valentine’s ‘ ???
He told them that he doesn’t go to school on Valentine’s Day so their for he didn’t go to school and the mother asked him if he was going to work and he said ”I got the day off” a lot of people use that excused actually I use it every year since I can remember.
Daniela Rodriguez I would like to be your Valentine, beautiful lady.
55Media Yeah, I never thought of that excuse but I would have been booted out the door to school.
When i used to goto highschool i never went to school on my birthday
Both Eyes Wide Open She stated she told Cruz as they were walking that she was surprised it wasn't him. Gun shots were across the way. But the interviewer insisted it was Cruz. So who's lying?
How much is Cruz expected to inherit from his parents death. I bet the guardians are in line for it. Maybe that's why they look suspicious. Yep. Caught with your hand in the cookie jar. How much money will poor into that community & line the pockets of the local politicians? Is that why the deputies outside the school didn't go in. Money meant for the victims & their families, money that they will never see. A very sad & twisted situation.
I can’t believe what I’m hearing…5:21 you were aware he had a gun when he moved into your home and you say I thought I had the only key to the gun safe. Why would you allow anyone especially a minor to bring a gun into your home.
Exactly!
Ummm...I grew up in TX and now live in ID and have family in MS and AL. We all have guns. If we died my son would inherit our guns and would probably keep them. We are hunters and also like a gun for defense if someone breaks in our home. If I didn't know the kid, maybe not, but all my kids' friends would not be a red flag. Until now.
@@andrealmoseley6575 kid had emotional disturbance issues. At the beginning, or somewhere in the video, host asked “what can you tell us about him?” “Nothing that we can say publicly.” They knew he had issues, knew ABOUT HIS ABUSE TOWARDS his adoptive mother, and let him in anyway. They both (half brother and killer) had his adoptive mother’s estate entailed to both. THATS what they wanted.
He was not a minor. He was 19 when he committed the crime, and he had been with them for 3 months. He was at least 18, probably 19, when he moved in.
@@marysueeasteregg you’d let any person of whatever age move in with you and your family, regardless of the mental issues you KNEW he had? Age isn’t the point here.
These people did not monitor this child...he was their responsibility....
How did the school knew that he was living with them if there is no record at school linking Nikolas to them. He hadn't been a student since last year and only living with them for a few months.
Their son was still a student there so the school maybe got it from him
Roxanna Fuentes he knew people there that whole school knew him and they knew where he was because they knew a lot about where he was
I just watched another video of a call made to the police back a few months ago from the lady who took him in saying that there was a fight apparently between her son and the nick and that she was going to take the guns away...so why are they sitting here lying and saying that they never saw it coming and that he was respectful...? This doesn’t add up, someone is lying
Where's the link?
The news host is incredibly respectful with the questions presented and the way he conducted himself, this man is a real professional.
And he’s a hall of fame football player so this is his second career.
I’m confused the father says he has the only key to the safe then the mother later says he follows the rules he knows he’s not supposed to have the guns out when they aren’t home. SO how would he have them out if he didn’t have a key???
Something doesn't add up, they claim they had no idea about his separate Instagram account and that their son had no idea either, yet in ABC News other video w/ the girl who knew him she claims her and ALL of her friends were afraid bc he would post photos of all his guns,knives, etc on his Instagram account. How did the families son not know about these post, but all these other kids at the school did? That's a flat out lie from this family.
Brett O: when my daughter was a student & living at home I was "friended" to the FB account that I was aware of. I don't know if she had any other accounts. I question why the people who viewed the threatening media didn't tell anyone about it.
Marimilitarybrat - I completely believe that the parents didn't know of some separate account, but to say their "son", Cruz's best friend didn't "know" about some supposed 2nd account, yet ALLLL these other kids at school, many of which weren't even friends with Cruz knew about his "separate account" is a complete and total LIE.
They knew they just wanted the crazy kids inheritance money. They knew what he was doing they just wanted the money more.
who knows what was going on, but kids/teens can be clicky & bitchy. If this kid's an outsider & hated by one group & the son's his friend, presumably he is also hated & doesn't speak to that group
Could the parents be the handler for him to commit this heinous crime. Giving him all the guns he needed. Which parents does that to a teen-ager. It's only my observation.
how does a 18 year old who works at the dollar store afford all these guns?
Supposedly his mother left him 400,000 life insurance policy. But then....why would he be working at a Dollar Store?
Betsy Bleigh Nikolas was 19 in February 2018
Um you get paid $15 an hour at even a dollar store. Minimum wage if you save your money....
@@tulanzuya that was way before that.
he earned a lil less than 300 a week at dollar tree
So they think it’s ok for children to have weapons that’s so stupid they should be charged with some type of negligence or child endangerment for those that died what a creepy ass family !
Don’t trust anyone and don’t open your home to anyone. Please be careful