Onefinity Journeyman CNC: 3 Month Review
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This is my experience with the Onefinity Journeyman X-50 CNC so far.
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I was like you about dust, until I ended up in hospital with pneumonia, and unable to breathe. It’s a hard lesson, take it from me as a victim of dust, you capital letters need 2 micron dust collection. It’s not expensive, but it will save your life. End of rant. Sorry but true.
Were you carving mostly wood?
Thank you for putting this review together. I perceived you as genuinely honest, no skin in the game, and without arrogance - such a breath of fresh air. I never have time for CZcams or long videos, but I'll make time to check out your other content. I definitely appreciate you. Be well!
we live in different worlds :) I'm a tinker, build my own machine from plans/loose ideas, indymill, converted part of it to a Cindymill hybrid, so now its a freak build, i did it all, made the plates, tapped all holes, did the electronics and so on ... and that's ok, now I'm ready to do as you do and get producing, and here my personality works against me, so good to see videos like yours just getting it done, deal with the fail, get up and get going again, i admire that alot
-kenneth
Really great helpful video. I've have this machine in my shopping cart for a while now and hesitant to make the jump while I've been researching more info on it. You addressed a LOT of the concern and questions I had, and even some I didn't think of. Appreciate you being so thorough!
I really appreciate you taking the time to comment, happy to help!
Another great video Hamilton! Thanks for all your hard work. I am enjoying watching your journey with your journeyman. I got mine a little bit ago and will happily follow along as you grow and explore all its capabilities. Cheers.
Thanks so much!
👍Glad to hear about the community support for even the most basic questions when starting out. Excellent to-the-point presentation!!
Can't believe it's been 3 months since you popped up your initial setup video 🙂 Been fun watching you learn by doing, a lot! Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much!
I was leaning towards the Onefinity Journeyman and after watching this video and hearing you cover just about all the questions I had, sharing your start up experiences as well as your critical comments, I'm sold on this machine, now I'll need to find a program that I can figure out and get comfortable with. The thought of a cnc machine as a side business has been on my mind for over a year now and it may be about time to take the plunge. Thanks for the awesome video.
Thanks for taking the time to make such an awesome video. Very helpful!
Thanks for all the info. I enjoy your videos. As a new owner of a 1F Journeyman, and someone still getting their feet wet with CNC, I’d say your review was very fair and accurate.
Thanks I really appreciate it!
Thanks a ton for this video. You definetly helped push me towards this product :P
You make learning interesting and fun. I enjoy the videos so much i watch for entertainment sometimes
Excellent video, Hamilton. It helped me waaay more than a “little bit!” I hope to be there in another year but that gives me time to work on the software. Thanks again.
Thanks for watching, glad it helped!
very helpful review. I am Working up to purchasing my first tabletop CNC anf this helped a lot!
I just want to say - the last 3-4 minutes blew my mind. That is blunt, salt of the earth advice that EVERYONE should follow when looking into any new venture.
Ive had mine since they came out and I agree Completely with Everything you said.
Had mine for 2 years, was new to CNC when I got it. Run Vcarve Pro 11.5. I love both, make a lot of money after retirement that comes easy. it's all set up, but it will go as far as your imagination will take you. Never had any problems since the day I set it up in like 2 hours.
Awesome upload , my intention is to buy one but I’ve so much to learn , thank you so much for sharing your knowledge
Thanks for this video, it's answered a lot of my questions about the Onefinity. We were planning on getting a Millright CNC, but I think we're set on the Onefinity, now. I've been working on a closet out in our garage for the past couple of months soundproofing it in preparation for the CNC. I don't know how much research you've done into soundproofing but my advice with regard to your loft: Greatstuff foam every void, tape over every seam and nail hole in your air barrier, add a layer of mass loaded vinyl (or, if you're in or near Canada, Sonapan board), two layers of gypsym board with green glue between the layers. If you wanted to take it even further you could hang the drywall on resilient channels. There's also a sound deadening paint called Acousti Coat you can use. Before I insulated my studs (with rockwool) and after filling gaps I coated all the studs and backside of sheathing in the stud bays with 2 coats of liquid rubber. I also used clay packs on the outlet boxes.
I'm about to put up my first layer of drywall next week. After everything is painted I plan to build some parametric skyline diffusers and mount them in certain areas of the room, build corner bass traps.
Don't forget about your door, it will need to be soundproofed, too.
Good luck!
Thanks for watching and for all the great info!!
Thanks for the in-depth review! For the last few months I have really been looking into a CNC machine as a way to revamp my business. I was heavily considering the Shapeoke Pro XXL, but after some additional research (ex. belt drive vs ball screw drive, etc.) coupled with your review, I'm sold on the OneFinity. Like you, I will have zero prior experience with CNC machines, so it's nice to hear your perspective. Thanks! - Joe
Thanks so much for the comment, I'm glad it was helpful!
Great video! Very informative and upfront!
Thanks Peter! I appreciate you watching!
@4:30 you sound like I am feeling in my welding career I used to dive into all the new best equipment ways to do things and now 20 years later I’m like yea w/e thankfully wood working is sparking my interests now!
This was a very honest and transparent opinion and I like it very much. I also been watching Avid but I really need a huge job to take the step and have the hardware paid by itself. Meanwhile Xcarve, ShapeOko seems to be a good option, now you changed my opinion. Thanks a lot for taking the time for this and keep up the good work. Greetings from the Caribbean.
Thanks so much!
Thanks for all this information. I ordered my Journeyman a couple weeks ago. Been playing with V-carve Pro but I haven't created any g code yet until I get it but have several files ready to go when it arrives.
Thanks for watching and good luck!
another great one! Thanks for your thoughts!
Thanks for watching!
Man, I wish I had seen this video before I bought my first CNC machine 4 weeks ago. It's been nothing but trouble. The Z assembly was locked up and would not move up or down; therefore, the machine would not home. Support had to walk me through a complete tear down of the assembly, I lubed the bearing blocks and de-tensioned a "back lash" spring. I was left on my own to re-assemble. Luckily, I am blessed this good mechanical intuition and tinkering skills. I was able to get it back together. Now I've discovered the left Y motor is not working at all. The right side motor alone was driving the gantry. I can't believe the whole thing did not explode. That discovery required another tear down and isolation-of-parts journey. Seriously? They obviously don't do quality control testing before shipping. They can't - the customer has to completely assemble everything; and like you said, if that is not your strong suit, then it could be trouble.
So after nearly 5 weeks of ownership, I have yet to carve a single successful project. Kind of stings when you've spent $3200. Anyway, sorry, to vent on your channel. It's not your problem. Sometimes my timing just sucks. Thanks for all the great information. I'll stick with what I have for now and see if I can make it work. Otherwise, there is a OneFinity machine in my future. I subscribed; keep the great videos coming.
Two Words,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Great Job!!!!
Great overview! Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
enjoyed the video and just realized that we in the same area, I live in Canton and see you are nearby in Cumming. Am looking at the OneFinity myself and would love to see your setup and pick your brain since it's all still pretty fresh in your mind.
Awesome vid!
Your vids have convined me to place my order. I just placed it.
I'm just a hobbyist.
PS - OneFinity should give you a percentage...
This answered a lot of my questions as well. If you are wanting to cut down on the noise of the machine you might want to look into a VFD Spindle. It is super quiet compared to the router. Also if you build an enclosure it would cut down on the sound dramatically. Thanks again for the answers!
I think one day I'll go for the VFD spindle, just need to figure out how to do it!
Thanks for the video. I am interested in the onefinity elite woodworker for milling out aluminum parts. We plan on doing small production work of aluminum parts. Is the machine rigid enough for aluminum work?
Having a gaming controller for your cnc is great . Could you do a video to explain how this works and the infinity software.
Great job on the video!
Thanks so much!
First comment! Woohoo! I've been looking for a CNC and I believe this is the one. I've looked at Axiom, avid CNC, Laguna, etc etc. THIS is exactly what I'm looking for and it's within the budget. It can do aluminum! You can do that material and you can do everything below it. Nylon, Acetals, G10, HDPE, etc etc. I do my CAD/CAM with Fusion 360, OneFinity has a post processor! Lol I've already uploaded it. Adding to cart here really soon. Thanks for your input! 👍
Yep! Doing aluminum soon!
@@HamiltonDilbeck the video I watched was done with the x35 and I was shocked that it did it! Like mind blown man!
Would you buy the journeyman size again or go down to a woodworker size?
big fan of the spooky art behind the machine!
Thanks! It's where I keep my mistakes, lol
I appreciate you doing the video it helped out a lot I ordered a oneinfinity journeyman a few weeks ago. What other bells and whistles should/need to buy before it get here. Watching this helped me figure out I’m gonna need the touch probe and the joystick. What else?
Glad it was helpful! Check out my latest Onefinity accessories video!
Thank you for this video. I have been going back and forth for the same reasons between the 4x8 avid and the onefinity, and I finally feel validated to go with the “smaller” option first…considering I have never even used a cnc before lol
Yep! You'll be making money in no time, if you're invested in it. So why not do both later on!!
@@HamiltonDilbeck that’s the plan!
hi thanks for this Video, I am completely new to wood working. What to makes a shop in garage in enjoy creating in retirement.
Informative. You've got me thinking.
Woo!
I'm looking into the Journeyman, I was wondering what you thought about using a spindle, I've seen alot of other youtubers upgrading with 80mm spindles and drag chain cord management, but they also say it's not a necessary thing...I've also heard the Makita routers have some speed issues when they get older...something to do with the speed dial moving while the machine is running
Why do you use double sided tape and screws? Would the tape not be sufficient on its own? Thanks for another great video!!! Keep up the good work!
Great review!
Thanks!
Great video! You should add your Etsy/website to the video description. I think you may get some sales or traffic through CZcams as well.
Thanks, thats a good idea! I'll add it later
Great video! Really would like to hear more about your Carveco software experience. I'm going in circles with which program I should purchase.
I hope to have a video out soon about Carveco- I really enjoy it
Is your take on the Avid outrunning the Onefinity for signage etc. based on the Onefinity equipped with the trim router? I’m wondering if the Onefinity may keep up if equipped with for example the pwncnc 2.2kw 220v spindle??
Hamilton, excellent video. I have a journeyman with the movable cart sitting in my garage waiting to unbox and put together. This video helped alot. I just subscribed so I'm looking forward to watching your other videos as well. I'm starting to choose software for the cnc, and my brother-in-law says he likes Corel draw. Don't know if you've tried it but if you have let me know what you thought. I'm a newbie as well, hoping to start using the cnc to generate extra funds. Anyway, I like the way you deliver your content. Thanks
I haven't heard of that one! I do know that starting off simple is best, unless you want to dump a lot of time into tutorials. Good luck and thanks for the sub!
Where do you get your boards? Great video
Great information. I ordered my X-50 Woodworker in Dec and just recently received it. It is a beast and while I haven't run much more than some test cuts I am excited for the potential. Definitely recommend the 1F and as Hamilton stated, use the long lead time to test different CAD/CAM software (freebies and trials) to learn how to create files before it arrives. I chose Carve Maker as well. I'd love to see your workflow in Carveco if you are interested in sharing. My shop has wifi and I deal with the same file issue. I upload my G-Code from the house, walk to the shop, realize a mistake in the code. Go back to the house, recreate the G-Code, return to the shop, pray I didn't make another mistake.
Thanks for watching! Thats a lot of great info and I'm glad someone else knows the struggles of walking back and forth to the shop hah! As far as my workflow for Carveco Maker, I'll attempt to make a video on that- I still have to figure out screen recording/ audio, but hopefully I'll have something up soon!
@@HamiltonDilbeck I've been thinking of buying a cheap laptop just to keep in the garage so I don't have to do the walking back and forth thing. I've also been thinking how I just need to build a big-ass pole barn with room for an office in the corner 😂
@@GrimResistance I've thought about the office too! Maybe one day lol
500th thumbs up! Lovely fact filled review, thank you!
Onefinity mentions that you can use a full sheet of 4x8 plywood with the X50 Journeyman. Have you tried it? does it work? Looking to u this for a full kitchen cabinet build to start with.
500 that's awesome!
I haven't done anything that large with mine. Mine is up against the wall so I didn't really set it up to do that kind of work from the start
What about your table that the machine sits on, is that anything special? I don’t know enough but as a noob my worry is that I have to have a rigid and perfectly level table for the machine. Did you surface your waste board and is that enough for a wonky table?
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your insight. Have you thought about a water-cooled spindle?
I have. I think if I were to upgrade my spindle I would still do air cooled though. Maybe its just me, but I personally wouldn't want one more thing to make sure was working properly.
I've been considering a CNC lately, and i'd say if I were to get one I'd look at either a Carbide3D Shapeoko, or the Onefinity. I've been playing around with various software, and it seems sketchup might be good enough for most of what I'd ever do with it. It helps that I'm pretty familiar with sketchup as well.
Just my 2 cents, but I have been running CNC for 30 years now and did all my research and in my opinion, the onefinity is hands down the best bang for your buck. On top of everything else, their support is second to none. Hope this helps.
Awesome video! Thank you🇺🇸 30:19
I have an Open builds lead 1515 machine and its pretty great. It is built with aluminum extrusions and uses lead screws. It came in about 2 weeks. Biggest downside is that it takes a while to build, 2 days for me. I haven't heard many people talk about it so I thought I would bring it up!
very cool!
Great video, what did your machine carve out while shooting this video?
Those are some of my topo trays!
I'm curious if this machine can be modified to be a very wide machine to accept pass through of large panels (like a 84"W x 32"D). It seems with a simply change of tubes and wormdrive any size is possible if flex isn't an issue. I'm an artist, so accuracy is not key.
do you happen to have a list of everything you purchased for your machine. im trying hard to get a onefinity but i have no clue what to buy to get started. I wish they had a list of everything you need to get for your machine. ps great video
Could or do you have a video on that torpedo dust collector thingy you have there.
I'm up to my neck in dust!
Thank you for the video it is very informative and I also watched the other ones you made last year, again, very useful!
I'm wondering if you have other videos on the software? I'm using Mac and Fusion 360. Thanks!
Thanks so much! As for the program- I've never used fusion 360. I stick to Carveco Maker. I show it a little bit on my most recent tray video!
@@HamiltonDilbeck Thank you I will look into it. Good Luck!
for a dust boot, I use the Sweepy 2.0 from Carbide 3D. It clamps to the router body and moves with the router instead of the router moving THRU it. Rowdy Romans dust hose boom is also great. Very good review and must agree with all you said. And if Onefinity would update their firmware to include a bit setter.... I would never miss the Shapeoko!
I've heard awesome things about the bit setter, maybe they will bring that and an ATC into the mix!
@@HamiltonDilbeck: I learned on a Shapeoko with a BitSetter and it was VERY helpful! Is there nothing like that for the Onefinity?
Maybe a stupid question, but what table is that you're using for it?
I've been bouncing between this and the Shapeoko Pro for a few weeks now; they both have some pros and cons, but I'm hopeful that I can find a video similar to this one for the Shapeoko.
I've heard awesome thigns about the Shapeoko Pro, I don't think you can go wrong!
Onefinity seriously needs to consider you for a sponsorship.
That would rock!
Is it possible to buy the samllest machine and then just buy two longer axels and a longer screw to make the cnc almost as big as you need? Do you know if therr would be any software coordinate sistem limitations as to how big you can make the cutting area if indeed possible?
I'm not sure, but I bet onefinity support would have an answer for you!
Any machine that runs off of Ball screws and linear rails has no backlash which makes it fundamentally superior to any belt driven machine.
Like the light ring for the Makita. Where did you get it?
Rowdy Roman on Etsy!
Check out the Orbi Triband Mesh wifi network. You can connect one of the satellite units with a ethernet cable and have blazing fast wifi in your shop on the same network as in your home.
I know someone that has one of these machines and when you talked about dust in the bearing blocks and wire movement I noticed he had little brushes mounted on all his bearing blocks and he had silicone on all the wire plugs.. I bought it was part of the machine until you talked about this being problems. You may want to consider doing the same
Onefinity Machinist purchased today. I am going explore everything not related to woodworking. Is this "Machinist" up to the name will be determined. I am starting with just the machine and adding a Home Machinist appropriate controller, limit switches, stepper drivers, and .75hp DC spindle, the minimum. Upgrades will be made and tested all of it to see if any of it was worth the time and investment. Let the fun begin!
On the subject of dust collection and if it's important. People often don't appreciate what a huge fire hazard fine dry wood dust is floating around everywhere. Combine that with continual sparks from inside 110 v AC motors and it's really a very high priority to control dust even if you don't care about if it's in your lungs.
Agreed, I'm surprised by the amount of dust in the router every time I blow it out!
Can you tell us a little bit about the table frame you use, for some one don't want to build one for themself
Its an outdoor kitchen cart that is no longer sold. I took the wheels off of it. Sorry that I'm not much help!!
It helps to make and install little sweeper brushes and install them on the rails in front of the bearings I made mine out of dish washing sponges. As for wiring yes, I don't understand why Onefinity made such short wires putting the control box a inch away in the front left corner is probably the worst place to put a computer it would get so much dust in it. maybe they want to keep the price down but they should charge the extra 50 bucks and give you a usable length of wiring they all should be about 10' longer really. I put drag chains on mine and had to extend every wire on the thing and also on the lazer. Also getting the 80mm spindle bracket and the 80mm 2.2kw spindle kit off amazon the router is to loud and has brushes
Very informative video. Thanks for the info. Just purchased Journeyman X-50. One question on dust collection, your recommendations would be very helpful. Thanks in advance.
I think that really depends on your budget. I've got a huge 3hp Jet Cyclone that would not leave a spec of dust on the CNC, but that comes along with piping and power. So the Festool that I have does the job for now. The festool probably gets 75% of the dust. I think If I were to have done it all again I would get the wall mounted 4" dust right system and just be fine with the noise from it. Hope that helps!
@@HamiltonDilbeckI would like to look into the 4" dust right system. Where would or coukd research this? Thanks for your help
@@ronnorris1504 Here is a good youtube video on the system. At that point it would be making sure you have the system installed as well as a dust boot that can accept a 4" hose.
czcams.com/video/mQ86kk5EMRk/video.html
What brand/model touch pad are you using to control your cnc?
It's the 10" touch screen that I ordered directly from Onefinity
Does it work with Vcarve?
Could you use an external hard drive to store your files? I may try that! Thanks for sharing
I assume you can! Those are just big USB drives after all!
@@HamiltonDilbeck Yeah basically! I’ve had some devices not be able to read it, but I’m not suuuper techy either, so I’m sure there’s a quick fix for that haha. I’ll give it a try! Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
Awesome video.
Thanks!
@@HamiltonDilbeck I liked the picture of you laying in the pile of sawdust. Was so stoked hearing you say "Now you just need more Onefinity's" I plan on having an X50 very soon. Thanks for the super informative video.
Great vid. What is the footprint of that setup?
48x72
Great video! So, my dumb question is, the wood bowls you show in the video, what type of wood was it and what was the size of it? Did you have to glue it together first? Don't laugh too hard, I'm new at this but loving every minute! Subscribing now!
Not a dumb question at all! It's wood that I glued up. It's made of purpleheart, ash, and sapele. Each plank measured 6.125" x 48"x .75" thick.
Hope that helps!
Thanks you 👍👍
Thanks for watching!
Just bought a journeyman and their support was less than desirable, am glad I bought it but am very disappointed w my first blush w support
Can you do a 1 year review?
I made a 1F clone about a year ago and was band from all 1F forums for it
Tell us more
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
How thick of material can it carve? Max Z axis height?
5.25" I think? Pretty sure that's right.
Thank you so much for this video! It reassured me to take the plunge and place my order. You mentioned that you spent about $4000 on the tooling and accessories. Would you be able to outline the tooling and accessories (in addition to the dust collection)
Oh that's the total in addition to the original $3,700 order. So that is bits and dust hoses, USB drives, double sided tape, masking, ect. I can do a full cost video later. But I did already have some things like my dust extractor which would have added another $700 on top of that (for my model)
@@HamiltonDilbeck Wow! I never considered that the other things would cost more than the machine and software. A cost breakdown would be really helpful if you have the time. Thank you!
@@TwoSix77 I'm not sure If I've made myself very clear- The total amount that I have spent on my CNC + Everything else is over 4k. The other things did not total more than the machine and software. I'll make a video soon!
@@HamiltonDilbeck ohhhhh! Okay that makes a lot of sense. Thank you for replying!
How about a soundproof enclosure ?
Possibly, but it kind of gets in the way for filming. I've got a few ideas, though!
I put a router together awhile back. Cnc becomes a second full time job. It is one way to pay for your machine and learn as you go. I purchased V carve pro after looking around. My machine is setup to start the spindle automatically linked to a solid state relay. It is not too hard to get working, and well worth the effort. Leaving the machine running and unattended is risky. However it is your machine. Stepper motors lose steps and all hell can break loose. Your video skills are impressive. The plan to run many machines in the loft will require multiple electrical outlets. But you are aware of that. I hope you retain the level of enthusiasm that you seem to have. Try and pass some of that off to the rehab people.
Always use a vacuum for cleaning. Compressed air is dangerous and damages your machine also.
What size machine do you have.
This is the Onefinity Journeyman. The total cutting size is 32x48
@@HamiltonDilbeck I don't feel too limited by having the woodworker, though I would've got the journeyman if I had the room for it. I do like that they have an easy way to upgrade though if I ever want to.
One thing is I kind of wish they had sort of an "all-in-one package" with absolutely everything you need except maybe the dust collector. I also wish they had a premade drag chain kit.
@@GrimResistance I agree, that would have been helpful for me when I was looking around!
Dude! You can fix your dust problem by simply putting a ply wood cover in front of the bottom rails! Cover those puppies up and no more dust in that part of the machine. 👍
Yeah, I'm looking into something like that right now!
@@HamiltonDilbeck heck get some card board and secure it to the ends. Problem solved. 👍
I am not sure how one would hang wood or cardboard in front of a moving ball screw.
In industrial equipment, we use a bellows tubing type of material over the ball screws. If I find a link to some, I will post it here.
@@dennisbennett7274 uhg. You don't hang it from the ball screw. You brace it to the ends! One point to another.
@@dennisbennett7274 or just use 1/4 ply wood with L brackets. The goal is to simply keep dust from entering the rails and the screw. Do you understand? If I need to explain more I can.
An industrial vacuum is much better than a blow gun. Think machinegun strafing your machine and your lungs when using a blow gun to clean.
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Thanks for watching!
It is worthwhile to take a community college industrial CNC course on computer assisted machining (CAM) such as Mastercam. Once you learn Mastercam all other CAM software id easy-peasy.
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