Tobo: well, it's about a lot of things I guess. It could be about the main character from The Downward Spiral looking back after suicide, but it could be about depression, but it could be about drug addiction.
WOw...Wheeww, I almost let go one night listening to this song for hours,.homeless in a 6yr Meth Hell. I didn't mean to watch this, stumbled on it from someones Vlog Vid, takes me back to that night. Didn't realize it would hit me so hard! I got well, visited Rome, Madrid, Paris, lived in Manhattan 6mnths, have a Son, Home just crying thinking of all I would have missed. 21yrs Clean, Sober.
It's crazy to me how every single version of this song seems to have its own meaning. The album version is downright depressing, the older live versions are filled with far more cynicism, while this one has a slight feeling of hope to it, warmth even I'd say. On top of that we have the Johnny Cash cover which also stands on its own. It takes one hell of a talented songwriter and performer to create something like this.
Core of this song is like soup base. By changing receipe a little, you could get quite different taste. From creepy warning by warm chicken soup to your soul to great farewell from great man.
I remember watching this on MTV as a teenager. It’s had so many different meanings to me through my lifetime - now I’m 42 and it’s such a different experience. You nailed it.
I hate the crowd. I mean, it looks like it was a pretty kick ass audience, but I don't want to hear any of them sing. It's not too bad in this case, as Trent's mic is up high enough to make them sound like backing vocals, but I've been to a few shows where all I can here are the people around me sing, and it's fucking annoying.
@@Kriegsbeil5577 That's really odd, because when I made that reply 11 months ago, I'm almost positive that I had just watched the live version of "Enjoy the Silence" right before this or perhaps a bit earlier. Lol, but I had the same complaint for that one as well. If I had seen them live before, then I wouldn't mind the crowd singing, but if it was my first time I would be really disappointed. I don't usually say "I hate the crowd", but that Depeche Mode live video made me say it here.
"My sweetest friend" is not an addmition to a lost relation or letting some one else down. This song is about yourself. It is about letting yourself down. About reaching in and realizing your "fragile" and sometimes you fail big time. I'm there right now. The bottom end of a bottle. I have to look at myself now and realize what I have become.
Exactly! That is the finest comment I have come across!... Fair fuckin play to u Steve. I spent 4 yrs in a cell listening to this and that is the exact conclusion I came to. Its about urself nd only u. I'm out now nd trying to improve. Meet u in Dublin some day for a drink 😈👍😎
This is one of the few songs in music history that’s gotten more people sober and off of drugs than any other. This song has literally changed so many peoples lives.
This one and "Nutshell" by Alice in Chains... especially the "Unplugged" performance. 12 years clean... and that song was an important part of the journey. Still is. You can tell these dudes have hurt before.
Couldn't agree more - any time I struggle with my chemicals this brings me calm and sanity and I can survive another hour without either of my drugs of choice that became no choice. I volunteer at a drugs/alcohol clinic - if you have an issue and know it's time please seek help. Me & my colleagues world wide are there to help. Much love to all in need - there's strength in numbers
The thing I love about the live version I love is knowing that all the people singing with Trent have felt some of the same things I have. Knowing we’re not alone gives us hope through the hurt.
I just said this in another post. We've all been battling the same shit and I've met so many people that grew up on this type of music relate to each other and encourage each other to do to be ok in this world
It may not be a popular opinion but this song actually bring me to tears of joy. It reminds me of a dark period of my life yes, but it also reminds me of how I overcame that darkness and came out of the other side a better man, husband and father.
@@virginiaknighten4687 Thank you for the kind words I’m glad you loved it! It’s a deeply personal song for me and I consider it a masterpiece. Moves me every time I hear it
@@someguy9471 it is amazingly beautiful that music can stir something up inside us that we didn’t expect or know was there. I love the way different songs can do this. And you are very welcome✌️
The song is over 20 years old now and still rips through me like the first time I heard it. I'm not a huge NIN fan, I like Reznor, but not a huge fan. But this is one of the 10 best songs from my generation I think. Oh, and I love Johnny Cash, but the emotional roller coaster Trent takes people on with this song is beyond what Cash did with the song. I know Trent said it was Johnny's song now, and I appreciate his respectful nature to a great, but Trent has to know the emotional impact of a live performance like this cannot be touched.
+Ray Geetard www.google.com/search?biw=360&bih=307&ei=CeaYV5vHKcSwjwPEio34CQ&q=who+wrote+hurt+first&oq=who+wrote+hurt&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.1.0l5.32940168.32944750.0.32947474.15.15.0.5.5.0.1142.5498.2-7j6j1j7-1.15.0....0...1c.1j4.64.mobile-gws-serp..3.12.2229.3..41j0i3j0i67j0i131.Rh6Z4jbXjdQ. the first info proves that it's originally nin
Yesterday I was at a philosophical discussion. The subject was "Are there higher and lower forms of pleasure?". Someone suggested that opera was a higher form of pleasure than common hit songs. In order to appreciate opera you must make an effort to understand it. Than it struck me, this song is not pleasure, but it´s a high form of art. In order to understand this song you must be familiar with suffering. Those who are lucky to not have suffered very much are not likely to understand it. This song is also an example that high quality art can trigger very strong emotions. I can't listen, or even think of it without tears coming from my eyes.
because Trent was more interested in creating an atmosphere of desolation and despair, while prioritizing goosebumps and emotion rather than complexity. but NIN and other Reznor's projects are quite complex
Why do people have to always compare the 2 versions, can't we all accept that they're both beautiful insightful renditions with 2 very different meanings!
jerry argudo Yeah, but it's sad, that people outline their opinions as absolute truth. It would be nice if people would learn how to peacefully and kindly express their opinions. :)
Both versions are the most beautiful songs I've heard on the subject of pain... Here's what Trent said about Cash's version... When Trent Reznor was asked if Cash could cover his song, Reznor said he was "flattered" but worried that "the idea sounded a bit gimmicky." He became a fan of Cash's version, however, once he saw the music video. “ I pop the video in, and wow... Tears welling, silence, goose-bumps... Wow. [I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn't mine anymore... It really made me think about how powerful music is as a medium and art form. I wrote some words and music in my bedroom as a way of staying sane, about a bleak and desperate place I was in, totally isolated and alone. [Somehow] that winds up reinterpreted by a music legend from a radically different era/genre and still retains sincerity and meaning - different, but every bit as pure
both versions? no. one is original and one is cover. '' [I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn't mine anymore''... no. trent reznor is wrote the song and j. cash cover, end of story.
Where did u sleep last night ledbelly is a painful song. Good nirvana cover of it too! So is coma white thats a painful song and clown by Korn are all to me more pained than this.... korn have a hell of alot of hard hitting songs actually. I love trent and this song but now all I see when I close my eyes listening to it now is rick and morty... if u know u know 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why do people even compare?? It's 2 different artist and both do the song justice. Don't like one? Don't listen to it. But don't say it's better or worst cause it isn't.
I love (yet feel the anguish and pain is palpable still) the fact this man wrote this song at a time and in a state that most musicians sadly die,or fade into obscurity. He did neither.He was meant to carry on and beat the crap out of his demons.....Not many have the strength.He did.And I applaud his strength and fight,as much as I applaud his performance of this song so many years later.And I love how a small part of the piano is so slightly different at one point.(I know nothing of music,though I'm sure ppl know what I'm on about). Everyone hates a long post,but I feel justified.....Oh,and sanctified ;) Brilliant performance,Trent.
Why are people so bothered about which version is better. Although they are technically the same they are both completely separate pieces of art done by people in completely different circumstances with completely different motives
I do feel like he nin version is more relatable to me en I think that’s the case for most younger people. The cash cover is more based on the experience of being old and ready to say goodbye tot your life and feeling alone in a changed world. The nin version is more about depression and/or addiction. And wanting to end it before your time. It’s a totally different song even though they’re the same. This is a nice example why music is my favorite thing in life.
Almost 6 million views...hmmmm..And its for something that has meaning, thats not Ironic,thats not distasteful. This song can relate to any person from anywhere. Reznor you saved my life.
Johnny Cash's version is a whole different level. The two can't be compared. The band even liked his version more. As great as NIN is, they know they'll never be as big and as influential as Cash.
RCG yea they both are insanely emotional and sad but are in two different categories to the point where it’s stupid to compare them. This version sounds very off putting to me and is very emotional with the vocals well Johnny’s version is emotional when thinking about it and what the artist is going through at the time
bRuH Clan The NIN version is depressing in a more... emo way. Like it still hits the feels but given they're still young and don't have the reputation that Cash has it didn't stick in me as harshly.
I first remember hearing this when I was but a kid on the album, "Downward Spiral". Being the last song after I'd listened to this immense new sound, this music I'd never heard before it was all ended with this song at the very end of the album. Having felt I just lived the very tale which was now sprawled throughout my mind I could only imagine the perception of life through this mans eyes. Years later, 2001 I believe, I hear this same tune and words coming through the radio from an old but familiar voice, Johnny Cash and it hit my soul like a brick. These two men have lived lives fractal to each other. Living vicariously through drugs and their loved ones only to be further damaged by the loss of both. Trent wrote this song in a very dark hour (so I understand) and Mr.Cash covered this song a very dark time toward the end of his life after the loss of his wife. I can only thank Trent for allowing such personal feelings to be shared in such a deep manner, as is with excellence in music.
Upon first discovering NIN, I spent a lot of time listening to this song and crying my heart out. I’m glad I did, it has a special place in my heart forever. Now I can listen to it with a comforting vibe forever within my heart.
So much emotion in this song, I can really see why Cash covered it and at that late stage in his life where he was reflecting back on his mistakes, he probably related to this song in a major way.RIP johnny
I haven't used heroin for nineteen years in the upcoming 4th of December. I've stumbled upon this song a couple of times and it still hurts without being ironic. I wonder what he feels when the audience cheers while he is wide open with his pain and struggle.
Just skip to 3:15 close your eyes and imagine a crowd standing together after one of the many terrible events we are faced with struggling through together. A beautiful anthem of grieving and healing together.
fakename ya it's nice to see people atleast do that standing for the flag that represents the very own country that gives us the freedoms and opportunity to be who we are it's not at all in reflect whether you're white black dont want to get killed by a police officer Dont pull gun's on them fucking retards so sick of the soft bull shit excuses Today's American people make up for bad choices people continue to make statistics say it seems to be more on the higher end of black people? Kinda of funny coming from people that off each other every single day in america and has for some time now in record numbers but suddenly black life's matter when someone of another race commits offense there attention seeking whore's and there from My experience little bitch's with big mouth's and ego's fake insecure not all but most and I'm not a racist to any color in particular just to a coward type personality
I had always thought Cash's version was more emotional, whereas Trent's album version gave off a feeling of emptiness, but this right here does both. Absolutely incredible. A masterpiece.
This song meant something totally different to us in the 90's than it did for Cash in his version. I prefer Trent's version, but both are heartwrenching and beautiful and both make me cry. I was never substance addicted, but one can be addicted to many things that crush the soul and bring us close to death. This song speaks to all of us.
Johnny Cash couldn't even get close with that polished, country and clean radio cashy hit of him. When NIN performs it, I feel every single word, the pauses, the breathes, the images... When Trent sings it, his words, man it is heart wrenching, depressing, painfull, sad, despair all over it, almost suffocating and claustrophobic for not being able to get away from the inevitability of death. The best album in the history of the genre, for sure.
Both johnny and Trent sung this song with true emotion and passion. Nobody will ever perform this song like Trent but johnny is the only one who will ever come close with his cover.
Ligeia Noire When Cash performs it.. Tears roll.. Both of them make you feel it because both of them lived it.. Johnny simply lived it a lot deeper than any other
I'm glad you found it. I have been a NIN fan since the 90's, and this is my favorite of Trent's performances. I'm 48. It is easy to see why Trent is so decorated with awards; Grammy's, Golden Globes, Oscars. He is a musicians musician.
In response to Johnny Cash's cover, Trent said it "was like watching someone else kiss your old girlfriend..." meaning something which was so intimate and personal to Trent has new been given a new purpose or life. Watching any video of Trent performing this beautiful song you can see how intimate it truly is for him... seeing him live chilled my bones. That's why to me, this version has so much more impact, because its so damn personal.
This is one of a very short list of songs I revisit again, again, again. It takes me to a place I can't explain, it hurts and heals at the same time. Trent Reznor is out of this world.
I’d argue it being the audience sharing the moment with Trent. Think of it as the audience saying altogether “we’re with you”/“we’ll carry you through the song” because it’s a very deep and personal song for Trent. A performance artist lives off the response from their audience. Think of when a Queen audience collectively sing “Love of My Life”. It’s truly a great thing to behold.
I agree that it's not a "happy" song but mote so the audience has understood and appreciated the song, the meaning it has for Trent, the meaning it has for a lot of us, that we'll all be here for each other collectively. I find that so many of us that have fought addictions cheer each other on. The music especially this song is such a big part of what we use to cope. I see the clapping more as a beautiful moment.
At the end of the day, the week, the year, everything, you have to look in the mirror. Truly see yourself for what you are. This song describes whats inside
The reason why I love this song is the way it makes you feel every emotion of being hurt; you feel really sad at the verse then a sense of desperation on the pre chorus/chorus and the rotten cherry on the top is the last line which makes you feel rage. And not just rage, it's pure hate. The song is amazing... If you've ever been hurt this song is the embodiment of it.
Its been over 17 year since I heard this version. I was always partial to the johnny cash cover, but seeing this performance live really blew my 15 year old mind. I completely forgot they were recording for a DVD that night. So glad it to be able to revisit this memory. Thanks for the tickets Danny. Hope life treated you well.
This is probably my favorite version of hurt bcuz the audience is like a fuckin tribute to Trent's genius and I get the chills every time I listen to this. I like to think that he did too.
This is the best version of this in my opinion. The vocals are so much better than the original studio recording also. Regardless of his political beliefs which I believe are biased and misled. Unfortunately so many are either paid to say certain things or misled by propaganda. Too many people buy into one direction or another without any nuance or mind to discern properly.
I've been trapped in my addiction for a long time. I've made the decision to quit a long time ago. And I've failed countless times... I've come to relalise that "my sweetest friend" means me. A part of me at least, that's been lingering around for about 13 years now, being a shadow, protecting me, from the 'real' me. It's right about time for me to say goodbye. No turning back, no exceptions, no more loopholes. It's either do or die trying. This night is only mine, and the only questions that remain: how deep does the rabbit hole goes? And who will I become, when I manage to emerge from it? Time will tell my tale.
Just saw NIN live two weeks ago in Amsterdam. Whenever they play Hurt I get sad and excited at the same time. Excited because it is an incomprehensibly touching and transforming song. Then I get sad because I know they close all their concerts, always, with Hurt. Bless this man
When I see and listen to trent reznor's version, I really feel so related to his voice, his words, his pain.. I love johnny cash's version too and also he keeps that feelings on his own way and life But when it comes to trent, man I feel very connected to him. I wish someday I could sit with him and just talk about life, about those lyrics, about how it was to him to fit those shoes.. What a great performer.
Man that's a powerful performance,Trent is such a awesome artist.He never fails to deliver! He's One of the few musicians that never gets old and always gives me goosebumps!
The words are as prolific as the piano keys, This song echoes through me as its timeless, ageless. Johnny cash did what we all have done with this song, somehow make it 'our own' and applicable to our own lives. That’s part of the skill Trent has, not only are his talents obvious, but they stir something in everyone that hears his work... Heartbreaking, Genuine, Raw and relatable - not written for anyone but, hauntingly personal to everyone.
because of its individuality cash´s version is one of the greatest cover-versions ever. but the original here is the real thing, the real sensation, intensity, originality.
IMO this song MUST contain that descending piano riff. This song is about being in a hole and not being able to crawl out of it and even dragging ppl down with you (due to drug addiction or whatever other destructive affliction someone may be dealing with). that piano riff is so indicative of the essence of the song. johnny cash did a moving rendition but it was nowhere as emotionally provoking as the original.
I see a lot of debate about which version is better but most of you fail to realize the fact that Johnny Cash's version is a "cover" and without the original (and permission from the artist) there would be no debate just something to think about when you debate whose is better
This song destroyed me. Hearing this song at his North American tour this year is one thing I'll never forget. I just wish I could go back and listen to it again.
i listen this song the first time on a version of johnny cash and i just have to say both versions are breathtaking and the lyrics do the job to make u tear up a little bit
I hurt myself today To see if I still feel I focus on the pain The only thing that's real The needle tears a hole The old familiar sting Try to kill it all away But I remember everything What have I become My sweetest friend Everyone I know Goes away in the end And you could have it all My empire of dirt I will let you down I will make you hurt I wear this crown of shit Upon my liars chair Full of broken thoughts I cannot repair Beneath the stains of time The feelings disappear You are someone else I am still right here What have I become My sweetest friend Everyone I know Goes away in the end And you could have it all My empire of dirt I will let you down I will make you hurt If I could start again A million miles away I will keep myself I would find a way
I heard this live the first time back in 1995 when NIN played at MSG. I was 21 and I was all sorts of fucked up and I needed it as angry and hopeless as it was. Now I’m 2022 at 47 this version is exactly what I need now. There’s a completely different edge to it. Somehow I’m in many ways the same screwed up girl I was back then. I just hide it a bit better now I suppose. Shit time goes by way too fast….
I'm 44 and battling the same bullshit but I find myself with some hope lately. It does go by way to fast. Most of the people I shared it with didn't get to make it through so I don't share my memories with many and sometimes I question if it was really real...
Truly introspective. Talking to myself, crying my entire heart out. Sobriety hurts so bad right now but I will find a way. Did this crap to myself, the pain is bad but it will be okay.
Here are my two cents on the discussion on the which version is "better". The main difference in Original and Cashes cover is the emotion they convey. Trents version is full of self-loathing , it was written as a medium with which to get the anger at self out. Trent said it was something he wrote se he could stay sane and live through that shitty situation he was in. Cash's cover is much different. It is a grimm realization of ones own mortality. You see a dying man, a leggend at the very end of the road. The lyrics lend themselves perfectly to the reimagined purpose. Everyone he knew, from his glorious past, was either dead or dying, while he is siting there wondering if anything even remains to live for. On me Cash's version has a deeper emotianal impact. However if I was in a depression I would likely prefer the original.
+Morclaw Two more topics I would like to tough on. 1st this is not a fucking competition. imitation is the highest form of flattery , and I imagine being covered by a legend must be pretty fattering. Well , we don't have to imagine because Trent said it himself. 2nd The point that Cash replaced the crown of shit with crown of thorns to remove profanity: well the crown of shit in the original vershion is there to hammer in the self-hatred, and it accomplishes it perfectly. Hovever , selfloathing is not part of JC's hardship.Not only would it make no sense to keep it there , it would even confuse the entire message of his version.
tbh honest when I hear these 2 songs I can't help but think of these huge fight between 2 opposing factions. nin version would essentially the mid battle song with all the chaos, bloodshed etc etc. but cash 's version would essentially be the aftermath. picking up the peices and coming to terms with who they have lost and so on.
I didn’t know Cashes version was a cover because I heard it first, and then a few days later I heard the studio version and now I’ve heard three different versions of the same song that all invoke completely different emotions. This song is truly incredible
I've heard this song so many times it has lost it's ability to give me the creeps and blow my mind the way it did when I first heard it but this live version brought all those emotions back to life and makes me feel again
This is how I take this songs many versions Newer live(NIN): Hopeful and proud that he changed Older live(NIN): With more anger and thoughts that life is a rut Album(NIN): Depressing look into how life can truly harm anyone and get away with it no matter who and they're circumstances Cash version: With embarrassment and confusion that his near 50 year career made him someone he hated but couldn't change because it was to late
This song cures depression and sends you in it at the same time.
Agreed. Very fine line.
Ridwan Ahmed You know this song is about depression right?
it makes you aware of your state, it doesn't cure it.
This song's about heroin addiction...
Tobo: well, it's about a lot of things I guess. It could be about the main character from The Downward Spiral looking back after suicide, but it could be about depression, but it could be about drug addiction.
WOw...Wheeww, I almost let go one night listening to this song for hours,.homeless in a 6yr Meth Hell. I didn't mean to watch this, stumbled on it from someones Vlog Vid, takes me back to that night. Didn't realize it would hit me so hard! I got well, visited Rome, Madrid, Paris, lived in Manhattan 6mnths, have a Son, Home just crying thinking of all I would have missed. 21yrs Clean, Sober.
HorizonChaser congrats buddy. Keep it up!
One love
sobriety is so worth it!!
You’ve made it , you are becoming who you are meant to be . I’ve been through something similar, proud of you man
and were so proud of you friend.
Crackhead over here, recovered. I hear ya bro. This song kills. Hits our spirit right where we live.
It's crazy to me how every single version of this song seems to have its own meaning. The album version is downright depressing, the older live versions are filled with far more cynicism, while this one has a slight feeling of hope to it, warmth even I'd say. On top of that we have the Johnny Cash cover which also stands on its own. It takes one hell of a talented songwriter and performer to create something like this.
a few major piano notes starting near 2:18 help give this version a feeling of hope
Core of this song is like soup base. By changing receipe a little, you could get quite different taste. From creepy warning by warm chicken soup to your soul to great farewell from great man.
I have yet to find the version that is on the CD that I own.
I remember watching this on MTV as a teenager. It’s had so many different meanings to me through my lifetime - now I’m 42 and it’s such a different experience. You nailed it.
Regardless....that howling wind sound underneath it all...that's desert, death, and decay...
Personally this is the live version that I enjoy the most. It's just beautiful in every aspect, Trent on the piano, the way it's directed, the crowd..
Angel Matarin totally agree
100% agree
I hate the crowd. I mean, it looks like it was a pretty kick ass audience, but I don't want to hear any of them sing. It's not too bad in this case, as Trent's mic is up high enough to make them sound like backing vocals, but I've been to a few shows where all I can here are the people around me sing, and it's fucking annoying.
So agreed!!!
@@Kriegsbeil5577 That's really odd, because when I made that reply 11 months ago, I'm almost positive that I had just watched the live version of "Enjoy the Silence" right before this or perhaps a bit earlier. Lol, but I had the same complaint for that one as well. If I had seen them live before, then I wouldn't mind the crowd singing, but if it was my first time I would be really disappointed. I don't usually say "I hate the crowd", but that Depeche Mode live video made me say it here.
"My sweetest friend" is not an addmition to a lost relation or letting some one else down. This song is about yourself. It is about letting yourself down. About reaching in and realizing your "fragile" and sometimes you fail big time. I'm there right now. The bottom end of a bottle. I have to look at myself now and realize what I have become.
Exactly! That is the finest comment I have come across!... Fair fuckin play to u Steve. I spent 4 yrs in a cell listening to this and that is the exact conclusion I came to. Its about urself nd only u. I'm out now nd trying to improve. Meet u in Dublin some day for a drink 😈👍😎
Thank you for this, needed it ❤️
Thank you so much, truly 💜
I don't know who you are. But I love you. Have a good life...
The bottle is always empty
This still brings out emotions in me that I thought were long dead
This song gave me life that I thought was long gone. Funny how music works. hugs.
I know what you mean, I'm 23 years clean, and it still feels like yesterday.
Yeah it make me cry everytime skin deep
Wow same!
For real
This is one of the few songs in music history that’s gotten more people sober and off of drugs than any other. This song has literally changed so many peoples lives.
It’s curing me right now
This one and "Nutshell" by Alice in Chains... especially the "Unplugged" performance.
12 years clean... and that song was an important part of the journey.
Still is.
You can tell these dudes have hurt before.
Couldn't agree more - any time I struggle with my chemicals this brings me calm and sanity and I can survive another hour without either of my drugs of choice that became no choice.
I volunteer at a drugs/alcohol clinic - if you have an issue and know it's time please seek help. Me & my colleagues world wide are there to help. Much love to all in need - there's strength in numbers
we're all in this together, even through the pain and suffering.
Molten_ youuuuuuu and me WE’RE IN THIS TOGETHER NOOOOOWWWWWW
The Way Out Is Through
The thing I love about the live version I love is knowing that all the people singing with Trent have felt some of the same things I have. Knowing we’re not alone gives us hope through the hurt.
I just said this in another post. We've all been battling the same shit and I've met so many people that grew up on this type of music relate to each other and encourage each other to do to be ok in this world
The cheering takes away from the emotion tho..
so true
It may not be a popular opinion but this song actually bring me to tears of joy. It reminds me of a dark period of my life yes, but it also reminds me of how I overcame that darkness and came out of the other side a better man, husband and father.
I think it’s wonderful that this song can bring joy and good memories to you. Loved your comment❤️
@@virginiaknighten4687 Thank you for the kind words I’m glad you loved it! It’s a deeply personal song for me and I consider it a masterpiece. Moves me every time I hear it
@@someguy9471 it is amazingly beautiful that music can stir something up inside us that we didn’t expect or know was there. I love the way different songs can do this. And you are very welcome✌️
Love bro 🙏🙏
i relate to that heavily
The song is over 20 years old now and still rips through me like the first time I heard it. I'm not a huge NIN fan, I like Reznor, but not a huge fan. But this is one of the 10 best songs from my generation I think. Oh, and I love Johnny Cash, but the emotional roller coaster Trent takes people on with this song is beyond what Cash did with the song. I know Trent said it was Johnny's song now, and I appreciate his respectful nature to a great, but Trent has to know the emotional impact of a live performance like this cannot be touched.
Dude I'm pretty sure cash wrote this song and these hipsters are just jumping on the band wag on
+Ray Geetard www.google.com/search?biw=360&bih=307&ei=CeaYV5vHKcSwjwPEio34CQ&q=who+wrote+hurt+first&oq=who+wrote+hurt&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.1.1.0l5.32940168.32944750.0.32947474.15.15.0.5.5.0.1142.5498.2-7j6j1j7-1.15.0....0...1c.1j4.64.mobile-gws-serp..3.12.2229.3..41j0i3j0i67j0i131.Rh6Z4jbXjdQ. the first info proves that it's originally nin
b disc Ray Geetard is just jokstering.
shut the fuck up already
Im sorry but Cash killed it and its also very relateable to his personal problems...
Yesterday I was at a philosophical discussion. The subject was "Are there higher and lower forms of pleasure?". Someone suggested that opera was a higher form of pleasure than common hit songs. In order to appreciate opera you must make an effort to understand it. Than it struck me, this song is not pleasure, but it´s a high form of art. In order to understand this song you must be familiar with suffering. Those who are lucky to not have suffered very much are not likely to understand it. This song is also an example that high quality art can trigger very strong emotions. I can't listen, or even think of it without tears coming from my eyes.
Great post.
I fucking wish I didn't get this song then but good point I guess.
I relate coming off Heroin, oxycontin, fentanyl and morphine to this song. Makes me feel sad
because Trent was more interested in creating an atmosphere of desolation and despair, while prioritizing goosebumps and emotion rather than complexity. but NIN and other Reznor's projects are quite complex
Well-put, Kristian.
Why do people have to always compare the 2 versions, can't we all accept that they're both beautiful insightful renditions with 2 very different meanings!
they just want to get their opinion out there
jerry argudo Yeah, but it's sad, that people outline their opinions as absolute truth. It would be nice if people would learn how to peacefully and kindly express their opinions. :)
Because Humans are Primitive
MrSamuel539 except that one is way better
My version of hurt has another meaning I made up in my head.
Just a shame Trent and Johnny didn't get a chance to get together for a live performance of this.
Wow, I can't believe that possibility never occurred to me. That would have been pretty unbelievable
Johnny Cash will steal the show
Not enough tissues in the world to support that audience lol
That would be horrendous
it would break youtube for sure that would of been dope to watch
You know you're the real deal when Johnny Cash rips your song
*covers
Poker Fish I dig the acoustic guitar more. Its more emotional, just my opinion
+Rohan Roy True! This is just cheasy, the way its presented, they try to be so sad, it is just feels fake for me.
Poker Fish on Hurt, between the original song by them and the cover of Johnny Cash, which is better?
Takes you down a peg when most people only know your song because Johnny Cash covered it.:)
Both versions are the most beautiful songs I've heard on the subject of pain...
Here's what Trent said about Cash's version...
When Trent Reznor was asked if Cash could cover his song, Reznor said he was "flattered" but worried that "the idea sounded a bit gimmicky." He became a fan of Cash's version, however, once he saw the music video.
“ I pop the video in, and wow... Tears welling, silence, goose-bumps... Wow. [I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn't mine anymore... It really made me think about how powerful music is as a medium and art form. I wrote some words and music in my bedroom as a way of staying sane, about a bleak and desperate place I was in, totally isolated and alone. [Somehow] that winds up reinterpreted by a music legend from a radically different era/genre and still retains sincerity and meaning - different, but every bit as pure
💖🙏
You forgot the part of the quote where he said he "didn't like it" before he saw the video. : /
exactly, the Cash fans always leave that part out when saying Reznor said its Cash's now.
both versions? no. one is original and one is cover. '' [I felt like] I just lost my girlfriend, because that song isn't mine anymore''... no. trent reznor is wrote the song and j. cash cover, end of story.
Where did u sleep last night ledbelly is a painful song. Good nirvana cover of it too! So is coma white thats a painful song and clown by Korn are all to me more pained than this.... korn have a hell of alot of hard hitting songs actually. I love trent and this song but now all I see when I close my eyes listening to it now is rick and morty... if u know u know 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love the stage lighting these guys have. You can never quite see their faces. It totally gives the show a sense of depth.
Why do people even compare?? It's 2 different artist and both do the song justice. Don't like one? Don't listen to it. But don't say it's better or worst cause it isn't.
I'm gonna be honest with you Cash's is MUCH better then this.
But Lizard...you're wrong. Haha
But Mayson... I'm not.
*sigh*
Differnt opinions I guess.
Perspective
I love (yet feel the anguish and pain is palpable still) the fact this man wrote this song at a time and in a state that most musicians sadly die,or fade into obscurity.
He did neither.He was meant to carry on and beat the crap out of his demons.....Not many have the strength.He did.And I applaud his strength and fight,as much as I applaud his performance of this song so many years later.And I love how a small part of the piano is so slightly different at one point.(I know nothing of music,though I'm sure ppl know what I'm on about).
Everyone hates a long post,but I feel justified.....Oh,and sanctified ;)
Brilliant performance,Trent.
Why are people so bothered about which version is better. Although they are technically the same they are both completely separate pieces of art done by people in completely different circumstances with completely different motives
AMEN
>old one
Nine Inch Nails version is the original one.. I like better the Jhonny Cash's one tho
titus bramble agree
I do feel like he nin version is more relatable to me en I think that’s the case for most younger people. The cash cover is more based on the experience of being old and ready to say goodbye tot your life and feeling alone in a changed world.
The nin version is more about depression and/or addiction. And wanting to end it before your time. It’s a totally different song even though they’re the same. This is a nice example why music is my favorite thing in life.
Almost 6 million views...hmmmm..And its for something that has meaning, thats not Ironic,thats not distasteful. This song can relate to any person from anywhere. Reznor you saved my life.
There is no better version than this one...
berryfairy68 Johnny Cash's version is not even close
Johnny Cash's version is a whole different level. The two can't be compared. The band even liked his version more. As great as NIN is, they know they'll never be as big and as influential as Cash.
Ayyy, got your comment to 69. You're welcome.
RCG yea they both are insanely emotional and sad but are in two different categories to the point where it’s stupid to compare them. This version sounds very off putting to me and is very emotional with the vocals well Johnny’s version is emotional when thinking about it and what the artist is going through at the time
bRuH Clan The NIN version is depressing in a more... emo way. Like it still hits the feels but given they're still young and don't have the reputation that Cash has it didn't stick in me as harshly.
this performance is so moving. all the feels right now.
Get goosebumps on the first riff... Then the first lyrics... I get them everywhere.
The greatest song in history
The Downward Spiral.Got me thru the toughest time in my life
I first remember hearing this when I was but a kid on the album, "Downward Spiral". Being the last song after I'd listened to this immense new sound, this music I'd never heard before it was all ended with this song at the very end of the album. Having felt I just lived the very tale which was now sprawled throughout my mind I could only imagine the perception of life through this mans eyes.
Years later, 2001 I believe, I hear this same tune and words coming through the radio from an old but familiar voice, Johnny Cash and it hit my soul like a brick. These two men have lived lives fractal to each other. Living vicariously through drugs and their loved ones only to be further damaged by the loss of both.
Trent wrote this song in a very dark hour (so I understand) and Mr.Cash covered this song a very dark time toward the end of his life after the loss of his wife.
I can only thank Trent for allowing such personal feelings to be shared in such a deep manner, as is with excellence in music.
Upon first discovering NIN, I spent a lot of time listening to this song and crying my heart out. I’m glad I did, it has a special place in my heart forever. Now I can listen to it with a comforting vibe forever within my heart.
So much emotion in this song, I can really see why Cash covered it and at that late stage in his life where he was reflecting back on his mistakes, he probably related to this song in a major way.RIP johnny
best version of the song
For real bro ! Someone gets it lol
I haven't used heroin for nineteen years in the upcoming 4th of December. I've stumbled upon this song a couple of times and it still hurts without being ironic.
I wonder what he feels when the audience cheers while he is wide open with his pain and struggle.
Proud for you. Are you still doing good? Take care of yourself...
"what are you in for, Everything"
-Rick
feels man
Just skip to 3:15 close your eyes and imagine a crowd standing together after one of the many terrible events we are faced with struggling through together. A beautiful anthem of grieving and healing together.
fakename ya it's nice to see people atleast do that standing for the flag that represents the very own country that gives us the freedoms and opportunity to be who we are it's not at all in reflect whether you're white black dont want to get killed by a police officer Dont pull gun's on them fucking retards so sick of the soft bull shit excuses Today's American people make up for bad choices people continue to make statistics say it seems to be more on the higher end of black people? Kinda of funny coming from people that off each other every single day in america and has for some time now in record numbers but suddenly black life's matter when someone of another race commits offense there attention seeking whore's and there from My experience little bitch's with big mouth's and ego's fake insecure not all but most and I'm not a racist to any color in particular just to a coward type personality
I had always thought Cash's version was more emotional, whereas Trent's album version gave off a feeling of emptiness, but this right here does both.
Absolutely incredible.
A masterpiece.
I know its about Trents struggle with heroin addiction but the lyrics resonate with all the suicidal thoughts we all have every day. Peace out
This song meant something totally different to us in the 90's than it did for Cash in his version. I prefer Trent's version, but both are heartwrenching and beautiful and both make me cry. I was never substance addicted, but one can be addicted to many things that crush the soul and bring us close to death. This song speaks to all of us.
I miss Trent doing it this way. Something about the lone piano and just his voice makes it a lot more gut-wrenching in a beautiful way.
I love the harmony of the crowd singing along
Johnny Cash couldn't even get close with that polished, country and clean radio cashy hit of him. When NIN performs it, I feel every single word, the pauses, the breathes, the images... When Trent sings it, his words, man it is heart wrenching, depressing, painfull, sad, despair all over it, almost suffocating and claustrophobic for not being able to get away from the inevitability of death. The best album in the history of the genre, for sure.
Both johnny and Trent sung this song with true emotion and passion. Nobody will ever perform this song like Trent but johnny is the only one who will ever come close with his cover.
Exactly no one can cover the pain trent had when he spoke these simple words dudesef
This guy gets it art comes from the heart not when I hear someone say it then repeat it
Luke Helmke trent didnt cover it he created it
Ligeia Noire When Cash performs it.. Tears roll.. Both of them make you feel it because both of them lived it.. Johnny simply lived it a lot deeper than any other
I’m 71 nearly 72 and heard this amazing song for the first time yesterday 3/31/22
It has totally blown my mind.. In A Good Way!
I'm glad you found it. I have been a NIN fan since the 90's, and this is my favorite of Trent's performances. I'm 48. It is easy to see why Trent is so decorated with awards; Grammy's, Golden Globes, Oscars. He is a musicians musician.
@@upcycle.outdoorsman9629 Thank you for your reply. I’m sure that I’ll be watching this video forever!
It's amazing how music can span across some many generations and be loved by so many generations.
In response to Johnny Cash's cover, Trent said it "was like watching someone else kiss your old girlfriend..." meaning something which was so intimate and personal to Trent has new been given a new purpose or life. Watching any video of Trent performing this beautiful song you can see how intimate it truly is for him... seeing him live chilled my bones. That's why to me, this version has so much more impact, because its so damn personal.
3:55 when the rest of the background comes in ... pure magic ...
This is one of a very short list of songs I revisit again, again, again. It takes me to a place I can't explain, it hurts and heals at the same time.
Trent Reznor is out of this world.
When the drums kick in, goosebumps all over the body..
The only song that will make you hurt and heal you simultaneously.
Shout out to the dude recording with a flip phone.
He was live streaming
Am I the only one who thinks that this becomes a happy song when the audience sings the chorus with him?
I’d argue it being the audience sharing the moment with Trent. Think of it as the audience saying altogether “we’re with you”/“we’ll carry you through the song” because it’s a very deep and personal song for Trent. A performance artist lives off the response from their audience. Think of when a Queen audience collectively sing “Love of My Life”. It’s truly a great thing to behold.
I agree that it's not a "happy" song but mote so the audience has understood and appreciated the song, the meaning it has for Trent, the meaning it has for a lot of us, that we'll all be here for each other collectively.
I find that so many of us that have fought addictions cheer each other on. The music especially this song is such a big part of what we use to cope. I see the clapping more as a beautiful moment.
At the end of the day, the week, the year, everything, you have to look in the mirror. Truly see yourself for what you are. This song describes whats inside
Saw NIN at the royal opera house, London a few years ago. Best gig I’ve ever been to
his voice gives me so many fucking goosebumps!!
The reason why I love this song is the way it makes you feel every emotion of being hurt; you feel really sad at the verse then a sense of desperation on the pre chorus/chorus and the rotten cherry on the top is the last line which makes you feel rage. And not just rage, it's pure hate.
The song is amazing... If you've ever been hurt this song is the embodiment of it.
Via dipicting a real embodiment mass
There's something very haunting about that chord progression. It feels broken, damaged. Beautifully written.
Its been over 17 year since I heard this version. I was always partial to the johnny cash cover, but seeing this performance live really blew my 15 year old mind. I completely forgot they were recording for a DVD that night. So glad it to be able to revisit this memory. Thanks for the tickets Danny. Hope life treated you well.
Probably the most somber and heartfelt performance ever. Back when people had lighters.
“What are you in for?” “Everything.”
This is probably my favorite version of hurt bcuz the audience is like a fuckin tribute to Trent's genius and I get the chills every time I listen to this. I like to think that he did too.
This is the best version of this in my opinion. The vocals are so much better than the original studio recording also.
Regardless of his political beliefs which I believe are biased and misled. Unfortunately so many are either paid to say certain things or misled by propaganda. Too many people buy into one direction or another without any nuance or mind to discern properly.
This song is so powerful. For me, Its like being visited by God himself
a true historian of it only gets better from here....97 to 2016..Trent your songs always stick..
I've been trapped in my addiction for a long time. I've made the decision to quit a long time ago. And I've failed countless times... I've come to relalise that "my sweetest friend" means me. A part of me at least, that's been lingering around for about 13 years now, being a shadow, protecting me, from the 'real' me. It's right about time for me to say goodbye. No turning back, no exceptions, no more loopholes. It's either do or die trying. This night is only mine, and the only questions that remain: how deep does the rabbit hole goes? And who will I become, when I manage to emerge from it?
Time will tell my tale.
Well said my friend…I’m in the same boat…
Dear mr. Reznor
Many thanks for this.
I am a Phd in math in Montreal.
Your music has kept me alive.
Thank you
Good for you Lucas!
this song... hurt my heart, but cure my soul! Magnific!
What makes this song beautiful are the dissonant chords.🖤
Just saw NIN live two weeks ago in Amsterdam. Whenever they play Hurt I get sad and excited at the same time. Excited because it is an incomprehensibly touching and transforming song. Then I get sad because I know they close all their concerts, always, with Hurt. Bless this man
When I see and listen to trent reznor's version, I really feel so related to his voice, his words, his pain..
I love johnny cash's version too and also he keeps that feelings on his own way and life
But when it comes to trent, man I feel very connected to him.
I wish someday I could sit with him and just talk about life, about those lyrics, about how it was to him to fit those shoes..
What a great performer.
There go my feels
And those Columbine students.
NatFillion S you made my day😂
Johnny does an excellent version. It's awesome. Trent however owns it. He makes me cry. It's actually painful.
This is and always will be one of the most emotional and beautiful songs ever written.
One of the best live performances of all time. Listen to the crowd.
I cant decide which version I like better. They're both great. Gives me chills every time.
Man that's a powerful performance,Trent is such a awesome artist.He never fails to deliver! He's One of the few musicians that never gets old and always gives me goosebumps!
This song is that light in the darkness.
The words are as prolific as the piano keys, This song echoes through me as its timeless, ageless. Johnny cash did what we all have done with this song, somehow make it 'our own' and applicable to our own lives. That’s part of the skill Trent has, not only are his talents obvious, but they stir something in everyone that hears his work... Heartbreaking, Genuine, Raw and relatable - not written for anyone but, hauntingly personal to everyone.
because of its individuality cash´s version is one of the greatest cover-versions ever. but the original here is the real thing, the real sensation, intensity, originality.
IMO this song MUST contain that descending piano riff. This song is about being in a hole and not being able to crawl out of it and even dragging ppl down with you (due to drug addiction or whatever other destructive affliction someone may be dealing with). that piano riff is so indicative of the essence of the song. johnny cash did a moving rendition but it was nowhere as emotionally provoking as the original.
This concert was insane, best concert I have ever been too. I’d see Trent live again in a heartbeat.
My favorite song of all time. Goosebumps every time. Been listening to NIN for over 20 years
I see a lot of debate about which version is better but most of you fail to realize the fact that Johnny Cash's version is a "cover" and without the original (and permission from the artist) there would be no debate just something to think about when you debate whose is better
I remember listening to this as a teen, and I thought I understood him. I know now that I was silly. I never will.
This song destroyed me.
Hearing this song at his North American tour this year is one thing I'll never forget. I just wish I could go back and listen to it again.
Ditto. I followed them through 3 cities and cried every time.
The last verse this song hits me a lot, and thats what I'm doin now...
I feel that. The desire to start over, hoping things will be different next time.
i listen this song the first time on a version of johnny cash and i just have to say both versions are breathtaking and the lyrics do the job to make u tear up a little bit
Love NIN They are so unique Reznor back hope for a tour soon.
Thank you, Trent. For making this song, and letting millions and millions of people share this message, "I too, hurt."
i think that the fact that all those people was being there feeling emotions and watching one single person playing a wonderful song is just a miracle
I hurt myself today
To see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
The only thing that's real
The needle tears a hole
The old familiar sting
Try to kill it all away
But I remember everything
What have I become
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
I wear this crown of shit
Upon my liars chair
Full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
Beneath the stains of time
The feelings disappear
You are someone else
I am still right here
What have I become
My sweetest friend
Everyone I know
Goes away in the end
And you could have it all
My empire of dirt
I will let you down
I will make you hurt
If I could start again
A million miles away
I will keep myself
I would find a way
TECUEME 🖤
I heard this live the first time back in 1995 when NIN played at MSG. I was 21 and I was all sorts of fucked up and I needed it as angry and hopeless as it was. Now I’m 2022 at 47 this version is exactly what I need now. There’s a completely different edge to it. Somehow I’m in many ways the same screwed up girl I was back then. I just hide it a bit better now I suppose. Shit time goes by way too fast….
I'm 44 and battling the same bullshit but I find myself with some hope lately. It does go by way to fast. Most of the people I shared it with didn't get to make it through so I don't share my memories with many and sometimes I question if it was really real...
This is the perfect ending to a show. When the lights turn on I always run to a corner so no one sees me crying. 🤣
Truly introspective. Talking to myself, crying my entire heart out. Sobriety hurts so bad right now but I will find a way. Did this crap to myself, the pain is bad but it will be okay.
Don't let it win! ❤️
Trent Raznor, you're a genius !!!! Thank you again for all these emotions (20 years and it is always so beautiful)
Here are my two cents on the discussion on the which version is "better". The main difference in Original and Cashes cover is the emotion they convey. Trents version is full of self-loathing , it was written as a medium with which to get the anger at self out. Trent said it was something he wrote se he could stay sane and live through that shitty situation he was in. Cash's cover is much different. It is a grimm realization of ones own mortality. You see a dying man, a leggend at the very end of the road. The lyrics lend themselves perfectly to the reimagined purpose. Everyone he knew, from his glorious past, was either dead or dying, while he is siting there wondering if anything even remains to live for. On me Cash's version has a deeper emotianal impact. However if I was in a depression I would likely prefer the original.
+Morclaw Two more topics I would like to tough on. 1st this is not a fucking competition. imitation is the highest form of flattery , and I imagine being covered by a legend must be pretty fattering. Well , we don't have to imagine because Trent said it himself. 2nd The point that Cash replaced the crown of shit with crown of thorns to remove profanity: well the crown of shit in the original vershion is there to hammer in the self-hatred, and it accomplishes it perfectly. Hovever , selfloathing is not part of JC's hardship.Not only would it make no sense to keep it there , it would even confuse the entire message of his version.
tbh honest when I hear these 2 songs I can't help but think of these huge fight between 2 opposing factions. nin version would essentially the mid battle song with all the chaos, bloodshed etc etc. but cash 's version would essentially be the aftermath. picking up the peices and coming to terms with who they have lost and so on.
Both give me goosebumps. Beautiful song
Ur description is spot on. I have been having depression for probably 4 years for now. And I prefer the original much more.
You sir have hit the nail on the head
I didn’t know Cashes version was a cover because I heard it first, and then a few days later I heard the studio version and now I’ve heard three different versions of the same song that all invoke completely different emotions. This song is truly incredible
I can’t believe how it’s possible to love 2 versions of a song so much, for so complete different kind of reasons. What a song...
I've heard this song so many times it has lost it's ability to give me the creeps and blow my mind the way it did when I first heard it but this live version brought all those emotions back to life and makes me feel again
This is how I take this songs many versions
Newer live(NIN): Hopeful and proud that he changed
Older live(NIN): With more anger and thoughts that life is a rut
Album(NIN): Depressing look into how life can truly harm anyone and get away with it no matter who and they're circumstances
Cash version: With embarrassment and confusion that his near 50 year career made him someone he hated but couldn't change because it was to late
Very good analysis, love it!
If only I was old enough to jam this back in the day. Fcking love this
I'm not in here with you sadness, YOU'RE IN HERE WITH ME.
Wow so much emotion in those vocals
no smartphones. only lighters. beautiful.
A tear danced down my cheek and all the hairs on my arms were on end before I even pressed play.
This song means so much to me. Thank you NIN