DUNE, Part One: The Planetologist
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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2020
- The most important event in the novel, the incident that kicks everything off, happens two generations before the beginning of the book.
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"This Dungeon Master converts those zealots of D&D into zealots of Dune"
I think a lot can be learned from Dune, to improve our D&D. ;)
In just one generation!
The most politically engaging D&D campaign I ever ran was loosely based on Dune.
Giving a spin to the very name "D&D"
@@PhyreI3ird Dunes and Dehydration aka: Dark Sun but with less magic and more lasers. :)
Yes, tell me of the novel of your homeworld, Colville.
Oh, yeah! Homeworld should definitely get a moive too
But colville isn't his homeworld
Reading a story, reading an easy on a story, watching CZcamsrs theories on the story..., and now the interpretation of the story through a engineering-level game mechanic’s POV. Does Herbert ever stop being amazing? (.........., it’s a longggg story Mr. Colville, where’s the rest of the playlist at, sir!!!! Ohh, and ty.)
When Matt said "Infected with terrible purpose"... I got chills.
Papa Nurgle approves.
Then you got it, even if not consciously. "Terrible Purpose" and how it happens is the entire theme of Dune.
I thought the correct quote was "burdened with terrible purpose" :P
@@garicb9271 - Not sure, never heard of that film. But, based on Herbert's later works, the series as a whole, and his notes and interviews later, the book "Dune" set up the world and established the main characters.
The second book (I *think* it was Children of Dune, but I get the title mixed up sometimes) is the actual thesis book, exploring the dangers of messianic figures and prophets giving purpose to fanatical peoples. The later books (by Herbert himself) all just kind of explore the fallout of those events, or extrapolate on the backstory that set the stage to begin with.
It was a quote straight from the book
You're telling me this massively gripping story you just told me for 11 minutes ISN'T EVEN PART OF THE STORY-PROPPER?!
YEP. Dune is fucking insane.
And to think it starts by saying "Beginnings are the time for taking the greatest care"
Dune is literally the greatest Science Fiction masterpiece ever made and even better it is two trilogies.
@@platypuslord2399 That's.. true for certain people, but there's some caveats. It is the single greatest science fiction setting ever made if you look upon it as a world with all of its events, but as a story to read through it can be really challenging in a not so great way.
I loved all the books personally, but they can be an absolute fucking slog for most people. By no means am I trashing his writing style, but I will say that his writing style can be like reading an encyclopedia.
If you go into it expecting a wealth of information and connections which paint the picture of a vast and rich setting, you'll love it, but if you go into it expecting to read through it like any other fiction, you're probably going to hate it.
Proper, rather than propping up.
Note to self, read the appendices if the book has them.
It's where you can find out how Thorin Oakenshield got his name, and where the crown of Isildur was recovered, for example.
Matt is like the Bene Gesserit preparing his followers for the Kwisatz Haderach
1:40 Blade Runner 2049 may have flopped commercially but, in terms of quality, it was the best film I saw that year.
I truly did not think it was possible to make a good sequel to Blade Runner but I was proven so wrong.
Yea its the weakest and most unnecessary 'point' Matt has made for me in any of his videos, he spins that narrative on BR2049 frequently - I'm sort of unsure why, I know for a fact he wasn't a fan of the film - he said it wasn't for him. Making that point tells us nothing in the context of the video, it feels like a jab and a half-truth to something Matt didn't like, and its clear why it failed at the US box office, people went to see IT instead... a remake, that got green lit with a sequel before the release of the first film.
BR 2049 made 90 million in revenue, that sure was under the projected or even average of movies of similar budget during that time, but wasn't a commercial flop per se. Besides, it was based of a 30 year old movie that had eerily similar revenue projections at its release. Nobody wanted this movie, its audience small - Ford and Gosling weren't BO draws either it seemed.
Source: www.the-numbers.com/movie/Blade-Runner-2049#tab=box-office
Came here to say the same thing. The original Bladerunner "flopped" as well.
Can someone explain, without mentioning the visuals and cinematography (which were fantastic) , why the Blade Runner sequal was good? I'm not trying to be mean or contrary or anything I genuinely want to know why people liked it as I thought it was one of the most tedious, meandering and pretentious films I've seen all decade.
@@moochieman7 Someone else can go into more detail but in brief I thought it explored and extended the themes of Blade Runner in a logical direction and it didn't invalidate/ruin the original film.
In brief, it explored what it meant to be human via the journey of our protagonist.
Add to that that it isn't your typical Hollywood cookie cutter paint by numbers, it didn't try, nor want to get the widest possible viewing audience by watering down its message.
"This planethologist converts those zealots of religion into zealots of ecology".
That's the best quotation of Dune (1st volume) I've ever heard. I'm loving you even deeper Mr Coleville!
Edit: about Dune. Not from the book itself.
Is it a quotation? I don't think that the sentence is from the book. I am not sure exactly how to describe it myself. Maybe "a summary of the premise" or something similar.
Jimi Danaan My bad. I meant "quotation" as "phrase on Dune", and not from the book itself.
It wasn't clear!
I was handed this book in 8th grade by my girlfriend. She told me to read the appendices first. She was the best thing to ever happen to me. Smart women are my kryptonite.
Wow. Every time Colville leads story time on his channel, he enchants me.
The writer converts this zealot of math rocks into a zealot of narrative and perspective.
What is a "math rock?"
@@jimidanaan2213 polyhedral dice
I read this on your recommendation, and a friend of mine who bought it for me.
Changed how I thought about fantasy and sci fi and writing and.... everything.
it has a tendency to do that.
It can't be that good, can it Oo next on my list I guess
@@DerXavia It really is - it throws a lot at you to start with but you sink into the setting so quickly and so absolutely it's amazing. Honestly akin to Lord of the Rings in terms of influence and how much it changes how you think about the entire sci-fi genre.
I highly recommend the prequels , they are not as dense but have amazing payoff when the timelines converge.
I too can Matt for now I've read this book
I reread Dune the other month. It’s fresh in my mind. I want this movie to be good... this story time here was riveting. Matt, your dramatic flair is wonderful. I look forward to part two very much
I am really looking forward to the new film. Timothy Chalamet was great as a young Henry V, and I think will be a perfect Paul Atredes.
The movie they made was good. This is another sjw reboots. No one can write there own stories anymore. They had reboots but it all started with the new mad max I believe.
Anti Antifa This one is not a reboot. It is an adaptation that is trying to be as faithful as possible to the book, unlike the David Lynch movie. If you are worried about SJWs then Dune is not for you. Women feature heavily in the story and are some of the most powerful beings in the universe.
@@peterhaberstroh8017 The David Lynch movie was superb and this will be sjw brainwash. Read the books and the David Lynch movie is Top notch. Had the toys as a kid. Read the books dont rewrite a book for a movie. Dune is more for White males and thats why you want to rip it up. Its for me not you and women are not the all powerful in the books.
@@peterhaberstroh8017 Also the model work and special effects were great! The wearding modules were dope! There racist though huh?
OK, this is interesting timing. I literally just finished reading Dune for the very first time on Sunday night, and I saw that the appendix was 80 pages long, and I wondered - should I read this? Do I have to read this? I now believe that the answer to this would be "Yes, I really must."
"... I embellished it quite a bit..."
Not much. Your description is merely a concise retelling of what's scattered throughout the book, and just as engaging (at least, to an über-nerd like myself).
... I... I'm a person who has almost never liked reading. I listened to ready player one. And before that the last book I read to completion was in elementary school...
I have the book dune but haven't given it the first plunge.
I'm hooked on the book. Matt you did this to me and I thank you for it.
In some way or another you can say you have done something a bit similar to the events you described in this video with DMing. The first campaign I run will be a West marches campaign.
I thank you friend :3
noice. the sequels are decent too
It seems you've been infected with terrible purpose. Enjoy!
Four months has passed. What do you think of it now
I love that you recorded this pitch for CZcams. I have the pitch from your Twitch stream saved to my computer (Nethack! Taarna in Hell... - 4:24:00 for anyone curious) and it's great to see it here. The only thing I miss is how you described the Planetologist talking about the Ocean: When he says "It is a body of water so great, you cannot see the other side". I still get chills when you deliver that line.
Hey, I can't find that video on twitch, any pointers?
this came up as a random recommendation, good job algorithm. i read dune and saw the movie and the sci fy tv one too, but am still so pleased i hit sub.
The Kynes are two of my very favorite characters in the series. I remember adoring Liet as I read through the first time and how amazed at the complexity and interwoven stories I was when I realized that part of the appendix was about his father.
I also remember not understanding why Liet had to leave the story as he did when I read it in highschool. His job was done but why couldn't he stick around more! I get it now but boy I really did mourn that character back then haha.
Liet's fate is tragic, but he died the only way he deserve to die. At peace, in the deep desert, as new gods are born.
YES COLVILLE! I think this is your first step to becoming a second level guild navigator.
I just started listening to the audiobooks about a month ago, I’m 39 so I’m real late to the party, but I’m glad I finally did. I had no idea what I was missing
Give me DUNE, Part Two:. . . PLEASE!
1: Love the Guild symbol shirt
2: Happy to hear someone else pronounce Denis Villeneuve correctly. It's rare.
3: Loved your scene suggestions for the Dune film.
I've never had any interest in Dune, ever. Now after listening to this, I will read the book. This is the highest praise I could possibly give to this video.
I am beyond excited for this man to tell us his ideas about one of my favorite books of all time.
Dune is my favourite book, series and has my favourite quote. “Fear is the mind killer” Thanks for doing a video on this!
Blade Runner: 2049 was a box office flop, sure. But it is a phenomenal movie and a worthy sequel. It will stand the test of time as the first one did.
I've heard it called one of the best sequels of all time. Financial success is never an indication of quality though, as demonstraighted by how long james camerons Avatar was the highest grossing film.
Yes, I agree. I was watching on reddit then came here to comment what you said! I am kinda 'glad' it was a box office flop because that means Villeneuve is willing to create something that is not necessarily that interesting for mainstream audiences for the sake of GOOD storytelling.
@@colbyboucher6391 he said it had moments he really liked, and that it's not a bad movie by any means, it just wasn't for him
Matt Collville, you may be aware that you are very good with words. I'm going to the book shop tomorrow, first time in a couple years. Thanks
It's been 6 months soon....that's too long to wait for part two :'( You did a really good job peaking my interest.
Love your channel Matthew :) Hope you are doing well
Love hearing you talk about DUNE, your passion shines through so strongly.
Matt Colville, the man with the most talkative eyebrows of the era.
My God Matt, I could listen to you talk about Dune all day. Bravo!
Please, for the love of god I'm dyin'. It's been a month and a half since you put anything new out and I've already watched the whole running the game series four times _and_ even finally watched the collabris streams through.
I'm itchin' man, I'm itchin' reel bad.
*Scratches neck and and begins rocking*
Dude, I love listening to you talk about subjects for which you have a passion. Your grab my attention each and every time. I just finished listening to the Dune audiobook, and already you make me want to go back and read it all over again. Thanks for the superb content.
Dude... Give us part 2, please! I am currently reading Dune for the first time because of this video!!
I want more Matt Colville summarizes Books the Series The Movie
I've had Dune sitting on my book shelf for years and haven't gotten around to it. Seems like I ought to.
Ditto.
You won't regret it!
If you dont mind spoilers, czcams.com/play/PLRXGGVBzHLUcHQ7hqlPCBfGOE_keG3HC9.html breaks down the whole series and explains a lot, which got me a lot more interested in it. There are also a lot of spoiler free videos on dune too
Frank Herbert novels tend to follow a common pattern. There is a lot of atmosphere, a vast amount of fascinating world building, and politics galore --- with numerous actors all trying to pursue their own agendas, and all constrained by their particular strengths and weaknesses. It is incredibly immersive and largely explains the appeals of his writing.
Then in the last 20 pages, everybody starts shooting at one another and a miracle happens, not seldom a literal deus ex machina.
I've read the book many times and hear the planetology history told by Matt on several occasions, and I got chills every time.
Is that a Navigator's Guild shirt? I've enjoyed both ye olde movie and the sci-fi miniseries. I had no idea another go is in the works.
My daughter, sadly, finds both versions terribly boring (she grew up HP/Twilight) so it looks like I’ll be seeing this one alone...
@@williamderkatzen8987 - She probably just needs time to mature. Dune is a thinking person's drama. There are so many layers that a casual consumer will be bored.
Fear not. Keep it on the periphery of her awareness, and one day she'll get there. The beauty of Dune is that, when the time comes, it'll be just as fun as if you'd seen it together the day it first came out.
@@bordenfleetwood5773 I can see that perspective. I tried to read Dune in eighth grade, and it was like reading A Tale of Two Cities (Better than Ambien!) and only when I went back at it after high school was I able to first of all finish it, and second of all truly appreciate it. My ability to absorb/care about the following books died about halfway through Chapterhouse.
@@MonkeyJedi99 - You got further than I did! Lol.
I stopped a few chapter into Children of Dune. The setting is beautiful and iconic, and I'm always on the lookout for new Dune stuff, but the source books...
It's classically written Hard SciFi, which means the author had a sociological or societal narrative that he wanted to press upon the reader. That's honestly okay, but it means that I tend to just stick with the original book, or look for the works by later authors in the same universe.
@@bordenfleetwood5773 everyone stalls on Children of Dune. You just have to power through.
No joke, shortly after getting the audio book of Dune (Like... 24 hours after), you released your video. Spookin' me, Mr. Colville... Had to wait until I finished it before watching.
Awesome book by the way. Definitely think it would make an awesome campaign setting. As far as movies go, the books feel like they would be better as a series a la Game of Thrones.
Just saying, I've watched this video more than once... and this is the "first" video.
Matt, I love you and I want the #2 through greatness, just saying.
Many
With some of the Dune movie stuff starting to seep out, it reminded me.... What happened to Matt's Dune video series?!
I need that Part 2, where is it?!
After I read all of the Frank Herbert novels from the library, I was compelled to read the authors that were sitting on the shelf either side of the Dune saga. I was so desperate a teenager, I had to read James Herriot's vet novels and James Herbert's horror novels, trying to scratch that itch. What an amazing idea - a library. Seeing my plight, my librarian then showed me the catalogues and explained I could order in books from other libraries .A librarian changed my life.
Matt, your love of Sci Fi and feudalism makes me wonder: Would you like the universe of Battetech? FTL travel, feudal houses, lost technology, fallen empires, and giant stompy robots.
My dyslexia makes reading novels difficult. I would, however, listen for DAYS to Matt reading Dune.
The speed at which Matt narrates means you would probably only need 15 minutes to listen to the full book.
I wish the audio book for dune wasn't an audio drama I dont know why but I cant listen to audio drama. It too jarring. But I'd pay to get matt to read dune. Can that be a goal on the next kickstarter
I was really hoping you'd follow "some failed" with "others failed spectacularly"
this story is why i LOVE dune... a simple misunderstanding can change the entire universe and millions of peoples lives forever... 1 wrong word, 1 motion, anything can become profound... frank herbert is an amazing writer, period.
This video is how I've gotten 3 different friends to read Dune
Do you know that feeling when something makes you happy and you realize that you hadn't actually felt happy for days? That's how I felt with this video, thanks man, I've been waiting quite a while for this video.
The Spice must flow....
After seeing this, I went and got the dune board game and listened to the audiobook. I finally understand the hype! One of the coolest stories I’ve seen in sci-fi!
Love Dune. I was lucky enough to have known him, was a friend of my father's. I remember walking in the woods with him, picking mushrooms for the dinner we had at his house.
What you see here, my friends, is called the gift of storytelling. Mr. Herbert was not a bad storyteller either.
Yo Colville I can’t wait for the next one... but it’s been a month mate
I have never read this book, and this story brought me to tears.
I finished Dune a few days ago, and remembered that I had wanted to watch this video afterwards. I was wondering when the hell this was all described (perhaps of of those other Dune books?) and then he said at the end of the video that it was in the appendices, "which I suspect many readers skipped." Uhh... yep... you got me.
MATT. This was so good. You have a brilliant way of telling stories. I can't wait for more of these. I've never read Dune, but this made me start reading it.
Also, I really want to see MCDM get a Dune license and make a new Dune RPG game. Bring on the Kickstarter!
It’s kinda funny that I’ve heard you tell this story a million times :p
And yet, like those kids you new it would change your life, so, you listened and became a zealot of matt colville.
Matt, please continue this series. I am deeply immersed now.
MATT!!! We NEED Part Two! Before it's too late! Please don't keep us waiting like GRRM is!
Waiting for more of these! Just finished the second part of book one.
Dude you do some kinda magic when you tell stories like this... also i need to read Dune again.
your telling literally made me fall to my knees in tears when the assassin removed himself. I know it sounds idealistic, but I really think this is a lesson today can learn a lot from. We need more planetologists here...
When Matt gets this into explaining stories to me, I get goosebumps.
WHERE IS PART TWO
Thank you I've just finished dune and I love hearing you talk about dune.
I love Dune and I love this video! Can't wait for more of them!
That was gripping. You summarised the magic of the premise of Dune.
And in 11 minutes, Matt got me interested in Dune again. Amazing Storyteller and Critic.
Only a few seconds in, and I'm already excited! I love this book so much.
I grew up with 40k (age 8 onwards) and lapped up that lore to a ridiculous level.
Then I read Dune at age 30, and it was like finding out Santa didn't exist; I discovered where almost all of 40k had come from!
It's an incredible book though, and I thoroughly enjoyed the sequel.
I love how charged and excited Matt is about this subject, it's infectious. Looking forward with anticipation for more videos like this and further exploration of the topic.
Can't wait for more episodes! Matt is a phenomenal storyteller.
When are we getting Part two!? This was excellent story telling!
I’ve been waiting so long for you to do a deep delve into one of my favorite book series! I’m so excited to see what else you talk about. Thank you.
I’ve heard you tell this story many times on stream. It never gets old. I am glad to have it here on CZcams now so the whole gang gets to hear it.
Hey Matt, have you ever thought about talking with the folks that organize TED Talks? I feel like you have so many amazing gems of advice on reading, writing, dreaming, and living a creative life that could really enrich the world at large. Obviously, you are a busy man running MCDM and this channel, but what are your thoughts?
I remember seeing this book in my parents library and wondering about the cover art but never touching it. I am now infected with a terrible purpose!
Thank CZcams for recommending this video to me. I love Dune, it's one of my favorite Sci-fi novels/series. I've never heard about your channel until I saw this video on my feed and was instantly hooked! I really like your "prologue" and can't wait to hear more!
This has been my favorite story every time Matt told it on stream. Thanks for making this Video, now I don't have to go through old streams to find it again. And I can send it to my friends!
oh my god i have to read this book, my eyes are in tears.
I hope these come out relatively regularly. I’ve never read the books(tried but couldn’t make it through) and I’d like to have a deeper understanding going into the movie.
Dude, your description of the events are epic. I loved it. Cant wait to watch the next part.
This was amazing!!! Keep showing us your passion Matt, we live for it!
"The first Dune video..." Ttly grinning...
I think it’s time for the second and third parts, Matthew.
Had to rewatch just once more since the new video came out today, and every time I'm just enthralled by your telling of these events!
Now I'm off to watch the new one 🤩
I love your retelling of this incident! You made it come so much alive, made it so real and present.
I especially love your telling of the children - you got me so caught up that I could believe that the dream took hold in that single generation.
Also, your telling of the suicide, so much more satisfying than what I remember in the book - not something mystical in itself but a guy caught up in his own beliefs and modalities whose actions were a response to how his mind was reacting.
I know you've been busy with so much other important stuff...but this will be an amazing series when or if it ever gets finished
Finally! I'm early for a video, and a one on dune at that.
Jesus, Matt, I had goosebumps near the end there.
Dune has been one of my favourite stories for... Well, pretty much since I was fifteen as well and I actually re-read it just a few weeks ago. I can't wait for more of your videos on it.
Matthew I honestly want to thank you for your amazing videos. I began watching your videos when you were doing the Running the Game number 30-ish and have ever kept watching your videos whenever a new one is up.
I thank you because, at my 20 years of age, I had never found something that spiked as much awe as the way you narrate things does. I was a DM before watching your videos, but only after them I realized how much of a wonderful thing it is and I aspire to be such a good narrator and to tell things in such a moving manner for my friends as you are for your viewers.
Thanks Matt, you're great.
When is the next part coming out? Need a hand with this?
Yes would love more of this.
It's out now. Finally
If you haven’t already read them, I’d recommend Brandon Sanderson’s Stormlight Archives for another series with a strong ecological construction that informs the shape of the myriad societies of the books’ planet, Roshar.
You kind of have to have faith through the first 1,000 pages that the series is going somewhere, but once you get there and start to glimpse behind the curtain, it’s a fascinating world and story.
Personally, i love the characters in the story so i didn't feel like i needed it to go anywhere, just let me follow Cal and Shallan's story
Neil Anderson Agreed. Kaladin easily carries the narrative through the first 1000 pages.
Just as a clarification, I agree and loved the characters as well (hence why I continued reading). But unlike some of his other work, Mistborn for example, the Stormlight Archives are much slower in building toward the overarching narrative by comparison. I only highlight this issue in hopes that people giving the series a try won’t be dissuaded by the slower pacing (when compared to most contemporary fantasy fiction, that is).
Sanderson makes great worlds but his writing is painful. I have read the Stormlight archives so far but the prose always make me cringe.
aguyfromnothere That’s a fair critic. His prose are more functional than beautiful, but as you said, he makes fascinating worlds, and for that reason I mention his work in relation to the opening of this video. If someone was looking for a more prose centric author, I’d recommend the likes of Patrick Rothfuss or Anne Rice.
Listening to this again after watching the movie certainly brings into perspective some of the things which happened.
More please!!! Like one or two a day would be great!
good shirt choice
I've just had my mind blown apart...
Do wear the shield next time.
So glad you're doing this series, I knew of dune and even watched the more recent iteration with my dad when I was younger, but never touched the books until I saw yall playing the game, and the political depth and vivid world drew me in so I finally read the book and now am planning to try and work my way through all of them. I love your insight and something about listening to someone who loves something talk about that thing gets me excited to see it myself.
So thank you. Do more of these please, I enjoy them
This has been in my audible list for forever but I haven't listened to it yet. You just sold me.