Constructing the carnyx
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2016
- Silversmith and blacksmith John Creed explains how he constructed a replica of the Deskford carnyx, an Iron Age war trumpet that dates from 80-200AD.
The Deskford carnyx and the replica was part of the Celts exhibition at the National Museum of Scotland in 2016. Find out more at www.nms.ac.uk/celts
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“To make such a supreme object”
You can tell this man has nothing but admiration for the craft and the beautiful and awe inspiring instrument he created.
I could watch an entire series on this
Dear p.
👍👌👏 Me too, definitely!
Best regards, luck and health.
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I like how, while he's saying the line about using technology exactly like that of 2000 years ago, it show's him using a blow torch 😄
And he uses lathe.
Back then, they used a small dragon.
Their is always at least one of you muppets usually commenting on these types of videos. Do yourself a big favour "get a life".
I like how this old guy gets praise everywhere else but in this video, everyone calls him a damn liar and shit. Are you people okay?
Fabulous work, but as a fellow maker and restorer of such period contrivances and armour, may I respectfully ask; where are the tusks? Surely a Boar without tusks would similarly be an Eagle without wings? If it was argued that "It wasn't found with tusks" then I would wager they were either robbed (especially as these were worn as talisman) at point of loss/fell out beforehand or... as doubtless real tusks were used they have long since gone as had the leather strap-work (other organic material). A genuine question from a genuine restorer/maker. Thank you and best wishes. ⚒️
Excellent point!
@@brucekuehn4031 Thank you Bruce. Given the hate I have been receiving on another post concerning 'The missing soft-palate' /tusks I am now more determined than ever to practically explore this. When things got heated on the other video, I stated that by the same logic, to find ANYTHING and assume that nothing organic was there is to find a human skeleton and then suggest that we did not have skin 2000 years ago! (To exaggerate a point for comic effect to try and illustrate a point).
I am prepared to state my 30 year reputation upon this... Which I do not think an arrogant thing to say, but the most noble of statements!
That said, in the future I will not risk 'sharing' a career of experience on another's channel. I will save it for my own.
Sadly it would appear that a lot of folk now think that watching Game of Thrones, Lord of the Rings or playing Skyrim equates to experience in the field.
I am NEVER asking people to believe me, I only ever ask people to question the logic behind what they have historically been told. " Who told you that?" Ok he/she might have removed one from the earth, but how many has he/she dismantled and restored, re-jiggled and repaired... THOUSANDS of hours spent trying to get into the headspace of the now long dead maker so as to fabricate that missing lame/hinge/bronze widget so as to make is all joyfully cascade into place. How many medieval helmets have they heated on the forge only to be forced to sit down after being intoxicated by the smell of the hair of the wearer? etc etc
My problem is... I love to write! 😂😂😂🧐, STOP 🚫
Best wishes for a better New Year mon ami. From me and all the mice in the workshop. 🧐⚒️🐀🐁🐀🐁
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@@nigelcarren I agree nigel. Any updates?
The Tintignac Carnyx and depictions on the Gundestrup cauldron both point to a tusk-less carnyx my good sir
Didn't know the Celts had lathes at their disposal.
They're pretty old so they might have en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lathe#History
@@eedwardgrey2 Wow, I had no idea they were that old! Thank you.
@@eedwardgrey2 Not a metal turning lathe, that wasn't invented till the 19th century
@@Tonks143 thanks for that clarification
@@Tonks143 the carnyx was probably wood and horn back then..
What a beautiful thing. And what a pleasure to see such a craftsman at work making it. (It also sounds as good as it looks.)
What I find sad is that I couldn't find in the entirety of the internet a cross-section, or any article on how they actually functioned and the best thing I found is this video 0:45.
played, by the same guy: czcams.com/video/zSLsTf2TH-Y/video.html&ab_channel=JohnWhiting
@@geriko29 That's a different John
The University of Liverpool would have plans of them.
I could listen to the Dude talk all night.
interesting! Thanks. Cheers!
and the dimensions for rebuilding are where? I would like one for myself
Any theories that the alphorn is related?
man wish there was a way to buy it. anyone know any places where i could buy a replica online?
Wrath Redoran yeah I really want one too.
@@tedhuggins764 www.noricum.de/kelten/carnyx/
costs up to 1600€
@strange banana finding blueprints is hard!
Now how much is one of these
I wish I could own a replica reproduction of one. No luck finding any at all for sale
Check on wish they got chinese knockoffs of everything. Lol.
@@RobD-jq7ry wish will steal your credit card information along with your google account.
You can commission a silversmith or a blacksmith to make one for you, though you'd probably have to be rich to even afford the commission that men like these charge.
Did ancient celts really have lathes though?
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I want one. ovo
Yes, but what does it sound like?
czcams.com/video/lVFGT2NX-YQ/video.html Quite eary. Imagine hearing this as day breaks and the mists are still ow to the ground and their army is creeping toward you.
was the carnyx eventually replaced by the trumpet?
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its likely that the carnyx was not replaced but destroyed. the romans had a hand in ending its use i would think.
why cant i find one to buy anywhere? :(
Because this instrument has been lost for 2000 years.
They are only recently being recreated.
And considering it is a very precisely made and niche instrument, i doubt they are widespread enough for major companies to be mass-producing them.
Hardly anyone knows about this instrument other than cultural and musical historians.
www.noricum.de/kelten/carnyx/ found this commented elsewhere. Obviously quite a chunk of change and i know 0 about this company, but it is available for purchase
@@Justin-ib2iz thanksa lot for finding it. 1.5k sadly is a bit over my budget for what boils down to: a very cool Didgeridoo.
on to plan B: asking that dude who plays it for some samples.
Dont think the Celts had Lathes , did anyone actually make it exactly by the same process the Celts made it ???
2:29 i dont think they had mills and blowtorches but i get the point
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@@riendecacheriendesecret4202 no blowtorch to be seen
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I thought the Carnyx was supposed to be speaking at first 😂
That scarf is not doing you any favors bus
Yup, ancient celts head lathes and blow torches. Lol. That’s what he said, they made it using same techniques. Lol
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an Englishman's interpretation of a Celtic ancient instrument, magic :p
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The celts were not just on this island. They stretched across what is now europe. Very underestimated by us.
try again, practice make perfect
Is this the lump fish tiktok guy?
Too much modern tools employed here to call this "a reconstruction" or replica. Especially the metal lathe. Can't agree.
The lathe has been in use since at least 1300 BCE. If you really want to be picky, what's probably more historically inaccurate is the large steel forming stake he was using. This piece is technically challenging and very well executed, and I personally don't object to some approximation/modern improvements in hand-tools were used to bring it into the world.
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True Gaul (celt)
I call bullshit due to the fact that these guys are using modern instruments so they aren’t made the same!