CHEAPEST Lithium Conversion for old power tools $20 including Battery

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  • čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
  • Old Nicad NiMH tools given a second chance at life.
    Stuff I used in the video:
    Security torx for dissembling most battery packs: amzn.to/44ityyP
    BASIC soldering iron kit under $10: amzn.to/3xTeYBx
    Warrior Battery Drill kit at you local Harbor Freight.
    After Thoughts about the Video: Only downfall too using the Warrior battery is 1.3ah(in the kit) and 1.5ah are the only off the shelf options. Can't beat the price for this though especially when you get it on sale for $19.99.
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Komentáře • 219

  • @MusicLover-vq3ol
    @MusicLover-vq3ol Před 2 měsíci +27

    practical, this guy never wastes our time

  • @jacobkane3935
    @jacobkane3935 Před 2 měsíci +21

    You are a true treasure for the old school make it work handyman type. Keeping perfectly good stuff working rather than loading landfills with more crap

  • @chetleonard169
    @chetleonard169 Před 2 měsíci +39

    this should go viral, all these different battery formats are annoying AF

    • @icekohl
      @icekohl Před 2 měsíci +1

      Not saying it's going to happen but, it could happen. The EU has new regulations about batteries that require that they be user replaceable. Considering that the regulation they passed earlier forced Apple's hand to put USB C on the iPhone, it's not unthinkable that they may extend their regulation on batteries to mandate a standardized form factor for tool batteries. There could be plenty of reasons tool companies would appose it but, if any new regulation was narrow enough that it simply meant that they had to connect in a standardized fashion, I could see it being adopted. Being able to choose, the best (for your purpose) tool and then having the companies have to actually compete to make the best (for your purpose) batteries would be a welcome change in my opinion.

    • @sendit1158
      @sendit1158 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Amazon sells every brand adapter for every model battery, porter cable to dewat or makita to dewalt or anything, dewalt power wheels adapters,

    • @emort6
      @emort6 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@sendit1158 That's not true.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +4

      @sendit1158 Adapters only cover about 1/4 of what's out there. Guys making custom 3D printed ones at home might cover 1/16 of some odd balls.

    • @emort6
      @emort6 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@sixtyfiveford That's true, I can't find an adapter for my Milwaukee 14.4 volt drill or my Porter Cable 18 volt tools.

  • @ThacMan
    @ThacMan Před 2 měsíci +16

    This what is great about CZcams. You can learn useful things and get some great entertainment. Ginger catching snowflakes and living the best dogs life. Thanks for the video brother.

  • @ThriftyToolShed
    @ThriftyToolShed Před 2 měsíci +14

    So glad I am not the only one that enjoys keeping the older tools going!
    I like it! 👍

    • @ThatJerkFromCali
      @ThatJerkFromCali Před 2 měsíci

      Your wife should concur

    • @stringlarson1247
      @stringlarson1247 Před měsícem

      Heh. It's a big community. I'm re-building a 1950's industrial bench grinder I got from an old factory. Delta? Heavy AF.
      Converting a 1940's Craftsman Drill press to be a small milling machine.

    • @ThriftyToolShed
      @ThriftyToolShed Před měsícem

      @@stringlarson1247 Awesome!

  • @jamesblackwell5141
    @jamesblackwell5141 Před 2 měsíci +15

    I've 3D printed several adapters for old drills that I've bought at thrift stores. You can really go down a rabbit hole converting old drills to lithium batteries. Why spend $100 bucks or more for a new drill when you can spend $20 bucks revamping an old one!

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Před měsícem +3

      Depends on what you need out of your drill. I mean if you hardly ever use it for hobbies, sure, save a buck. However, there are substantial drawbacks, some of which may be deal breakers for people serious about their tools.
      1) Adapters are clunky and tend to increase tool size and some prevent it from balancing on the bottom of the battery to stand upright. Drop the tool and odds are much higher you'll break the adapter than the tool if it didn't have one.
      2) Adapters often limit current. It may not matter to you, but why shouldn't it, if you have a concern what power you'd get with a new tool for your money, then you have to consider that you may be sacrificing performance to save a buck? Also if the contacts don't fit perfectly, they can overheat and damage the tool, the adapter, or the battery.
      3) Similarly, you usually sacrifice either performance or runtime or both, reusing some half worn out old brushless tool compared to a modern brushless.
      4) Cheap/generic tools tend to have cheap/generic batteries with lower capacity, and often fewer recharge cycles if not immediate loss of performance. You might literally get less than half the life out of the frankenstein-tool before it drops below an acceptable performance level to reach for it to use. If you have to reach for something else instead, what good was it besides (in the case of a drill) a bulky screwdriver? Granted, a spare cordless screwdriver isn't the worst thing to have, but the generic tool may also have a crappy low quality and slow charger.
      5) Even if none of the above matter to you, then you are still starting with a partially worn out drill, and if doing what this guy in the video did, carelessly slapping an 18V battery into a drill rated for less, then you may burn it out, and depending on whether the battery itself has a BMS circuit built in (some have it in the tool instead), it might ruin the battery the first time it is drained too low.
      I'm not suggesting that there aren't any good candidates to update to a Li-Ion battery, just that it's not as simple as merely saving $80 without a lot of drawbacks to get there. I didn't even mention what happens if you get attacked by zombies and try to drill their brains out, only to find that your DIY adapter let the battery slip out.
      Frankly, I avoided most of this by switching to Ryobi, who has used the same battery format ever since they started making 18V tools. Their quality and performance has increased greatly over the past 15 years and while not quite up to contractor grade standards, the price isn't at contractor grade levels either, especially not the batteries which do have a BMS protection circuit built in.

  • @young11984
    @young11984 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Dog catching snow had me lmao😂

  • @jeffnewbill5599
    @jeffnewbill5599 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Craftsman 19.2 actually ended the line running lithium batteries, for about 5 years. You can buy aftermarket li-ion batteries for them that are probably just as good as those warrior batteries.

  • @tedbastwock3810
    @tedbastwock3810 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Im never disappointed when I stop in for one of your videos, great info here, thanks!!

  • @funkysod
    @funkysod Před 2 měsíci +4

    Got 25 year old hand me down makitas, converted to lithium about 5 years ago. All my power tools use the same cheap batterys. Some of the old ones was 12. No problem with 20 v. Thanks for making stuff like this available to more people. Edit: I haven't found a need to scrap any new machines to convert. I have modded the old machines using 3d printed parts in some cases. But my first ones where made by layers using thin playwood. Still going strong!

  • @glenns5627
    @glenns5627 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Loving Wife bought me a whole nice Sears Ni-cad set decades ago, which as all Ni-cad crap batteries lasted about 6 months. Batteries were hard-to-get/expensive so I mothballed the set. Now I'll Moe-size those old batteries and bring my Sears set back to life! TY Very Much, Sir! Oh and give Ginger an extra snowflake, for me!

  • @DoingItCheap
    @DoingItCheap Před 2 měsíci +2

    Gotta love DoingItCheap !!! LOL !!! Tater Tot says "Woof, Woof to Ginger!"

  • @oxmachines
    @oxmachines Před 2 měsíci +9

    My favorite guy, and girl (dog). If you were stuck on a island this guy would be you bestie. 👍🏻⭕️❌

  • @robertmailhos8159
    @robertmailhos8159 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Nice to save all of these Old school battery powered tools there sixty five Ford

  • @jons2447
    @jons2447 Před 2 měsíci +1

    *"THANK YOU!* *"THANK YOU!* *"THANK YOU!*
    Man, you are a GENIUS!
    I got 4 or 5, maybe SIX, old cordless drills that the batteries or the charger died.
    I've been trying to find some way to power the old drills (2 or 3 Craftsman tools).
    NONE of the EV/battery mavens have been any help at all & I tried 3 or 4.
    The tools are really good about running on all kinds of voltages, they only pull what they need.
    I used to pull wrenches so I know how hard it is & how 'creative' you have to be.
    So I wanted to let you know I for one really APPRECIATE your video.
    Best wishes!
    Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!
    BTW, I started watching because I had a '66 Ford pickup.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +1

      That's awesome. I'm glad you liked the video.
      Can't beat an old Ford pickup. I have a 65 and a 66. One day I'll find time to paint the 65 and get it out of body work/paint prison.

  • @DoingItCheap
    @DoingItCheap Před 2 měsíci

    That is too much snow for this old man !! Brr cold !!

  • @dperreno
    @dperreno Před 2 měsíci +1

    I converted 2 old Porter Cable cordless drills (a 12V and a 14.4V) this way to use the newer 20V Lithium batteries. Worked on the 14.4V circular saw too! No problems running the lower voltage tools using the higher voltage batteries.

  • @N.Cognito
    @N.Cognito Před 2 měsíci +10

    If you have a 3d printer or access to one you can also print the adapters for pennies.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +9

      3d printing is the easy part. It's the 20hrs of cad work to design a custom adapter because it's not on thingyverse.

    • @N.Cognito
      @N.Cognito Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@sixtyfiveford you got me there. Love the channel Moe, keep it up.

    • @RejectReality97
      @RejectReality97 Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@sixtyfivefordlol my bosses son has a 3d printer and my boss says "he can print anything" when talking about a broken plastic latch for my craftsman tool case. I asked if his son had a 3d scanner and he said no. Then I asked if he does cad parts, no again.
      Like yeah, he can download a file and hit print, big whoop 😂😂😂

  • @ShedTV
    @ShedTV Před 2 měsíci +2

    I've got a dead Makita LXT drill, good batteries and what was a very useful store-brand floodlight with a dead battery. Thanks Moe, I now have a plan!

  • @SilvasSmallMining
    @SilvasSmallMining Před 2 měsíci +2

    Nice work! I’ve been watching your channel for a long time now. You got some sweet ass builds.
    Keep up the great work!
    Take care.

  • @itkills9251
    @itkills9251 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dude you are a gem of a channel. Love all your content and creativity. You give a non techy but hands on guy like me hope I can do modifications and whatnot too. Thanks

  • @hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987
    @hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Had that craftsman set when i started as an electrician

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +3

      That Makita in the video was my first cordless tool in 1995. I remember it was underwhelming as far as power goes.

  • @ragdolltrucking
    @ragdolltrucking Před 2 měsíci +3

    I did this when my matco impact died, i grafted the matco handle onto the m12 handle and it worked great

    • @stringlarson1247
      @stringlarson1247 Před měsícem

      I love the M12 stuff because of the 2 different battery pack sizes. I rarely use my 18v stuff anymore.

  • @slaplapdog
    @slaplapdog Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just picked up an old school battery Dewalt allsaw, for 5 bucks, with the hope to convert it to a new system, Ryobi preferably.
    They don't seem to make adaptors to allow use of Ryobi batteries on other tools, but you have shown me the way!

  • @Anonymous-vr9hp
    @Anonymous-vr9hp Před 2 měsíci +2

    I used an old AC power cord to connect to my old drill, then two alligator clips to connect to any battery in a truck, tractor, 4wheeler. Just another option that was free.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Absolutely. Actually have an old Makita somewhere that I did that with.

  • @keithfromkanada5401
    @keithfromkanada5401 Před 2 měsíci

    You are a modern mad scientist ! Love the repurposing of things you do.

  • @tedz74
    @tedz74 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The nice thing about adapting old drills to the Ridgid platform is the battery does have a low voltage cutoff. Same with Ryobi (but their form factor is less apt to be adapted).

  • @zendell37
    @zendell37 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I'll say it. The Craftsman c3 line isn't retro. Sadly gone, but not forgotten. One of the first brushless battery powered tools I'd ever seen. I was super excited for it coming from the remote controlled world. I still have and use it. Albeit now I use battery adapters, usually.

  • @dezbesser6935
    @dezbesser6935 Před 2 měsíci

    I'm in love with that Garage

  • @flashgordon6238
    @flashgordon6238 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Just what I was looking for! Got a nice Porter Cable drill just like Norm used on New Yankee Workshop- waiting for conversion. Used to get the HF Nicad 18 volt batteries on sale. They were Chicago Electric back then. I used those to rebuild several Black and Decker packs for 18V hedge trimmers and B&D Alligator loppers. Might go Lithium Ion for those...

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Years ago I used to salvage those cells out of the Chicago electric as well. They didn't last too long but they worked. Lithium is such a great upgrade.

  • @konstantinusstoyanov9749
    @konstantinusstoyanov9749 Před 2 měsíci

    As always, very creative, thank you

  • @yodasbff3395
    @yodasbff3395 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I see Ginger is still catching snow flackes. We haven't seen any new video of Ginger in awile, I hope she is okay. Another great video, thanks for sharing 👍.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +4

      She's Great. I just didn't have a current clip this week. The snow catching was just 2 weeks ago.

  • @savage6394
    @savage6394 Před 2 měsíci +7

    I built a paint spinner, It works absolutely phenomenally. I refuse to waste another second of my life manually shaking spray paint cans.

  • @turbo5483
    @turbo5483 Před měsícem

    12:38 Dog catching snow 😂😂😂

  • @snowbert2650
    @snowbert2650 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I did that with the same 2 portercable drills but I hardwired the Nimh batteries in and glued the pack to the drill with GOOP and a few others too.. Didn't try lithium fire hazard. Another thing is drill some 3/8 holes in the pack for ventilation

  • @harkbelial
    @harkbelial Před 2 měsíci +1

    When changing batteries make sure to throw old Ni-Cad into your local lake, creek or river to feed the fishes.

  • @chipperkeithmgb
    @chipperkeithmgb Před 2 měsíci

    Fantastic work

  • @jack-terry
    @jack-terry Před 2 měsíci

    I've made many of those paint can shakers for guys, all of them thank you, sixtyfiveford

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      It's because you made them. That makes them awesome.

  • @bigredbeard65
    @bigredbeard65 Před měsícem

    Different approach than the way I do them, I just use the junk battery pack and put in some contacts in the old pack for my adapters. Always good to see a different approach to a common problem though.

  • @GreaseMonkGarage
    @GreaseMonkGarage Před měsícem

    I looooove this channel. This dudes son is lucky. Fuck i wish my pops passed this level of ingenuity to me

  • @MikeyMack303
    @MikeyMack303 Před měsícem

    Great video, Moe. Thanks.

  • @V8SKULLS
    @V8SKULLS Před 2 měsíci

    Brother Love The Way You Think.!, very Useful, I have a Ton of the older Dewalt Nicad platform tools and a bunch of Ridgid lithium batteries & 2 chargers . I bought a job radio a while back, and need batteries for it. Now I know what to do with those batteries for all those tools
    That you for the info. AKA kick in the ass to get up and "Just Do it.......!
    Thank you brother, ALWAYS THINKING OUT OF THE BOX
    be safe, and love for your girl❤ beautiful baby girl

  • @Asomesauc
    @Asomesauc Před 2 měsíci

    Great video as always

  • @williamwilliams7706
    @williamwilliams7706 Před měsícem

    This is why a mediocre but decent tool like Ryobi is a good tool. They have not changed their 18+ system for 20 years and when they converted from NiCad to lithium they kept the same 18+ footprint. Nice job here. Thanks

  • @chipperkeithmgb
    @chipperkeithmgb Před 2 měsíci

    Lovely shop you have

  • @adammosher1115
    @adammosher1115 Před 2 měsíci

    I did it to the Chicago electric brand that harbor freight had but I bought a piece of Amazon now it runs on a 24 kobalt battery and the difference is amazing in power

  • @rameshpersaud7131
    @rameshpersaud7131 Před 2 měsíci

    Keep up the good work great video

  • @davecl6529
    @davecl6529 Před měsícem

    brilliant! - will go breathe some new life into some NiMh Snap-On impact drives taking up drawer space. Bought some adapters from Temu to use Dewalt batteries as the donor ;-). Your early termination of cheap new drills that were factory made out of pure sadness to recycle the charger and the battery is however brilliant.

  • @chumleye1112
    @chumleye1112 Před 2 měsíci

    Genius. Thanks

  • @ronyerke9250
    @ronyerke9250 Před měsícem

    Full Steam Design channel has a cool way to shake up a spray paint can. He modified a bar clamp to fit into a reciprocating saw. Then put a can in the jaws. Take a look.

  • @cmeier7560
    @cmeier7560 Před 2 měsíci

    You can find free 3D printable NiMH-to-LiPo adapters for a lot of different older power tool battery systems on Thingiverse or Printables (on the LiPo side, Makita seems popular, as is Parkside especially here in Europe). So if you have access to a 3D printer and some extra spade connectors you don't always need to cut up a "new" tool to get your old tools running again. I had good success getting old DeWalt 14.4V NiMH tools running on 18V Parkside LiPos this way.

  • @2LateIWon
    @2LateIWon Před 2 měsíci

    Aww nice love it

  • @timmarkowicz779
    @timmarkowicz779 Před 27 dny

    My new Ryobi lithium batteries pop right into my old Ryobi tools. Done!

  • @samstone2007
    @samstone2007 Před 2 měsíci

    Love it

  • @roberthutchison315
    @roberthutchison315 Před 2 měsíci

    Sweet info Moe!

  • @Pete.Ty1
    @Pete.Ty1 Před 2 měsíci

    👍👍👍. Thank you

  • @ww321
    @ww321 Před 2 měsíci

    That's a good deal on batteries. Years ago I went to li-po rc batteries. A 3000mah 18v was like $35. 2200mah 12v were like $6.50. Lol I got 12 of them. I must have about 20 battery operated tools with converted battery packs. I'm still looking for a battery operated ratchet like you did. Thanks for the videos.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Those lipo RC batteries are amazingly powerful.

  • @RobertDickens2002
    @RobertDickens2002 Před měsícem

    If im not mistaken the low voltage cut off is built into the battery unless that warrior battery is just that cheap

  • @BA-zy2kb
    @BA-zy2kb Před 2 měsíci

    👍Glad you mentioned the low voltage cut off. Dewalt apparently has the circuitry in the tool so you can brick a Dewalt battery in a different makers tool if your not monitoring it.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      DeWalt is pretty robust. The one you really have to worry about is Makita. It's very obvious when it gets low on power. The problem is there's guys out there that still have the mentality that you have to drain a battery to zero /tool doesn't move anymore before you put it on the charger. This is based on an old wives tale about Nicd/Nimh they ended up just killing those batteries.

  • @oscara.8176
    @oscara.8176 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks Moe.

  • @RobbsHomemadeLife
    @RobbsHomemadeLife Před 2 měsíci

    Hey Moe another great video I kept waiting for you to break out the shoe goop but yeah that hot glue will be fine.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      You know me too well. I had the shoe goo waiting in the wings.

  • @tonyrandazzoe8210
    @tonyrandazzoe8210 Před 12 dny

    Like i said before....you are brilliant !

  • @bread-gz3rl
    @bread-gz3rl Před 2 měsíci +2

    You can get lithium craftsman C3 batteries pretty much anywhere, legit or even 3rd party ones

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      Yes, very true. That is why I didn't convert that one. You can actually buy battery adapters for those as well.

  • @emort6
    @emort6 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video. I've made a few battery adapters myself and I think using a battery with an indicator light is the best way to know when to charge.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      I actually have a video on installing a battery gauge on these. So you could put a battery gauge in the adapter and always know the state of the charge of whatever battery you put in.

    • @emort6
      @emort6 Před 2 měsíci

      @sixtyfiveford I've been down that road and the juice is not worth the squeeze. I'm not sure why we don't have access to the same low voltage protection circuits that the manufacturers use.

  • @jimwright8748
    @jimwright8748 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I got a porter cable that was like new with no charger or batteries. I epoxied a damaged handle base off a craftsman so I could run my batteries.

  • @Steve-xl2mn
    @Steve-xl2mn Před měsícem

    Don't chop up old battery case--transfer the lithium pack into old case. Works particularly well with the Warrior lithium packs, as all charge management is done in battery circuit board (vs. managed by charger). Just drill a small hole for the charger plug to hit charge jack on Warrior pack, and another hole to see the charge LED. I peeled the "WARRIOR 20 VOLT LITHIUM" sticker off the new case and stuck it on the old case, as a reminder.

  • @patrickmorrissey2271
    @patrickmorrissey2271 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice!

  • @astrumdeus7098
    @astrumdeus7098 Před měsícem

    Dude..... you are clever AF!

  • @Wil_Liam1
    @Wil_Liam1 Před 2 měsíci

    I bought a couple of adapters off fleaBay for my old 19.2V Crapsman tools to use my 20v dewalt batteries with for my employees to use instead of my dewalt tools.. That way there's less chance of them dropping and breaking my dewalts and I have a 15 or so 5ah or larger dewalt batteries and several fast chargers so we all have plenty no matter what we're working on that day...

  • @RinoaL
    @RinoaL Před 2 měsíci

    Sodium-ion batteries are coming on the market and although they don't have as much power, they are basically immune to temperature, so that's something to keep in mind in hot areas of the world!

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      I just barely came across some random cells. Lithium-Sulfur Dioxide Battery (LiSO2) - D Size Spiral Cells in a medical device. Can't find much info on them

    • @RinoaL
      @RinoaL Před 2 měsíci

      @@sixtyfiveford Oh those are odd. Just looked them up. Appears they are discharged at 1.8v, when charging they plateau around 2.1v until at around 80% they bump up suddenly to about 2.4v, then when they are done charging the go to 2.5v and up without adding much capacity. Seems there isn't much information on how much cycle life they handle yet either. That's really interesting.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      @@RinoaL I got four of them in a pack for a medical device (size of a D cell). It says it's a 12-volt device. I'm assuming these things are 3 volts? Other than some people using it from military applications, I can't find anything on it. I'm assuming they're super safe/ and won't blow up in certain environments?? I don't know what to do with them.... Yet

  • @malcombailey8590
    @malcombailey8590 Před měsícem

    Thats awsome i just dont have time to do all the steps

  • @poolmotorrepairguyFL
    @poolmotorrepairguyFL Před 2 měsíci

    The Florida pool pump motor repair guy 32750 approved ! that was good info & see your Dog LOL

  • @adammosher1115
    @adammosher1115 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I just wanted to point out t you can run Porter cable batteries on the 20v black and Decker you just need to notch the other side where the notch is and it will fit but the black and Decker battery will fit as long as you notch it as well as trim the tool I done it

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      It's, that's true with the 20v Black and Decker and the 20v Porter Cable. But no other Porter Cable or Black Decker models.

  • @leonvanderlinde5580
    @leonvanderlinde5580 Před 2 měsíci

    In South Africa they sell loose Lithium cells and battery cases for these Lithium batteries. I bought battery cases and loose cells. You get chargers that charges single cells. I removed the old batterires, installed the battery boxes, and installed a hinge and a clip to keep it closed. Less effort and it work much better than your mod.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      Here in the State's they are abundant as well.

  • @robdewhirst7525
    @robdewhirst7525 Před 2 měsíci

    Great job! The lack of low-voltage shutoff might be unique to the Warrior/HF batteries to save the whole $0.05 of PCB components in the battery. Most major battery brands have a BMS with a low voltage cutoff inside the battery, so it doesn't matter what device you attach to the battery, you can't overdischarge it. The only exception I have found to this is EGO, which doesn't apply in your use case. @thriftytoolshed might have a more informed opinion on this.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      The only tool brands that put the low voltage cutoff in the battery itself are Ryobi and their sister company Rigid. They only do this because their batteries are back roads compatible to Old nicad tools. All other tools use the trigger switch in the tool itself, along with some mosfets to not turn on when the voltage is too low.

  • @strongandco
    @strongandco Před 2 měsíci

    "Ginger, we''re stuck in the snow, could be here all night"..."Ok Dad, I'll help by catching all these snow flakes" 😄
    Great re-purposing video. At home Im' still using a Makita NiMh 18V 6343D which is from the mid 2000's and still going strong. Remarkably you can still buy batteries for it and they are cheaper than ever, and I even found a new old stock one on eBay for £150 that I was tempted to buy, but it's good to know that when the day comes, i'll be able to convert it to Lithium using these videos for inspiration.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Makita made awesome stuff back in the day. They invented the cordless tool world.

  • @DeadKoby
    @DeadKoby Před měsícem

    I don't totally hate it....... but I've had the practice of replacing ye-olde Nicads with NIMH, and it worked out OK. I've soldered up batteries for these classic tools.

  • @egodeathplease
    @egodeathplease Před 2 měsíci

    So basically you can build your own adapters but you need to sacrifice 1 tool from.your good set (Milwaukee,Dewalt etc) plus the useless batteries from your old tool set. I bought a Milwaukee adapter for an old porter cable set. A great use for the flashlights that typically come with the sets. Not gonna miss that.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +1

      You don't have to sacrifice a tool if it's a popular current brand(Dewalt, Makita, Milwaukee, etc) because you can buy a $15 adapter that fits the battery and cut it apart. So you would buy any, say DeWalt adapter( Dewalt to Makita, Dewalt to Milwuakee, etc) and essentially just permanently mount it into the old Nicad battery case.

  • @Wil_Liam1
    @Wil_Liam1 Před 2 měsíci

    You can still get those 19.2V batteries off of fleabay or the jungle but they're nimh and for 35-50ish bucks you can get 2 shipped to your door that will last several years... Or just do the Moe conversion and use 20v lion instead...

  • @mtasubwaymartasubway
    @mtasubwaymartasubway Před 2 měsíci +1

    Those grey ones look like porter cable's

  • @FrostyBravo
    @FrostyBravo Před 2 měsíci

    i made a m18 pack and shoved it inside an old drillmaster harbor frieght battery pack that was supposed to be 12v and it let the smoke out in about 30 seconds. so only old tools can take higher voltage?

  • @wtbm123
    @wtbm123 Před 2 měsíci

    Cool

  • @Preciouspink
    @Preciouspink Před 25 dny

    How do you convert the Makita, that has the battery in the handle pistol grip?

  • @Poorboyracing1926
    @Poorboyracing1926 Před 2 měsíci

    How we supposed to do it in Alaska there's no harbor freight

  • @jasondk5127
    @jasondk5127 Před 2 měsíci

    There are adapters on ebay and Amazon that adapt the newer batteries to old systems and they work good.😊

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      Except there are only adapters for about 1/4 of the stuff out there.

  • @charlesmcgowan718
    @charlesmcgowan718 Před 9 dny

    used your idea found a masterforce drill and a ryoby saws all now its a ryobyforce saw

  • @ranger178
    @ranger178 Před 2 měsíci

    i still have working Dewalt 18 volt lithium batteries from 2008 the nickel cadmium are lucky to last 5

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      Those Dewalts are great tools. The biggest downfall was their batteries. But I guess that plagued every power tool of that era.

  • @walterrobbins4470
    @walterrobbins4470 Před 2 měsíci

    With a little bit of glue and some garage butchering I might be able to convert my old makita saw.

  • @jimmieblue6262
    @jimmieblue6262 Před měsícem

    Use JB plastic weld instead of hot glue much stronger.

  • @patrickmorrissey2271
    @patrickmorrissey2271 Před 2 měsíci

    @ 00:37 omg, the Makita 7.2 volt.... I had one of those. It was really nice....

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +2

      It was my first cordless tool.

    • @patrickmorrissey2271
      @patrickmorrissey2271 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@sixtyfiveford Mine too Sir, mine too..... Not a cheap toy at the time.... People were envious.... Makita?? Cordless??? Do you have a solid gold toilet at home???

  • @DAS-Videos
    @DAS-Videos Před 2 měsíci

    Looks like I will be going to HF for a cheap flashlight and battery :-)

    • @DAS-Videos
      @DAS-Videos Před 2 měsíci

      Just got back from HF, the flashlight is surprisingly bad. I have lights that run on one AAA battery that are so much brighter. The switch isn't good, the light goes off before the switch clicks. And it comes with an entire book to say pull the trigger to turn it on lol. So I won't feel too bad cutting up a brand new light.

  • @twistedhillbilly6157
    @twistedhillbilly6157 Před 2 měsíci

    Caddy's and power ports are available for many brands that could save some cutting and adapting.. ALSO low-volt cut-out (anti-over discharge) circuits are available cheap and could fit inside that adaptor.. Frankensteining is always cool..

    • @emort6
      @emort6 Před 2 měsíci

      The low voltage protection circuits sold online will actually kill your battery if left on.

    • @twistedhillbilly6157
      @twistedhillbilly6157 Před 2 měsíci

      @@emort6 1) Always remove battery when not in use.. 2) Over dis-charge will permanently destroy a battery. Self discharge due to a static draw if a battery is left installed would require a recharge.. What's worse??

    • @emort6
      @emort6 Před 2 měsíci

      @twistedhillbilly6157 "Always remove battery when not in use.." is not an acceptable solution to me. On my builds I've elected to just not use the low voltage protection circuit because I just check battery level as I use the tool, no need to remove the battery when finished.

    • @twistedhillbilly6157
      @twistedhillbilly6157 Před 2 měsíci

      @@emort6 Sounds like you just like to argue.. You are one of those people who will be negative no matter what is said.. Good luck with that....

    • @emort6
      @emort6 Před 2 měsíci

      @twistedhillbilly6157 That's not entirely untrue but comments like yours in the past led me to believe that a low voltage protection circuit would protect my batteries, when in fact they don't, at least not the circuits available right now.

  • @earl3358
    @earl3358 Před 2 měsíci

    Very Nice to keep the old stuff chugging
    Other alternatives:
    Ive done a few just screwing on a 10$ dock (Mwaukee/Dewalt] cheaper than hacking an adapter.
    Can also rebuild the existing pack with li ion using a proper amperage BMS so you get over/undervolt protection(Yes more tools and skills involved )
    I had that same Crftman 19.2 set in the ginormous case. Still use some with the Dewalt adaptor. Run better than ever
    For my Old Makita 9v i got a Milwaukee M12 battery. Cut it and flipped the cells to go in the 9v case like > = -
    I kept the top intact sticking out the bottom, so i can just pop it in the M12 charger. Those old Makita 9v run real nice on 12v

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      The hardest part is finding a BMS that will actually do a low voltage cut off. All the bms's are for low drain devices. None of them can handle the 50-100 amps the tool might draw. At least nothing that I have found in a relatively cheap platform. Everything you find is around 1 amp. Maybe 5 amp draw. The over voltage charging BMS is no problem at all and cheap.

    • @earl3358
      @earl3358 Před 2 měsíci

      There are many types of generic 3s 5s BMS rated 20a to 100a. They top off at 4.2v/cell and cut out when one cell hits ~ 2.7v.
      3-5$ on Ali
      The easiest way is just to get an aftermarket Makita bms (the larger blue or green ones) they include over under volt and over discharge protection. And you can charge them with a 21v li ion charger thru the minus pin and middle pin

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      @@earl3358 But it doesn't provide low voltage cut off. It simply senses low voltage and tells the tool that it's under voltage. The tool itself won't allow the mosfets combined with the trigger to activate the motor. So it sends the triggering but not actually the function of low voltage cutoff.
      I could be wrong. It seems every single Makita battery I've ever taken apart (a few dozen) The positive and negative always pass straight through to the tool.

    • @earl3358
      @earl3358 Před 2 měsíci

      @@sixtyfiveford I am talking about the generic rectangular BMS which you can get in differing amp rates. They have over/under voltage shut off. Most also provide balancing and thermal protection.
      Yea the OEM Makita bms works with the tool. However the aftermarket Makita bms have all the necessary protection on the board as these are geared towards 'Makita battery platform' tools aka knockoffs which are just + - in and depend on the battery pack for protection
      There is also the small square Makita knockoff BMS with barrel plug charging. These provide over/undervolt and thermistor protection but no balancing

  • @AndrewMiguelez
    @AndrewMiguelez Před 2 měsíci

    Love this. I save all my old tools that die and harvest the heel for a battery mount to use with other projects. I did use an 18v on a 14.4v rotozip tool and it died after a bit of use. Any way to salvage it or is the motor toast?

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      That's random. The voltages are near identical. A 14.4 volt nicad system runs between 18v fully charged and 12v or less discharged. An 18v lithium is 20v-12.5v .
      I would suspect just a bearing locked up. Unless of course it had the almighty smoke pouring out.

    • @AndrewMiguelez
      @AndrewMiguelez Před 2 měsíci

      @@sixtyfiveford Hmm, that's good to know. I will have to take it apart and diagnose. It was running fine and then never started again. I guess it could even be the switch.

  • @ex-engineer6657
    @ex-engineer6657 Před měsícem

    Cattle dog biting snowflakes; best part of the video... ok, you did well too. Thanks.

  • @truthboomertruthbomber5125
    @truthboomertruthbomber5125 Před 2 měsíci

    12V tools work just fine with the 18/20V lipos.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci

      I would use the 12v lithium for 7.2-12v nicad/nimh.
      14.4v and up I'd use 18/20v

  • @Flowing23
    @Flowing23 Před 2 měsíci

    👍👍

  • @gungnir722
    @gungnir722 Před 2 měsíci

    i bought a 3d printed adapter to use my milwaukee batteries on my dad's old craftsman 19.2v stuff and I guess there's no low voltage shutoff on this old stuff so I ran a few of the batteries down too low and the charger refused to recharge them. Brought one of them back by hooking it up in parallel to another fully charged battery and charged it up enough like that that the charger would take it again but I ruined a couple of chinese knockoff milwaukee batteries like that, so you gotta be real careful not to run them down too low

  • @Th3Pr0digalS0n
    @Th3Pr0digalS0n Před 2 měsíci

    Adaptors for old drills can be bought for about $15.

    • @sixtyfiveford
      @sixtyfiveford  Před 2 měsíci +1

      And can only be found for about 1/4 of the stuff out there.

    • @Th3Pr0digalS0n
      @Th3Pr0digalS0n Před 2 měsíci

      @@sixtyfiveford they make adaptors with just two wires coming out the back for all major lithium battery brands. Then you just wire it to the old drill. Ive done it several times. Your way is, to its credit, very much more inventive and mostly free.

  • @RobertDickens2002
    @RobertDickens2002 Před měsícem

    You could have just used spade terminals and saved your money for the flashlight.