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How to Run Lights Live to Music
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2024
- David gives 3 tips that you need before you run your first lighting show live for a band. What to program, where to program it, and most importantly, how to stay on track with what the band is doing on stage.
This method of running lights will apply to any music you light - whether it's a rock band, worship music, or even DJ/EDM music.
0:00 - Introduction & Equipment Used
0:55 - Programming Pallets and Presets
2:40 - Laying Out Your Console
4:45 - Running Lights Live
6:02 - Paying Attention to the Music and Band
8:00 - Extra Lighting Tips
8:55 - Wrap Up
Resources mentioned:
What Moving Light Positions Should I Program?: www.learnstagelighting.com/ho...
Interview with Nook Schoenfeld on punting: www.learnstagelighting.com/no...
Learn Stage Lighting Labs: www.learnstagelighting.com/ul...
MPCTools: (Now called ShowCockpit) showcockpit.com/site/?s=home
Wonderful video. Thanks for sharing. I did lighting back in the 80s when it was all par cans and gels. Thinking about getting back into it and this was really helpful.
One more time nice work. Your board setup is how I use to teach . It's fast and easy to make looks on the go . 99% of the time in my live show that is how I ran my shows . Keep up the great videos. Also to the newbes out there learn the music and use it for all your looks.
Just got your message. Thanks David . You rock.
Hey! I randomly ran across this video on my feed and I gotta say, WONDERFUL video to get a little start on live music lighting. I do lighting myself as a designer & programmer. New subscriber to your channel now and I look forward to more future videos you share. Thank you for producing these!
super helpful introduction thank you!
This is fascinating. I’d love to get into this
Amazing video!
Hi david great channel really enjoying all your content. I'm interested on how you have the kia controller and the other console both setup. Still fairly new to lighting, usually do my programming within computer software. However I'm leaning towards physical consoles for more live control. I love the setup you have and I'm interested how you get both these controlers to work together the way they do in this video.
Here's more info (check out the attached post to this video too): czcams.com/video/_YSoBLzhl_g/video.html
Thanks!
-David
Great video! What exactly is on each fader? Thanks!
Thanx
Can you also make a video on how to do play back boutons in depths as well
Hi Anthony, I do a LOT of free stuff on ONYX - but there's even more inside Learn Stage Lighting Labs - including deep dives into EVERY part of the software - learn more and check it out here: www.learnstagelighting.com/labs
Hi, I was wondering what your thoughts are on how to get started in LD field in general (with goal of doing EDM type stuff)? I know there are courses, etc, or perhaps getting a job with a gear rental place, or maybe purchasing some lighting gear and starting a small lighting company? Like, if you had that as your goal but none of your current knowledge about all the gear and software, what would be your first steps in moving towards that?
I would do these (2):
"perhaps getting a job with a gear rental place, or maybe purchasing some lighting gear and starting a small lighting company?"
Doing both at the same time gives you both ends of the education - how the big shows work, and the time on the console doing smaller shows to build your style/programming skills.
I've been performing live for over 41 years. In all those years at all different venues we've performed at, from tiny to huge, indoor to outdoor, hired sound/lighting to BYO, I've never played on a stage where fog or haze was used. Never. But nearly all of your videos show lighting through fog.
Many gigging bands in my region carry no lights. They simply rely on whatever the venue has. And the venues that do have lighting simply have a few lights, always on, pointed at the stage.
We've always carried our own lighting and were content with simple color and dimming control.
But now I have a new three piece band that is quite busy and I'm working on improving our show lighting but have no interest in fog, haze, lazers, derbies, or moving lights. Although I am considering a static gobo for custom cut backdrop scenes.
I need to keep our gear reasonably compact and our setup/teardown time as minimal as possible. So my approach to improving our lighting is quite simple.
I intend to use existing led wash lights to light the three of us, of course, but also to wash the back wall in multiple locations, which I can contol via DMX, to create movement and mood through simple scenes and chases.
Since I'm looking for every method I can use, I want to diffuse the lights for maximum effect. But I've not found any aftermarket add-ons and have no wish to purchase a whole new system just to accomplish that.
Do you have any tips, hacks, or DIY approaches I might use that won't affect the light's ability to cool?
Thanks for your time and consideration.
Hey! You can look at these to shape the Beam angle: us.rosco.com/en/product/opti-sculpt
@@LearnStageLighting
Those look very effective. Thanks for your expertise and reply.
What Equipment would you go for, as a 5 members Rock Band, playing mostly in Small/Medium sized Bars/Clubs ?
Maybe a video on this could be cool, and there are nothing as such on youtube at the moment.
I've watch many of you videos, I like them, but they only apply on "big scenes" like this one. But not enough on Small Venues where most of the bands actually are, and have to do their own lighting show.
I think you'd help many people out there that don't know where to start, what fixtures would you advice them to get, where to place their fixtures, on what should they place them. What to get for Front, for Back lighting their Bands, Etc, Etc.
But Thanks anyway ! your vids are really instructive. Keep it up !
Hey Dex,
Glad you're enjoying the videos! You're right, at this time I don't have a lot of CZcams for smaller bands. I do, however, have (2) great courses that walk you through band lighting for small/medium clubs inside of Learn Stage Lighting Labs. (The Lighting Basics Blueprint and From Zero to Lighting Hero)
The Labs is a membership community where you can join us to get access to premium training and personalized feedback - you can learn more here: lp.learnstagelighting.com/learn-stage-lighting-labs/
Thanks!
-David
Hi , My church is using the MPC software. Trying to figure out how to map a speed fader for the pan tilt on my Movers. We have Rogue R3 spots, R2 Wash, and the Maverick spots.
Hi Adam,
You'll want to create an "Override" fader that only contains the information for "FX speed" for each parameter or each light that you want to control the speed of.
I don't have any free videos on how to do this, but I do cover it step-by-step it inside of Learn Stage Lighting Labs: lp.learnstagelighting.com/learn-stage-lighting-labs/
Then. you'll want to clear out any FX you have already built that include speed information...and any new FX, you will NOT record a speed on your FX (just make sure the FX speed fader is up when you program :) )
Thanks!
-David
How did you assign the movers movement to a fader?
Do you need to know exactly how many (and what kind) lights are available before you begin pre-programming a synchronized light:music show? To clarify, I would like to program lights with backing tracks, however how do I know that the light programming I have done (or will do) is going to work for every venue?
You can program the rig in a way where it can be scaled down, but in most cases it will be difficult to expand the rig after syncing it to music unless your console has cloning capabilities
How about I have a problem with my Akai APC40, it stays stuck, my daughter was moving it and this is the result, the green button flashes and the red stays on when you press the green, the red turns off and the green continues flashing, when you press The green turns off again and the pan button turns on and stays in the right direction. If the Ableton program recognizes it and on Mac and PC, that's how it is in different programs, it does the same thing, it recognizes it but it doesn't do anything, it's like blocked or something like that. I hope I can count on your help.
I'm an in house LD. My question is how does a new LD that comes into a club and integrate house lights to their show? Addressing, using odd fixtures?
Great question! What they typically do is copy the venues patch into a new universe on their console, and then "clone" or "morph" the venues fixtures to copy programming from fixtures that they have in their show. This gives them a really big jumpstart on programming.
I only have one computer, and its very old.... what should I do?
I know I'm really late but I'm still gonna ask this. Is there any tutorials on how to actually connect the controllers to the light bulbs?
What specifically are you trying to connect? Maybe this video will help? - czcams.com/video/w1uuaJT2_Rk/video.html
What is this software where you can graphically model the stage?
Hello David. How do you generally build your presets for positions, all the fixtures together for each preset or you do different presets for different groups or fixture models?
All fixtures together
Learn Stage Lighting .com Thanks for answering. Have you ever worked with cuelists? In a way that you put everything in cues (including effects) and you go forward as the shows progresses? Of course if you have the song list beforehand.
Yep, tons of times! It's a lot easier come show time, but it only works if they follow the list and you have time to program. (This video is about when you don't have that time!)
Hello 😀
Qustion for par lamps
If iam going to use it at a party with Sound mode is it then possible to slave Them so they all have the same Color to the Music without the control board
It depends on the light. Some DJ lights can be linked together with DMX cables in sound-active mode to sync, others don't. Check your manual :)
Hi my question is how to do I am movement in my ma2 on pc
Thanks in advance
I would look at tutorials on doing FX in MA. It's pretty straightforward, but on a blank, new MA2 show it can be a bit confusing.
In an old demonstration video they said you can put an Audio file in the program and program all the lights to that audio file. I don't see anything like that in any of these videos. Does it have this feature?
I figured out how to put an audio file on it shockingly it doesn't take MP3s. I press play and does not play back the audio.
Hello!,
Not sure what program you're using (this video was done in M-PC), but it looks like you may be talking about D-Pro (?) . If so, dive into the user manual, which will show you the types of files that are supported- this is likely your issue. dol2kh495zr52.cloudfront.net/pdf/manuals/d-pro-user-manual.pdf
Can you go into detail on enabling the track selection row for mapping?
You simply need to get the APC40 into the right mode - learn more here: czcams.com/video/_YSoBLzhl_g/video.html
Hi what colors should I use when lighting the front of the stage or how do I do this thanks
It really depends on the content of the show! I recommend talking with the artist, or if you are the artist, experiment and see what works best for you! Usually, green is frowned upon, by everything else is fair game!
Anything but green
wich controller do you use in this video?
lg from Germany ;)
This is Martin M-PC: www.learnstagelighting.com/begin-martin-m-pc/
Is it possible to make a living out of being a lighting programmer? If so what college classes would I even take.
Hey Sebastian - not only is it possible, a lot of people do it! There are 2 primary ways people get into the industry - either they go to a college and get a theatre/concert/event planning degree and then start working in the "real world", or they simply begin working for lighting and stage labor companies at the entry level.
I personally started like the 2nd way - working for whatever lighting or AV companies I could. When you show initiative and work hard, it will be noticed. Then, you can ask nicely, and many companies will let you come into their shop and work with consoles on your own time....and this can help lead you to get on shows.
When I started, I also found that connecting with Lighting Designers and programmers and asking them what the best steps would be helped me a ton! Find some local people in your area, and take them out for coffee! If you show initiative, they'll likely help you :)
Does anyone know what visualizer he uses?
This is Capture: www.learnstagelighting.com/want-lighting-visualizer/
What program is he using?
What visualizer is this?
This is Capture: capturesweden.com
What kind of visualization sorfware you used?
This is Capture: www.learnstagelighting.com/want-lighting-visualizer/
David or who ever; what do u think about the Elation scene setter 24?
It's basic. If you have really basic lights, you can make a show on it. But today, with moving lights and LED's, it's just not the right option for most people.
?@@LearnStageLighting can't u use moving lights with it also
@@LearnStageLighting I'm using mostly led's with it.
What program is this?
What is that program that you wach how your lights work called?
Capture - see more here: learnstagelighting.com/want-lighting-visualizer/
Can you make a video of onyx cue list in depts
Hi Anthony, I do a LOT of free stuff on ONYX - but there's even more inside Learn Stage Lighting Labs - including deep dives into EVERY part of the software - learn more and check it out here: www.learnstagelighting.com/labs
HI! I have a big question. How do bands in festivals sync their lighting? I mean i know how to sync with MIDI and my backing tracks BUT every lighting machine and stuff have their own codes and colors depending on that code. So if im using my own lights, and then go to a show where they have too, theres a big possibility that the colors and movement could change due to each machine MIDI code. So, how do ALL bands sync their lighting show without suffering those kinds of problems? Because sometimes it is impossible to bring your own equipment just to avoid that problem. Thank you!
Bands either don't do it with tech, the operator does it OR they use a very powerful feature of professional consoles called "Cloning", which copies programming from your lights (which may or may not be set up) to their lights. More on cloning here: czcams.com/video/Qiwml4WOtjg/video.html
@@LearnStageLighting Thank you so so so much for answering!!! :D
Dose mpc tools work on the latest version of mpc?
Roi Tomer Yes, it works great
Yes!
I tried to connect a trackball to control pan and tilt and it didn't work.
And when I open mpc tools it says that the software is too old
You need to make sure you have the latest version of MPCtools - ricardo-dias.com/mpctools/ , then, make sure to follow the manual on the website - I have also linked the instruction videos here: czcams.com/video/aDymtX2j-7U/video.html
Learn Stage Lighting .com tnx I'll try
What’s up with the bowel commercial?
are you have indonesia language?
I have not, as I do not speak it ! Sorry!
@@LearnStageLighting I hope you write translate in english language on CZcams Cc 😊
Very unique video, but it lacks explanation on a lot of technical words you have said. I could not absorb all the information properly
Hi Jessie, thanks for the feedback! As you can probably see, this video is 3 years old, and I have gotten better at explaining in that time...but this one is also aimed a little higher than a lot of my videos - more towards the mid-level user. If you haven't already, check out the resources below the video, as they will help fill in the gaps a good bit! And keep watching here on Learn Stage Lighting, as I'm always coming out with new stuff and improving on the "old stuff" :)