BMW X1 (E84) Review: How it went from a bad new car to a great used car | EvoMalaysia.com
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
- Timestamps:
- 00:00 - Introduction
- 01:16 - BMW X1 E84 when new in Malaysia
- 04:40 - BMW X1 E84 variants in Malaysia, and which to choose
- 14:05 - BMW X1 E84 exterior design
- 18:19 - BMW X1 E84 boot space
- 20:00 - BMW X1 E84 rear seats
- 23:31 - BMW X1 E84 front seats and dashboard
- 31:58 - Conclusion
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As an ex-owner of an E84 xdrive20d, I totally agree with what Kon has said. Daily driven it and really glad it is my first BMW bcoz it shows me how good BMW can be. Reliable, fuel efficient, crazy torque pull and damn freaking good handling
wear and tear maintenance reasonable? how much per year average?
The handling is insane good.
Xdrive 20d superb handling and Also have subwoofer underneath the seat.. More usb port than F10. 10 years using Xdrive 20d 6 speed 177hp 350 torque clocking 384k km
Happy owner detected!
I've had the petrol version. Curious to know abt the reliability of the diesel model. You have the pre LCI, I presume, as its got the 6 speed ZF?
Wonderful and accurate perfect review , I liked lot.
Accurate review from Kon👍👍
Thanks for watching!
I owned this e84 for 5 years now. Great truck space due to the wagon design
Happy owner, I presume? Yours is the petrol or diesel?
@@KonWaiLuen Mine Petrol 2.0 S-Drive. So far very reliable work horse. Never left me stranded on the road up till now. Standard BMW wear and tear does applies as usualy. 😆
A friend fetch me in one of the diesel X1. The torque is damn! Start to spot X1. I am more to Mercedes guy though but such mid size with such torque really amazed me. The boot space is good enough, the plus side is the rear door opens wide. You can put a washing mashine in directly unlike any sedan. Yet it feels like riding a slightly jacked up sedan. It is worth to go for it especially if considering getting an Ativa or x50. Germans are great at making perfect diesel engines. Good review.
Haha... yes. I remember first time testing the diesel X1. Interior quality is shit, but the drive is good!
@@KonWaiLuen well, when I ride on my friend's X1 Diesel, all I can see was the road ahead and tucked back the seat as he floored it. So I did not aware those shit in front of me...😂. But my friend told me other then engine and suspension, all those little electronics seems fragile.
I am a merc enthusiast but have a x1 x20d in marakesh brown. What a car, built quality is pretty good and the most reliable BMW i have ( had e46/e53/e60/e90/f10) annual maintenance is ok about 2-5k as it is already 12 years old.
The CBU diesel actually comes with idrive/ wood trim and most important of all. 4wD
The first gen came without the electric steering hence is heavy on low speed but the feedback is great at highspeed
The price of these are cheap now. Went shopping to trade in for a merc and the dealer only offered 30k! For a car with 26k km…
I better keep this as a daily beater for now
Marrakesh Brown is a gorgeous colour.
Could you pls share your thoughts on the BMW X1 2010 model Xdrive 25i, its a petrol engine
I drive a U.S. spec sdrive 28i. The styling wasn’t ugly to me at first and now I really like it’s exterior design. Like you said, it’s in a crowded class but actually one of a kind because RWD and the engine sits far back. M sport package with sport tuned suspension makes it handle great. N20 powered with fine torque so it’s not quick but not a slouch. Returns about 26 mpg from real world driving. Only needed regular maintenance. Purchased 2 years ago with 41k miles for under 15k USD. Now at 56 and counting. Good little car
Nice. BMW never officially offered the 28i spec here in our market. We only ever got the 20d, the 20i here with the 184hp N20 engine, and the 18i with the lethargic N46 engine
@@KonWaiLuen The 28i is the same as the 20i so a simple remap puts it up to fairly silly horsepower for a car like that
Brother your video is wonderful I never see before this review like this it's very mu h details (nut how much matinées how much h every year boss)
I hv the last batch of E84 with i-drive. Its SDrive20i. If you lowered and slap with 19" stagerred and tune up the engine. Well, you will hv a hot hatch and decent performance. RWD with mechanical handbrake, drift-session. For a sub RM60k today, is a good option if you are a car guy.
Hahahaha.... it keeps going bro. Next thing you know, N54 conversion.
Does the CBU X1 xdrive20d have DPF filter?
Sitting here waiting on my E84 X1 Xdrive2.8i with the Msport package and 19" twin spokes. Sticker when new in2013 was $45,000 USD, its a lower milage 45K for $15K and a two year extended warranty. Still a fair amount of money for a used vehicle, but new car prices are insane and insurance is getting stupid. Fingers crossed.
As an owner of E84 x20d (since 2014). totally agree what you siad. wear and tear cost you RM600-RM1K a signal services (12000 KM). those services cost almost nothing compare to those SUV present in the market. good value of the Car by far using.
diesel engines still the best for daily use car and high efficiency.
if asking for replacement changing my BMW x1 x20d is not my option to think of.
will keep this car as my long trip driving vechical (Ready fuel efficient)
still give positive review for this model.
What's your thoughts of its ride quality? I always felt the diesel is a bit too stiffly sprung.
This model was 10 year back technology. I would not said Stiffly sprung and more sporty feel.
No complain about this car quality. It does not look premium by eye But the hand touch premium and quality feel.
This car with me for 10 years and it makes difficult to change other car with the overall performance.
Drove the 20i for 3ish years. Amazing handling and a very naughty traction control system that let you slide the rear wheels without interfering. The thing in the boot, near the batt, is the amp. Even the base sound system in the 20i had an amp, despite having only 5 speakers as claimed by BMW. I counted 6 speakers though. And it sounded great, with strong subwoofers under the seat. Im sure the 20d sound system would be better as it has more speakers.
Yes, the 20d is slightly higher specced compared to the 20i in our market.
So diesel model is better for daily ?
@@mohdfarid8459 both ok for daily. The diesel is more fuel efficient. But the petrol isn't bad either (for a turbo 2.0 petrol). The diesel model is also more expensive as it has higher spec.
The base speaker system came with subwoofers? I'm looking into buying one but I want to have a nice sound system in a car.
@@etahn Test drive it first, including the sound system. But bear in mind the petrol version only has 5/6 speakers. Thus the mid and high is handled by one speaker (sort of a full range speaker). It has no dedicated tweeter, but has 2 dedicated subwoofer under the front seats. The diesel has dedicated tweeters which the petrol did not get.
I recommend those looking this model to look Xdrive 20d Lci 2015 8 ZF speed electric power steering 184hp 380hp. You won't regret.
Interesting choice. I once drove a 2014 model with the ZF 8-speed and 184hp engine tune, but hydraulic power steering.
Kon
Can you advise on lowering springs to get to like a estate /wagon height, as it is the same frame.
Also non run flat tires
My advice is don't go lower than factory M Sport springs.
Get a coilover or what Malaysian said "adjustable", seriously, lowering spring are stupid without shocks and strut with short strokes, just get a Coilover WITH soft hard settings, trust me you will not regret.
Can't seem to find one with m sport package in the used market, was it not an option when it was on sale in Malaysia?
No, not officially, but the xDrive20d models feel like they were sitting on M Sport suspension
Hi bro, what ur view on 2017 318i vs 2017 bmw x1? And also which one is more reliable? Thanks.
For reliability, I will go for the X1 with the B48 engine here.
Bit late comment here. But i really need your expert opinion on Audi Q5 vs BMW X3 both from 2015-2016. Appreciate that sir.
They are both alright, but the Audi has much better interior.
My E84, 2014 serve me well for daily drives, Penang to KL commute, Cameron Highlands drives
Only major repairs at 70k plus mileage were head gaskets set replaced and 4cshocks plus usual brake pads, tires, etc
Good performance, torque torque but harsh rides on PJ bad roads
9 years old, problem is you can't let go when resale price is, so low😊
Sounds like yours is the diesel?
@@KonWaiLuen
No, it's a petrol... like you reviewed... it's expensive then.. definitely agree with you it's a good 2nd hand buy... if well maintained... radiator, expansion tank, water pump no problem unlike the E46 engines😊. I am keeping mine, reluctant to let go.. spare parts easy to get. Highway performance is excellent on run flat Pirelli
it's a lovely car to drive around, the 20i petrol model. you bought yours from new?
Yes, pre registration
Curious to know what message was popping on the screen? As you can hear the BMW gong going off.
I m curious too
Speed limiter
@@KonWaiLuen Its able to detect the road speed limits??
Can you review BMW X1 with 1500cc engine. is it under power since the engine is 1500cc.
Underpowered, not really, but the interior feels cheap. Proton X50 feels like an up-grade from the X1 1.5
I thought of the X1 as my first family car. Anyone can suggest me petrol or diesel? in terms of reliability and maintenance wise. recommend workshop as well.
diesel always comes first; stronger engine, better performance.
I own one since 2012, its a great car.
Did you still own it??
@@BigBoss-tk6lh yes i do still own it
@idkantamsaja1459 sorry for asking ,could you tell me how much miles on it and how reliable it is..and are thet very expensive to fix ??
Its funny how yours has a plastic gauge cluster cover. Mine is leather. I dont know why. I have a Xline 20i 2015
Could be a minor running change.
What’s your thought on used F20s?
Also future classic, but unfortunately let down by uninspiring engine selection. Most units in the market are either Prince engine or the 1.5 3-cyl. The 125i N20 are the ones to go for if you can find them, and they are now reasonably priced at abt 85-95k. If you can get the M140i, that one is da bomb
How’s the maintenances aspect boss ?
The usual N20 stuff:
- timing chain guide
- oil seals
- cooling system
Engine gets rough on idle with age, but it's normal. A relatively reliable engine if well cared for.
Actually looking for something small and compact. Continental yes, but even Japanese is great. Mini size? Jazz size?
do you have a budget in mind? this X1 is actually kira compact by today's standards. haha.
if you want even small size, can consider a VW Polo?
@@KonWaiLuen Hmm. the polo may be an option - but actually looking for something great for a solo driver lah - one person with a big SUV will feel like i'm a road hogger.
try a 1 Series? Golf GTI?
@@memeranglaut u still haven't tell kong your budget
@@KonWaiLuen those could be options yeah. need to check places out tho - see if the seller are good or just cover line saja. Thanks!
what is the different btw F48 and E84 ?
F48 is transverse engine FWD, E84 is longitudinal engine RWD.
@@KonWaiLuen Thanks, rwd is more fuel efficiency, is my understand correct?
FWD is theoretically more fuel efficient, because the driveshaft is shorter hence less weight.
Any colour in brown etc is ugly; use a photo in alpine white and modern it up with black trim etc... it becomes a entirely different car. As of now it's highly regarded engine/performance wise.
Personally I do think it’s a pretty underrated option - especially if you live in a country with adverse climate. In North America especially on the north-east, we get a lot of heavy snow, hence having ground clearance is always a nice to have (but also, do not want a tall SUV either as they aren’t as fun to drive). The X1 (E84 only ) was one of the few that fit my bill - the LCI here came with the N20B20 28i tune or the N55B30 35i tune, and xDrive standard. This meant I can still have my wagon like dynamics but with a touch more ground clearance for the snow days. And of course as we all know the xDrive system is great with winter tyres up here. Alas as these age now, it’s a bit more dicey to get into one up here, older cars are not as well maintained and labour to repair ain’t cheap.
Oddly, I do find the Mazda CX-30 almost feels like the spiritual successor to the E84 - fun, with ground clearance but not too tall or not too big. The F48 X1 never felt good to drive for me, and didn’t feel as nice even compared to the CX-30.
The F48 X1 is very generic SUV. It's better than the E84 only in the respect that it is more spacious inside, and may be just slightly better built. The F48 justified its existence in the marketplace solely on the merit of it being a better car than the GLA. Against the XC40, it falls flat. Actually, not even CX-30, the X50 feels a more premium product than the F48.
That being said, have you checked out the U11? I saw the iX1 last week and was impressed by the interior.
@@KonWaiLuen I think you’re spot on regarding the F48 - I recall sitting in a new one and felt how cheap and nasty it was, granted this was an early unit but yes, it arguably was the best option compared to the GLA (harsh ride, very tight interior, just as bad quality) and the Q3 Mk1 (the price, and it felt ancient). My hot take was the F48 (and in some sense, the F30) were less “solid” feeling than their predecessors, but they were maybe better screwed together - less shit fell off over time. The last of the “solid” feel F series cars had to be the F10/F15, anything below the 5 series in that era always felt very ‘hollow’ although they didn’t shed trim like the older models. BMW definitely has fixed that in the G series cars no doubt, they are easily top of the game now.
I absolutely loved the XC40, had one as a rental in Germany, granted the D2 model I had was a bit gutless, it drove well enough, but more importantly despite it not being fully specified, it was well made and felt premium. The CX-30 we get here in America is made in Mexico; so it’s a fair bit different in comparison to the Malaysian model. There’s a bit more hard plastics on the door card and most models don’t come with the leather seats (except the top trim) but otherwise, it’s got excellent quality. I’ve yet to sit in the U11; they are a lot harder to find here actually as the X3 is not that much more money (especially on lease or finance) compared to an equivalent specified X1, primarily because the X3 is made in America (lesser taxes) as opposed to the imported X1. Also, the market here has generally preferred the larger interior of the X3, and it’s also a lot easier to sell it onwards. The F48 pre-LCI was popular enough here as bmw gave some sweet lease deals on it, but as prices have shot up and discounts are no longer found, the X3 gives more value here. In fact, the U11 will not come in the BEV form which was a huge surprise, as Volvo sells the XC40 EV and so does the Genesis GV60. The G01 iX3 also never made it here ever because it was RWD only which is a hard sell again due to the heavier snow in the northeast (BMW iirc offered the X3 and X5 in sDrive base form but those are barely bought by buyers either), so it was surprising the U11 won’t make it since they fixed the whole RWD thing as the iX1 is AWD. not to say bmw isn’t selling their EVs here either, their EV sales I’d say exceed their PHEV sales, and the iX and i4 have good take up rate (2 year waiting period for the i4). The i4 base is offered in RWD eDrive 35(iX3 equivalent) and RWD eDrive 40 (same as Malaysia) - but bmw has justified those as “fun cars” so the RWD only nature is fine. The M50 xDrive however is fully sold for 2 years+.
To be fair to BMW, the F30 LCI did improve on the interior build quality, but still did not stand a chance next to the W205 with regards to sense of occasion. The F30 is more solidly built, but that’s not a quality you can capture on Instagram
@@KonWaiLuen absolutely. Not only that by comparison the F30 was more practical imo
I had one of these but the Sdrive18i. The car is harsh riding, not fuel efficient 11.1L/100km if I'm careful, small rear boot for my small family, interior plastics thats degrading/melting/breaking off, unreliable with engine VANOS issues becoming a big repair cost, and a medium list of things thats not working or already broken down and repaired. The best part about the car is the big moonroof, very strong brakes, smooth engine, large side mirrors giving good visibility and overall heavy solid feel. I've driven many cars that is a better car than this one, avoid this car I would say. For my small family (boot space is important) the recent drives that seem so much better than this car are Honda Shuttle (big boot), Subaru Forester, Honda Odyssey (quiet), even the Opel Insignia (but also have some typical German reliability issues but a roomier car).
Which market are you from? I don't think we had the sDrive18i in Malaysia with moonroof. This engine spec was definitely the one to avoid, being the same problematic unit found in the E90 320i.
@@KonWaiLuen Its a Singapore car.. so avoid the NA 2.0L engine 👌i'm surrpised a simpler NA engine has more reliability issue than a more complicated turbo or diesel engine. Anyway, so far my ownership experiences with BMW (X5 35i, 523i, 118i) hasn't been a nice one but they are nice to drive.
😂 watching this 6 months later
See you in 6 months!
Nice, contact me if this car available for viewing
Bro, are you Kah Fooi from Seaport?? This car just collected a deposit, but i know of another unit available for sale. Can WhatsApp at 012-488 0367
Slam it, and it becomes a shooting brake.
Now that's an idea
😂mans speaking facts 3:45 … wait 10 years … buy it cheap … simple math
poor reliabilty, poor handling and so so ride comfort..unless you really need to have that badge..they are other cars which are cheaper and much better...
I would like to hear from your which car is cheaper and better than this x1? Maybe can elaborate the details
@@cjseng2008 lots of cars on the market which won't depreciate as bad, not have oil filter housing leaks, timing chain failure, oil pump failure, vanos fail, atf cooler leaks mixed atf oil and coolant resulting total gearbox failure ...to name a few😂...there is a reason why they lose value so bad, poor quality products for badge snobs
@@trustgtr33 Perhaps can you give some example of the car that you think is cheaper and better. We can discuss about it from few aspects
@@cjseng2008 i don't suggest cars, my advice is to stay away from cheap european cars in the used car market..buy them new and get rid of them after warranty ends..thats when the plastic engine bits breaks apart..planned obsolescenes..no matter what aspects you wanna look at it
@@trustgtr33 I have just asked ChatGPT about buying used cars and this is the reply:
In general, buying a used car can often make more economical sense than buying a new car. Here are a few reasons why:
Lower initial cost: Used cars are typically less expensive than new cars, which means that you can often get a better deal by buying a used car.
Lower depreciation: Cars tend to lose value quickly, especially in the first few years after they are purchased. By buying a used car, you avoid the steep depreciation that occurs during this time period.
Lower insurance premiums: Used cars generally have lower insurance premiums than new cars, which can save you money on your monthly car expenses.
Lower registration fees: In many states, the registration fees for a used car are lower than for a new car.
More affordable financing: If you need to finance your car purchase, you may be able to get a more affordable loan for a used car than for a new car.
Of course, there are also some downsides to buying a used car, such as potential maintenance and repair costs, the risk of buying a car with hidden problems, and the fact that used cars may not have the latest safety features and technology. However, overall, buying a used car can be a good way to save money and get a reliable vehicle.