13 E-Bike TRICKS Brands Use To Hit A Headline Weight!
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2024
- It seems as though the listed weights on lightweight e-bikes aren't all they are cracked up to be. Danny Milner and Alan Muldoon sit down and expose every single trick the bike manufacturers use to hit a headline weight on their e-MTB's.
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All trail/enfuro ebikes should have DD casing tire , 4 piston brakes and 700-750wh battery std. The rest is components choice, but these should be a bare minimum.
Drivetrain, wheel material, cockpit material, suspension, removeable battery is fair play
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Really liking your new round table style videos!
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Great video... more like this please 😊
Great video and information
Spot on. Could easily shave of almost a kg changing from DH casing tyres to lighter ones. Looks good on paper. But thats about it. I think there should be a standard. Where manufacturers have to use 1200 gram tyre weight in spec sheet. That probably would be an enviromental win also. As fewer would trash new tyres to get more appropiate tyres.
The battery size for full power e-bikes IS the main weight contributor. My SC Bullit is perfect with 630wH with DD casings coming in around 22kg fully kitted including pedals… +700wH seems like a joke if you’re worried about weight IMHO. Cheers, great content!
If MBR is routinely weighing bikes on test. wouldn't it be a good idea to test ebike motor torque and peak power to see if they match with manufacturers claimed figgers
This is definitely something we’d like to do.
We live for the day long travel full powered Emtbs with at least 750 battery will weigh under 20kg!
I think the rub here is it depends what the manufacturer says intended use for the bike is, if the bike is sold as a XC ebike then smaller brakes, shorter travel suspension, lighter components etc all make sense, if you are buying it for what it's intended then no foul, the incinuation here is that all ebikes are for harder. hitting riding and these lighter bikes are a compromise. Not so if it's used as intended, lighter trail/XC riding then it's on the money. I have raced XC for years and still ride those sort of trails, so wanted a ebike with the light weight and the component choices all made sense. My bike weighs 17kg all in and it's perfect for what I want it for. I get the feel and fun factor of my race bikes but with the benefits of the ebike !, win win
given all the shenanigans that bike manufacturers get up to for weight saving, its difficult to see why there still supplying bikes with unnecessarily long and heavier crank arms. I've gone from 170 to 150 on my ebike, giving more ground clearance and finding spinning at higher cadence is easier.
2025 bikes are all coming with 50mm cranks 😂
So sensible, realistic eMtb weights are still >20kg...
So pretty much back where we started
I might be wrong here but I think you missed a classic. A lot of mid-high end bikes don't come with pedals so they don't include them in the claimed weight.
Good shout, but no bikes that we know of are weighed with pedals, so we let them off this one!
Used to do the no paint trick back in the day along with everything else to reach the low 20lb range. 😂 Damn bike broke all the time.
The bike Industry says, "Are you classified as a biker?"
Korben Dallas replies, "Negative, I am a meat popsicle."
Weight (without battery)
The real question though is at what weight does the eBike lose its appeal as a bike?
I would hazard a guess; over 25kg!
My Orbea wild alloy 2023 weighed over 26kg - versus my previous turbo levo 23kg, the ride difference was very noticeable.
A heavier bike is harder to manoeuvre, jump, learn skills on, turn, make it stop. Or God forbid landing on you after a spill.
If you love bombing down hard core chuntry stuff, get the big, fat bad mother ebike.
Good job dudes. I think full powered e bikes are king. Way more fun and better priced. These super light e bikes are overpriced and not tried and true.
My KSL is 21.3kg. Bike weights are dumb these days. Whatever your bike weighs... Add battery and motor that's it. Simple. Making 170 bikes as light as possible means they aren't fit for purpose
Why are people that obsessed about weight when it has a motor. I can understand bike weight being a big issue for conventional bikes but we know ebikes are going to be heavy and if you cut battery capacity for example then you risk running the battery flat and having to ride a very heavy bike without assistance in which case most people would prefer a heavy bike with a longer range. I would of thought range anxiety was a thing on e-mountain bikes. I mean these so called 250W ebikes are drawing close to 900W at times that's a huge discharge rate when climbing. Also range reduces over time as the cells age, I'd rather start from a high capacity. High capacity battery packs age better as more cells means the discharging is shared between cells so they can last longer. So many good reasons to have a large battery pack, lifespan, range, likely improved reliability of the battery pack. Ability to be stored longer for example without potential damage to the cells.
My theory is smaller people…
While sitting on a full fat 29kg emtb is amazing they ride brilliantly… but if you’re 5’1 52kg, muscling around a massive e-bike into a van or car is a nightmare. Even riding a bike when you’re that small would probably make you feel out of control.
Trick 14: have “independent” reviewers refer only to claimed weight, instead of actually weighing the bikes they ride!
Except we weigh all the bikes we test
@@MBRmagazine that’s true… but somehow in your calculations 60 grams become 600… as with the Levo SL Alloy.
Yeah we made a mistake with the Levo SL in the rush to get the video out.
@@MBRmagazine Yeah sure it must have been the "rush"...
Bikes are getting smaller & more expensive really don't make sense 😮 i wont buy into it