Rings of Power Showrunners ATTACK Fans After Failure
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- Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power is leading up to the finale of the first season this week but as the viewer numbers leave a lot to be desired, the showrunners have come out attacking the fans once more. In a tried and tested formula for failure, this time JD Payne and Patrick McKay call the fans evil. Galadriel is acknowledged as not a hero and is there any morality in this show at all? Is Rings of Power worth watching?
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Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power decided to take the Star Wars route and attack the fans but go as far as calling them evil! Combine that with Amazon coming out to "explain" the budget and the latest cope from the showrunners and media, well this was a collection of quotes and a half. But what did you think of the showrunners response to Rings of Power criticism? Let me know your thoughts down below, and as always, thanks for watching :)
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"I defend my views through shill media, therefore I am".
Best way to out a narcissist is to criticize them. Immediate hostility? Gaslighting? Projecting like a mutha-effa? They are so easy to see once you know this one weird trick.
These tuckwads check every box, and cannot be trusted. Ever. About anything. The only entertainment that will come of this will be watching them implode. Narcissists never just go away quietly...another Cheeto comes to mind in this.
Jesus fuck, 5 seasons of this, you must be mad!
We need T-shirts made up of the tower of Barad-dûr with the flaming eye replaced with the Amazon logo.
Imagine using Tolkien and a billion dollars and failing this hard
Nobody would dare to do that right ?
I think if Amazon had given Peter Jackson one hundred million dollars, he would have produced a quality show. I so much hoped that Rings of Power would defy its critics and I really gave it a fair go, but I have to agree, it’s absolutely dire. Sadly, the only reason I’m now watching it is to hate watch this garbage.
I don't have to imagine anymore 🤣
Tolkien is the most overrated author of the 20th century.
They literally had all the marketing just having the Lord of the Rings title! I think they knew this and tried twisting it too far beyond recognition.
I’d rather be called “ patently evil” than actually being “ patently incompetent “
The Rings of Power show runners are BOTH.
Agreed lol
I like how they're hoping the open-minded, real people all die so they don't have to listen to how horrible they are.
Ditto
Calling your customers 'patently evil', sounds pretty patently evil if you ask me.
They're not attacking fans because the show has no fans, they're attacking critics of which there's no shortage.
It's just the childish tantrums on the bully pulpit. Sad and pathetic is what it is.
PJ fans are not LotR fans
They seem to have the idea that if you are making an "adaptation" (loosest sense) of something you are a fan of you should therefore like the adaption.
Many, many people don't and for whatever reason (whether they think it's right or not) that's on them and not us.
The customer is always right
@@reek4062 Why are you always on every video, on every comment super triggered posting cringe comments? Take a break and go take a shower.
@@muwalakoala cause that's what incel virgin losers like this do... only offer shit, cause that's all they have to offer
Tolkien never explicitly said Galadriel didn't fly an F-15 fighter jet across the surface of the sun.
My favorite part was when confronted with the fact their show is boring, they immediately ignore any criticism of THEIR work, and asnwer that Tolkien writes in a very descriptive and slow paced way. Guys, no one accused Tolkien of being boring. It's YOU who have a boring product, saying Tolkien is not for everybody is the mother of all copouts.
I hope a smaller company will step in and make a lower budget adaption of the book which blows this out of the water. Just look at what shows like 'Rome' were able to do with a fraction of the budget.
More things happen in just one line of the book than in an entire season of this show😂
To be fair, i 've read it when i was 13, and i certainly found some passage a bit dull. Also the third movie is kinda dragging along.
@@automatescellulaires8543 To be fair, you were 13 my friend. Children do have lower attention spans.
Obviously didn’t read the article. They defended themselves by citing the stately pacing of Tolkien’s work, which is accurate. But also acknowledged that it’s something they can improve by keeping even the smaller scenes focused on the larger plots and conflicts. I thought it showed maturity.
They say I'm "patently evil" and "fascist adjacent."
I say thats confession through projection
I disagree, they are "patently incompetent" and "SJW activists".
The funny thing is that when they said fans are those things, they are also saying that fans who like the show are those things too. I am pretty sure they were only referring to the fans who disagree with them. "Whoops!"
"Whoopsie!" (That is a pitch meeting reference. I can't wait for it to come out!)
I'm a hardcore lefty and I hate this show.
Yep pretty much
yep ive come to ralise that the last few weeks and it goes for ALL the left...so i say let them blabber their bile since its actually telling us how they think....just take notes or something
"She cares little for the feelings of others and is solely focused on her own goals and ambitions."
That's literally the number one trait of a villain - selfishness above and beyond the good of others. I want what I want and to hell with everyone else.
@Anonymous Cheese Yet somehow Magneto, as a villain, is still much more fun to watch on screen than Galadriel. Sir Ian McKellen simply saying the name "Charles" as Magneto carries more depth and emotion than all of Galadriel's scenes put together.
Girl Power
Malignant narcissists.
"I'm going to self-insert and write myself doing everything objectively evil, but tell everyone I'm the hero. That makes ME a hero, too. 🥰"
@Anonymous Cheese Dude! I was just going to say the same thing, using the EXACT same characters as examples. You beat me to it. Well done!
Narcissistic
Sociopathic
Or simply Woke.
"Evil cannot create. Only corrupt." - Tolkien.
Spot on!
false quote commonly used by fake fans
@@reek4062 attacking someone for paraphrasing Tolkien is a class act. Especially on a video that's already around people stupidly lashing out.
Pretty sure the Bible said it first.
That actually fits the writers of Rings of power.
Plot twists I expect:
1. Disa works for Sauron and is trying to get the mithril for his armies.
2. Guyladriel is actually Sauron.
That Sauron captured Galadriel, chained her somewhere, and took her place would actually explain some of her behavior.
Women are never the bad guys.. especially women of colour. Come on
@@kravercramel They can be the bad guys they are just immediately forgiven for their sins afterwards.
I'm afraid what we'll get is Celeborn getting back from battling the Balrog just in time to hook up with an already pregnant Guylad. Arwen is Saurons grandchild! 🙈
3. Who gives a shit?
"She isn't acting masculine!"
Says the same people who would call what she's doing *MAN SPREADING!*
Honestly, “Abraham Lincoln: vampire hunter” has more in common with the real Abraham Lincoln, than Rings of Power’s Galadriel has in common with Tolkien’s Galadriel.
I like how they don't even address the criticism that galadriel and the harfoots are evil. They know they've got nothing to counter that one.
It may be beyond their comprehension as they seem to genuinely think those are the good guys. I can't wrap my head around that at all. Maybe they should tell us which historical figures they consider to be good, and which they consider to be evil.
The Harfoots are likely good in the writer's mind. That's what's wrong. We got a glimpse into what the progressives think a society should act like. It's horrendous, thinks highly of itself to the point of being delusional, and relies on chants and slogans to enforce compliance with the group think. It's basically a religion without morals.
How are the harfoots evil??? Unless its related to not being genuine Tolkien lore, the creatures themselves are not. They keep to themselves, they are largely vegetarians, seasonal migration like many indigenous people and have a code of conduct of support. Their not ambushing, cannibals bent on world power.
If their justification for Guy-ladrial is that Galadriel would put her hair in a crown when performing athletic feats, why is Guy-ladriel's hair always hanging down?
They also left out the part where Celeborn gave her that nickname.
Gosh, I wonder what it would be like to have a franchise in which the men, badasses in their own right, all think their own wives are amazing and important and worth fighting for. What would it be like for every female character to be stunning and brave, some of them more powerful than all the men? Well, I guess we'll just have to wait for feminism to rewrite an existing franchise for that to happen, because NOBODY ever wrote stories like that before literally right now.
(Need I say "/sarc"? Need I?)
Because it’s a GuyLad
I noticed when she boarded the ship to go to middle Earth, her hair was loose. On the ship, her hair was French-braided and hanging down her back. Range of motion for wearing armor is not very suitable for French braiding! Are we to believe that she did it herself, or that she allowed a grubby human to touch her precious, precious locks? Also, her braid is obviously not worn on top of her head.
For the record, Éowyn's hair was loose during battle, but that is OK because it was out of her face and underneath the helmet. French braids under a helmet can be quite uncomfortable for the record.
That's what I want to know...
🤔
I think we just have appreciate how stunning and brave amazon are to increase the diversity of the entertainment industry by hiring exclusively from the short bus
I know they’re really going against the grain with this one, really taking risks.
I thought you were gonna mention that Amazon thinks adding 2 black people to the cast equals diversity
@@masterhakk ngl noone cares bout the color but these lads feel like drama class dropouts
not only that, they only hired the ones that were giggling and licking the windows. stunning and brave.
Don't forget how they aided diversity by paying their female leads significantly less than the male leads...
They pretty much made Galadriel into a psychopath with her constant manipulation and using others.
Indeed they did but I think that her psychopathic traits aren't written on purpose or is due to bad writing. I think those psychopathic traits are actually coming from the writers. I think they inserted their way of thinking, handling a situation, getting what they want etc. into that character and others in the show as well since this show oozes with psychopathic behaviour. Can't wait to see season 2 lol
It's an ideological problem which we're seeing in a lot of recent Hollywood projects. They want Galadriel to be GIRLBOSS, so that means she can't take any direction from men or ever be wrong. And being GIRLBOSS she knows this. What everyone sees, then, is someone who THINKS everything they do is right even when they shouldn't. Of course the writers will make her right in the end, but they're too close to the work to see that this doesn't happen to normal humans and instead of making her justified, it just makes her seem an insufferable, antagonistic Karen.
REAL heroes are humble because they know that can and do make mistakes and they need other people. GIRLBOSS is the opposite of this.
"I will torture and kill your children!" - Galadriel to Adar
She’s just a strong women. Stunning and brave
Tolkien never said Harry Potter wasn't in Lord of the Rings.
I’ve had hemorrhoids with better intentions than Galadriel in RoP
“The sea is always right” always gets me 😂
Haha, same here! You would think it would be a parody of the show, but it’s shockingly officially part of the screenwriter’s vision. How the fig did this get through the filtering process?
Praise the waves
Except it's not right for every occasion - you can't quench your thirst by drinking seawater.
My favourite one is “there is a tempest in me” I’m always going to use it
@@kristiandimitrov7066 I use that as a euphemism for a fart
Very well said Disparu. We have seen over and over again that Hollywood has no clue anymore what a good person is. This is not related to their lack of writing talent but their corrupt morals.
Mars Attacks tried to warn us.
I dunno man. I think honestly it really is more related to the garbage quality of the writing of these shows. She hulk, Rings of power, it’s astonishing how bad the pacing and especially the dialog is. And they can’t even be bothered to keep freaking MODERN SLANG out of a show taking place in middle earth 🤦🏻♂️.
There is still SOME decent stuff coming out of Hollywood these days however it is few and far between. It’s these giagantoc corporations like Amazon and Disney buying up all the elite IP and then what, cheating out and handing it over to children who have no experience whatsoever. Like what the hell happened here Amazon. EVEN EVEN EVEN if you wanted to “modernize” Tolkien for the “way the world is in 2022” as seen by Hollywood, how does it get handed to SUCH incompetent writers?? They spend 250 million or whatever for the rights to appendices, go “nahhh we don’t need the rights to the silmarillion, it’ll be fine….” And then hire people who have NO experience. Are they saving money? Why aren’t they hiring the best and most established writers in Hollywood with a history of success? Boggles the mind
@@tsl0073 I'm not saying they don't have bad writing, it's absolutely horrendous. What I'm saying is their bad writing makes it clear they don't understand morals. They have no understanding what Good or Evil actually is.
As an example, the Hobbits are written extremely poorly... OK, everything is written extremely poorly. But, the hobbits are evil creatures. There's zero resemblance of these Harfoots to the Hobbits of Peter Jackson's movies. The ROP Hobbits are more than happy to leave tribe members behind to die if they cause even the slightest inconvenience to the rest of the group.
Even when you remove the bad writing you are still left with the lack of any morals in how they act. There's no sympathy, there's no gratitude and there's a very quick impulse to murder those who cause them any problems. So it is both bad writing but also zero understanding of what good and evil actually is. They are not exclusive of each other.
No. They know exactly what they are doing. This show really isn't for you. It's not for any audience. The political backlash is the intent. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, it all comes back to Blackrock. The most influential company in the world, and largest stock broker. A company that has stocks in, or has stocks in the company that has stocks in, the most powerful companies in the world. All of this is for their CEO. Someone who's hyperprogressive in a certain aspect. Namely identity politics and diversity. He has a history of sending letters to his clients demanding they take steps in the direction of this type of extreme diversity/progressivism. It's my firm belief that they are LOOKING for political backlash to keep him happy. "Look at all the racists that are getting upset at our progressive diversity!". And guess what? Black Rock are one of Amazons largest stock holders. And it's anyone's guess how many of their other stockholders are majority owned by Blackrock.
It explains why so many companies are doing this despite it not being profitable at all. It explains why it came out of nowhere. And it explains why the outrage seems to be the intent rather than anything else. Realistically speaking, if you cared about diversity and have more than a single braincell, you'd understand that this simply worsens the issues of racism/sexism.
All of this is public knowledge by the way. I'm, unfortunately, not making any of this up. It's just never talked about for some reason. I haven't even explained how Blackrock became the #1 investment management company in the world. (An AI called Aladdin...) It's crazy shit. Unfortunately, I don't believe that most companies all managed to go completely braindead in this one specific area out of nowhere. I don't believe that all of the competent writers just disappeared and are in short supply. I think they know who they're hiring, and know where this is going. Because they benefit more from keeping the world's biggest investment company happy than any of us.
@@pagatryx5451 Every once and a while a comment explains what is going on in a very believable way. You are digging past the relatively milk toast "answers" which blame individual companies for somehow no longer being able to figure out that they aren't making money. You've started to really explain the phenomenon. This isn't just "incompetence", this is purposeful.
Disa is going full Lady MacBeth. The problem is I’m not sure the showrunners understand that Lady MacBeth is A VILLAIN!
Writing a subtle and deep character such as LMcB _and_ telling a tragic story of descent (which is what Shakespeare excelled at) what be a wonderful direction for RoP. Sadly that would be too difficult with the current production team.
"My husband is so ugly and disgusting no woman would have him expect me despite he is a kind and wealthy prince!" - Disa talking to Elrond about Durin
Shame on you for accepting that role on Picard.
3:09 Tolkien did write a comprehensive guide to Elvish hairstyles, when he wrote that the bowstrings used by elves were strands of their own hair, twisted into shape for the purpose.
Yeah, the only context where a buzzcut would make sense for a Tolkien Elf is if he was captured by Orcs and had it forced upon him, lol.
@@whenpigsfly8178 Or an elf in a rebellious teenage phase, “No mom! I don’t want to be an archer, I want to perform interpretive dance!”
@@Ostentatiousnessness 😂😂😂👌
@@whenpigsfly8178 Apparently native American elves use that haircut.
Also zero Christopher Tolkien objection to the portrayal of exclusively long haired elves in Jackson's work.
But of course, and we are the evil ones for wishing to keep the lore correct.
you do know that tolkiens lore isnt being changed right you are aware yeah?
I haven’t read the books and the show is still shit
@@paulelroy6650 Probably not, because it isn't true.
@Kenneth Billings One fella on Twitter just wanted me to admit I'm racist, misogynist and transphobic after criticising it and after I said the racial abuse isn't happening, IIRC. I just didn't see any proof of it, was unsure about it, felt that was a pointless virtue signal and that some doing it didn't represent everyone as a whole.
@@paulelroy6650 You're right, because they didn't put anything but names in. Everything else is complete rubbish created by 3rd rate "writers."
Tolkien may not have described the hairstyles of Elves but visual media uses visual language to convey ideas, ideas such as knowing who is and isn't an Elf on screen without a character pointing it out. Since time immemorial Elves have been portrayed with long hair, ROP's Elves having short hair look indistinguishable from the race of men, so their answer to that question makes them sound so incompetent they don't even understand their own craft. My advice to them is shut up, because every time they open their mouths the showrunners make themselves sound like increasingly bigger simpletons.
Tolkien didn't have a style guide, but his work was adapted MANY times during his life and he was VERY outspoken about what he thought were errors. I've read some of his letters where he's furious about how someone portrayed orcs. I'm sure he would be vastly more so if they screwed up elves. This IS a kind of style guide.
The elves have pointy ears. There’s no difficulty confusing them with the races of men
@@ravenwda007 in RoP their ears are covered 90% of the time, not to mention the lack of their "ethereal glow" They had in PJ's movie trilogy.
All the hair cuts in the show are bizarre and cheap. Elrond with a mullet is just not something I’m willing to accept
So... how do you distinguish long-haired people like Faramir, Eowyn, Boromir, Aragorn, Gimli, Gandalf, Saruman, and pretty much everybody who isn't a Hobbit from Elves?
I can't believe that the whole village survived that molten volcanic ash blast to the face. And the improbable coincidences of running into Halbrand and then the Numenorian captain whilst stranded at sea in the middle of bloody nowhere made that whole story thread unbelievable.
In theory they wanted to be "Scientifically accurate" but then they forgot what happened in Pompeii, Mount Saint Helens, etc
Modern Feminism doesn't care about logic. Only feelings matter.
The whole fact the only ones that died were "Red shirts" and only the main characters had plot armor against a pyroclastic flow but look at my boy Thranduil and what dragons did to him.
What they don't know is that the sea intended to drown her.
The sea is always right.
Well, they made a series so bad that I'm rooting for Sauron.
They have not seen what we have seen.
Yes the actual Appendices!
Lol
There's a tempest in me! Pardon, I have to visit the bathroom
@@daveeyes she had to much taco bell
I lasted 4 episodes and now admittedly watch the reviews for schadenfreude. This show is a gold mine for CZcamsrs.
Rings of Power is what happens when you type "Second Age Tolkienesque fantasy series" into a showrunner AI program and it mashes together a large volume of extant fantasy concepts and fragments of dialogue together into something vaguely resembling a fantasy series.
Then you click on the modifier to add Extra-Annoying Small People and yank the Strong Women slider all the way over and set a billion dollars alight.
Yup
OMG LMAO That was great 👍
You are wrong AI writers can write something way better story compare to rings of power showrunners
Still can't believe season 2 is already being made.
Genuinely not much would make me happier than it getting cut off mid filming and I'm not even a Tolkien fan
Because every moron keeps watching and complaining the show gets views so why wouldn't they they're not losing.
The lag between brain and blasphemy practically ensures good money being thrown after bad in Hollywood.
whoever green lit that should be fired yesterday
I'm surprised they have only just started means there was some doubt.
Even better? Amazon Studios scorned and fired the showrunner that then basically fell into HBO's lap and is running House of the Dragon. They created their own worst enemy, thus twisting the knife even harder.
House of dragon isn’t good either
Not to mention they then hired two no name producers
@@emhu2594 From what I hear, at least it has a cohesive story.
@@kutlumzrak2689 yes, it's probably a 6/10 soap opera in a fantasy setting with decent acting.
Ring of Power is a 3/10 CGI video game cutscene written by AI in comparison
House of Dragon is great
After, Guyaladriel, the Warrior Princess has been debunked over and over again, by multiple people, with quotes and sources included, the people fighting to be the Amazon employee of the month, has now leeched into a Tolkien quote themselves, hoping for a "gotcha moment".
Still they failed.
The quote in question is such:
"She was then of Amazon disposition and bound up her hair as a crown when taking part in athletic feats."
The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, Letter 348
First, being of "Amazon disposition" refers to the fact, that she is "man-high", as Tolkien called her, 193 cm tall. Amazons, if you did not know, weren't small and skinny, but big and powerful. Which Galadriel is. Which we already stated.
According to the Oxford Dictionary, Amazon literally means "a tall strong woman". See here. (Meanwhile, Amazon gave the role to an actress who's 161 cm, and also looks 161 cm, in the show)
"The first definition of the word "amazon" on the Oxford Dictionary is: (in ancient Greek stories) a woman from a group of female warriors (= soldiers). Do we throw it away? ok..." - CZcams comment from an Amazon enthusiast
Yes, we do, because the word amazon literally means "A tall strong woman". That's the literal definition, as stated in the Oxford Dictionary.
And we do know that the word is used in the literal sense, given that the literal meaning actually fits Galadriel - she is a strong, and tall woman. 193 cm should qualify.
On the other hand, in all of Tolkien's writings, there's literally only a single event, where she takes part in a battle, and only then simply to protect her kin, because she has to. And then she was horrified by it afterwards.
Also, if you notice, the first definition the above person tries to use explicitly states, that this definition is "in ancient Greek stories", and we also do know that Galadriel is not from ancient Greek stories, she is from Tolkien's stories.
Again, just to make sure everyone gets it this time - the literal definition does fit Galadriel, the greek mythology one does not.
And no, the "Tolkien did not explicitly say, that she never fought in other events, despite giving us a lot of details about her life" claim is not in any way, shape or form, a valid argument that she could have been a warrior. By that logic, there were Sith Lord at Helm's Deep, because "Tolkien didn't specifically state that there weren't".
Literally everything Tolkien gives us about Galadriel (and he gives us plenty) is in stark contrast with Amazon's vision of her.
I mean, just yesterday, a trailer dropped where Galadriel claims that she does not know, who to be without a sword.
Yeah, she has been with Celeborn since the First Age (whom she very much loved, more than anyone else), and since the year 300 of the Second Age, Galadriel was also a mother. That was over 1000 years before the show takes place. And yet, she does not know, what to be without a sword? A sword is something that's not even associated with Tolkien's Galadriel.
Second, taking part in athletic feats is NOT the same as going into battle. I take part in athletic feats multiple times a week, and yet, I've never been to a single battle.
Third, nowhere in this quote does it say, that she was a warrior, that she has taken part in many battles, or that she lead any kind of army anyplace, anytime. In fact, we know that she did not, and the one battle she was forced to take part in, the Kinslaying of Alqualondë, she was disgusted by.
"Galadriel, despairing now of Valinor and horrified by the violence and cruelty of Fëanor, set sail into the darkness without waiting for Manwë’s leave, which would undoubtedly have been withheld in that hour, however legitimate her desire in itself."
Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth
Fourth, even if it did, her depiction in the Amazon series would still be wrong, given that Rings of Power Galadriel does not bind up her hair while she "takes part in athletic feats".
I heard some people try to spin her name "Man-Maiden" as proof, that she in fact, was a butch woman who acted like a man, and was a great warrior.
Which is once again, completely false.
Tolkien explicitly states, why she was called that, and it's not because she was some butch Slay Queen.
It was her height. She was very, very tall for a woman.
"Her mother-name was Nerwen ‘man-maiden’, and she grew to be tall beyond the measure even of the women of the Noldor; "
The Peoples of Middle-Earth.
Did I mention that Mother Mary was one of Tolkien's biggest inspirations for Galadriel's character? Hardly a warrior archetype. Even if Galadriel is prouder, than Mary.
"I was particularly interested in your remarks about Galadriel. .... I think it is true that I owe much of this character to Christian and Catholic teaching and imagination about Mary, but actually Galadriel was a penitent: in her youth a leader in the rebellion against the Valar (the angelic guardians). At the end of the First Age she proudly refused forgiveness or permission to return. She was pardoned because of her resistance to the final and overwhelming temptation to take the Ring for herself."
The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, Letter 320
Can the Amazon employees finally admit that they are wrong on this?
They are not wrong, yOu'Re EeeeVuuuul!
What an incredibly well researched comment! Thank you for taking the time to explain it so well! If they take the "man maiden" so literally, I'm surprised they have not yet insinuated that she is non-binary or something. I want the show runners to explain what their definition of masculinity is!
No, they can't.
Thank you for this. No, they cannot admit that they are wrong or their entire stinking house of cards (each one a joker) will collapse in on them.
Good point. All of Tolkien's accounts of her youth note that she excelled at athletic games. That is what the "like an amazon" refers to.
Tolkien considered the idea of her fighting to defend the Teleri during the Kin-Slaying. That is the only time that he showed her engaging in any sort of combat. And he dropped that idea anyway.
I watched the first 2 episodes. I was done after that. We knew what it was going to be. They did exactly what we thought they would. I’m a thorough fantasy consumer. Tolkien is the one. Amazon had it handed to them. They screwed it up.
I did exactly the same. I thought 2 episodes would provide the incentive to continue if there was one. That didn't happen. So I decided to watch the reaction videos and if it got better I could always binge watch it later. That didn't happen either.
They did the same thing with Y: The Last Man. I feel like I mention that show and no one even knows what I'm talking about...and it should have been a huge hit.
any example of criticism? they do not have the rights for the silmarillion but they do quite a good job under these circumstances. and dont telll me "because its inaccurate", so were the lotr movies and i bet u love those
@@fabulous9502 They negotiated and outbid others to get limited rights and tons of restrictions and knew exactly what they were paying for. These are the circumstances that they agreed to. It's not just the story, it's bad film making. With the exception of the cinematography, everything else is poorly done. Writing, wardrobe, lighting, set design, direction, nearly every aspect is poorly done.
@@fabulous9502, the Peter Jackson movies were a billion times more Tolkien faithful than "Rings of Power" by Amazon. 🤦🏻♂️
A psychopath will never admit any mistakes and will tell pathological lies every time. When that doesn't work they verbally abuse any opposition or even physically attack them.
hahaha. this is a tv show. either watch it or dont. the way you guys talk about the showrunners is crazy. the way you children act its like someone has killed someone close to you
@@paulelroy6650
Don't like don't watch?
It's part of beloved franchise
Of course people will be mad
@@paulelroy6650 If you care so little, why bother commenting? If it's so trivial, why not find something better to do with your time? These are rhetorical questions that don't really need an answer.
@@paulelroy6650 You're so mad about other people's opinions you're not only watching their videos on CZcams, you're reading the comments and answering to them. "I'm not mad you're mad"
@@paulelroy6650 An inane and pretty huge self-own. If it's just a show and no one should get so worked up about it, what the hell are you doing trolling comments on video reviews about it? Do you really have nothing else in your life? Also, your grammar is... let's be nice and just say it's not good.
Thank you for suffering through the 8 hours on my behalf.
imagine being so anti a show put still watching it. this guy is a fucking idot
A sacrifice we cannot repay.
It actually gives hope that people like you that are even younger than the showrunners still have a much more balanced and well overthought morality....that's very good to see...and it's so important that some of you are talented enough to put your ethics into well crafted and logically brilliant comments, so other people see that not everyone's as vile and despicably self centered like the tribe of tinseltown. I really respect your work and am very grateful for your refined thoughts!!! ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💕
Hear Hear!!!
LOL. Oh yeah, the level of "well crafted" triggered commentary is so refined and "ethical". Dude, they are calling the idiot's running the series the most vile names and giving them the worst motives in their writing. These commentators are worse then the showrunners. The showrunner have zero agenda. They just can't write. But the rabid conservatives here have a huge, angry agenda of hate and conspiracy addled bullshit.
Nicely stated & I agree.
You don't need to binge anything all you need to do is watch the trailer then watch the final episode and you are all caught up .
I only know of one thing slower than this show: a snail.
A dead snail.
Run over by a truck on a highway.
If they're the good guys, I'll take evil, thank you very much.
"Το κακό δεν μπορεί να δημιουργήσει τίποτα καινούργιο, μπορεί μόνο να διαφθείρει και να καταστρέψει όλα τα έργα που οι καλές δυνάμεις έχουν εφεύρει ή κατασκευάσει." - J.R.R. Tolkien
Quote him correctly, in English.
@@brucetucker4847 I've seen you in other comment sections defending Amazon's atrocity of a series and antagonizing the Tolkien fandom. You are obviously an SJW from twatter. And I got news for you. Elon Musk has agreed to buy twitter. And he will soon clean it from all the filth, such as yourself, currently residing in there. I predict a great twitter exodus in the same way that that all the weirdos left tumblr.
@@brucetucker4847 it's a direct quote from a famous Oxford Thursday Feta Night...
The Dwarves didn't dig for mithril to help the elves. They dug because they were too greedy. And that's how the Balrog was uncovered.
Well these writers arr dumb so..I'm not sure I remember mithril being needed to save the elves either
@@jasonsnow4177, it doesn't make sense that Elves need it now. Where was the need for Mithril for the elves during the war of wrath in tones of Morgoth terror regime? Or later in 3rd age?
A little detail often unspoken on that entire topic - its in the books that dwarves have been mining mithril in moria since the FIRST age. So we shouldn't be considering the details of this plot at all. "We just discovered mithril." "What have we be mining these past 3000 years? then?" "Mithril." "so what have we discovered?" "More mithril."
Following their reasoning, Tolkien never said Darth Vader wasn't in LOTR... so... I expect to see him as Sauron's right hand in season 2.
I'm expecting to see M1 Garands and fire bending season 2. Azula can teach Sauron how to shoot lightning.
Well, as Disparu already noticed, they introduced Doctor Who in season 1 😂
@@marinovuletic8154 Riiight, I forgot the Numinorians are actually all Time Lords 😂
@@Mimo-ye5pm And Galadriel is the Doctor (and also not a time lord 🤫)
They would be a great team. Lord Vader has even the same taste for a living place like Lord Sauron. 😂😆Sauron lives in Mordor and Vader on Mustafar.
Queen Disa is very evil, and a one for one metaphor for the writers.
The idea that they can change Tolkien's legacy is simply hilarious. 50 yerars from now it will still be one of the most beloved stories in the world, noone is going to remember this crap show even existed
The 1978 Star Wars Holiday Special will be remembered fondly in comparison.
Well, Tolkien didn't write that Galadriel didn't fight Darth Vader in a Romanian brothel. So...
Gandalf seems like someone that probably would be a fan of Oreos and kitkats.
If they actually existed in his world.
"They passed in thought out to regions where pain and delight flow together" A Tolkien quote that in the context of Rings of Power brings to mind a cross between the movies A Clockwork Orange and Hellraiser.. eyes forced open while entering hell.
Disparu: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?"
Rings of Power: *"I AM THE HYPE!!!"*
Disparu:"Not yet"
Rings of Power:"It's treason then... Aaarrrrr"
They used to say, "We don't do it for the critics, we do it for the fans."
Now, it's like, "We don't do this for the fans, we actually hate the fans and don't care what they think, and we think the fans are evil. Heck we even hate the original creator and writer and we only care about our own opinions."
How can I be evil when I don't identify half-foot
They have no right jumping to conclusions about their audience
They’re not getting a cent from me
He probably does. Meanwhile, Shad has to copy Nathan's papers.
I'm totally cool with whatever they want to say about their audience.
... it's not like I'm part of it anyway.
Jumping to conclusions is obviously wrong.
Tbf they have been given ALOT of valid feedback/criticscm about this show and seem to be sat there with their eyes shut and fingers in their ears going "lalalala". Gross Incompetence seems to be the new cool in Hollywood. Does make you wonder if Bezos is oblivious to all of this too, that man has quite the ego so somebody must be lying to him
When you said they were “correcting Tolkien”, why did the scene from the Shining flash in my head with Delbert Grady explaining to Jack “when my wife tried to prevent me from doing my duty, I corrected her”
It’s funny how an antagonist from the Shining and the Rings of Power show runners both use “correcting” as a euphemism for “murdering”.
Amazon Studios helped the future career of the individual playing Galadriel. I am sure as we speak she is getting thousands of offers to play villains and I am sure she will do a wonderful job in that
Sorry but I doubt it. Nowadays wahmen are always the hero.
I could see her as the haughty version of early Emma Frost.
I could see her play a Mannequin
The Sea is always right is just a allegory for: Payne and Mckay are always right... How any human can watch this show and think any of the main characters are written well or even good people is beyond me....
And it's one of the dumbest lines ever. Tolkien never had any group/nation utter anything like it.
The Sea is always wet.
I dont know if disparu writes his scripts all by himself or not but damn if he isnt always spot on!
It's almost the same fucking script video after video. He knows where how is bread is buttered and it's from attacking Rings of Power.
@@joeterzio7175 do you have your own channel where we might admire you in all of your glory?
@@joeterzio7175 Attacking, it's a garbage tv show not a person, attacking is such a dumb word to use over something as unimportant as a shit TV show
@@joeterzio7175 "attacking" 😂
Rare breed of person here that loves the show
Not so. He watches the show,reads the puff pieces, formulates his theses, articulates them and defends his positions. His overall position is wider than this one show and Amazon's promotions of it.
I love the part when guylandriel and rey defeated the emperor and sauron in a tag team match for championship belt no rules street fight throw feces at each other match for the power of grayskull on pay per view in the MWF (Mordor wrestling federation).
Showrunners,: "One cannot satisfy thirst by drinking seawater!"
Audience: "Those who disrespect fans get no sympathy!"
Fans? Where?
I always thought that saying was, "You can't satisfy your thirst by drinking poison." Meaning you can't satisfy anger with more anger and death. The point being forgiveness is better than revenge. This show is so terrible.
At this point I'm convinced the "creators" want us to root for Sauron and the Orcs. Hash brown Go Mordor!!!!!
The showrunners do have a moral compass, sadly it’s a roulette wheel.
[Edit I can’t claim that joke as my own, I nicked it from someone else.]
🤣🤣🤣
Now that the agony is nearly over (for season 1, at least), the question "what does Disparu cover next?" is looming larger.
Can't wait to see it, really. "Empowerment"!
Isn’t the Wheel of Time shit show season 2 coming up soon?
@@duke68318 I can't find a release date, but I assume so.
It's funny, but Elrond's twin sons Elladan and Elrohir are very bitter toward the orcs due to what they did to their mother, torturing her and breaking her spirit rather than outright killing her, and thus are on a crusade to kill every orc they possibly can, teaming up with the Rangers of the North, and it's not even known whether they sailed West or not. It's entirely possible they continued killing orcs until all the orcs were wiped out or they died, or perhaps they chose to become Men and die like their sister (or perhaps like their father and uncle, chose separate paths). The writers basically gave Galadriel the motivation and personality of her grandchildren lol.
I thought I read somewhere in a much later revised edition of appendices that they set sail to valinor after Eldarion took the throne? I might be wrong, it's been a long time since I went back to the books.
@@kutlumzrak2689 Sometimes it can be hard to tell what's exactly "canon" or not due to all of Tolkien's revisions, which is why I don't harp TOO much on unclarified subjects. It wouldn't surprise me if Tolkien had something more definitive to say later on, and overall I think in his latter years he was trying to make the story a little "happy" than grim compared to some of his earlier writings. I don't believe anything definitive has been said about Elrond's sons though.
They broke canon when she said that her husband Calaborn is dead
They will bring him back as a surprise in second season.
They wrote he was MIA. Big "surprise" will no doubt be revealed in a future season. Sigh...poor (and condescending) story arc conception on top of all the rest of their nonsense.
My Saturday night routine for the last couple months has been grilling a steak and settling in to Disparu ripping on She-hulk AND O-Rings of Chowder. Now that both shows are coming to an end, I don't know what I'm gonna do now
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Gimli (who in the novels is level headed, serious, and hitherto anti elven) was so in love with Galadriel from meeting her that three strands of her hair became his most prized possession and was immortalised as a symbol of eternal goodwill from dwarfs towards the elves to the end of days. The idea that she'd ever need to act like she does in the show (demanding to speak to people and being rude) is absurd, everyone would be utterly bewitched by being in her general vicinity.
Yes, the idea she's xena warrior princess is absurd, galadriel as a character is the equivalent of a ufo landing and a Nordic God alien comes out surrounded by golden light that feeds you and anti ages you just by looking at it or something. My point is she is a near deity, unrelatable and flooded with a nuanced elf magic that these writers aren't even keen on exploring because they can't. It's not shallow enough
It sounds like you haven’t read the Unfinished Tales. Even Christopher Tolkien says about Galadriel that there are “severe inconsistencies embedded in the traditions” of the “story of Galadriel and celeborn.” He goes on to explain that even J.R.R Tolkien contradicts himself in his writings of her history. JRRT described her as strong of body, mind, and will. A match for both loremasters and athletes of the eldar. She was wiser than even feanor but her wisdom increased with her long years. She was also proud, strong, and self willed. She had no peace within after the bliss of Valinor was dimmed. She ended up rebelling against the valar and left valinor to defeat morgoth. Because of her disobedience she was banned from valinor. After morgoth’s defeat she was offered a return to valinor which Tolkien writes that she turned down because of her pride. Pride is repeatedly described as being her primary motivation in the FA and SA.
If anything the show is making her out to be better than Tolkien describes her during this time period.
@@samgreen6395 Are they really though? They just contradicted even their own non-canon lore. Especially with Numenor's relationship with the rest of Middle Earth.
And for all intents and purposes, Galadriel was still an asshole even after the volcanic eruption, ignoring anyone who's on fire, except those that are needed for the plot that is.
@@ziephel-6780 She was in shock? You’re going to need a much more solid point than that to counter anything I explained.
@@samgreen6395 She helped out Theo, so why not a few more? That's a bs excuse tbh. Also, her plot-armor was strong enough to protect her from most of the volcano's ashes/fire. Which should've been enough to melt her away.
The hilarious part is they're going to declare this a giant triumph and then re-staff and re-cast season 2 massively.
Maybe not, actually. Though season 2 is already in the works, they have said that they are going to take YEARS making it instead of just cranking it out. This suggests that they are not just mindlessly grinding on, even if they can't publicly admit it. And perhaps the long time frame is to get the new replacements up to speed before they fire the old ones.
It doesn’t matter what they do from here on out, the well is poisoned.
Literally the ONLY thing that could save it, would be cancelling it, destroying this footage, Bezos himself making an apology for destroying English mythology, firing everyone involved, and starting again from scratch with genuine English scholars, and English writers who care for and respect the work.
Anything short of that and they can fuck right off.
@@HerculesBallsInc what sort of recasting? Aside from the two elderly kings pretty much everyone in the cast has to return.
@@christophersmith8316 I meant the writers and directors! That's some replacements the show desperately needs!
@@HerculesBallsInc They already fucked up this much, they literally have to restart everything back to blank-slate, so season 2 is technically season 1 2.0
I've always wanted to own a patent! Thank you showrunners!
Quick! Register it with the patent office!
Galadriel has good intention? Isn't that exactly the difference between a hero and a good villain? I mean a well written villain does have a fair point and a good reason most of the time (even if you disagree) but the way they do it is what defines a villain. You know the whole 'the end justify the means' thing...
A profound though. The end DOES justify the means. The hero is separated from the villain by which means he employs. And even then good and evil are subjective.
Galadriel fighting the orcs on RoP reminds me of an old episode of MST3K:
"Ah! Finally! The ultimate showdown between vaguely evil and somewhat ambiguous."
- Tom Servo, Escape 2000
Excellent!! As a California native, that not only describes Hollywood perfectly, but most out here on the left coast.
So "Tolkein never said" X didn't happen? How about all the stuff he said did happen you ignored, cut or took a steaming dump on? Disparu, you nailed it- these people have no morals. Or talent.
They don't even need to do one of this.
After the last episode, and how the volcano pyroclastic flow was selective on whom it attacked and burned, you kind of throw all logic out of the window, and simply say..."Fuck this show, I'm out!"
Hail Disparu :D
Imagine defiantly facing a pyroclastic flow and not even getting a little redness to your face - absolutely comical. All they had to do was have the survivors take cover and that would at least have been semi-believable, even if still absolutely ridiculous when you consider Pompeii for example.
800°C of pure nothing.
That was the dumbest scene I've ever seen in my opinion. Just really dumb and illogical. And 100% avoidable.
From episode 1 they have been suggesting the idea that "you need to do something bad before you can know what is good, and there is no such thing as morality to draw a line from." That very idea itself is patently evil.
The elves hair in rings of power could only be achieved with modern hair styling abilities.
I mean, the Elves make rope that unties itself and boats that can't sink, I don't think a little Dippity Do would be beyond their abilities.
I never thought they would find a way to make a franchise about people walking somewhere even longer 😐
that's not the problem, and if you simplify it that much, every movie is about a character going somewhere to do something, 95% of the time. And a lot of the time it's walking. I'll never understand that point of view, were you even watching the movie?
I would clip together that big scene of the harfoots talking about none left behind, next to 'take their wheels and leave them'.
Highlights how awful oil the writing is, and how awful a tribe the Hollywood has become. So shallow and vapid creatively that shoe horning Braveheart and war movie cliche lines gets so bad they cancel each other out.
When I saw that in episode 7 I about rolled my eyes.
It's also brilliant to note how they quote Galadriel to defend their argument. they're basically quoting themselves. i'm dead...
Holy hell, it's like they've never heard that saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". Just because you mean well doesn't mean that you're taking the right actions. Guyladriel is a freaking monster. In no way would any good intentions make her any less so.
I'm calling it early, the Harfoots will be offered the ring & take it gladly - "Instead of a dark lord you will have a wee Harfoot, small & stout & smelling terrible, treacherous as the sea, filthier than the midden pits of the orcs, detested & deplored, all will loath us and despair!"
Also, how much projection from the showrunners?
I will actually pay if they do this.
I would rather be called "patently evil" than a "rings of power fan".
My friend. You nailed it. The people making this thing can't tell good from evil. Because of that one thing the show runners can never understand why real people are disgusted by what Amazon has made.
Can I just get Az, Gary, Disparu, and Shad to write a show because that'd actually be worth watching
Right!
Shad is actually a dimwit, and his writing is no better than these showrunners.
Oh definitely.
Your channel is by far the best channel for analyzing what is wrong with TV shows. Other channels out there are lazy and stupid and just read what other people wrote and said or just repeat what others have said. You actually analyze the episodes and put some work into it.
By far. Shad forced laugh and faked outrage has gone old and is ridiculous & pathetic by now. He's gonna pop that vein...
It's all show but little true content. (Except Nathan 's remarks)
Only some, not all. What about the likes of deep analysis by Critical Drinker? In any event, most are infinitely more entertaining/interesting than RoP...
@@JohnBeeblebrox Critical Drinker is in the same vein as this guy as he also makes sarcastic remarks. I had some very specific CZcamsrs in mind who literally just read what other articles say about these shows and politics in general. Disparu's break down of every episode is more entertaining than the episode.
@@reallybigjohnson Agreed. Those who merely regurgitate a posting or article can be a bit tedious. Those adding "value" are far more interesting than the RoP production itself ;-)
"Tolkien technically didn't specify that Sauron WASN'T a goldfish"
RoP: "We will make the best and legendary show never before existed!"
Also RoP = Fail to understand the difference of hero and villain.
Everyone: "You mean the biggest failure of a show ever existed?"
Tolkien never said the showrunner is not shit
If they created this show to reflect the morals and ideals of today's world then I am really thankful that I am old and will die soon as I don't want to live in a world where the behaviours of these characters in "normal"
Have hope old fella, these people writing this have no idea what good and evil is, they are empty of understanding because they are biased by how right they already were all the time. These types of people have always existed and always failed. Let the near instinctual rejection of this show by nearly everyone give you peace.
When you learn that Payne and McKay came from the same debate club in high school, you understand just how they got so much spin and twisted meanings in the article.
Galadriel was never cruel or driven by revenge, she was above all that as both an elf and someone with powers that made her more nuanced.
She was too powerful, too wise and too experienced. And the Ring she would later wield changed NOTHING about her.
Nuance being the key word ... something modern writers don't know
The only reason House of the Dragon gets a pass is because the show runners, and the author as I have heard, throw sex, blood, and dragons into every episode. I didn't watch Game of thrones for that reason either. The reason why Rings of Power is failing isn't because of the budget. The CGI is some of the best, outside of a few things. It's the bad writing, and the constant rewriting of Tolkien that makes it bad. I think many fans like me, that has read the writings of Tolkien, would have been fine with a few changes. But when you basically begin to crap on his work you get Rings of Power; that has not even touched the creation of the Rings of Power.
Lol u are the GOAT when it comes to ripping this show apart 👍
My favorite moment of the show was when the harfoots slithered out from under the rocks an merged together like a megazord and told Galadriel "The real Sauron was the Harfoots you met along the way!"
They are like children telling their parents, “you didn’t say I couldn’t kick other kids, you just said behave myself."
If Tolkien’s fans are “patently evil” and “fascist-adjacent”, then so is JRR Tolkien himself, and his son Christopher.. and Tom Shippey....
you are not Tolkien fans
"Our Harfoot ways, more vile than our toe jam!"
To be fair, I DID like when Admiral Guyladriel assumed command of U-96 and shouted, "Torpedo eins und zwei, los!". Her sinking of the vile minelayer, USS Patriarchy, underlined her stunning and brave resolve.
Rings of Power knows it can afford to insult fans so much that nobody watches the show. It's being paid for entirely thru Amazon Prime subs and nobody's cancelling their sweet cheap/free/fast delivery sub to avoid watching a show on a streaming service most of us aren't using despite paying for anyway. Remember that email you got back in April or so? Amazon said they were raising the price by $20 a year or $2 a month in order to keep bringing us more shows like Wheel of Time and Rings of Power. They don't care if you hate the shows-they knew that no one was going to watch it 6 months ago when it was first announced and they paid off the first season by just raising the price of Prime subs.
The world is bigger than America, friend. I don’t know a single person with an Amazon sub.
Absolutely spot on, as usual. There is not one single likeable character in this entire tripe. It's actually mind-boggling.
A one man standup bit, sermon, closing arguments, tour de force as always. Your mocking cartoony clueless character voice is absolutely brilliant too!!
Thank you for being so eloquent and putting my thoughts into focus. Well done!
''eloquent'' hahaha
"Tolkien never said it *didn't* happen!" Ah, yes, the old "Air Bud" argument: "There's nothing in the rules that says a dog *can't* play basketball..."
Some of those lines in the article sound like quotes from Pinhead. Next, I was expecting to hear, " we'll tear your soul apart!"