Kaabo Wolf Warrior 11 Review, Baddest Scooter On The Planet

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  • čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
  • The Kaabo Wolf Warrior 11 (geni.us/WolfWarrior11?track=yt) is a high performance beast. Voted Baddest scooter on the planet by redditors and we agree.
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    00:00 - Intro
    Performance: 2:33
    Portability: 5:46
    Trunk Test: 6:12
    How to lock: 7:23
    Ride Quality: 7:41
    Build Quality: 9:23
    Drop Test: 10:18
    Safety Features: 11:27
    Customer Service: 13:20
    Who’s it For?: 13:33
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  • @tonymarchant9083
    @tonymarchant9083 Před 3 lety +57

    great review, i have just ordered one of these and im 58 years old lol .

  • @andredrayton5668
    @andredrayton5668 Před 3 lety +2

    This was a superb video. Very descriptive. Thank you!

  • @galassio9536
    @galassio9536 Před 4 lety +6

    Great video, I like how you evaluate scooters in real world scenarios.
    Now I would like to see maintenance videos of all the scooters you have reviewed.
    How to change parts when they break.
    How to replaced disc brakes, wheels
    rims, batteries, adjust loose handles bars, fix hydraulic breaks, etc.
    Because the quality of your videos are better. You have good lights, camera angle, editing, and clear narration.
    Thank you.

  • @EddiePotatoes
    @EddiePotatoes Před 4 lety +4

    Great review, as always.

  • @yossi7988
    @yossi7988 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video!

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc Před 4 lety +2

    Love the Neck with "No Stem Wobble" - this should be incorporated on the Lighter and more Portable Scooters. Great info.

  • @mi5veezee
    @mi5veezee Před 3 lety +2

    God willing ill be buying one later this summer. Still waiting on my Apollo Ghost taking forever.

    • @RedsBigRig
      @RedsBigRig Před 3 lety

      I'm very very interested as well!!! Please keep me updated if you get it!! Im currently saving up for one as well.. I want a fast 45 mph plus scooter for this price range as well

  • @chevegan
    @chevegan Před 4 lety +2

    Take it from a motorcycle rider of 20 years with 3 crashes under his belt.......protective gear is not just a helmet. Need correct gloves anything over 15 and knee protection anything over 25. I've torn a pair of armored gloves in an 18mph crash

  • @ricobeusekamp8351
    @ricobeusekamp8351 Před 2 lety +1

    59 is never to old,,my wolf11 is on the way !

  • @jdny1
    @jdny1 Před 4 lety

    I have a second gen wide wheel. would like to see a video on the weped gt50e. I am thinking of an upgrade ;)
    Thanks for all the great work!!!!

  • @phattacorider
    @phattacorider Před 3 lety +2

    It would be nice to see a comparison of the apollo pro, zero 10x, kaabo mantis, and nanrobot d6+. They all seem fairly similar in build and design, and have fairly similar power specifications

  • @genkuroshuriken3502
    @genkuroshuriken3502 Před 4 lety +9

    I want one! Still a little way off my budget, but I'll get one soon... God willing!

  • @alfredsmalley25
    @alfredsmalley25 Před 4 lety +1

    First of all let me say that I loved the review. I thought it was very informative. One thing I do think that you are forgetting when you talk about portability, that is that most cars back seat folds down if not all of them. Please consider this when you talk about portability.

  • @bigup7777
    @bigup7777 Před 4 lety +5

    Chuck, did you forget to add the customer service test part?

  • @FlyWithMe_666
    @FlyWithMe_666 Před 3 lety +7

    9:19 and 11:46: just loosen the screws on the controller and rotate it downwards more parallel to the ground until your hand is flat and doesn’t need to flex. The almost vertical position you’re using can be really painful after a while.

  • @davidvosk8146
    @davidvosk8146 Před 4 lety

    Great review , thanks for all the great insight

  • @esrider7765
    @esrider7765 Před 4 lety +1

    That is a bit of a beast. ! Been looking at mantis pro as that is a bit more user friendly.

  • @Fangsinurface
    @Fangsinurface Před 3 lety +1

    Id love to see the maxx outstorm vs the wolf!!

  • @duane617
    @duane617 Před rokem

    Best purchase ever!

  • @rollofffrank2008
    @rollofffrank2008 Před 4 lety

    Please review the super fast Yume D4+ Thanks Chuck!

  • @delavega989
    @delavega989 Před 4 lety +5

    Did anyone check on the asphalt after that drop test?

  • @gregboyle7898
    @gregboyle7898 Před 3 lety

    Great & thorough review, can you please tell me if this scooter, or any other E-scooters have regen brakes? .... I live on a super steep hill and this feature would be very useful.

    • @chrisnearingcom
      @chrisnearingcom Před 2 lety

      Did you ever find out how it does on hills. In similar situation.

  • @juggaloclownpreacher
    @juggaloclownpreacher Před 3 lety +1

    I think the weight of the wolf Warrior is a safety feature because you got to be strong to run off with that talk about an anti-theft feature.

  • @elijaha4279
    @elijaha4279 Před 4 lety +2

    Can you review a dualtron on your channel there awesome. I just got mines like 3 months ago. 50 mph

  • @ESG-ElectricScooterGuide

    🤑Save $200 off with the coupon code: electric-scooter.guide4wolf 🤑

    • @OGdrodro
      @OGdrodro Před 3 lety

      have you rode the solar p1 pro or any of the solar scooters i mean if not you should

  • @NullnVoidDnv
    @NullnVoidDnv Před 4 lety +1

    Review a Rion Re 70 or 90. Would love your opinion

  • @usm7924
    @usm7924 Před 4 lety

    Hey Chuck, I wanted to ask your opinion on Kreisler Motors.
    I’m interested in getting a Wolf Warrior. Fluid Freeride has it for $2,999 with a free second charger and 6 month warranty.
    Kreo is selling it for $2,599 with a 12 month warranty but no second charger (they sell it for $49.99).
    Would you vouch for Kreo, because it seems like Kreo definitely has the better deal.
    Thanks for your time, and keep it up with the awesome reviews!

  • @fredr2271
    @fredr2271 Před 3 lety

    that scooter is my dream

  • @ryarbrough1000
    @ryarbrough1000 Před 2 lety

    I wish one you reviewers would review the vsett super72!!!!!😉

  • @adrielacacio
    @adrielacacio Před 4 lety

    Hi Chuck, could you review the Evolv Pro please? Thanks so much

  • @santi8751
    @santi8751 Před 4 lety +3

    Hey Chuck I been looking into this escooter but I'm also looking at the rion re60 but would really appreciate if you can review it and put it thru your test

    • @angelgotti3273
      @angelgotti3273 Před 3 lety

      Rion is a high price to pay for death lol you want something with power and balls go get yourself honda 2005 125 2 stroke that thing will sit you back and make you realize you never wanted to go fast lol save your money with the rion besides the ridiculous wait time not worth it I just bought this scooter for 2k and let me tell what monster this thing is

    • @lionelhowell4972
      @lionelhowell4972 Před 2 lety +1

      Alien ride's I believe reviewed both the RE60, and RE90 his reviews are also straight forward with no discrimination!!!

  • @brycecampbell4845
    @brycecampbell4845 Před 3 lety

    Id like to see the wolf warrior vs nan robot LS7.

  • @orlandobridgeford7433
    @orlandobridgeford7433 Před 3 lety +1

    Could you safely provide your scooter reviews using the stated max rider weight?

  • @brandonhiggs88
    @brandonhiggs88 Před 4 lety +1

    when will you review the apollo pro?

  • @jjrod411925
    @jjrod411925 Před 4 lety +3

    Can you do a segment on the best and fastest scooters that doesn’t get flat tires. Thanks

    • @jasonolinger7585
      @jasonolinger7585 Před 3 lety

      this is my biggest problem!

    • @lionelhowell4972
      @lionelhowell4972 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jasonolinger7585use slime on any wheel , tube or tubeless.. all my scooters have it, and it Works!!!!

  • @Sheisintomalakasdino
    @Sheisintomalakasdino Před 3 lety +1

    the light has high power, low power and seizure modes

  • @lyndonramos3622
    @lyndonramos3622 Před 4 lety

    Loving this scooter!

  • @rollofffrank2008
    @rollofffrank2008 Před 4 lety +1

    They have it on Amazon

  • @joewilder
    @joewilder Před 4 lety

    They ought to offer a trailer. It could pull it. I could see shopping with it.

  • @ShawnThomas
    @ShawnThomas Před 4 lety +1

    Based on your experience, what do you think the range could possibly be for a 150 lbs rider who never really exceed 15 mph with this scooter? Thanks.

    • @ratchfordgeorge
      @ratchfordgeorge Před 3 lety +3

      i don't think people would buy this to ride just 15 mph

  • @atokillers
    @atokillers Před 2 lety +2

    Video says 42 miles but written review says 30.2 miles range. Which is it?

  • @MrDannysomebody
    @MrDannysomebody Před 4 lety +1

    Wish they could make a comfy seat for this scooter id consider buying it then

    • @IDGAF56852
      @IDGAF56852 Před 3 lety

      You can buy aftermarket seats for just about any scooter,i made one for my zero 10x, great for long distance trips.

  • @NaiNy540
    @NaiNy540 Před 3 lety +2

    Can you check out the OKIDAS Z4 5600. Tell me what you think About the scooter

  • @Fangsinurface
    @Fangsinurface Před 3 lety

    Can you guys do a maxx outstorm review pls??

  • @tmr2757
    @tmr2757 Před 3 lety

    Hi, is there anyway to know the real mileage of the scooter? In case you buy a second hand...

  • @fish611
    @fish611 Před 3 lety

    You should compare this scooter to the turbowheel phantom from ewheels

  • @gfunk1775
    @gfunk1775 Před 4 lety +3

    WOW! I'm just like...
    🔥WOW🔥 I'm ready to drop another $3K for this thing! Oh... wait... let me hold off until we get to the TRUNK TEST!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
    Awesome review Chuck and Team!
    Let me guess Rameer has a new Go To Daily Commuter! If he doesn't it sure looked like he should! I have never seen him look so comfortable during one of these videos than he looked on this one! Granted I think I heard him say once before he doesn't prefer something quite this fast, but seeing him test the suspension... I thought for sure he was going to just pop in a back flip off that deck! Thanks again for a...
    🔥GREAT 🔥REVIEW 🔥
    Seriously, thanks for adding the Trunk Test it truly is a Value Add to your reviews and was EXACTLY what I personally needed to see when making a decision (especially for a beast like this, most of those that get one of these are going to be like me... 🔥Adventure Seekers🔥
    And like me prefer to take the freeway/highway/toll road etc to get to the Adventure!)
    Confirmed towards the end of the video! RAMEER has a NEW GO TO!
    I also like the way you went into the brake explanation and difference as well. Damn I love LOVE those Headlights! WISH my Zero 10X had that feature!
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    Nice job Chuck and TEAM!

    • @BigDawgElectrics
      @BigDawgElectrics Před 4 lety +1

      GFunk hey man. Ramier here and your absolutely right this scooter was great. First scooter I really felt comfortable on and it’s a fun scooter. I took the speed up to 37mph on the road I was on. I’ve learned going faster is easy when you are on a scooter that you feel 100% safe on.

    • @foam27
      @foam27 Před 2 lety

      Chillllllllll........

  • @julianhamel1571
    @julianhamel1571 Před 4 lety

    Make a review of the zero 10 x 60v if possible!!

    • @serious-rc933
      @serious-rc933 Před 4 lety

      Bad brakes, Bad steering Rod clamp, Bad Suspension protector all dirt comes in.
      No Safe Lock ability.
      Good: Best Suspension, you can Change to air Suspensions.
      Cost less. Good range. Much Power.

  • @datdudeag6683
    @datdudeag6683 Před 2 lety

    Wheres the buy link and coupon code?

  • @barbaroshayreddin7398
    @barbaroshayreddin7398 Před 3 lety

    Can you review the G booster ?

  • @therealpinkyskull
    @therealpinkyskull Před 4 lety

    That thing can fit easily in my Mazda3 hatchback just like my road bikes do.

    • @dako8083
      @dako8083 Před 4 lety

      CARDIOMACHINE1 didn’t ask

  • @rubiconoutdoors3492
    @rubiconoutdoors3492 Před 3 lety +1

    I wonder if you can swap the bars out for Renthal bars

    • @wcasako
      @wcasako Před 3 lety

      That’s a good question / idea.

  • @marlenemaschke3763
    @marlenemaschke3763 Před 3 lety

    What is the going price of this scooter and how many watts is it?

  • @Lukas-mf3fn
    @Lukas-mf3fn Před 3 lety

    Which have better suspension the Wolf or zero 10x?

  • @elee325
    @elee325 Před 3 lety

    Review on Rober-by-Cycleboard?

  • @peterbenavides3898
    @peterbenavides3898 Před 3 lety

    Is the review on the 11 base or pro?

  • @paelojustinianoibarra1743

    Where can we buy this one pls

  • @havengar420
    @havengar420 Před 4 lety

    That is definitely one awesome scooter and a great test of it. I definitely want one. But it will not out perform the Rion re90 it goes over 100 plus mph, does not go off road but man is it a rocket.

    • @RobbyWonder
      @RobbyWonder Před 4 lety +8

      So, I just wanted to reply to how ridiculous your comment is. The Rion R90 is $7000 USD. The Wolf is 2800. 🤷‍♂️

    • @DUSTINKENNEDY383
      @DUSTINKENNEDY383 Před 3 lety

      @@RobbyWonder that's more like it

    • @RobbyWonder
      @RobbyWonder Před 3 lety

      @@DUSTINKENNEDY383 boohoo

    • @DUSTINKENNEDY383
      @DUSTINKENNEDY383 Před 3 lety

      @@RobbyWonder your going places man keep it up

    • @RobbyWonder
      @RobbyWonder Před 3 lety

      @@DUSTINKENNEDY383 thanks man! I appreciate you ❤️
      You have no idea how much that means coming from someone like you! ❤️

  • @axelizwhite2604
    @axelizwhite2604 Před 2 lety

    Do you recommend me to buy this or the dualtron victor 24 Ah?

  • @josephsanchez03
    @josephsanchez03 Před 3 lety

    Mantis 10 pro vs wolf warrior 11? Differences?

  • @joeyferrugio8562
    @joeyferrugio8562 Před 2 lety

    What's changing a tire like ?

  • @davidbergewaytogo
    @davidbergewaytogo Před 2 lety +2

    Those scooters are really cool, but many people are like me and don't care about top speed. I will probably never go above 30-35 mph in any case. I'm mostly looking for power to climb hills (270 lbs rider) and range. Any ideas?

  • @datdudeag6683
    @datdudeag6683 Před 2 lety

    Wheres the coupon code?

  • @LloydSim
    @LloydSim Před 4 lety +1

    Aw man. I need to buy an SUV first before I buy this ! My corolla is too tiny lol. Seems to be a really beastly scooter though and would be very useful for my trail rides! Might consider it buying in the future. Thanks for the review!

  • @busababy30
    @busababy30 Před 2 lety

    Where is the coupon code

  • @danielzen9512
    @danielzen9512 Před 3 lety

    I wish I bought a wolf warrior, I instead bought a mantis elite, 18.5ah battery took it out when the road was wet , the next morning wouldn't turn on, waiting for formal response from kaabo about the problem,, the tech guys at the shop said that it didn't show water damage , but arhhhhhhh,, I only had it for 2 weeks cost me 3000$$ aus

  • @richguy32
    @richguy32 Před 4 lety

    Will you ever do more Dualtron videos? Like of the new Eagle Pro

    • @allongold
      @allongold Před 4 lety +2

      It seems like this channel don’t work with dualtrons. I just got the eagle yesterday and this thing is a beast! It’s so fast and stable. Better than the mantis pro

    • @richguy32
      @richguy32 Před 4 lety

      @@allongold Was the unboxing and setup easy? Mine arrives in 3 weeks, and i can't find any informative videos on it, which is pretty disappointing.

  • @IIISentorIII
    @IIISentorIII Před 4 lety +3

    Hey, thanks for those videos.
    After i did watch your top 13 E.Scooters video i did buy myself the Xiaomi m365 pro Yesterday here in Switzerland.
    I use it with 30km/h firmware mod and a helmet ;)
    I got this Scooter new for 500 chf (513 US-Dollar). For me, this is no brainer since it was on place 7 on your list :), After 1.5 Days testing i'm really surprised how awesome this little Scooter is.
    One of those days i get myself a off-road Scooter, but not just yet ;)
    If i may suggest something. I don't really like your drop test tbh. In my opinion it is not necessary to slightly damage a new product. I think your tests would be fine without those.
    Anyhow thanks again for your work and greeting from Switzerland
    Cheers

    • @artlew6547
      @artlew6547 Před 4 lety

      well you sounds like me. i have m365 pro and i love it. but i just checked how cool escooters are and after month with xm365pro , im now a proud owner of kaabo wolf warrior 11+. i was choosing between kaabo, thunder and speedtrott 2000+.

  • @tormodnicholasmortontorger205

    Pleas do something on:
    The real beast scooters:
    Weped - Rion.
    Or wannabe beast scooters:
    Dualtron Thunder - Currus NF 11 - Kaabo wolf worrier.

    • @recrof
      @recrof Před 4 lety +1

      Worrier is something that worries you so much?

  • @markhoff3636
    @markhoff3636 Před 4 lety +1

    You lost me with the ABS and lack of a thumb trigger. Other tan that, I was impressed.

  • @selfie183
    @selfie183 Před 2 lety

    Who like oldwerld handlebars vs straight hbars ?

  • @monkeypolice3048
    @monkeypolice3048 Před 2 lety

    Cost of a motorcycle? I would for buy one for 2k not 3k above.

  • @joemac8998
    @joemac8998 Před rokem

    you should check out the yugen rx10 it's a beast

  • @CerealDust-nStuff
    @CerealDust-nStuff Před 4 lety

    Dualtron X is even more of a beast.

  • @McGreish
    @McGreish Před 4 lety +13

    Awesome but also extremely expensive. I hope these scooters start lowering in price in a few years.

    • @shifty277
      @shifty277 Před 4 lety +9

      It's the batteries and controllers that are still expensive as none of the ebike/scooter/scateboard manufacturers make their own controllers or batteries.
      Maybe in another 3 years with more scale and more customers this spec of power and range will decrease in price.

    • @siarthur
      @siarthur Před 4 lety +1

      batteries and controlers are expensive the rest can be cheaper but not the batts ahaha

    • @FriskyDecisions
      @FriskyDecisions Před 3 lety +2

      It’s not really that expensive if you view it in a certain way, a new 125cc motorcycle is £3000 for low end. £1000 insurance, £500 gear and you can’t keep it in your bedroom

    • @wongwinghong8092
      @wongwinghong8092 Před 3 lety +1

      And a few years later we have another beast😂

    • @jamesthebond0072
      @jamesthebond0072 Před 3 lety +2

      You think that's expensive somewhere I sround where I live is selling one off these on Facebook Market second hand for 3999

  • @alexaraza3917
    @alexaraza3917 Před 4 lety +2

    wolf warrior vs Qpower!

  • @TurboPotato
    @TurboPotato Před 4 lety +2

    I mean I don't think it's wrong to say that the Dualtron X is the only real direct competitor to this then, right?

  • @bigcity420
    @bigcity420 Před 3 lety

    On average, what is the approximate life span.

  • @danieltoro2237
    @danieltoro2237 Před rokem

    hola saludos desde chile! por cual te decantarías, el wolf warrior 11 plus o el vsett10+?, gracias

  • @hockey6323
    @hockey6323 Před 3 lety

    Would someone that’s 6 foot 6 fit on this?

  • @briankimcomedy
    @briankimcomedy Před 3 lety

    doesnt go up hills - no hill test?

  • @deridionentertainment
    @deridionentertainment Před 3 lety

    qpower beat in in alot of catagories but built quality and range. so baddest scooter is a bit of a stretch. More like the common and most brought scooter and build quality but it doesnt blow every scooter out the water including the New Rion which goes 60 70 mph carbon frame.Plus the wolf is heavier than the rest and isnt compact for most cars or suv.

  • @brycecampbell4845
    @brycecampbell4845 Před 3 lety

    Anyone know how this compares to Nan Robot LS7. ?

  • @irmantasaksionovas6117

    I would like to ask advice, in uk it's better to buy off road tires installed or street tires ?

    • @H4M24UK
      @H4M24UK Před 3 lety +1

      With the potholes we have best to buy off road. I live in London and made a wise choice buying it with of road tyres.

  • @mohsan5699
    @mohsan5699 Před 3 lety

    Is your code still active?

  • @tindalowos
    @tindalowos Před 4 lety +6

    what about the zero 11x against the other top tiers like dualtron ultra

  • @jayjaybradley8151
    @jayjaybradley8151 Před 2 lety

    Are the handle bars adjustable?

  • @vladimator1842
    @vladimator1842 Před 4 lety +2

    This scooter is only $2599 on Kreomotors.com where I bought my first ever electric scooter at the Kaabo Skywalker 8S. They only sell Kaabo brands though!

    • @genkuroshuriken3502
      @genkuroshuriken3502 Před 4 lety

      Sounds about right at current conversion rate. The Kaabo Wolf Warrior 11+ costs Php 135,000 in the Philippines.

    • @benpitchford2987
      @benpitchford2987 Před 4 lety

      Yep, mine arrives tomorrow from kreo. Liked the 1 yr warranty and no hassle or waiting game of pre-orders

    • @genkuroshuriken3502
      @genkuroshuriken3502 Před 4 lety

      Oooooh.... GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!

  • @gregorylaughlin2556
    @gregorylaughlin2556 Před 2 lety

    Can I suggest you lose the horrible auto captions which is so full of mistakes it’s unbelievable. You speak well and you’re very clear.

  • @drewbush6535
    @drewbush6535 Před 4 lety

    Does anyone know the rules for scooters in Pa?.

  • @nataku008
    @nataku008 Před rokem

    this has an IPX4 rating right? which means it can go under light rain (not submerged)?

  • @brandontompkins8773
    @brandontompkins8773 Před 3 lety +1

    The other day your website showed this scooter of having a range of 42 miles, and this video shows the range being 42 miles. Today the site says 30 miles. What's up with that?

    • @ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
      @ESG-ElectricScooterGuide  Před 3 lety

      Good catch Brandon. The original Wolf (maybe more than a year ago now) was the only scooter I ever range tested where I actually preferred single-motor for most of the range test. Since I range tested the Wolf King using dual motors all the time, it then made sense to go back and do another range test on the Warrior so that everything was consistent as people were thinking the Warrior was 42 miles using both motors. I always tried to range test scooters as I'd actually ride them, and until the Warrior I always used fastest mode the entire time. But after riding the King in dual motor, everything else seems slow now haha!

  • @praneshkhambe2351
    @praneshkhambe2351 Před 3 lety

    Can I get it in India...???

  • @4Shadows20
    @4Shadows20 Před 4 lety +1

    Can we or me 😁 get a turbowheel lightning+ vs zero10x 🙏 that would be cool

  • @mattgazda6057
    @mattgazda6057 Před 4 lety

    why not mention the nanrobot d6+ 40mile range 40 mph and only $1700

  • @BricoHr
    @BricoHr Před 4 lety +2

    Zero 11x vs Woolf warrior

  • @RedEyeification
    @RedEyeification Před 3 lety

    How many kilos Kaabo have ?

  • @oskino90ow
    @oskino90ow Před 3 lety

    Can it out do thee OUTSTORM??

  • @Dragomirasreviews
    @Dragomirasreviews Před rokem

    I really really hope somebody will come in and give me some advice...
    OK so I found a wolf Warrior X at fluid ride used for $1600 and I found wolf Warrior 11 for $1800 on Facebook marketplace. I do find myself liking the wolf warriorex as it does feel a little bit more nimble and lighter Plus there is a 60 day warranty if there's anything that goes wrong with it from fluid ride. The scooter on Facebook marketplace seems legit. I had the guy from marketplace send me a video of it charging and it looks to be OK. Of course I will test drive it before I buy it. What do you all think am I a fool to walk away from a $3000 scooter at this price? Is it dangerous buying a scooter with no kind of warranty through Facebook marketplace?

  • @yeahbuddy6852
    @yeahbuddy6852 Před 3 lety

    Cant see why this is almost x2 from Janobike t85 🤔