You should really make a blog or book about your life! I just read a bit about your background and omg it took me by surprise. You went through so much being the first woman to win gold in 1984! You made history and you destroyed the gap and proved your power and skill among all your other competitors. My gosh! You are a wonderful woman, I hope one day I could meet you just to talk about your struggle and drive throughout your ski career and life in general. Love your videos!
I spent the weekend doing this drill following your instructions - it was super helpful and within very short order helped me to get better aligned and feel the difference. So well demonstrated and explained. Thank you so much for this.
Came a cross this video recently, really nice turns! 2 cents on my end. IMO Javelin turns focuses on the outside leg rotation during a turn, since the upper body does not move actively, and there should be no inside leg rotation. When you lift up your inside ski and rotate the outside leg while turning, inside ski crossing on top of the outside ski should be a natural result. One drill I tried myself and with my students is the power plough, feeling that outside leg rotation while skiing in a snow plough at medium speed, lifting the inside ski resulted in a javelin turn.
Another great video. I have been unsuccessful with this drill. The way you explained how to raise and position the up hill ski has given me new hope to try it again. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks
Great Vid ! I alternate Javelin Turns & Royal Christy's on same Ski down an entire run . . . then back up and repeat on the other Ski ! Rinse and repeat . . . This is an excellent exercise for B.E.R.P.
Hi Debbie. I just want to thank you for all the info you have been publishing. I got into the snow for the first time in 5 or 6 years. This break was due to illness and injury and to be honest I never thought I would get back to walking without sticks never mind skiing. I have studied your videos and have rehabilitated my legs, when I got on the snow, even on my first run (friday 24th dec, my birthday), I was skiing better than in my racing days . Thanks again from Dave T in Scotland.
Thanks for this Deb. I'm a new Level 1 ski instructor (at 52!) and we just learned this drill today. Let's just say I didn't tear up the slopes lol. I was skiing mostly with people half my age, but that didn't deter me. I wanted to see it again on video and love your explanation. What was missing in the instruction earlier today for me, was not to collapse the hip. That would have helped a lot. I'm noticed that I my crossed ski tips forward and back, instead of staying level, as I'm learning to improve my balance. Thank you for the video!!
I believe the Javelin happens or needs to be performed by having the outside ski track under the lifted ski, to ski into counter ....so maybe this is the first part of it ..in other words promoting to not settle or dump as you say ...i have seen folks try to point thtail of the ski up hill versus letting the outside ski tarck under the lifted ski
Holy bologna, Ive been doing this drill today all day. instant results ! ive had maybe 10-15 hours of lessons all life, what other important drills am i missing out on?
Great video. Need to practice, however snow here in Scotland might not last too much longer. I would love some tips on dealing with ice, which even in a good season, we can get lots of here and with age comes some fear, I am afraid!
The examiner leading my group of instructors at Projam this season said this: "Ride the slide, guide the slide, and you'll hide the slide." It IS possible to edge ice, but with rec equipment, rec tuning, and rec conditioning, it's not easy. Better to become one with the slide and use it - I think that's what he meant. (I'm 64; I didn't start skiing until I was 47 - I'm well acquainted with fear. 😉)
Thanks for the great videos. I will admit that I admire your coaching and have used some of your drills in my own teaching. I really liked the point about avoiding hip dumping at the beginning... HOWEVER, I have been trained and coached to use a Javelin turn to steer into counter in the second half of the turn. A reverse Javelin turn is used to show steering out of counter in the top half of the turn. The two may be combined, but the outcome of the drill is to show separation of the femur against the pelvis. Therefore rotating the lower leg does not show separation of the femur to the pelvis. Also, I wonder if you can pressure the pinky toe edge of your new outside ski before untipping and turning it. In the video, it seems that you have already transferred pressure to the ball of your foot when you start this drill. Start as an outside ski turn by pressuring, untipping, tipping, then steering into counter? In summary, I would like to see you let your lifted femur hang neutral in the hip socket, and not rotate the lower leg. Then we could watch your outside leg rotate against your pelvis and see your outside ski steer under your inside lifted ski without lower leg rotation which is allowed by the Fibula... Can you also show some flexion from shaping to finish? Not being critical, just different that what I've been coached on. Thoughts?
Great thoughts. So many variations of drills. I hope the variation of javelin stands on it's own as valid. Of course the javelin can be used to emphasize differing skills as you pointed out......
Michael Bone, I too have received extensive coaching on this maneuver, so I’d love to hear Deb’s perspectives. In the version I understand, the ‘javelin’ occurs passively as the femur hangs neutral from the inside hip socket, while the outside ski turns, demonstrating rotation of the outside femur in its hip-socket. I wonder if we are looking for different outcomes?
Good demo, Deb. The traverse in the javelin position is a great intro. Consider, though, reinforcing the steering of the weighted outside ski instead of the unweighted inside. Steering that inside ski to the outside is a paradoxical move. Rather than steering "over" the outside ski, I teach steering under the inside ski. Taking this approach allows students to focus on feeling the hip rotation especially necessary for dynamic short turns. The countered position that develops from the move also tends to direct the plane of their hip at the inside of their next turns, promoting functional separation. This is a drill that in my experience is best skied at slow to moderate speeds to reinforce the feelings.
Are we lifting and rotating our inside ski or outside ski? On the traverse it looks like the outside ski, but on the turns, it seems like the inside ski is being lifted? Thanks for an amazing video!
I've been practicing javelins all day, i got a lot better with them and one leg is a lot more fluid then other for some reason. I have trouble connecting the javs from turn to turn but I feel im getting there. And I keep balancing with hands, thats a no no right?
Hi Deb - Another nice video. Question, though: Others say the key to javelins is steering the stance ski UNDER the lifted ski, not pointing the lifted ski over the stance ski. Any thoughts? Thanks!
Hum, in my view no right or wrong in drills. whoever is directing the drill sets the guidelines of what the drill is to accomplish. Most drills can accomplish many different things. in this instance what you say if just fine of course, just define the goal, the task, the skill thats being emphasized
I can only give you a small tip in a posting. The javelin requires that the skier be in an athletic stance with knee of the outside/downhill ski ( the ski on the snow) flexed. So I suggest working on the stance first to gain proper balance before moving onto the javelin turn, which IMO is a drill intended for advanced level skiers. A better drill is to practice traversing on one leg in each direction. If that doesn't work, have your boot alignment checked by a tech.
Marshall Ratinoff I just might have a big tight, I’m not kidding, I could do javelin at certain phase of the arc( pass fall line), but I feel really uncomfortable. I try on flat terrain, I just hardly can across, my wife could easily cross the feet. Anyway, I appreciate your comment and I’ll try in the next season. Thanks
Десять раз подумайте прежде чем выполнять такое опасное упражнение. Эффект выскальзывающих лыж просто поставит в ступор новичка, а тут и до травмы недалеко.
You should really make a blog or book about your life! I just read a bit about your background and omg it took me by surprise. You went through so much being the first woman to win gold in 1984! You made history and you destroyed the gap and proved your power and skill among all your other competitors. My gosh! You are a wonderful woman, I hope one day I could meet you just to talk about your struggle and drive throughout your ski career and life in general. Love your videos!
those short turn javelins are insane! you make 'em look so easy.
I spent the weekend doing this drill following your instructions - it was super helpful and within very short order helped me to get better aligned and feel the difference. So well demonstrated and explained. Thank you so much for this.
Thanks, Deb! i've had instructors show me javelins before, but no one has ever explained the importance of their mechanics as clearly as you!
@@oldskier3019 i’m gonna go with the olympic medalist on this one but thanks for your input guy
Came a cross this video recently, really nice turns! 2 cents on my end. IMO Javelin turns focuses on the outside leg rotation during a turn, since the upper body does not move actively, and there should be no inside leg rotation. When you lift up your inside ski and rotate the outside leg while turning, inside ski crossing on top of the outside ski should be a natural result. One drill I tried myself and with my students is the power plough, feeling that outside leg rotation while skiing in a snow plough at medium speed, lifting the inside ski resulted in a javelin turn.
Oh ya the javelin... classic! Lookin good!!😎
Another great video. I have been unsuccessful with this drill. The way you explained how to raise and position the up hill ski has given me new hope to try it again. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks
As always very easy to understand explanation. Thank you!
Awesome demos and communication, Deb!
Great Vid !
I alternate Javelin Turns & Royal Christy's on same Ski down an entire run . . . then back up and repeat on the other Ski !
Rinse and repeat . . . This is an excellent exercise for B.E.R.P.
You're best !! Awesome demos and communication,
Great video. Thank you!
Hi Debbie. I just want to thank you for all the info you have been publishing. I got into the snow for the first time in 5 or 6 years. This break was due to illness and injury and to be honest I never thought I would get back to walking without sticks never mind skiing. I have studied your videos and have rehabilitated my legs, when I got on the snow, even on my first run (friday 24th dec, my birthday), I was skiing better than in my racing days . Thanks again from Dave T in Scotland.
Thanks Dave. So happy you are skiing again. Good luck. Happy new year
Thanks for this Deb. I'm a new Level 1 ski instructor (at 52!) and we just learned this drill today. Let's just say I didn't tear up the slopes lol. I was skiing mostly with people half my age, but that didn't deter me. I wanted to see it again on video and love your explanation. What was missing in the instruction earlier today for me, was not to collapse the hip. That would have helped a lot. I'm noticed that I my crossed ski tips forward and back, instead of staying level, as I'm learning to improve my balance. Thank you for the video!!
Oh, you're young! I didn't start teaching until I was over 60 -- 61 for the L1. 😊 Good on ya', though. Teaching is fun.
Hi! Best javelins turn .
WOW!! Great video
Very cool drill!
I believe the Javelin happens or needs to be performed by having the outside ski track under the lifted ski, to ski into counter ....so maybe this is the first part of it ..in other words promoting to not settle or dump as you say ...i have seen folks try to point thtail of the ski up hill versus letting the outside ski tarck under the lifted ski
Correct. The ski on the snow is steered underneath the lifted ski.
Holy bologna, Ive been doing this drill today all day. instant results ! ive had maybe 10-15 hours of lessons all life, what other important drills am i missing out on?
Glad you liked the drill!!!!!!
it's july and 90 degrees and i want to watch Deb Armstrong videos. someone please help.
Search Deb Armstrong skiing and you will find all. Cheers.
Loved this drill when learning to get off piste and onto moguls.
Great video. Need to practice, however snow here in Scotland might not last too much longer. I would love some tips on dealing with ice, which even in a good season, we can get lots of here and with age comes some fear, I am afraid!
The examiner leading my group of instructors at Projam this season said this: "Ride the slide, guide the slide, and you'll hide the slide." It IS possible to edge ice, but with rec equipment, rec tuning, and rec conditioning, it's not easy. Better to become one with the slide and use it - I think that's what he meant. (I'm 64; I didn't start skiing until I was 47 - I'm well acquainted with fear. 😉)
I did this exercise with my instructor! I like it. But I didnt know that its name javelin)
Thanks for the great videos. I will admit that I admire your coaching and have used some of your drills in my own teaching. I really liked the point about avoiding hip dumping at the beginning... HOWEVER, I have been trained and coached to use a Javelin turn to steer into counter in the second half of the turn. A reverse Javelin turn is used to show steering out of counter in the top half of the turn. The two may be combined, but the outcome of the drill is to show separation of the femur against the pelvis. Therefore rotating the lower leg does not show separation of the femur to the pelvis. Also, I wonder if you can pressure the pinky toe edge of your new outside ski before untipping and turning it. In the video, it seems that you have already transferred pressure to the ball of your foot when you start this drill. Start as an outside ski turn by pressuring, untipping, tipping, then steering into counter? In summary, I would like to see you let your lifted femur hang neutral in the hip socket, and not rotate the lower leg. Then we could watch your outside leg rotate against your pelvis and see your outside ski steer under your inside lifted ski without lower leg rotation which is allowed by the Fibula... Can you also show some flexion from shaping to finish? Not being critical, just different that what I've been coached on. Thoughts?
Great thoughts. So many variations of drills. I hope the variation of javelin stands on it's own as valid. Of course the javelin can be used to emphasize differing skills as you pointed out......
Michael Bone, I too have received extensive coaching on this maneuver, so I’d love to hear Deb’s perspectives. In the version I understand, the ‘javelin’ occurs passively as the femur hangs neutral from the inside hip socket, while the outside ski turns, demonstrating rotation of the outside femur in its hip-socket. I wonder if we are looking for different outcomes?
Good demo, Deb. The traverse in the javelin position is a great intro. Consider, though, reinforcing the steering of the weighted outside ski instead of the unweighted inside. Steering that inside ski to the outside is a paradoxical move. Rather than steering "over" the outside ski, I teach steering under the inside ski. Taking this approach allows students to focus on feeling the hip rotation especially necessary for dynamic short turns. The countered position that develops from the move also tends to direct the plane of their hip at the inside of their next turns, promoting functional separation. This is a drill that in my experience is best skied at slow to moderate speeds to reinforce the feelings.
Are we lifting and rotating our inside ski or outside ski? On the traverse it looks like the outside ski, but on the turns, it seems like the inside ski is being lifted? Thanks for an amazing video!
Inside ski
I've been practicing javelins all day, i got a lot better with them and one leg is a lot more fluid then other for some reason. I have trouble connecting the javs from turn to turn but I feel im getting there. And I keep balancing with hands, thats a no no right?
Hands help with balancing but hands alone will not bring you into balance. glad you are finding some success with the drill
I would love to go and ski with you, but I bet you are booked 5 yrs in advance.
Hi Deb - Another nice video. Question, though: Others say the key to javelins is steering the stance ski UNDER the lifted ski, not pointing the lifted ski over the stance ski. Any thoughts? Thanks!
Hum, in my view no right or wrong in drills. whoever is directing the drill sets the guidelines of what the drill is to accomplish. Most drills can accomplish many different things. in this instance what you say if just fine of course, just define the goal, the task, the skill thats being emphasized
I get it - thanks!
She’s fucking intense
I even can not cross my feet when I just stand up with skis on the flat terrain, how can I even do it when skiing?
I can only give you a small tip in a posting. The javelin requires that the skier be in an athletic stance with knee of the outside/downhill ski ( the ski on the snow) flexed. So I suggest working on the stance first to gain proper balance before moving onto the javelin turn, which IMO is a drill intended for advanced level skiers. A better drill is to practice traversing on one leg in each direction. If that doesn't work, have your boot alignment checked by a tech.
Marshall Ratinoff I just might have a big tight, I’m not kidding, I could do javelin at certain phase of the arc( pass fall line), but I feel really uncomfortable. I try on flat terrain, I just hardly can across, my wife could easily cross the feet.
Anyway, I appreciate your comment and I’ll try in the next season.
Thanks
@@MrCarftman I hope practicing this traversing exercise will help you commitment your weight to the outside ski and to make better turns as a result.
Десять раз подумайте прежде чем выполнять такое опасное упражнение. Эффект выскальзывающих лыж просто поставит в ступор новичка, а тут и до травмы недалеко.