Conquest of India - East India Companies - Extra History - Part 2

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    Bombay, April 1619, the British were cowering in a small fort on the coast of India as the Mughal Empire wrecked the British! How did the British Empire get from this loss to their paradoxical conquest of India? Find out in our next installment as we discuss the East India Companies and their contribution to this entangled history!
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Komentáře • 867

  • @civilengineer3349
    @civilengineer3349 Před 2 lety +2676

    A Mughal Sultan sends African-Indian soldiers to fight an English merchant company which in turn sends Japanese Ronin to fight a Dutch merchant company which sends pirates to fight Portugese merchants in India...the Age of Exploration was wild

    • @kingofflamingos4344
      @kingofflamingos4344 Před 2 lety +140

      Wait till you here about the Mayans and thr Japanese.

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Před 2 lety +206

      @@kingofflamingos4344 if that sounds crazy, I recently sw a video of Aztecs under Spanish command fighting the Ottoman Sultan's janniseries in South East Asia.

    • @donrog5035
      @donrog5035 Před 2 lety +99

      @@civilengineer3349 Damn it's like it's a historical fan fiction

    • @CliffCardi
      @CliffCardi Před 2 lety +55

      Don’t forget the scientific advancements by Harvey, Huygens, and Galileo. The 17th century alone sounds like a great tabletop setting.

    • @ecurewitz
      @ecurewitz Před 2 lety +32

      17th Century globalism at play

  • @beeaggro2593
    @beeaggro2593 Před 2 lety +227

    The VOC: Where to match the sheer amount of wealth they had (adjusted for inflation) you have to combine the entire Fortune 500

  • @AynenMakino
    @AynenMakino Před 2 lety +916

    It's only fitting, and a testament to the quality of this channel, that when the Dutch finally get some love on the channel it's done within the context of not just the impressive things they accomplished but also the horrible things they did to get there.
    *tips hat to Extra Credits*

    • @steampunksamurai1704
      @steampunksamurai1704 Před 2 lety +29

      I agree, As a dutchman myself i love stories that where the dutch are involved with, they make me want to learn more and more about my nation`s past instead of others, i really do hope we get something like the 80s war as a series! that would be amazing.

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 Před 2 lety +19

      @@steampunksamurai1704 wait until you learn what your ancestors did in Indonesia.

    • @farhanahmed2508
      @farhanahmed2508 Před 2 lety +8

      Like eating their Prime Minister

    • @FoggyMcFogFace
      @FoggyMcFogFace Před 2 lety +15

      @@farhanahmed2508 Eating a prime minister is one of the impressive things. I'm more concerned about the dozens of genocides.

    • @steampunksamurai1704
      @steampunksamurai1704 Před 2 lety +10

      @@yj9032 Oh that i know, dear god that i know.....i feel bad for the indonesian people for having suffered under us that much

  • @fedrickthegreat2138
    @fedrickthegreat2138 Před 2 lety +678

    “Oh my God don’t tell daddy Bezos”
    I actually laughed at that one

    • @stevejakab274
      @stevejakab274 Před 2 lety +29

      Companies acting like governments isn't just a European thing, the US has had its share of that as well. See things like "company stores" and the Pinkertons.

    • @fedrickthegreat2138
      @fedrickthegreat2138 Před 2 lety +8

      @@stevejakab274 yes anyways what is your opinion on Amazon not paying taxes

    • @fedrickthegreat2138
      @fedrickthegreat2138 Před 2 lety +9

      @@stevejakab274 I hope they make a video about me one day

    • @gryphonprovenzano3156
      @gryphonprovenzano3156 Před 2 lety +11

      …aaannd Amazon has a private army now…

    • @fedrickthegreat2138
      @fedrickthegreat2138 Před 2 lety +2

      @@gryphonprovenzano3156 Yeah

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před 2 lety +597

    Scotland went bankrupt after the failure of the Darien scheme. So they looked to England to merge, also worth considering they both had the same monarchs during this time.

    • @christianweibrecht6555
      @christianweibrecht6555 Před 2 lety +53

      Scotland was left with two choices: watch as it's economy is completely eclipsed by England's or bet everything they had on a colonialization attempt
      Related this is why I believe that province will never leave the UK, it's economy would become way too weak and vulnerable

    • @fedrickthegreat2138
      @fedrickthegreat2138 Před 2 lety +10

      Scotland was forced to join England after being bankrupt from the Darien scheme

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc Před 2 lety +4

      England had an had in that "failure". Perfid albion

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc Před 2 lety +11

      @@christianweibrecht6555 Meh. Scotland now has an option: EU

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 Před 2 lety +7

      @@christianweibrecht6555 That hasn't stopped many smaller countries inside Europe from existing.

  • @silesiaball9505
    @silesiaball9505 Před 2 lety +524

    What I also consider interesting about Portuguese in India is that when they arrived they discovered Christian community there (allegedly found by st. Thomas Apostle) and managed to convert many of them into Catholicism.

    • @apogeelord7013
      @apogeelord7013 Před 2 lety +38

      Many are still non Catholics here

    • @pablomagno4679
      @pablomagno4679 Před 2 lety +4

      @@apogeelord7013 How are they called?

    • @apogeelord7013
      @apogeelord7013 Před 2 lety +37

      @@pablomagno4679 Local name for those people are Nasrani Mapillas, some of them were forced to become Catholics some weren't, and there are names for each, which I don't remember exactly.

    • @shanbhagrohan
      @shanbhagrohan Před 2 lety +27

      That was in Kerala, Orthodox Christians are still a massive proportion of the Kerala Christian population. Kerala however was never under proper Portuguese rule unlike Goa

    • @apogeelord7013
      @apogeelord7013 Před 2 lety +5

      @@shanbhagrohan Kerala was briefly under Portuguese rule, before they shifted to Goa

  • @WeebFox69
    @WeebFox69 Před 2 lety +86

    Portuguese factory were setup under protection from the vijaynagar empire and Delhi sultnate Era mughal arrived in india in 1526

    • @SafavidAfsharid3197
      @SafavidAfsharid3197 Před 2 lety +16

      Delhi sultanate was in the delhi-panjab area during this time. I think you meant bahamani sultanate and it's fractured states. Intresting thing is one Portuguese traveller even worte about the 3rd vijayanagara-gajapati war and the lesser known 1 year siege of udayagiri.

    • @farhanahmed2508
      @farhanahmed2508 Před 2 lety +2

      Deccan Sultanates*

    • @WeebFox69
      @WeebFox69 Před 2 lety +10

      @@SafavidAfsharid3197 but there fact that mughal backed the Portuguese in 1496 is wrong

    • @zubinjain8675
      @zubinjain8675 Před 2 lety

      @@WeebFox69 I think it's a simplification for now. After every series EC do a "lies" episodes, where they offer corrections and explain the simplifications

    • @Brslld
      @Brslld Před rokem

      @@zubinjain8675 this is still misinformation. I mean how many people actually watch their lies episodes than the actual series.

  • @3ipolarBear
    @3ipolarBear Před 2 lety +87

    2:20 The mughal empire was non-existant in 1498, Babur himself was still ruler of Ferghana and had no territory outside of central asia, and most of the India that the portuguese met was largely divided into many independent sultanates and hindu kingdoms

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 Před 2 lety +11

      The Portuguese mainly dealt with the Bahmani Sultanate and the Vijayanagara empire when they arrived.

    • @manzarmaqbool6176
      @manzarmaqbool6176 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@anirudh177T that would be the Delhi sultanate

    • @manzarmaqbool6176
      @manzarmaqbool6176 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Portuguese mainly dealt with the Delhi sultanate as the main state and the coastal smaller states as trading partners

  • @rudegamer12
    @rudegamer12 Před 2 lety +168

    With you talking about the VOC, I now itching to see a series on some part of Dutch history (preferably about the cape but that just my South African side showing)

    • @gamingmello6729
      @gamingmello6729 Před 2 lety

      Same here

    • @royblekman8186
      @royblekman8186 Před 2 lety +2

      Perhaps The Glorious Revolution would fit better.

    • @bismanaufa5618
      @bismanaufa5618 Před 2 lety

      Vereegnide oost indishche compagnie

    • @bismanaufa5618
      @bismanaufa5618 Před 2 lety +1

      Voc overwhelmed with java war (prince diponegoro)

    • @karellen4913
      @karellen4913 Před 2 lety +4

      Why not VOC as well in general, I would love to watch that as an Indonesian.

  • @declanellery8500
    @declanellery8500 Před 2 lety +170

    The Mughals weren't ruling India for the entire time of European exploration. When the Portuguese arrived the Mughal Empire had just gotten started, and so the Portuguese didn't even interact with the Mughals for much of their time in India since they occupied coastal towns while the Mughals started inland.
    I get the drive to show how India didn't just get rolled over by the Europeans, but India was much more than just the Mughal Empire.

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 Před 2 lety +34

      The Portuguese mainly dealt with the Bahmani Sultanate and the Vijayanagara empire when they arrived, If I am not wrong.

    • @esthersmith3056
      @esthersmith3056 Před 2 lety +23

      yeah, extra history is a fun popular introduction to these topics, but can sometimes have things embarrassingly wrong (most commonly when they rely on older secondary sources that werent necessarily that well-researched to begin with)

    • @SusCalvin
      @SusCalvin Před 2 lety +7

      The dutch don't have the manpower to dump whole populations of indentured workers and tenant farmers in their colonies. They focus on a few important places and set up something more like trade posts. Why have a bunch of dutch go out into the interior and hunt pelts when there's already people doing that who will sell them to you.

    • @kushal4956
      @kushal4956 Před 2 lety +13

      @@esthersmith3056 yes. this was poorly researched. the mughals didn't even exist when the portuguese came to India and the vijayanagara empire which controlled most of south india for the next 5-7 decades after the portuguese arrival didn't even get a mention. the zamorin king who received vasco da gama in 1498 was also called a "mughal" when the mughal empire hadn't conquered Calicut even at its peak

    • @ericmalanowski5957
      @ericmalanowski5957 Před rokem +1

      in fact the Mughals only directly ruled a few northern provinces as everything else was held by local Hindu princes.

  • @johnogroats2733
    @johnogroats2733 Před 2 lety +352

    I am so happy to see a fellow Barbossa stan. Everything that comes out of that man's mouth just screams 'pirate' in a way that just makes me happy.

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 Před 2 lety +17

      I think everyone loves Barbossa 😊

    • @rowanaboat4523
      @rowanaboat4523 Před 2 lety +31

      He is one of the few characters that works extremely well as both a hero and a villain.

    • @SidheKnight
      @SidheKnight Před 2 lety +15

      Just because I love Jack Sparrow doesn't mean I don't also love Barbossa

    • @Devantejah
      @Devantejah Před 2 lety +3

      Barbossa is the real pirate boss, Sparrow is great too though.

    • @feynstein1004
      @feynstein1004 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Devantejah What aaargh you doin?

  • @NL-ws5fv
    @NL-ws5fv Před 2 lety +107

    Eerily love 6:53. I can imagine Vlad saying, "Ah... Good to see such knowledge still in use"

    • @ishidan01
      @ishidan01 Před 2 lety

      And wave...like this! *twiddles fingers*

  • @joshuafrimpong244
    @joshuafrimpong244 Před 2 lety +444

    India: You seem to want to buy our goods
    Britain: Nah m8, we good
    India: We have some unwanted drugs and leaves in water tho...
    Britain: GIVE ME THE PLANTS!

    • @civilengineer3349
      @civilengineer3349 Před 2 lety +25

      Wasnt that China though?

    • @joshuafrimpong244
      @joshuafrimpong244 Před 2 lety +26

      @@civilengineer3349 Both countries are the largest producers of tea, but technically, you are npot entirely wrong

    • @joshuafrimpong244
      @joshuafrimpong244 Před 2 lety +4

      @@nimportequi2249 thats pretty rude

    • @AtheistPirate
      @AtheistPirate Před 2 lety +20

      @@civilengineer3349 A little industrial espionage here, a bit of transplantation there, and a whole lot of opium addiction to go around.

    • @joshuafrimpong244
      @joshuafrimpong244 Před 2 lety +9

      @@AtheistPirate How Britain made an empire in Asia in a few simple steps

  • @scientia.veritas
    @scientia.veritas Před 2 lety +40

    In Shashi Tharoor's famous speech at Oxford, he did talk about how the Scots tried sending out colonies of their own and failed. Then came the Union, which partly occurred due to the raging poverty in Scotland at the time. After the Union, Scots found lucrative administrative positions in the British Raj - often a larger proportion of Scots than Englishmen were stationed in India in the 19th century.

    • @bazmc1153
      @bazmc1153 Před 2 lety +1

      From a country that's never surpassed 5 million people, Scots could organize really well.

  • @samsmith4242
    @samsmith4242 Před 2 lety +274

    One complaint, Scotland agreed to the act of union after the failure of the Darien scheme and that was proposed by a Scottish dynasty of monarchs in off itself and the Scottish and English parliaments were merged. So, conquest is really the wrong word for that example, right armmy?

    • @RebelScout1
      @RebelScout1 Před 2 lety +2

      Um, actually 😂😂😂

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 Před 2 lety +10

      One does wonder what British history would have been had Henry VIII had any legitimate grandchildren.

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu Před 2 lety +36

      One thing I don't get is why lots of Americans seem to think England conquered Scotland and even most British know that a Scottish king _inherited_ the throne of England and further integration would happen later. This misconception might make a bit of sense if a English king inherited Scotland.

    • @PETE316
      @PETE316 Před 2 lety +1

      One complaint? What about “armie”?

    • @jarredmace1080
      @jarredmace1080 Před 2 lety

      @Sam Smith 100%.

  • @CornishCreamtea07
    @CornishCreamtea07 Před 2 lety +95

    The history of british-Dutch relations are also interesting.

    • @Tommy-5684
      @Tommy-5684 Před 2 lety +6

      1688 the time english natiolists like to convenatnlty forget

    • @T0T4LG4MER5
      @T0T4LG4MER5 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Tommy-5684 Not really, If anything the 'glorious revolution '1688 and events such as the battle of the Boyne is seen as being a vital part of English Nationalism and Identity. Just look at the Orange Order to see how some people revere WIlliam III as a hero.

    • @tribblier
      @tribblier Před 2 lety +2

      English-Dutch union would have been such a great alternative history

    • @Swift-mr5zi
      @Swift-mr5zi Před 2 lety +2

      @@Tommy-5684 The Dutch forget that we're the reason they're an independent nation, without our intervention in the 80 years war with De Vere the Dutch would have been crushed

    • @Arjonko
      @Arjonko Před 2 lety +7

      @@Swift-mr5zi what are you talking about? Do you mean Robert Dudley the governor who screwed everything up? The republic gave Vlissingen and Den Briel as collateral in exchange for military support. Under his command the following cities got sacked; Zutphen, Deventer, Brussel, Mechelen,Grave and Sluis. The English mercenaries even defected towards the Spanish. His policies on trade led to a financial crisis. The English acted in their own interests and certainly were not the reason why the Dutch republic became independent.

  • @thebaconavenger8876
    @thebaconavenger8876 Před 2 lety +65

    Interestingly, the English Crown(and subsequently the EIC) only got possesion of Mumbai because of a Political marriage between portugal and England. When I think about the British Conquest of India I just think "damn if I ever was so lucky myself"

  • @ShamanMcLamie
    @ShamanMcLamie Před 2 lety +23

    Earlier this month I found out my Great Great Grandmother was born in British India. Her father was an Irishman serving as a British Army Engineer and was sent to India for many years. While there he married a local Christian woman whose father was from Poland(he was in India doing work for the British as well and decided to stay) and her mother was Indian. Eventually he brought his new family back home to Ireland. My Great Great Grandmother would eventually join her children in the US, but couldn't immigrate to the US from Ireland so her immigration papers say she is from India which is technically true. My dad currently has my Great Great Great Grandfather's watch that he got serving in India. Our cousin in Ireland has the complimentary saber.

    • @sammm141
      @sammm141 Před 2 lety +3

      That's so cool and interesting to know! I am glad you know a lot about your predecessors.

  • @jakobtarrasericsson4295
    @jakobtarrasericsson4295 Před 2 lety +183

    My ancestor, John Laurence Tarras actually was one of the directors of the Swedish East India Company.

  • @thfab4831
    @thfab4831 Před 2 lety +124

    As a dutch person myself i approve of this episode.

    • @superzigzagoon
      @superzigzagoon Před 2 lety +8

      As a British person, I also approve of this episode

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory Před 2 lety +10

      As an Italian i also approve this episode

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory Před 2 lety +6

      @Steven Universe i absolutely agree

    • @glocksmith226
      @glocksmith226 Před 2 lety +7

      As Indian I agree

    • @jokehu7115
      @jokehu7115 Před 2 lety +8

      Zeg makker, kokosnoten zijn geen specerijen

  • @marcelloherreshoff2163
    @marcelloherreshoff2163 Před 2 lety +18

    Minor mistake: the map at 2:15 shows a gap between Africa and the Middle East, but I don't think the Suez Canal had been built yet. This stuck out, because that scene was about the Portuguese having to sail around Africa to get to India, and I was all " wait, but why didn't they go the short way... Oh."

    • @THATotherGUY415
      @THATotherGUY415 Před 2 lety +2

      Construction started in 1859 and finished around 1869 or 1870

  • @noeswantra2295
    @noeswantra2295 Před 2 lety +146

    Sidenote on the Dutch East India Company (VOC) & Indonesia, compared to the Mughals & India, that I was surprised you guys didn't mention out:
    The situation in Indonesia of 17th century was far more easy to be dealt with compared to India at that time, since the Mughals were at their height of the power. Meanwhile in Indonesia there were numerous smaller Islamic kingdoms that were just starting to rise after the chaotic 16th century. The 1500s saw the demise of both Majapahit Empire (that EC did a series couple of years ago!) and Malacca Sultanate (which was upended by the Portuguese). If Majapahit or Malacca wasn't destroyed, the Dutch might have also encountered a similar situation to what the Europeans faced in India: Forced to sign one-sided trade deals with a local hegemonic power, instead of leveraging their trade power and pitting small local kingdoms against each other.

    • @jokehu7115
      @jokehu7115 Před 2 lety +7

      G E K O L O N I S E E R D

    • @arnoutjuh97
      @arnoutjuh97 Před 2 lety +12

      They did explain this: @5:42

    • @ihl0700677525
      @ihl0700677525 Před 2 lety +22

      Bear in mind that the Netherlands, altho smaller, was significantly wealthier than the kingdom of Portugal. They also had advanced economic system (e.g. concept such as Stock Exchange originated either in the Netherlands or Italy).
      In fact, in the 17th century, the Low countries (Dutch Republic, Austrian Netherlands, and Spanish Netherlands) had comparable population (~6 millions) to the whole Spice Islands (~8 millions).
      Above all, VOC did not just willy nilly attack local rulers and commit piracy like the Portuguese. The Dutch were shrewd merchant, who put their mercantile interest above religious and political supremacy.
      Wherever the Spanish or the Portuguese rule, they forcibly convert local people into their culture and religion, not the case with the Dutch.

    • @rithvik119am6
      @rithvik119am6 Před 2 lety

      Thanks for calling Indian strong as you must in those times

    • @adarshmohapatra5058
      @adarshmohapatra5058 Před 2 lety

      I love how you know both the Indian and Indonesian political situation at this time. Really offers some perspective.

  • @SwitchFeathers
    @SwitchFeathers Před 2 lety +73

    You're telling me the cyberpunk corporate dominated future dystopia we all dread is coming in the next ~30 years has _already happened!?_
    Time really is a flat circle. I mean we already have pirates, at least.

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers Před 2 lety +20

      Spicepunk

    • @pax6833
      @pax6833 Před 2 lety +11

      Yup, and it's literally just *the worst*
      don't ever let ancaps sell you on the idea of letting corporations dominate the world

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Před 2 lety +12

      @@pax6833 Don't call them "ancaps", call them for what they are: Neo-Feudalists...

    • @sounakchatterjer4158
      @sounakchatterjer4158 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ccricers Done already.The spice must flow bud

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers Před 2 lety

      A period appropriate re-imagining of cyberpunk tropes would be rad, though

  • @abcdef27669
    @abcdef27669 Před 2 lety +56

    2:55 - Portugal speaking to Brazil: "See now, son?! If you want your gold back, talk to India. Stop bothering me with that story..."

    • @luizfelipepereirafigueired4523
      @luizfelipepereirafigueired4523 Před 2 lety +5

      And part of the Gold was send to the british

    • @saintpinewood562
      @saintpinewood562 Před 2 lety +4

      Most of the gold stayed in the colony. The royal taxation in Brazil was of 20% of the total annual gold extraction. The remaining wealth was due to be kept in Brazil for the development of the cities and infrastructures.

  • @generalgrievous6689
    @generalgrievous6689 Před 2 lety +61

    I worked with an Anthropology professor who wrote a book on railway lines created by the EIC. Very interesting topic.

  • @x-treme9248
    @x-treme9248 Před 2 lety +68

    Fun fact the east india company which was present in india for over 2 century is now a cake shop in london
    And is controlled by a indian

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory Před 2 lety +5

      I just searched that I LOVE THIS WORD

    • @jasonhaven7170
      @jasonhaven7170 Před 2 lety +2

      that's awesome

    • @hurgcat
      @hurgcat Před 2 lety +5

      The Hudson Bay Company which dominated the fur trade in Anglo North America is now analgous to a Macy's or Nordstrom's in Canada

    • @bbirda1287
      @bbirda1287 Před 2 lety +4

      @@hurgcat omg is that correct? The clothing company is what's left? how the wheel turns. (not looking forward to Wheel of Time tv series incidentally)

    • @eyeofthepyramid2596
      @eyeofthepyramid2596 Před 2 lety

      It's a tea shop

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  Před 2 lety +1

    Audience promo code is EXTRACREDITS - which gives 40% off of any annual membership on checkout.
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  • @Canhistoryismylife
    @Canhistoryismylife Před 2 lety +58

    The spice must flow

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Před 2 lety +7

    6:37 British Spies, Dutch Traders, Japanese Ronin and Torture? How isn't this a big budget film?

  • @rennor3498
    @rennor3498 Před 2 lety +67

    And when you take into consideration that the Mughal Empire did not even exist when the Portuguese arrived in India,this simply makes the British defeat even more humiliating.

    • @Boretheory
      @Boretheory Před 2 lety +3

      The tastiest defeat i ever heard about

    • @freeplex589
      @freeplex589 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Boretheory stop talking crap

    • @freeplex589
      @freeplex589 Před 2 lety

      Britain conquered india though

    • @idontusecryptocurrency5870
      @idontusecryptocurrency5870 Před 2 lety +12

      @@freeplex589 yep after mughal lost to marathas and marathas lost to afghans😀 and by that time europe gained much more tech advantage and india got in same situation as Indonesia which is small kingdoms

    • @dwarasamudra8889
      @dwarasamudra8889 Před 2 lety +5

      True, between 1400 and 1500, Northern India was divided into several large and wealthy Kingdoms like the Muzaffarids of Gujarat, Tomaras of Bundelkhand, Sharqis of Uttar Pradesh, Gajapatis of Odisha, Hussain Shahis of Bengal and Bihar, Shahmiris of Kashmir, Sisodias of Mewar, Ahoms of Assam and Adil Shahis of Maharashtra. Southern India, however, was ruled by the large Vijayanagara Empire which controlled the port city of Calicut or Kozhikode (with the Zamorin as a ceremonial leader) where Vasco de Gama docked.

  • @TheAnon03
    @TheAnon03 Před 2 lety +9

    1:45 Here in England we don't spend a lot of time on the EIC but when we do we usually skip over the American and Caribbean bits and focus on the Indian bit.

    • @tams805
      @tams805 Před 2 lety +4

      EC can be quite lax and ignorant with their research at times.

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 Před 2 lety

      @@tams805 Yeah, that is what I've noticed as well. They find something and then don't go deeper than that and work with that shallow research.

    • @Anurag-xe2jp
      @Anurag-xe2jp Před 2 lety +2

      Funny thing is EIC isn't taught about much in India (at least when I studied). It's usually the Mughal and some other empires and then fast forwarded to 1857 (the year of Indian revolt against EIC and the British monarch directly taking over).

    • @jhonshephard921
      @jhonshephard921 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Anurag-xe2jp In Pakistan we did learn about the EIC but not too much. Basically we are told about their fight with Aurangzeb, the battle of Panipath and how they forced themselves upon Sindh cause they got their ass handed to them in Afghanistan and then we move to 1857 and its effects including Muslims getting most of the blame which is cited as the reason Muslims didn't learn English or work with the Indian civil service in the Raj and for the founding of Aligrah College to mitigate that, which then leads into the All India Muslim League and Pakistan.

    • @idontusecryptocurrency5870
      @idontusecryptocurrency5870 Před 2 lety

      @@jhonshephard921 ohh they dont teach last part or sindh part in india they focus mostly on british conquest of bengal.
      Then a little about rebellion then straight to 1919=non cooperation movement khilafat movement jhalliawala bagh etc.
      And before these they teach a little bit about marathas then about mughals ruler from baber to aurangzeb,before that vijaynagar empire bahamani etc.And before that delhi sultanate then chola gupta maurya etc. Big empires of india

  • @apookatzgaming8770
    @apookatzgaming8770 Před 2 lety +3

    Loved the crop up of Vlad Dracula observing the beheaded man on a pole and thinking" Hey, I could kill all by Boyars that way!"

  • @liangflrs02
    @liangflrs02 Před 2 lety +6

    Please don't let Elon Musk see this, he already owns twitter and now he's going to want to do get a real life lego army to do this on Mars.

  • @miguelsilva1446
    @miguelsilva1446 Před 2 lety +13

    Wait a minute you say Portuguese settled in India with the permission of the mughals?
    But the Portuguese had a lot of possessions in India before the mughals came...

    • @ishanbajpai6940
      @ishanbajpai6940 Před 2 lety +4

      They didn't, Mughals were not rulling India when the Portuguese came, they were permitted to start trading by the Vijaynagar empire who gave the Portuguese land for building ports and trading.

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ishanbajpai6940 and they took some territories from the Bijapur Sultanate too

    • @hannah-yr7bp
      @hannah-yr7bp Před 2 lety

      @@ishanbajpai6940 and they also fought kerala and won

  • @sarasamaletdin4574
    @sarasamaletdin4574 Před 2 lety +13

    You should make a video (maybe not enough material for a series) on Scottish Darian scheme and how Scottland became a part of UK permanently.

  • @civilengineer3349
    @civilengineer3349 Před 2 lety +9

    Yeah, there were many companies back in the day.
    Here in Canada, the English had the Hudson Bay Company and down in the Carribean, the Dutch had the West Indies Company. Even the French had the Frenxh East India Company, which employed local soldiers just like how the British East India Company would do later

  • @CosmicAggressor
    @CosmicAggressor Před 2 lety +58

    So are we keeping the talking arm chair? I am hoping it's existance ends with this particular series.

    • @fareezamanzur-abdulmajid278
      @fareezamanzur-abdulmajid278 Před 2 lety +4

      But he’s a new character, and Extra History should save Army for a series on the colonization of the Americas by the Spaniards and the Portuguese.

  • @bbirda1287
    @bbirda1287 Před 2 lety +8

    Looks like Lies is going to be a 2 parter this time, lol.

  • @ihatemotionblur_3255
    @ihatemotionblur_3255 Před 2 lety +5

    the mughal empire DIDNT exist in 1498. The kings which the portugeuse met were the Zamorins of Calicut, a city state based on trade, similar to the city states of italy in that period. (of course being Indian made them much richer)

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc Před 2 lety

      Italy in that period was among the richest place in the world though

    • @ihatemotionblur_3255
      @ihatemotionblur_3255 Před 2 lety +1

      @@NoName-hg6cc Yeah thats why I said being Indian made them even richer

  • @theartkid7226
    @theartkid7226 Před 2 lety +5

    WAIT WHAT I JUST SUBSCRIBED TO YOU WONDERING WHEN THE NEXT VIDEO ON INDIA WAS GOING TO COME OUT AND IT'S OUT NOW WOAAAAAHHHHH

  • @CactusJackIV
    @CactusJackIV Před 2 lety +9

    Love the channel, keep up the awesome work!! Have a great Halloween(tomorrow, today or both)

  • @timolianischtimo9305
    @timolianischtimo9305 Před 2 lety +23

    Do you have a upload schedule? I want to know when to expect new vids. They're really fun to watch

    • @PalmelaHanderson
      @PalmelaHanderson Před 2 lety +12

      Extra History comes out on Saturdays. Not sure what the schedule is for their other series.

    • @naeemullah6976
      @naeemullah6976 Před 2 lety +2

      @@PalmelaHanderson thank you for the info because i am always desperate for their history videos

  • @joshuafrimpong244
    @joshuafrimpong244 Před 2 lety +18

    India: Come and buy our goods
    Netherlands: Nah m8, we good
    India: We have spices...
    Netherlands: GEKOLONISEERD

  • @lance.2
    @lance.2 Před 2 lety +10

    "Dont tell daddy Bezos that this has a historical precedent"

  • @gadhviviraj9172
    @gadhviviraj9172 Před 2 lety +24

    This will be a really fun series to watch, to know what I ignored in my history class...

  • @imbarmstrong
    @imbarmstrong Před 2 lety +11

    I believe the VOC still remains the most valuable company of all time (if measured in modern currency)

  • @tylerboyce4081
    @tylerboyce4081 Před 2 lety +7

    6:30 Hang on, there was a time in history when British merchants and Japanese ronin teamed up to conduct espionage in Dutch-controlled Indonesia?!? Why the heck isn't someone making *that* film?!?

    • @thethirdsicily4802
      @thethirdsicily4802 Před 2 lety

      Just you wait till you see the Spanish Conquistadors and Aztecs fighting against Ronin and Filipino warriors.

  • @MultiSciGeek
    @MultiSciGeek Před 2 lety

    This is well researched but presented in such a simple and concise manner.
    Your channel is really good at sharing perspectives and capturing the true essence of a historical topic.

  • @yourethatmantis5178
    @yourethatmantis5178 Před 2 lety +5

    I was kind of hoping Armie was going to be a one-time thing.

  • @patrioticchild5570
    @patrioticchild5570 Před 2 lety +56

    Alright we rip on the armchair historian, but what about THE armchair historian, the channel I mean

    • @marcus4046
      @marcus4046 Před 2 lety +10

      has he done a video on the history of armchairs?

    • @dnlowithstripes
      @dnlowithstripes Před 2 lety +11

      Yeah, I really hope this isn't a poke at him, the dude and his team do an amazing work on their videos too.

    • @axelpatrickb.pingol3228
      @axelpatrickb.pingol3228 Před 2 lety +9

      @@dnlowithstripes What makes you think about that? "Armchair [insert field]" is a colloquial term for dilettante, meant to be an insult to that person's (lack of) grasp of a certain field. It's pretty much a generic term for Dunning-Krueger "experts"...

  • @Numba003
    @Numba003 Před 2 lety +1

    I would love to see more episodes on Dutch exploits during this era. Thank you for the interesting content as always!
    Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you friends! :)

  • @trenza2566
    @trenza2566 Před 2 lety +3

    I've been looking for this video for one week

  • @limnostiger9240
    @limnostiger9240 Před měsícem +1

    Definitely the best historical overview

  • @CliffCardi
    @CliffCardi Před 2 lety +7

    Next episode: who would win: 18th century French Army at their strongest? Or some wet gunpowder?

  • @ihatemotionblur_3255
    @ihatemotionblur_3255 Před 2 lety +2

    It's just fascinating how Wellesley took over SO much of India after admittedly very difficult wars with the mysorians and the marathas.

    • @yj9032
      @yj9032 Před 2 lety

      You mean Clive?

    • @ihatemotionblur_3255
      @ihatemotionblur_3255 Před 2 lety +1

      @@yj9032 A mistake on my part; Wellesley was only responsible for the Maratha wars, while the Mysorian wars were done with the governor-general Cornwallis. Also Clive was only responsible for a few battles and peace treaties not taking over large swathes of land.

    • @anirudh177
      @anirudh177 Před 2 lety

      Didn't Wellesley say Assaye was his finest victory? I heard that somewhere, please correct me If I am wrong.

  • @CodaMission
    @CodaMission Před 2 lety +3

    4:15 If anyone is wondering about the Darien Scheme, basically Scotland tried to fund the founding of a colony in Panama, and sunk half the country's budget into the venture. Only once they got there, they realize that not only are Scots not suited to the jungle and Malaria, they also settled on a spot the Spanish claimed. England basically turned to Scotland and said "hey, we'll assume the debt if you join with us as a single nation". Thus, the Acts of Union gave birth to Great Britain

  • @mohdauzan6206
    @mohdauzan6206 Před 2 lety

    great video as always extra credits!

  • @NICK8333
    @NICK8333 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Video Idea: The First Balkan War
    Love the video!!

  • @kuldeeprana1908
    @kuldeeprana1908 Před 2 lety +7

    actually mughals didnt meet britishers until late 17th century and neither dutch , portugese or french ...because mughal empire was situated in north india and had access to sea route only through bengal on east coast ..west coast was under control many small kingdoms ....mughals expanded towards south india but around 1680 and lost control in 1707

  • @andrewvarney5687
    @andrewvarney5687 Před 2 lety

    Loving this series, also I enjoyed the random Vlad cameo!!!

  • @DomyTheMad420
    @DomyTheMad420 Před 2 lety +4

    4:02 *throws hands up and looks at the Dutch flag i have hanging*
    V.O.C! V.O.C! V.O.C!
    GIVE ME YOUR SPICES AND COCONUTS

  • @deepakdahiya9
    @deepakdahiya9 Před 2 lety +2

    Mughals were not present in India when Vasco de gama landed on Indian shores in 1498. There were threw empires ie Delhi sultnate in North, Gajapati empire in East and Vijayanagar empire in South and some smaller states broken from Bahamani Sultnate. Mughals came to India in 1526 and they were able to properly establish themselves by late 1560s during reign of Akbar.

  • @sully-kun3402
    @sully-kun3402 Před 2 lety +3

    5:48 The city was called Batavia back then

  • @marijnverheggen6611
    @marijnverheggen6611 Před 2 lety +5

    3:30 my dutch proud levels whenth trough the roof
    ps GEKOLONISEERD

  • @jibran_r7
    @jibran_r7 Před 2 lety +1

    Man I love this channel

  • @VikingLord101
    @VikingLord101 Před 2 lety

    I really like where Extra History is now covering these new topic hope the team is doing good

  • @kristinkernsnider1479
    @kristinkernsnider1479 Před 2 lety +1

    Here’s a series to do after this a midway series and 3 episodes covering the 3 days of the battle

  • @SkinFlint_
    @SkinFlint_ Před 2 lety +10

    3:26 This is true
    Greetings from a Dutchman.

  • @PeterDebney
    @PeterDebney Před 8 měsíci +1

    One slight correction to this excellent video: the East India Company was named and set up to “venter in the pretended voiage to ye Est Indies and other Ilands and Cuntries thereabouts there to make trade…”
    In other words, their primary target was the East Indies, or Indonesia as we now know it. Failing to beat the Dutch then led to the trade with the Mughals as an afterthought.
    It is no accident that India and Indonesia / East Indies have similar names. They are all named after the Indus River, which is in modern day Pakistan. India meant ‘beyond the Indus’ and is, what we would now call, south and south east Asia.

  • @Dovah22
    @Dovah22 Před 2 lety +57

    I got a feeling Amazons CEO already has a PMC in his back pocket, right next to the “blackmail Brandon” button.

    • @subjekt5577
      @subjekt5577 Před 2 lety

      ...Who's brandon?

    • @Dovah22
      @Dovah22 Před 2 lety +1

      @@subjekt5577 the potato in chief

    • @ccricers
      @ccricers Před 2 lety

      I’d say they’re perfect for each other

    • @WoWhistorian
      @WoWhistorian Před 2 lety +1

      @@Dovah22 That might have been clever if you knew how to spell potato.

    • @Dovah22
      @Dovah22 Před 2 lety

      @@WoWhistorian i was half awake when i typed that.

  • @natashaeliot3628
    @natashaeliot3628 Před 2 lety +4

    In UK schooling I only ever learnt about the EIC in the context of India

    • @jhonshephard921
      @jhonshephard921 Před 2 lety +1

      As someone educated in Pakistan, how do they cover the war of 1857? Rani of Jahansi, Bahadur Shah II, Mangal Pandey and all that?

  • @Kratosfallinmemeiscool
    @Kratosfallinmemeiscool Před 2 lety +4

    5:10 beware, the amazon gestapo

  • @rosant7074
    @rosant7074 Před 2 lety +1

    6:46
    Nice reference to Vlad III

  • @christopherlin4409
    @christopherlin4409 Před 2 lety

    This is my favorite history channel

  • @beaster7635
    @beaster7635 Před 2 lety +2

    Just me or Are those the crystals from boom beach ec yall hiring supercell staff?6:00

  • @andromeda331
    @andromeda331 Před 2 lety

    Great video!

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Před 2 lety

    man this was chock full of fine historical information

  • @realhumphreyappleby
    @realhumphreyappleby Před 2 lety

    The music is awesome too!

  • @Manuel-gk3rv
    @Manuel-gk3rv Před 2 lety +1

    Please make a series about the VOC!

  • @emtactics8074
    @emtactics8074 Před 2 lety +5

    The salt is palpable

  • @PETE316
    @PETE316 Před 2 lety +15

    Love EC so much. Buuuuuuuut can we be done with the talking armchair please?

  • @Buzterer
    @Buzterer Před 2 lety +1

    At some point we are going to need a series on the dutch during this period

  • @behzadparsa44
    @behzadparsa44 Před 2 lety

    good job guys thank you

  • @charleslarrivee2908
    @charleslarrivee2908 Před 2 lety +1

    Looking forward to hearing about Nader Shah in the next video

  • @grapeshott
    @grapeshott Před 2 lety +2

    I will write this under every video of this series- MAKE A TOTAL WAR GAME ON THIS TIME PERIOD, EXCLUSIVELY ON INDIA

  • @jonathanmcalister4423
    @jonathanmcalister4423 Před 2 lety +5

    Would love to see a Portuguese history episode someday.

    • @Eoniclipse
      @Eoniclipse Před 2 lety +1

      Right? So much God damn history to cover..
      One of the biggest empires of the 1600s that is nothing but a shadow now.. only remnants of the language and culture remain, being Merged with local cultures

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 Před 2 lety

      Interesting!?

  • @xenosmoke8915
    @xenosmoke8915 Před 2 lety

    Extra Credits: I’ve been rewatching your entire series again.
    Have you ever thought about revisiting some of your earlier series and expanding on them?
    Also, I don’t know if you still write music for your characters but the Mary Seacole series directly references a magazine that wrote a song for her... just saying 😉

  • @todorvujcic5115
    @todorvujcic5115 Před 2 lety +19

    Greatest team to tell us history

    • @vovoghurejhor8784
      @vovoghurejhor8784 Před 2 lety +7

      check out their other narrator from the past.he was the best.

    • @runajain5773
      @runajain5773 Před 2 lety

      He is good but there is error in histroy

  • @shawnheatherly
    @shawnheatherly Před 2 lety +2

    That Dutch/British comparison got a good laugh out of me.

  • @PakBallandSami
    @PakBallandSami Před 2 lety +1

    great video indian history is so interesting to me even tho i live in the indian subcontinent

  • @nananananananananana1926
    @nananananananananana1926 Před 2 lety +33

    I told Daddy Bezos that companies having soldiers is a historical precedence.

    • @tlhm7102
      @tlhm7102 Před 2 lety +1

      Hol' up.

    • @unclekanethetiberiummain1994
      @unclekanethetiberiummain1994 Před 2 lety +4

      Damn, Pepsi could've have dominated the world if they didn't scrap those ships that were given to them by the Soviets.

    • @quietone610
      @quietone610 Před 2 lety +1

      Any security force that has men in every city can be seen as a shadow military.

  • @rajivjamuar3536
    @rajivjamuar3536 Před 2 lety

    Wow we have this in class and your way better

  • @lightningstrike5024
    @lightningstrike5024 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Writer: How much copium do you want in this video series?
    Producer: *Yes*

  • @lucalovagnini691
    @lucalovagnini691 Před 2 lety

    Love to see Dracula so proud of the Dutch work

  • @hancocki
    @hancocki Před 2 lety

    I hope you'll do a series on another ancient modern company that is still in operation today... the Hudson's Bay company.

  • @Figgy_23
    @Figgy_23 Před 2 lety +1

    It's pretty insane to think companies once were capable of having their own armies and navies... Imagine that today...

  • @willp2906
    @willp2906 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey King George, what's the opposite of tea? YEET.

  • @Shinzon23
    @Shinzon23 Před 2 lety +2

    Yeah, as someone who has an interest in history, its always highly amusing to me that somehow Tiny itty-bitty Little Britain managed to take over so much of the world

  • @paul5475
    @paul5475 Před rokem +1

    I think the main reason why China Korea and Japan was so Persimistic about Weatern and fearing influencing them. Because of India, once a powerful and economically ruboost empire fall in the hands of the British

  • @alexcarbone1222
    @alexcarbone1222 Před 2 lety

    I was waiting for that Amazon parallel