The Mary Tyler Moore Show 1970 CBS Fall Preview
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- This preview for The Mary Tyler Moore Show is from the 1970 CBS fall preview special. The footage is not from the series premiere. Look closely and you'll notice the sets are different as are the clothes.
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I love how they changed the song from 'how will you make it on your own" to "you just might just make it" and finally to "you're going to make it." For the 1970's that truly was optimism for both the show, and women!
Sonny Curtis is a true artist he wrote the song 2 hours it still is awesome in 2023
Oh lawd
Yes, Sonny Curtis was given the job of creating a cute and catchy "jingle" for a comedy show. That theme was so good that today it could be expanded a bit and made into a real 3 min. radio song classic. He truly went above and beyond.
@@MrEdWeirdoShow It was - in 1970 and then another version in 1980: czcams.com/video/DBgRjpJmXcM/video.html
... czcams.com/video/zkuEfGZffRY/video.html
One of the all time great shows.
Indubidubly 🙂
The first time I heard this song, How Will you Make it on Your Own, after my dad died it just sent me into tears. I don’t know, Dad. I miss you.
My prayers. 🙏🏾
I know exactly how you feel.....miss my mom and dad terribly too. Great people robbed of old age.
You will make it...that's what your dad would want.
Made my cell phone alarm tone this theme song after my mom died. SO uplifting.
My condolences to you about this.
Sad that all the major characters in this show are now gone. RIP
John Amos is still alive.
As far as supporting characters from this show go, Gordy the Weatherman, Bess Lindstrum, and Mrs. Slaughter are still alive.
I watched every single episode of MTM. I was 5 when it premiered.
I honestly LOVE how the original demo version of the song builds and builds when she gets to the city. Its literally beautiful and I think they should’ve kept it.
@MD B thanks!! I heard an interview not long ago with theme composer Sonny Curtis. He recorded the original with just a guitar. There were at least six revisions of the song before the show actually premiered!
No they're actually on CZcams. The 1970 single on the ovation label has verse 1 which was the one used on season 1. The single then has a second verse that is a little sexist and an embarrassment, and wisely has not been widely distributed. Season 2 on used a later, third verse (who can turn the world on with her smile) and that was used for the rest of the shows run. An early variant on season one has the line "you're so far from home" instead of "you're all alone".
@@kevins.5439 yes!! The second verse included that “sexy look will do wonders for you…” did not fit the show. Its a beautiful lyric, but didn’t mesh well with the show itself and its theme of feminism and women being able to handle theirselves without the assistance of a man in the 1970s.
@@christopherlucas4620ugh.. feminism
Its a GREAT song, for sure. 🙂
I was 12 in 1970. I loved the theme song. Never missed a Saturday.
As a scrawny shy teenager in the early 70's this show's intro line - how will you make on your own and you might just make after all really struck home for me. Back then if I told anyone my dream job was to be a cop people would have laughed. But I did make it after all and spent 31 wonderful years being an Irish cop. Retired as a sergeant in 2013.
Aw..God Bless ya Rodger!! I too loved and watched this show. I got confidence from it too.
When I was little I thought it was 'You're going naked after all', and I was too embarrassed to ask what that was all about 😆
@@Dehzee ....some of the funniest are misunderstood lyrics. Most everyone has interpreted some sort of sexual reference at one time or another, as kids or teens, where none actually existed. Amazing how our minds quickly go in the direction of the forbidden, lol.
Thank you for your Service.
Approaching 50 And having a weepy night with my dogs,
I can Honestly say I Happily Admit to Playing This On A Loop As I Go To Bed.
And Anytime I need to Feel that I am Still going to Make It After All!
Such a wholesome comment...
They really honed this scene before the final performance and found the beats much better. In the broadcast, the scene really flies--and Mary and Ed's timing is impeccable.
They were perfect together
Yeah, they thought Ed should tone it down a little, if memory serves. A loveable beleaguered boss is better than a perpetually grumpy beleaguered boss any day.
Man, Lou's office was expansive in this series teaser. Great show that didn't skip a beat in seven seasons!
They shot this in an actual office somewhere not on a stage.
In my top 5 best sitcoms of all-time. Incredible writing.
Mary Tyler Moore gets (and deserves) so much praise, but I don't think the show works without Ed Asner. He is exactly the correct grumpy foil for Mary's optimism, and he plays his supporting role flawlessly throughout the run of the show. This scene was precisely the right way to introduce audiences to the series.
What a treat to see something new about one of my favorite shows
❤. This was a show my mother relived. I watched dit as a baby with her and nagged her to explain each joke she lost her breath laughing at. My mom laughed so so hard all the time! ❤
My mom loved this show too. Her favorite episode was “Chuckle’s Bites the Dust”. She and I would watch that episode and, every time, she would be laughing so hard that I would just start laughing hard as well.
RIP Mary Tyler Moore, the true independent woman who did "made it after all".
You know she was born in Flatbush Brooklyn
Is that wrong for a White woman?
@@mstwelvedeadlycyns Nope
Legendary actress. RIP MTM.
Lyrics on this episode, “You might just make it on your own!” On Later episodes, “You’re gonna make it after all!”.
I like the scene where Mary is running out of the house and the Public Transit Bus (GM New Look Fishbowl Bus) is waiting outside for her like a private limo or taxi or nowadays Uber lol. I loved seeing that scene. I guess Mary Richards commuted to work by bus rather than driving in her mustang. Great to see. Thanks for posting this.
Only Mary Richards could get the bus to wait for her like that!
this is cool! never saw this promo before.. what an iconic show
Amazing that they gave this such a long preview.
All the networks used to run a bunch of these short previews (one after the other) on a special right before the new Fall TV season started. This wasn't run as a commercial ad alone.
Mary was so beautiful. She was 'That Girl' 2.0
Rhoda was way hotter . Lol
I wish Minneapolis was still like that...
Interesting to see how different this scene was before the later, polished version. I find it funny in the episode, but here it just felt awkward and too serious.
I seem to recall Lou was pretty skeevy in the polished version compared to this one. He seems a lot more hard-nosed compared to his early behavior, much like his spinoff show.
In the book ‘Mary and Lou and Rhoda and Ted: And All the Brilliant Minds Who Made The Mary Tyler Moore Show a Classic’ they talk about how the version of the first episode that made it to the air was a reshoot after a major reworking because the first version that was filmed didn’t fly with test audiences, I wonder if this footage was from that first version, If remember the book correctly the test audiences said they felt Mr. Grant was mean to Mary, I kinda get that vibe from this clip.
I know this is an old comment, but the polished version is much much better. This was a bit more light-hearted than what actually aired, plus Ed Asner just just doesn’t have that twinkle in his eye after he delivers the “I hate spunk” line in this version, but man I LOVED this variation of Sonny Curtis’ theme.
@@DOSv622 There's an interview with MTM where she states that the overall changes to the script were fairly minor. One change was that the character Bess took a liking to Rhoda, who was poorly received because of her initially adversarial relationship with Mary.
It's amazing how you didn't have to have a college degree to work in any part of television. In front of or behind the scenes. Now they want you to have a college degree in communications and all this other jazz.
It's cool seeing the prototype for the interview scene.
In this preview & first show we see the real Mary Richards take care of herself by standing up to Mr. Grant respectfully. The acting & writing was just right & this was the core relationship viewers were introduced to & which ran through the series. What a gem! An adult comedy which made you laugh & think at the same time. Let's go back to 1970.
That's so underrated! Standing up to a prospective boss was unheard of! I love this scene.
I was 6 when this show came on and i like the scenes of minneapolis when I was a kid.
I loved this show. Really.. it was ahead of it's time
I'm 1975 I was at harbor College in Wilmington California and I was in love with her show
And a legend is born.
I like the way the way the theme music/lyrics start slow and then build as she enters the city. It's similar to the slow place of a small town (from whence she came) to the fast-paced, confident city.
I enjoy looking at the old background scenes of Minneapolis that doesn't exist anymore. I think that parking lot by a lake is either by Lake Calhoun[as it was called then], Lake of the Isles or Cedar Lake. It's so fuzzy I can't really tell. The Foshay Tower is there, along with the old Curtis Hotel.
A totally lovely woman - I will always miss her.
The Minneapolis footage was shot sometime in March 1970,Note the snow was in patches
She said it was 5 degrees out there when she threw her hat up
@@ml.vaughn2122 Thats March in Minnesota, You can be below zero and snow to 70's in a matter of day and vice versa!
Outside footage was shot in February 1970 from this interview I was reading.... “We were out there in the middle of February in Minneapolis, freezing. They just wanted shots of me in action.”
“I was in front of a department and they said: ‘Oh! Look, here, run out into that intersection and take your hat - which I had in my hand - and throw it in the air, as if this is the happiest moment of your life,’ ” she recalled. “And I did, and that was it.”
Always Loved The Theme And The Show
"New this fall on CBS. "
I think it’s pretty good! It really set the stage for the whole series. Being the pilot teaser this was a genius scene to capture the imagination - it’s got everything and yet it is very simply played. It’s got conflict and antidote, hope and resolution, and we wonder what’s next. The characters are intriguing, though only touch the surface of how they would blossom. Mr Grant would later forgo the coffee pot and grab the bourbon out of the bottom drawer. Mary would learn to be direct with Mr Grant’s chauvinism. The casting of Ed Asner was brilliant.
I came here today after seeing a meme: the end shot of the shows opening of Mary throwing her “mask” instead of her hat. I thought it was brilliant and as the mask mandate is lifted I think we are all, a bit like Mary: full of nervous anticipation and hope. Everyone of us has a story or two from the past year and a half - many of loss destruction and grief. I know I am over simplifying the thing but I need to get beyond it. I want to feel a bit more like Mary Tyler Moore and believe I can turn the world on with a smile. I can take a nothing day and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile. Well it's me and I should know it
With each glance and every little movement I show it. Love is all around no need to fake it
I can have the town, why don't I take it
I’m gonna make it after all!
I hope whoever sees this that you are ok, in one piece and have a roof over your head and food in your stomach. And above all don’t loose hope. You’re gonna make it after all. XO 😘
HEARTFULLY, WONDERFULLY, BEAUTIFULLY & ELOQUENTLY EXPRESSED. THANK YOU. BLESSINGS TO N FOR & EVERYONE WHO WAS TOUCHED BY MARY TYLER MOORE, ALL OF THE CHARACTERS, THE LOVELY, INSPIRATIONAL THEME SONG, AND YOUR WORDS OF WISDOM.
I never fail to return to the beloved Mary Tyler Moore Show for many of the reasons you stated so beautifully in your comment.
We all need an occasional escape from the chaos of the day & find comforting refuge in the wit & humor... in the pure joy offered by the legendary characters of the MTM Show. Oh how I miss them. They did... & often still have the power to remind us there is reason to remain positive. This dear show still inspires hope in our hearts that life can always get better. I think that is, in part, why I revisit Mary & Lou & their newsroom.
I must say tho... our world has become barely recognizable today (Thurs. Aug. 10, 2023) compared to +/-50 yrs. ago (oh... time is SO fleeting!), when the MTM Show was on the air. It's becoming increasingly difficult to hold on to hope, even with the help of Mary & her friends.
So I'm curious... are you as hopeful today as you were when you wrote your lovely, heartfelt comment?💕💕💕
Awesome! I remember seeing this on TV, never repeated of course, since it was just all of the new CBS "Fall line up" previews. My how time flies!!! lol
Lovely intro... Thank YOU for Posting.
whoever polished this before it was released is a genius …
Mary hadn’t quite polished her character then, yet she did an amazing job of creating Mary Richards v 2.0 …
Having worked for several news directors, and also having been one myself, Mr. Grant's office is very much like those in the newsrooms where I've been.
I've read that scene was filmed at KTLA.
Thank you so much for posting this. I was not aware of the history of one of my favorite shows ever.
WOW 😲😳 This was 53 YEARS AGO TODAY. SEPTEMBER 1970.
Wow!!!! I wonder if Sonny Curtis knows this exists? I think this was his ORIGINAL Recording played to James L Brooks…. (Just with instruments added over) I like the “girl you’ll be so far from home” lyrics!!
Happy 50th Anniversary! I am watching all the episodes within the bext few weeks.
Must be the earliest recording of Sonny Curtis' theme song other than the demo cassette when he first played it for James Brooks who wanted a copy as they left to shoot the titles.
I was thinking the same thing Sonny Curtis mentions the fact he did a demo cassette with just him and an acoustic guitar that he played for James L. Brooks. I wonder if this was the original first copy.
I’ve seen him in another interview saying that other instruments were added in much later after he recorded his version.
I remember seeing this online years ago and it's so cool to find it again! Thanks for sharing!
"Now let's get together with Mary Tyler Moore ... she'll make you happy."🤣🤣 For some reason i found that hilarious.
"Mary's making new friends."... 😆😉
She says a great role model growing up. Clean, fresh and loved her job and coworkers.
Great actress
Interesting early version and visualization of Sonny Curtis' theme {seen only during the UNAIRED version of the pilot episode}. This scene was filmed [and later refined] for the benefit of this "fall preview". The actual "pilot" episode was filmed in June 1970.
Saudades eternas!! Desde meus 8 anos assisti até o último. Hoje com 60 anos ainda assisto a capítulos. Muito obrigado pela lembrança! Desde Porto Alegre city Brasil .😢
Great! Non of this ever was included in a set box or documentary.
every little girl and woman’s role model such a legend not many actress like this now except Sandra bullock
I really love this version of Sonny singing, ballad-like. And how in the heck did this show gain traction on Tuesdays?
It didn’t. One of the CBS executives, in fact the only bigwig who liked the show, convinced whoever was in charge of programming to switch it to Saturdays.
@@CBS70s Ah! Thanks!!
I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you for uploading.
Lou would certainly get sued today for asking those questions; and most likely, the station would fire him.
OH WOW THANKS FOR SHOWING THIS FOR ALL OF US MARY FANS. VERY COOL VIDEO. THIS IS ONE OF MY ALL TIME FAVORITE SHOWS THE REPEATS ARE ON DECADES.
How interesting seeing an early edit containing lots that wasn’t shown in the finished intro, makes me miss my parent’s generation like all the WW2 vets who were still part of the workforce and able to afford those big floor model color sets.
Wow! I've never seen this. Thanks so much for posting it.
@MD B yes, and a different pilot. So glad it exists.
I was only Four when this show premiered. I thought she was so brave to go out on her own. I thought she was driving halfway across the country but she was going from St. Paul to Minneapolis, MN.
@laminage though she drives past a sign for St Paul, she wasn't from there. She left a small town to move to the big city
She was from a fictional small town in Minnesota.
@@vincegay986 Roseburg MN
@@cynthiagordon143 …not to be confused with Roseville, a Twin Cities suburb, and home to Rosedale shopping center.
The sign is for a junction where the choices lead to either Minneapolis or St. Paul. Maybe one of the spots where I-35 splits into I-35W and I-35E?
This scene must have been a test or done specifically for promo reasons. Interesting how much more polished it got before it made it to the air.
I really like this version of the theme song. It’s the first season, but, far more upbeat.
Very 60s
Probably just because I'm not accustomed to this 'set' of Mr. Grant'soffice; but it does appear more 'realistic' to me...
Yes, it's smaller and "busier".
The colour is so washed out I didn’t even notice it was different.
I like the way she stood up for herself. In the 70s, that was frowned upon. In the 80s, it was hard, too, I remember. Male bosses were jerks.
Love this ! Mary sorta of flubbed the reaction line to Ed’s spunk line, she pauses a few seconds before delivering it which almost ruins the laugh!
Love this!!!
Back when the networks cared about what was on during the weekend prime time slots.
MTM was born in Manhattan and lived in Brooklyn till the eight, when she and her family moved to Los Angeles. I notice she didn't speak with the tiniest trace of a Non Yawk accent.
It was all those years in New Rochelle with Dick Van Dyke. 😉
@@chrislacke5188 LOL
In an interview I remember Mary saying that her mother was very focused on her and her siblings NOT having a Brooklyn accent.
Probably because she grew up in California and her Dad was from Virginia.
MTM, is a national GEM !
Originally, Mary was intended to be scheduled on Tuesdays at 8pm(et). Mike Dann, CBS' chief programmer, decided her program wasn't going to "make it", scheduling it opposite the second half of ABC's "MOD SQUAD" {the "competition" didn't last long against that- about a season or so}. Suddenly, Dann resigned that summer- and Fred Silverman took his place. HE decided Mary HAD to have a better night and time in order to succeed...and a few weeks before the new season began, he placed it after "ARNIE" on Saturday nights {at 9:30}. "GREEN ACRES" was moved into that Tuesday night time period instead (surrounded by "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES" and "HEE HAW"; all of those were cancelled at the end of the 1970-'71 season).
And the rest is, as we say, situated comedy history.
@Sebastian Guevara They were hit shows nevertheless. CBS needed a change and they got it. So what are you whining about? Huh?
@Sebastian Guevara And they are NOT crap! Didn't you watch those shows when you were a kid? In daily reruns on certain independent stations? Hmm?
Sebastian Guevara revisionist history and the opposite was true. Those shows had run their course. There was nothing like All in the family. It got ratings that will never be seen again. The worst episode of Mary Tyler Moore was better than any episode of the shows that were canceled.
Robert Wood was president of CBS in 1970- and saw what was going on with the other networks. They were beginning to produce programs that appealed to a younger audience- the kind that advertisers were trying to attract (like "ROWAN & MARTIN'S LAUGH-IN"). CBS, on the other hand, was #1- and had six of the Nielsen "Top Ten" shows scheduled on network television in the 1969-'70 season. But they were aimed at OLDER VIEWERS...and most of them attracted "rural audiences": "THE RED SKELTON HOUR" [#7], "THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW", "THE GLEN CAMPBELL GOODTIME HOUR", "THE BEVERLY HILLBILLIES", "GREEN ACRES", "PETTICOAT JUNCTION", "MY THREE SONS", "FAMILY AFFAIR" [#5], "HERE'S LUCY" [#6], "MAYBERRY R.F.D." [#4], "LASSIE", "GUNSMOKE" [#2] and "THE DORIS DAY SHOW" [#10]. But even Doris realized that her program had to be "urbanized", because she really didn't like the "rural" background of her initial season. Wood told Bill Paley- "Mr. CBS", and chairman of the board of the Columbia Broadcasting System- that the network's schedule had to be "revitalized" for the fall of 1970, or they'd lose ground to NBC and ABC. "You can either watch the parade of fresh new programming from your rocking chair on the front porch.....or YOU can LEAD that parade", Wood insisted. Paley favored the "status quo", but was convinced that changes HAD to be made- and allowed Bob Wood to cancel those shows that appealed to people over the age of 50.........so he got rid of Gleason and Skelton for starters.
I only wish finding a job were that easy nowadays. I know, its only a TV show. 1970 wow, long time ago. She sure was a pretty lady then.
Lucky silent generation and boomers generation. Unbelievable.
I was two years old in 1970.
@@alexsdb9712 oh for fucksake, you actually believe what happened on the TV show happened in real life? No wonder this country is so screwed. It's a freaking TV show. I went into the workforce not long after this show was on the air, late 70s, I sure as hell didn't get a great job. And I sure as hell didn't get it on the first interview. But then again, this is a fictional television show. I guess Millennials don't understand the difference between real life and fiction anymore. Maybe that's why you can't get a job.
@@heronpage3883 Concluding, judging is going to get you nowhere. Critical thinking will, however. Thank you for your comment, but most of all for reading my own comment. And not everyone on the www is from your country. It's a great, big world out there. All the best!
She was a pretty lady her whole life
MTM Beautiful.
I’m sure I saw this preview during my young life, but it doesn’t ring a bell consciously.
It's really amazing how many Mary pilots there were...THIS one made the grade.
Everyone loves Mary.
RIP, Mary Tyler Moore
Fantastic 😊
Wow, that first line of copy. “Now let’s get together with Mary Tyler Moore. She’ll make you happy!” Y-I-K-E-S
Ed Asner's performance in the actual episode taping was worlds better. He's a little too gruff here. It is really interesting to see this early attempt at that iconic interview scene. Different set, different clothes, different attitude from Lou!
I know I'm late to the party. But now I have to binge watch ALL 7 Seasons now! I have such a great idea for a brand new show similar to this, based off the experiences of my life too!
What was awesome here wasn't specifically the news room, in comparison to today's shows.
Today's show breed narcissism, contempt in relationships. Lines can be read be read interchangeably between most characters, all the lines are just clever put downs of other characters.
It is tedious, a bad influence, and even if you laugh at the put downs, it doesn't truly leave you feeling good after.
Golden girls supposedly cared for one another, but they only spoke to one another with contempt.
I remember having to unlearn the behaviour patterns I watched on tv as a kid. I just thought that was how people spoke to each other.
I’m curious if you did your binge! I’ve been slowly working my way through the series, watching about 5 episodes a week, mostly during my lunch breaks. I probably started this about 6 months ago. I’ve watched 127 episodes so far! It’s so enjoyable, like comfort food. GREAT ensemble cast, lead by the magnetic and VERY likable Mary (but the show did miss Rhoda wen she left).
@@Dehzee Good observations. I will say though, the Ted Baxter character is CONSTANTLY being put down, especially by Murray. That part of the show has gotten a little old for me as I slowly move through the series. Great series though…
@@Dehzee what you’re saying is soooo true. I have also not owe that contemporary comedy is all irony and put-downs and all that genuine affection and caring has been written out of comedy. In the MTM show the gags were never really put-downs. They may have been sarcastic but somehow you got a Sense of an underlying respect between the characters and for others. It’s interesting how much social cohesion has been eroded in the past 50 years and it’s quite shocking in fact. The reason the Mary show transcends time is because at it’s core it’s about people who loved each other and worked well together and respected each other …. good television should educate and not just entertain. The Mary show did all of that which is why we remember it so fondly, that it makes us all cry: both tears of laughter and of sadness.
@@joeterp5615 yes the Ted Baxter character became a little tiring I think because he was a caricature and cartoonish and not as well rounded as the others but his character was fleshed out as the series progressed. He provided the buffoon clowning element which is essential in sitcoms though so I suppose that why he was written that way. His character had initially been designed to be a different tall dark and handsome anchor type and was rewritten once Ted auditioned and brought a different style to the character. All in all though they got it very right and in comparison to all the tacky & forgettable garbage on Tv today, I think MTM was wonderful.
This brings back how excited I was as a child before this show premiered. This is precious and rare footage. I think the CBS promo for the fall season was...The Eyes have It.
The 1970-71 season promo campaign was “We’re Putting It All Together.”
@@toddanthony6664thanks Todd
Plus this preview version was obviously not filmed before a live audience, as the eventual first episode and show-run would be. ❤
I'm disappointed I wasn't the first to notice this was not the same as the related episode. It's really
cool to say this less polished scene.
I loved this !
You can't fool me. I know this show aired Saturday night at 9PM (on the east coast) ...
The best ever!
Did they ever think this show would be a landmark series.
The story behind this is very interesting. It's included on the DVD of the first season of the Mary Tyler Moore Show. In short, (and I'm paraphrasing quite a bit) CBS wanted some kind of film to show the network brass or affiliates and nothing of the show had really been shot yet; there was no pilot that had been finished. A skeleton crew was put together: one of the creators, Jim L. Brooks or Allan Burns, a camera man and Mary and Ed Asner.
EVERYTHING was done quickly, including the building of a claustrophobic, cheap set. The choice was made to film the scene that was causing the most trouble, the interview scene. As Mary relates, Ed had reverted back to his dramatic roots and delivered his lines more as drama than comedy (the very mistake he had made in playing the very same same during his first audition.) Also, Mary relates that because there was no studio audience and this was done with a single camera, the rhythm needed to make the scene work was lost.
Everyone knew this filmed presentation wasn't going to win any fans at CBS. Even they didn't like it.
This is a pretty amazing find! So the interview scene we’re accustomed to seeing from the aired pilot was possibly the third time it was shot? I wonder if Ed was cast earlier than the other actors.
It’s so cool to hear Sonny Curtis’ earliest version of the theme song and a few never seen early clips of Mary running around Minneapolis that weren’t ever used.
I’d love to see the unaired pilot that the cbs brass and test audience hated so much... the one where Mary came across as a loser and Rhoda as very unlikeable and pushy. Seeing the origins and rocky beginnings of an ultimately great show is fascinating!
@@rexdby2984 I'll have to go back to the DVD and check it out, because I thought the pilot that tested so badly was the episode that ended up being aired. Comments are made in the interviews about how awful those testing sessions were. Often they didn't really give a good or accurate indication of how an audience at home would react to the episode on television.
Also, keep in mind, as Jim L. Brooks and Allan Burns commented, this show really broke ground as far as characters were concerned. Nobody had seen a "Rhoda" before; the audience "feared" for poor Mary when Lou blustered against her. Mary was probably conceived as a "loser" because she was 30 and single. Marlo Thomas had broken ground as a single girl on her show, "That Girl", but people still thought a woman should be married by 30.
Gavin MacLeod actually tested first for the part of Lou Grant and got it- but he told the producers he actually wanted the part of Murray. Ed came later and had a LOT of trouble initially dialing back his dramatic acting roots.
Like you said, I'm endlessly fascinated by the really rocky road this show took. There is another post here on youtube where the show is being promoted along with other new CBS shows and I keep thinking how strangely spooky it is. Here was this promo with upbeat, happy music and Mary smiling while behind the scenes, many at CBS didn't feel it had a chance. Then CBS got a new president, Robert Wood, who listened to his new vice president of programming, Fred Silverman. It was Fred who knew CBS had a good thing but was about to murder it by placing on Tuesday nights. The decision was made to put it on Saturday nights and that turned out to be the miracle the show needed. (by the way, I just saw that Barry I. Grauman already covered this part!)
Thanks for this explanation. It struck me as off-balance, too. I was wondering what was going on here.
Interesting how the narrator mentioned "Mary's making all new friends." It's almost like an intentional attempt at distancing from her previous - and somewhat iconic - TV character of just a few years earlier, Laura Petrie, on "The Dick Van Dyke Show."
Wow! I'm so glad to finally see "Black Tuesday" version of this scene!
Watch her body language. He moves in close, looking intimidating. Though she is nervous, she never backs down.
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Mary Tyler Moore
Power woman
I can see how this version scared the producers so much; it didn't gel the way it did when they taped it later.
Wow. Have never seen this!! This is the version that bombed
This was never aired. This was internal for CBS only.
@@dannydougin3925 But there was an MTM pilot that bombed, and they had to re-shoot much of the first show, including the opening scene in the apt. (make Rhoda more likeable) and the scene at WJM newsroom.
Wow! I never get tired of watching this version. I think the show would have gotten slaughtered in the ratings if they left it on Tuesday.
I’m about to watch this show for the first time
I don't think I've ever seen this before but if I did -- it was at age nine when this sitcom first aired.
I have a playlist of MTM shows that I listen to at nite sometimes …
reminds me of a time when the World was a gentler kinder place 🫶🏼
and how come on the tv show, the closed caption sometimes says "You can never tell, why don't you take it"
Buongiorno Nicoula e buon inizio settimana
The Mary Tyler Moore Show was filmed in front of a studio audience. Clearly, this preview used a laugh track. Some of the clips in the intro are different as well (around 0:35).