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Detroit Diesel OEM parts vs PAI Aftermarket parts DD15 engine overhaul kit quality and price
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2021
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Always use the proper tools and safety equipment to perform this job.
Failure to perform the job correctly can result in personal injury or vehicle damage.
Don't do this job if you think you don't have the experience or the equipment to do this job correctly. REMEMBER SAFETY FIRST!
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This video is just a demonstration of the labor to do to perform this job, the results may vary.
Also, the damage found can be greater that expected and it can result in a massive engine failure.
This video contains advance technician information.
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cummins isx cummins isx15 cummins n14 cummins m11 cummins isb cummins isb DD15 DD13 DD16 Series 60 caterpillar C15 3406 C13 OM 460 OM471 OM472 OM473 mercedes benz atros DD13 DD15 DD16 60 series class 8 truck tractor
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is PAI aftermarket better than oem detroit diesel
what overhaul kit is better for my engine
what is the best option to by to save money to repair your engine
what is better for long haul truck aftermarket or oem original
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My rule of thumb is.. If you can easily touch it to change it and you want to take a chance on an aftermarket part then it's okay to try it.. If you have to disassemble a lot of parts to get to it and you can't see it or touch it then go with O.E.M.. hands down!
I did a rebuild on a 2012 Volvo D13 engine and took the engine apart and guess what??? The pistons were Mahle Clevite with Volvo stamped in it as well...Mahle also makes aftermarket kits for heavy truck diesel engines. Mahle makes performance parts for racing car engines, I can't think you could ever go wrong with Mahle Clevite for heavy duty truck parts.
PAI is reputable
CAT uses it sometimes for rebuild
so im guessing its just as good
i did it for 12.7L detroit
300k miles on overhaul
still no issues
I will go with the OEM b/c of labor and down time cost
All of it is aftermarket!!!! The name of freightliner, Volvo, Mack, international,etc is the sponsor
PAI used to make parts for Mack Engines before they switched to Volvo Engines.. They offer 2 year unlimited mileage.
Yes, I am rebuilding my Mack E9- mack parts not available, PAI is the only company making replacement parts- The liner/piston kit has a 2 year unlimited warranty.
I used PAI on a in frame in a series 60 12.7 lasted 448000 miles before I replaced headgasket due to 5 and 6 cylinder seals blew pushing coolant out reservoir
Can you please do an comparison of OEM vs Heavy Highway Parts Overhaul Kit
You pay for quality 👍👍
Hey Francisco I have used pai parts for a whole isx rebuilt I personally have good results from pai parts that I will not use oem parts on the truck
Really so you have good experience with pai parts
I did a complete overhaul on my 12.7 with the PAI HP Kit been 1 year 6 months and kicking still so I'm not sure
How much it cost your overhaul?
@@ThePacokanada2812 I did everything new man new head new rocker arms new camshaft the entire bullgear assembly etc roughly 17k that I remember including mechanic
@@Elduro1989 Thanks, I know it's more expensive at a dealer, but will it be better? What is the price difference between a kit like this and oem kit?
@@ThePacokanada2812 I have the PAI kit as well. The kit costed $17k. I also had to buy turbos and some other stuff individually so it brought it up to $21k. I don’t really care for heaving the BEST deal. I just want to throw new parts at my shit. I’m tired of breakdowns
@@Elduro1989 Where's the mechanic plz
When you rebuild an Engine, it's very risky in my opinion to spend that extra money for oem because if you don't know how good your mechanic of choice really is, no matter how good the parts are, the engine will break down soon. And if your doing an inframe, I would never choose to use oem. I would only use Oem if the engine is taken a part completely and every single components are taken to the machine shop.
Why is this?
@@oraliaornelas2080 major overhaul meet all measurements spec and cleaned properly including oil galleries. All this can be done in a shop with proper tools and experience. Major overhauled engine shoyld last as new one from the factory if properly maintained and cared
What’s the cost difference. How much is the Oem rebuild kit and this one
So what company do you think makes the best aftermarket kit for the dd15
Glad you getting more subscribers now.
Hello Francisco 2015 FRT DD15 540Kmiles ,We Did oil change at truck service , the truck came from Chicago with 19K load all was perfect , oil Mobil 15-40 , all filter OEM , after oil change with all filters (oil and fuel ) the truck start 30second and shutdown by it self , start again same 30 second , then continued alarm came and shutdown, heavy cranking began , replace OEM starter same , 4 new Battery same , then found no oil in engine, so boss what do you thing where oil gone ? Perpare my self for big bad news ? BTW ( we change oil every 10k miles ) thank you so much
Was this the pai HP or the standard one
Paco tell me something.... Which engine es better for rebuild? And of course the best price and quality...
Un muy humble opinión Pay atention to detail AND you Will be fine
What is your thoughts on the 12.7 Detroit
Hi man I just got a used motor put in my 2015 DD15 cascadia motor is running at over 210 water temperature at 1400rpm and if I run at 1500 rpm water temperature goes down to 200 or less can you please advise me if it is ok thanks
Thanks for the video
Very interesting channel colleagues, bravo 👏
I just started managing the shop for our family business. My mechanic keeps insisting that cause I went with PAI is the reason the truck locked up. Even though he didn't prime the oil after overhaul. What's your view on this?
Get rid of the mechanic.
I asked my mechanic how he was going to prime the engine right after rebuild with pai..he poured the two buckets ...over the.cykinder head...
Spread the oil on all the valve train...and goes straight down the oil pan..making sure critical parts are lubricated before dry start....truck started like it sat overnight
As a shop owner i learn something if you let tour costomer Buy their own parts you Will loose that good costomer after market Will never have the same quality as oem parst
Fire him its bs
After performing an overhaul your mechanic should prime the oil system thru the fitting in the oil cooler module, that's in the service manual I think you pump 8 qts in total, also I would check the o-rings that goes in the connection tubes between the oil suction manifold and oil pump, those get brittle over time causing oil pressure drops; most probably your engine suffer from oil starvation and didn't last much until a rod bearing spin and may damage the cylinder block.
Also it's very important to check the bypass valve in the stad pipe for the oil filter, it should be on place and not stuck, very easy to change and not an expensive part that could cause an expensive failure.
Cual es la dirección del shop tengo 2015 cascadia que quiero hacer el overhaul kit
hey where can i get a overhaul kit for a 2007 mercedes benz c200
O son muy buenos imitadores o realmente son buenos... Necesitarías un laboratorio con espectrómetro para verificar la calidad de los aceros.
Buen vídeo. Gracias por compartir.
Teníamos motores Cummins big cams, 2 camiones hicimos medias con partes Cummins originales y duraron 3 y 4 años antes de que las camisas se dañaran. A otro big cam y a un N14 hicimos la reparación con partes Felpro y ningún problema. Se vendieron los camiones y aún siguen trabajando bien después de 10 años.
@@martymc92 .
Por mi punto de vista ..cuando yo era chófer de una copmania bastante grande .. me acuerdo vque nos daban camiones cada tres años...y a pesar que me aferre con quedarme con el más viejito de todo el flete...y le dije a mi despachador que porque cambian de camiones ..si apenas tienen tres años..ni siquiera 200 mil millas..( hacía entregas alrededor del las cuidad)..
Esto fue lo que me contestó...
Las compañías..(empresas)..grandes tiene un departamento que se llama (risk management).. departamento de riesgos..que analizan situaciones para . no perder dinero..
Entonces lo que entendí..es que a los tres años..empiezan las fallas..se acaban las garantías..depende las millas.. etc..y cosas así...y ahora que soy dueño de camión...y por lo entiendo y e visto..que ay que estar listo para las partes vque no te duren..igual que comprar cosas para tus autos. .casa ..ropa....etc..etc...que opinas??
I have Cummins ISX please change the head gasket for me
thx
Haha that’s prove that companies playing with our dollars they buy aftermarket and stamp oem lol 😂
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M using OEM parts on m overhaul, my channel is kens jobs 👍
Saludes francisco
Where is your shop located
2nd rule of thumb.. You get what you pay for..
What the price difference (cual es la differiencia de precio)
La mitad de precio
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How much
Go OEM the after market stuff just never lasts as long
What's your basis for that or just repeating what you heard
Not true im a cat man and a cat platinum kit is usually mostly reused parts ipd has best pistons in mining industry their heads are far superior to cats garbage
Senor Francisco where are you based ?
I think Fontana ca
Hi..francisco.im doing an inframe..in a mack e7 ...liners are original ...only the pistons are pai...are good or bad...
Did you finish the inframe? And what brand did you go with? I also have a mack with an e7 460 etec that I want to do an inframe. How much did you pay?
On cat engines i use ipd...or fp ..
On cummins isx ..bettet original
What do you think about a PAI for a C15 double turbo? The OEM is up to $17K !! Is wayyyy too expensive!!! But I want something the can last, I will use a original head and the other parts just the inframe PAI! So if you can get back to me I will really appreciate it!🙏🏻
Just put the oem.
Cummins ISX or DD15
Non they both suck! They are emission engines! Big cam cummins 3 is the best Of 3406b or c!
@@jopete681😂😂😂😂 u have no idea what ur talking about my dd15 has over 900,000 miles and still running strong haven’t touched anything
@@avitia38super you know your right, you couldn’t give me a dd15! I am very happy I don’t own a piece of shit like that! It will cost you more for the def filter and to rebuild that climate change motor! So my cost per mile is cheaper! And a million and a half is about what we get out of ours before overhauling! You also need a computer to fix that one I don’t so your at a disadvantage! I can rebuild mine in a parking lot if i had too you can’t and they don’t put junk like that In kenworths or peterbilt and thats all i buy! Good luck! This game is about strategy!
OEM is Always Better
Don’t believe that you’re only paying for a name
And always more expensive for sure