42. The Transitional Plane

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • All you need to know about this part-metal-part-wooden alternative plane. Usually less expensive, but with a superior iron and all the advantages of a wooden sole plus modern metal-plane adjustments.
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Komentáře • 82

  • @billF2380
    @billF2380 Před měsícem

    I have a couple of transitional Jack planes. I love them. My go to Jack planes.

  • @linuxjcajca7806
    @linuxjcajca7806 Před 10 měsíci +1

    A big thank you for your videos, it's really great to see woodworking without electric machines which allow anyone to achieve anything without being a real carpenter.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před 10 měsíci

      You are very welcome

    • @adamguinnmusic5871
      @adamguinnmusic5871 Před 5 měsíci

      I am mostly a hand tool guy.
      But that's not fair to say. Plenty of skill, planning, and accurate execution required to build something with power tools.
      Try crafting something yourself and you will learn.

  • @craigtanner6916
    @craigtanner6916 Před rokem +2

    Great presentation! I always learn so much from your “ lessons”. Thanks for all your hard work bringing this to the masses!

  • @darkounet3478
    @darkounet3478 Před rokem +1

    Theses planes are highly underrated. I bought one once because it looked nice and unusual (at least here in continental europe). It's now my main user, it glides so well over the wood and has all the bailey feature plus it's super light. Simply amazing.

  • @Aimsmallmiss
    @Aimsmallmiss Před rokem +2

    Transitional planes are my all time fave it’s got the Bailey mechanics and the wood bottom that seems too burnish the wood at the same time. And the mix of wood and metal come on lol

  • @1deerndingo
    @1deerndingo Před rokem

    Thank you. The transitional plane design is a great compromise that keeps the advantages of Bailey's design and the smoother working of the wooden plane.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem +1

      I agree, but there are still better planes, such as 'infill' planes and some of the newer metal planes like those made by Lie-Nielsen. Nevertheless the less expensive planes such as regular wooden (and transitional planes) can still be used to great advantage when well fettled.

  • @goodoledave723
    @goodoledave723 Před rokem +1

    Thanks, I always though the transitional plans were the "tweeners, between wood and metal. Thanks for the education.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Před rokem +1

    Pretty nice looking plane indeed, Graham! I'm definitely going to look for those! Thanks! 😃
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @ikust007
    @ikust007 Před rokem +1

    Thank you. Didn’t know it came after the metal planes!

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      Yes I know, it's not clear from tne name.

  • @edwardog
    @edwardog Před 10 měsíci

    This was really helpful! I inherited a transitional jointer and have always been curious about the depth adjustment threading. It’s comforting to know it is just one of the type’s quirks 😄

  • @roman_le
    @roman_le Před rokem +1

    Thank you Graham!
    When you said "it's actually not Stanley", things got clear.
    I have the Stanley#5 like plane made by soviet Sestroretsk Tool Factory (near Leningrad). This odd blade protrusion setting confuses me a lot too. "-- Are they too lazy to get a set of left tap/die?", -- that's what I thought.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem +2

      Not sure about the reason for the thread direction, but I felt it ought to be noted.

  • @5StoryWoodWorks
    @5StoryWoodWorks Před rokem +1

    I use my transitional Bailey smoother often. It is a bit fiddly but I get great results. The blade steel holds an edge and produces a glass smooth finish.

  • @ArchEdge
    @ArchEdge Před rokem

    Thankyou Graham - Another great video. Also - im thoroughly enjoying Vol 1 & 2 Traditional Handtools books.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      Nice to hear. Thank you!

  • @andypickard9603
    @andypickard9603 Před rokem

    Just been lucky enough to buy one of your books at the national trust stourhead bookstore illustrated furniture making !

  • @bobbabcock3847
    @bobbabcock3847 Před rokem

    Thank you very much. I have a Siegely No 26 jack plane and a Stanley No 35 smoother in the razee (?) style body. Once fettled I hope to use them as my full-time bench planes.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      Both good planes (just saw a mint Stanley 35 for $700!)

  • @richarde7432
    @richarde7432 Před rokem +1

    In addition to the advantages of adjustability, there is much less drag than a cast iron plane and it's lighter which is less tiring than a metal plane. Be advised that if you have trouble adjusting the blade because it sticks out too far, the wooden sole may be worn. You may need to glue a 3/16th of an inch thick piece of wood to the bottom to renew the sole.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      Definately a possible solution.

  • @carsonwells1785
    @carsonwells1785 Před 5 měsíci

    When the frog is adjusted forward to reduce the mouth opening, doesn't that leave the blade hanging out in the air, unsupported by the wooden bedding surface? And if so, what effect does that have on the quality of cut, chatter, etc. With the full metal plane, the bottom of the frog is just a small fraction of an inch above the sole, while the thick wooden base of the transitional plane greatly extends that distance. My curiosity is fueled by my belief that wood on wood is a whole lot smoother and easier than metal on wood, so I would be shopping for a transitional plane except for my doubts on its ability to churn out gossamer shavings like either the all wood or all metal planes.
    I continue to enjoy your videos and learn something new from each of them. Thanks for your time and knowledge and your willingness to share both. I'm still working my way through your book on woodworking tools, and love every moment I get to spend reading it.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před 5 měsíci

      The critical gap is the distance between the front of the cutting iron and and the back of the front of the plane's sole. The iron does not really need to be fully supported by the frog.
      (BTW I share your appreciation for the transitional planes' wooden soles)

  • @Christopher_Giustolisi
    @Christopher_Giustolisi Před 6 měsíci

    I find it really sad that noone makes those transitional planes anymore because it gives you the best of both worlds. I prefer a wooden sole because it glides so much nicer. Shure, you can apply wax or other stuff to a cast iron plane but that´s an additional step. So I stick to the Germans style wooden planes. The adjustment is easy and over the years, they made versions with adjustment mechanisms similar to the cast iron planes. But the transitional plane is just a thing of beauty because when the sole is ever worn out and the mouth became to wide, you only have to take a simple block of wood, chop a hole into it and screw the whole assemply on top. That´s genius. I honestly can´t understand why the metal version won the battle. Pushing these things over the wood is so much more work than the easy gliding wooden planes. I bought cast iron planes because so many youtube woodworkers use them. I bought even nice, expensive ones but in the end I went bach to the simple block of wood with a wedge holding the iron. Personal preferences I guess.
    That´s why I committed a sacrilege against Saint Stanley and glued a thin piece of ebony veneer to the cast iron body of a no.6. After creating this unholy abomination I´m pretty happy with myself because now that plane glides like a wooden one and gives me every advantage of a cast iron plane.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před 6 měsíci

      Interesting, and good for you.

  • @dpmeyer4867
    @dpmeyer4867 Před rokem

    thanks

  • @CleaveMountaineering
    @CleaveMountaineering Před rokem

    Great overview, I have a good transitional plane, probably about 22", but haven't sharpened it up and tried it yet. Properly tuned I expect it to work about as well as anything.

  • @sfshilo
    @sfshilo Před rokem

    I know that many people say many bad things about transitional planes, but they can be built for very little cost, upgraded with a better blade easily, and give you the benefits of the wood bottom and mechanical frog. They also weight a lot less then the large No 6 and larger metal planes.

  • @simsyonline
    @simsyonline Před rokem

    I have a Stanley transitional, (No 34, which is 30" long)... The blade depth adjuster works in the conventional way, i.e. on a left hand thread.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      Probably one of the later models before they stopped making them altogether

  • @bakerzermatt
    @bakerzermatt Před rokem +1

    Metal planes are great, but they didn't catch on everywhere. In Germany/Switzerland for example, woodworkers either went from wooden planes straight to power tools, or never stopped using wooden planes.
    (though these days, stamped metal 'Rali' planes are also popular. They work, but the disposable blade shows the general decline in skill for sharpening tools.)

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      Interesting, and sadly true. But we can do better!

  • @user-io9ln1or7c
    @user-io9ln1or7c Před 4 měsíci +1

    🎉❤

  • @davidclark9086
    @davidclark9086 Před rokem +1

    I have one of these and love it. My only problem is I don't get to use it as much as I would like.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      You're still one of the lucky ones!

  • @roman_le
    @roman_le Před rokem +3

    The frog is actually is way too high above the sole. Doesn't this plane have a chattering issue?

    • @alangknowles
      @alangknowles Před rokem

      I wondered about that. There is little support for the thin iron for two or three above the point of cutting. Unlike the thicker blade of a wooden plane that is fully supported right down to the bottom.

    • @corwind3888
      @corwind3888 Před rokem

      That's what I was thinking too as Graham showed how the frog sat on the body of the plane.

    • @nikolausreinke9966
      @nikolausreinke9966 Před rokem

      Yeah, exactly my first thought. Why didn’t they elongate the frog deeper? I think this issue even shows when Graham is planing. Not very smooth.

    • @darkounet3478
      @darkounet3478 Před rokem +3

      No it's not , you just have to keep the frog flush with the wooden bed. If you want to move the frog forward then you have to shim the bed to provide support for the blade. It's ok since you rarely adjust the mouth of a plane

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem +8

      Firstly I have to admit that I use the transitional mainly on softwoods; secondly the iron assembly is stouter that than the irons used in regular Stanley bench planes, and thirdly I have to admit that i primarily use my Norris and Mathiesons. I'm just trying to cover what's out there for people who might not have had the opportunity to try everything.

  • @aaronrosenthal9227
    @aaronrosenthal9227 Před rokem

    My series 4 Bailey No 8 metal plane has no adjustment lever (plane hammer tapping to adjust) AND the reverse screw. I just get used to it.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      It's amazing how many varieties there are.

  • @ralphpezda6523
    @ralphpezda6523 Před rokem

    Mr. Blackburn: If you have them, could you do a video on the Stanley 55 and 72? Thank you.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      The 55 (and the 45, and the 46) would all take multiple episodes to cover, but maybe a short overview might be possible. I'll put the on the list.

    • @ralphpezda6523
      @ralphpezda6523 Před rokem

      @@gjbmunc Mr. Blackburn: 1. I am not going anywhere. 2. That's why we need you to explain them to us. Have a good evening.

  • @Alejandro1957
    @Alejandro1957 Před rokem

    Hi Graham. I have some pictures i collected about planes i don't recognize. Is there a way to deliver them to you?

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      You can email them as tiffs or jpegs to gbmunc@gmail.com

  • @saurios
    @saurios Před 9 měsíci

    Me gustaría tener una de esas garlopas.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před 9 měsíci

      Pues sigue buscando!

  • @jimcarter4929
    @jimcarter4929 Před rokem

    Later Stanley transitional planes had conventional depth adjustment. My 26 is like my steel planes.

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem

      Yes, this is true.

    • @alholston-smith7631
      @alholston-smith7631 Před rokem

      So is my Stanley no 38 transitional plane. I put a newer Stanley blade in it and it works fine. The chip breaker is different in that the slot for the blade adjuster is lower than newer Stanley iron planes. I would however, like to find an original bi-metal blade.
      Cheers

  • @lincolndickerson1293
    @lincolndickerson1293 Před rokem

    I am curious about lubricating the bottom of a plane. I only have steel planes now and waxing or oiling the bottom of the plane regularly makes a big differerence. Is it the same with wooden ans transistional planes? Also what kind of wood is typically used for planes? Some woods like Rosewood have oils in them does that factor in?

    • @dwainlambrigger3769
      @dwainlambrigger3769 Před rokem

      Lincoln, that is one of the bid advantages in wooden planes, there is no need to lubricate the sole. As a matter of fact, using a wooden plane produces a "burnished" affect to the wood, something that can't be copied by a metal plane. Often Beech was used for most transitionals, but now a days, most straight grained hard woods work; maple, bocote, osage orange, several would do just fine. Just make sure the lumber you are using is quarter sawn piece for minimal movement.

    • @darkounet3478
      @darkounet3478 Před rokem +2

      It does make a difference for wooden planes, though way less than when using steel plane. I wax every now and then because low friction means less fatigue

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem +1

      You're both right; it depends on the wood of the sole and the species of the workpiece.

  • @thierrylegrain8463
    @thierrylegrain8463 Před 4 měsíci

    Bonjour Monsieur Graham, j'aime beaucoup vos vidéos, et vos explications. Je les regarde avec les sous titres en français He oui I Am French Sory. Vos livres ont l'air très intéressants
    mais existent ils en français ?. J'ai appris beaucoup de choses sur les rabots, et comme vous je parcours les brocantes et vides greniers afin de trouver de beaux rabots. J'ai aussi posté une petite vidéo de mes restaurations de mobilier : mes restaurations 1....Mon nom Thierry Legrain Je vous salue bien cordialement Monsieur et bravo pour votre chaine si instructives....salutations de France...Thierry

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před 3 měsíci

      suis navré qu'il n'existent pas des traductions.....

  • @hansjoinery
    @hansjoinery Před rokem

    I do woodworking in a maritime climate, and iron-made planes are gradually replacing wooden ones.👍

    • @gjbmunc
      @gjbmunc  Před rokem +1

      ...so long as they don't get rusty too quickly!

  • @grampytinman3481
    @grampytinman3481 Před rokem

    Nice transitional plane.
    Union?