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25:15 - Cowan cannot start with the marlies. He would have go back to the Knights. He is underage. Same situation as Shane Wright. So the situation is more complicated. Do you let him rot in juniors and get bored, but let his body develop, or do you put him in the NHL and risk going too early? It's not an easy thing to decide. You probably have to start him in the NHL to get a proper look. If the first 10 games look really good, you probably have to keep him in for the full 82 due his low cap hit.
Next year, we're going to be paying Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares and Reilly $54.153 million dollars. If we're paying a group of 5 players this kind of money relative to the rest of the team they should be literal GAME BREAKERS in the PLAYOFFS and we've had an 8 year sample size to see that they aren't. Our powerplay was garbage, we can't seem score more than 3 goals and our depth scoring was non-existent. We've already had enough time with this experiment, how much more proof do you need to see that it doesn't count when the playoffs come around? I understand you're scared of what might happen if we trade Marner but I don't think you've considered that this might actually be a better team in the playoffs without him.
"Our core 4 are constantly underperforming in the playoffs" "We can't get rid of Marner" Make it make sense. The resaon you move Mitch over John is cuz there is no way John waives his no trade clause and your core 4 clearly aren't good enough, so you have to move one of them
@@GFPpodcast Well since you insist: "great 100 point and 200 foot player" Who stood and watched as Pastrnak blew by him. Matthews is better defensively than Marner. Also he's never had a 100 point season "You don't like him bc he's small" No, it's because he's soft and afraid to get hit. Brad Marchand is small and he still plays playoff style hockey, being undersized is not an excuse. "You're always looking for skilled guys to replace him" No we're not, we have enough skilled guys already. "They all played badly" Nobody is disagreeing with that. The reason Marner gets singled out is bc he's the easiest to move. Nobody is taking Tavares and Matthews and Willy are locked up. "You won't win the Marner trade on the ice" Again, nobody is arguing against that. What you're "winning" is cap space.
@@strahinjagoveven if you get cap space doesn’t mean you use it correctly. Leafs could easily hand Pesce 7 mill and be a massive mistake. I rather have the safe 100 point player in Marner.
Dude these guys are fuckin morons and everything I hate about my own fan base lmao. The fact they think Mitch marner still should be here just shows how bias and dumb they really are lol. HE IS A HORRIBLE PLAYOFF PERFORMER!!! HE DOES FUCK ALL IN THE PLAYOFFS AND MAKES 11 million a year!!! Who cares how many points he gets in the regular season!!!! These two idiots are so hard to listen to lmfao.
@@strahinjagovbroke it down perfectly lol. Exactly….who gives a fuck how skilled he is when in the playoffs IT GOES AWAY AND HE FUCKKNG SUCKS. I am so sick of marner and the core 4. I have been done with them for 3 years now. THEY CANT WIN….PERIOD
The problem this year with the Hart nominees (and probably the Ted Lindsay too) is there is only 3 finalists. One of the four names mentioned have to be left out. I'm betting the gap between 3rd and 4th for both awards is miniscule.
There is NO FUCKING way Marner is worth 12M per year NEVER SHOWS UP IN THE PLAYOPFFS ...ONLY regular season Player nothing more ...Marner is over paid already
Tavares (JT) captain Canada 🇨🇦 welcome to San Jose 🦈 😅 they can pay him more, I agree he CANNOT make as much in Toronto, but on a rebuilding team… these vets can make more to mentor youngsters! Heck bring Stammer too.. pay them both $7-8mil x 3 years until Celebrini/Smith takeover the cap table 🧢 😊 ❤️ lots of passion in this episode boys!! 🙏 pls create a Bobby Orr 🏆 award!!!
Very courageous of you guys to not jump on the Dump Marner bandwagon. I am impressed with your thoughtful insights. Great job on the podcast! Bravo, guys.
Berube’s career will be tarnished if he comes to town. He would be better in New Jersey. Leafs are in such a HOLE and Pelley keeping Shanahan says it all!.
Cowan 🐮 🤠 🐎 is a boss, they need to adjust the CHL rules so these guys can marinate in the AHL, that’s why the NCAA division 1 is taking off for 19-21 yr olds
Nearly unsubbed with your Mitch Marner take. Dude is so soft. How many pillows do you want on your bed? Can't play in Ahl if you're under 20. Cowen can't play for the Marlies. It's OHL or NHL
NEVER resign JT he is FUCKING HISTORY ...TOTALLY SLOW and it will continue to get worse as he gets older ...IF Treliving Resigns him the MOST 1-1.5 M 1 year thats it
Mathhews Marner and Tavares r bums. They don’t do nothing in the playoffs. These are regular season players who only put stats in regular season instead of playoffs. Nylander is the only player who shows up. And I am a leafs fan 😊
You guys are insane, literally - with your awful, god-awful, pitifully awful Marner take. Starting to sound like you are both part of the problem. Marner gone, please. I'll take a #1 goalie like Saros and a player like Arvidsson as a dirt cheap Marner replacement. Have both of you not learned anything at all? For f sake..
And what makes you think this would improve the team? Saros is a UFA after next season. He’s an undersized goaltender coming off a .906 SV% this season. Are you comfortable giving him a big contract? And Viktor Arvidsson has 37 points in 73 career playoff games. In what universe is this adding more value to the team?
@@GFPpodcast bc trading Marner isn't about trying to get equal talent back, that's just not going to happen (as you guys correctly pointed out). It's about getting cap space. Which according to you guys is apparently a bad thing lol.
Why would you give Mathews the captaincy when he consistently plays The Invisible man in the playoffs? Nylander shows up and apparently doesn’t mind shitting on players when they deserve it. Go Habs Go!!
Lol, hard on Marner because he's easy to bully? You're so far from it! Do you think Leafs fans are potatoes or something. It's the way he played. You guys are getting putrid with your takes. Maybe just retire
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Welp, if you want more of the Matthews and Marner era, you definitely named your podcast correctly.
These guys are both fuckin morons lol. I literally take nothing they say seriously
Love the show but I'm sorry, keeping Marner is legitimately insane.
25:15 - Cowan cannot start with the marlies. He would have go back to the Knights. He is underage. Same situation as Shane Wright.
So the situation is more complicated. Do you let him rot in juniors and get bored, but let his body develop, or do you put him in the NHL and risk going too early? It's not an easy thing to decide. You probably have to start him in the NHL to get a proper look. If the first 10 games look really good, you probably have to keep him in for the full 82 due his low cap hit.
I can’t stand these CHLAHL rules. They need a better path for developing players out of Canada!!!
Next year, we're going to be paying Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares and Reilly $54.153 million dollars. If we're paying a group of 5 players this kind of money relative to the rest of the team they should be literal GAME BREAKERS in the PLAYOFFS and we've had an 8 year sample size to see that they aren't. Our powerplay was garbage, we can't seem score more than 3 goals and our depth scoring was non-existent. We've already had enough time with this experiment, how much more proof do you need to see that it doesn't count when the playoffs come around?
I understand you're scared of what might happen if we trade Marner but I don't think you've considered that this might actually be a better team in the playoffs without him.
No offense, but it feels like no matter who comes in you will not be happy. I'm just saying.
Who should the Leafs hire as their next head coach? 🤔
Paul Marner
Rod the Bod
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#1 Rod Brind'Amour
#2 Craig Berube
#3 Gerard Gallant
Cooper ,brindamour, Berube, Mccelenen
"Our core 4 are constantly underperforming in the playoffs"
"We can't get rid of Marner"
Make it make sense. The resaon you move Mitch over John is cuz there is no way John waives his no trade clause and your core 4 clearly aren't good enough, so you have to move one of them
"It'd be pretty crazy to trade Mitch Marner." I had to turn it off there. I love your podcast but I'm not listening to foolishness.
Explain why you disagree then. 🤷🏻♂️
@@GFPpodcast
Well since you insist:
"great 100 point and 200 foot player"
Who stood and watched as Pastrnak blew by him. Matthews is better defensively than Marner. Also he's never had a 100 point season
"You don't like him bc he's small"
No, it's because he's soft and afraid to get hit. Brad Marchand is small and he still plays playoff style hockey, being undersized is not an excuse.
"You're always looking for skilled guys to replace him"
No we're not, we have enough skilled guys already.
"They all played badly"
Nobody is disagreeing with that. The reason Marner gets singled out is bc he's the easiest to move. Nobody is taking Tavares and Matthews and Willy are locked up.
"You won't win the Marner trade on the ice"
Again, nobody is arguing against that. What you're "winning" is cap space.
@@strahinjagoveven if you get cap space doesn’t mean you use it correctly. Leafs could easily hand Pesce 7 mill and be a massive mistake. I rather have the safe 100 point player in Marner.
Dude these guys are fuckin morons and everything I hate about my own fan base lmao. The fact they think Mitch marner still should be here just shows how bias and dumb they really are lol. HE IS A HORRIBLE PLAYOFF PERFORMER!!! HE DOES FUCK ALL IN THE PLAYOFFS AND MAKES 11 million a year!!! Who cares how many points he gets in the regular season!!!! These two idiots are so hard to listen to lmfao.
@@strahinjagovbroke it down perfectly lol. Exactly….who gives a fuck how skilled he is when in the playoffs IT GOES AWAY AND HE FUCKKNG SUCKS. I am so sick of marner and the core 4. I have been done with them for 3 years now. THEY CANT WIN….PERIOD
I love your podcast name, it's so true
Great Job!
The problem this year with the Hart nominees (and probably the Ted Lindsay too) is there is only 3 finalists. One of the four names mentioned have to be left out. I'm betting the gap between 3rd and 4th for both awards is miniscule.
There is NO FUCKING way Marner is worth 12M per year NEVER SHOWS UP IN THE PLAYOPFFS ...ONLY regular season Player nothing more ...Marner is over paid already
Reason Marner gets the BLAME he never shows up in the Playoffs a 6 years old kid would know that ...TRADE Marner 12M cap space
If I’m the Leafs, I’d keep Mitch Marner. However, where I’d draw the line in the sand is if he wants an AAV higher than William Nylander.
Either they trade marner this season or he's a life time leaf. I would keep marner but for the right price. If he wants more then pasta he's crazy
Tavares (JT) captain Canada 🇨🇦 welcome to San Jose 🦈 😅 they can pay him more, I agree he CANNOT make as much in Toronto, but on a rebuilding team… these vets can make more to mentor youngsters! Heck bring Stammer too.. pay them both $7-8mil x 3 years until Celebrini/Smith takeover the cap table 🧢 😊 ❤️ lots of passion in this episode boys!! 🙏 pls create a Bobby Orr 🏆 award!!!
So John doesn’t move you want to keep Marner and ran it back again
Very courageous of you guys to not jump on the Dump Marner bandwagon.
I am impressed with your thoughtful insights.
Great job on the podcast! Bravo, guys.
Berube’s career will be tarnished if he comes to town.
He would be better in New Jersey. Leafs are in such a HOLE and Pelley keeping Shanahan says it all!.
Think about this Bruno. You said you’re done getting excited. But why ? Because you’re afraid to be let down again. That’s no way to live sir ! ;)
Cowan 🐮 🤠 🐎 is a boss, they need to adjust the CHL rules so these guys can marinate in the AHL, that’s why the NCAA division 1 is taking off for 19-21 yr olds
Nearly unsubbed with your Mitch Marner take. Dude is so soft. How many pillows do you want on your bed?
Can't play in Ahl if you're under 20. Cowen can't play for the Marlies. It's OHL or NHL
LEAFS will move FORWARD if they get rid of Tavares and Marner that is the only way the LEAFS will move forward
The Panthers have no fans.
And yet...the Florida Panthers franchise is superior to Toronto's in every aspect!
..you really think these clowns are coachable..a good coach will recognize what the Leafs are and move on to a contender..
NEVER resign JT he is FUCKING HISTORY ...TOTALLY SLOW and it will continue to get worse as he gets older ...IF Treliving Resigns him the MOST 1-1.5 M 1 year thats it
Mathhews Marner and Tavares r bums. They don’t do nothing in the playoffs. These are regular season players who only put stats in regular season instead of playoffs. Nylander is the only player who shows up. And I am a leafs fan 😊
You guys are insane, literally - with your awful, god-awful, pitifully awful Marner take. Starting to sound like you are both part of the problem. Marner gone, please. I'll take a #1 goalie like Saros and a player like Arvidsson as a dirt cheap Marner replacement. Have both of you not learned anything at all? For f sake..
And what makes you think this would improve the team? Saros is a UFA after next season. He’s an undersized goaltender coming off a .906 SV% this season. Are you comfortable giving him a big contract? And Viktor Arvidsson has 37 points in 73 career playoff games. In what universe is this adding more value to the team?
@@GFPpodcast bc trading Marner isn't about trying to get equal talent back, that's just not going to happen (as you guys correctly pointed out). It's about getting cap space. Which according to you guys is apparently a bad thing lol.
Not a fan.
Why would you give Mathews the captaincy when he consistently plays The Invisible man in the playoffs?
Nylander shows up and apparently doesn’t mind shitting on players when they deserve it. Go Habs Go!!
Lol, hard on Marner because he's easy to bully? You're so far from it! Do you think Leafs fans are potatoes or something. It's the way he played. You guys are getting putrid with your takes. Maybe just retire
Seriously I usually like these guys but they're way off the mark on the Marner take lol