The Stormlight Archive | Bondsmiths Are Overpowered (Part 1)

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
  • So a while ago I made a video on the channel listing the most powerful Knights Radiant orders from the Stormlight Archive in order from weakest to strongest. At the time I was trying to make a list based on what we currently know of their power and who would win in a straight-up fight. And I’m pretty happy with the list based on those parameters. But when considering the actual full potential of any given Knights Radiant order, that list would have to be greatly altered.
    Well this video began as an addendum to that video where I discuss the most powerful orders based on their pure potential. However shortly after I began thinking about the true potential of the different orders, something really stood out. The Bondsmiths were just too overpowered. All of the orders have some incredible potential, but the potential of the Bondsmiths put them far beyond any other Knights Radiant order in terms of power. So because of that I decided to change the focus of this video to really dig down and understand the true power and potential of the Bondsmiths.
    Now don’t get me wrong, Kaladin could probably take Dalinar in a fight as things stand right now. However, that’s only because Dalinar is still very untrained in his abilities. If Dalinar were to completely master his Bondsmith capabilities, I fully believe that it would take a Shard or another Bondsmith to bring him down. I mean, I always say that AonDor is the most powerful Cosmere magic system, and as a system overall it still is, but a Bondsmith like Ishar could easily defeat any Elantrian hands down without even breaking a sweat.
    But before we get into the nitty gritty details of how this all works, we need to first understand what makes a Bondsmith so powerful and how that power would be utilized...
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Komentáře • 56

  • @Bobbalou
    @Bobbalou Před 2 lety +77

    I'm just listening to this thinking about how we are discussing the science of magic in a fake world with surprisingly realistic properties that makes complete sense. This just amazes me

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety +19

      The combined power of Sanderson's writing and a community of absolute nerds with Internet access 😂

    • @armandrenaudngaamounana2311
      @armandrenaudngaamounana2311 Před 2 lety +2

      let's make a clap for Sir Sanderson.

    • @starmorpheus
      @starmorpheus Před 2 lety +1

      @@armandrenaudngaamounana2311 let's make it clap for Sanderson 😏

  • @cesarkarim3352
    @cesarkarim3352 Před 2 lety +34

    This is the reason why ishar is so scary, he’s too powerful, he defeats 3 or 4 windrunners of the 3th ideal as if they were nothing

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety +4

      Pretty much

    • @GenZVall
      @GenZVall Před rokem +5

      AND he's only "average" in terms of combat ability among the Heralds. Absolutely insane, both this and them lmao

  • @joshhoehne8281
    @joshhoehne8281 Před 2 lety +11

    Thank goodness that there can only be three Bondsmiths, plus the Honorblade path, at a time. And it’s also good that, with the exception of Ishar, that they themselves are “bound”. I keep thinking of the line about a “Bondsmith unbound”!

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah it would be a disaster if they had as many members as other orders

    • @kashdees9116
      @kashdees9116 Před 2 lety +4

      I think there will be at least 3 more bondsmiths potentially with Ba-Ado-Mishram and Sja-anat being the spren for them because the Stormfather is with stormlight the Nightwatcher is with lifelight and the Sibling is with towerlight the hybrid light of stormlight and lifelight. So it would make sense if voidlight had a bondsmith and the other hybrid lights like warlight the hybrid of stormlight and voidlight and then another bondsmith for the whatever hybrid light is for voidlight and lifelight and potentially a hybrid of all 3 lights. But still would be way less than the other orders lol

  • @givex2120
    @givex2120 Před 2 lety +6

    Great video! Was wondering about Bondsmiths and their powers recently, and they seriously are just crazy op. Just one thing, Fortune is not the only way to access foresight. All foresight is a result of the Spiritual Realm and Fortune is just one of the ways to access it as far as we know. Personally, I'd probably explain Fortune as the ability to see (through the Spiritual Realm) and/or manipulate probability (related to you, not in general) in some way. Anyways definitely looking forward to the second part ;)

  • @l_p2980
    @l_p2980 Před 2 lety +4

    I loooooove your content! It’s so informative and I enjoy the way you relay information. Road to 10K

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety +1

      Lol I'm glad you enjoy the content 🙂

  • @Fallout3131
    @Fallout3131 Před 2 lety +1

    This shall be a crucial motivator in finding the leader of my armies.

  • @dphunk87
    @dphunk87 Před 2 lety +2

    This is some 400 level Cosmere/Stormlight right here..thank you my good scholar.

  • @noelhann5262
    @noelhann5262 Před 2 lety +6

    I wonder who would win in a fight between Kaladin and Dalinar before either of them were knights radiant and without shards. The Blackthorn vs the spearman who killed a shardbearer.

    • @DreadPyriteBob
      @DreadPyriteBob Před rokem +2

      I’d give Dalinar the edge with the “age and cunning” category, though it would be VERY close

    • @rohit_7777
      @rohit_7777 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I'll go with Kaladin. The spears has a better range and Kaladin seems more like a natural genius with his weapon than anyone else in the series.
      Dalinar had thrill, but Kaladin also has something similar to (feeding your emotions to the flame from the wheel of time). Kal has a different kind of immersion which makes him cool headed in the thick of a fight. And he can somehow anticipate opponents attacks which doesn't seem to be related to surge binding.

  • @k-majik
    @k-majik Před 2 lety +3

    This was a great video, I am looking forward to seeing the Bondsmith unchained, sparks are going to fly. I'm a bit confused about how your definition of Fortune would work in Feruchemy, however - how would you store or tap your 'timeline' do you reckon?

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety +1

      Think about how Renarin's power works. He taps into Fortune to see potential futures. And with Atium you tap into Fortune to see potential futures as well. So doing it with Feruchemy would likely be something like this. The more you store and then tap, the further or more clearly you can see ahead. How it would work exactly is up to Brandon, but that's my theory.
      I don't believe that fortune = luck in the Cosmere like some people think. Fortune is your potential timeline. The more you tap into it, the more you'll see of the future (and likely the more you'll see the most likely timeline over the less likely ones).

    • @k-majik
      @k-majik Před 2 lety

      @@RavensRants I really like that theory, that does sound better than luck more broadly. What do you think the effect would be when you're storing Fortune, what would you lose?

  • @jefffrederick258
    @jefffrederick258 Před 12 dny

    The series does hint that bonding is a more powerful form / magic system.

  • @adrianmontoya1834
    @adrianmontoya1834 Před 2 lety +2

    Great videos, keep it up!! I've read Mistborn era 1 & 2, Elantris, Warbreaker, Arcanium Unbounded, and Stormlight. I still have to do White Sands and Skyward but I'm on my way!!!

  • @melvinklark4088
    @melvinklark4088 Před 2 lety +6

    What would an bondsmith do agianst an identity compounder?

  • @RunningOnAutopilot
    @RunningOnAutopilot Před rokem +1

    This is pretty realistic cause IRL some things are just better
    EX: MMA beats everything else except in street fights no rules in which Krava Maga wins (unless you have a weapon the best one being gun)

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong Před rokem

  • @ethanbrinkman3401
    @ethanbrinkman3401 Před 2 lety +4

    That might be why there are only three bondsmiths at a time

    • @cesarkarim3352
      @cesarkarim3352 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly, and now there are no longer the restrictions that Honor placed on bondsmiths

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety +2

      I have a theory that Unmade could make Bondsmiths potentially

    • @givex2120
      @givex2120 Před 2 lety

      @@RavensRants Yes! I agree with you on that one. They were as essential to Roshar pre unmaking (and still are) as the current Bondsmith Spren and it makes sense that Odium would like to see them on their side (also RoW kinda makes this theory even more possible I guess)

  • @joshuacredeur5592
    @joshuacredeur5592 Před rokem

    To be fair your argument that the three spiritual aspects hinges on connection can be made for identity and fortune as well. For instance If identity were key you could then say it's who you are at your core that determines your connections and fortune by way of you simply being you. If fortune were the main building block you could simply say your identity and connections are all a part of your over all fortune. I say all of that to propose that they are the three aspects because they balance each other, more of a wheel then a pyramid in this veiw.

  • @scibanana3542
    @scibanana3542 Před rokem +1

    Off topic, but I'd just like to point out that the Lord Ruler (or any other full Feruchemist and mistborn) would be _stupidly_ overpowered. And I mean aside from immortality and near-invincibility. Let me put it this way:
    So you know how compounding works, right? Person can both burn a metal and draw upon a metalmind of the same material. Thus allows them to use allomancy as a supplement to feruchemy. For example, Miles Hundredlives could burn gold and get the same effect as drawing from a gold metalmind. In other words, his metalminds would be perpetually full so long as he held gold. Here's the thing: nicrosil metalminds store Investiture. So if you were to compound nicrosil, you'd have effectively unlimited Investiture... We know that raw Investiture can be used as a supplement for metals in allomancy; Vin lent her power as Preservation directly to Elend at the Battle of Hasthin. So while compounding nicrosil on it's own would be effectively useless, combine it with other allomantic powers... Or say, a Nahel bond (we know this is possible, because Hoid)...

  • @connoraugustine2127
    @connoraugustine2127 Před 2 lety +1

    Ok, so we know that a bomdsmith can steal part of someone's spirit web, but I wonder if they could also copy a spiritual aspect as well. Like ferruchemical powers for instance.

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety +2

      I don't think they can steal something like Feruchemy. Stealing a bind with a Spren is probably far easier than stealing that part of someone's identity. You'd have better luck changing your own spiritweb to make you a Feruchemist. Or just use Hemalurgy 😂

    • @connoraugustine2127
      @connoraugustine2127 Před 2 lety

      @@RavensRants imagine though, hemalurgy without giving shards the ability to influence you.

  • @myexistenceoffendsmany...329

    Good videos. I'll subscribe.

  • @69Schalk
    @69Schalk Před 2 lety +1

    Yes I will subscribe, are you in gauteng we could organise a Sanderfest ^.^

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety

      Lol a South African Sanderfest would be awesome, but unfortunately I'm in Cape Town. So quite far from Gauteng 😅

  • @bendecius4976
    @bendecius4976 Před rokem

    Bondsmiths if I understand correctly are the strongest casters in all of the cosmere, the power of a bondsmith is the ability to create realities.

  • @armandrenaudngaamounana2311

    Bondsmiths are litteral GODS, even moreso now that Honor is dead.

  • @Matthew-oe8tb
    @Matthew-oe8tb Před 2 lety

    Naw they arnt, Old dalinar is just on his way to becoming the new honor, thats my prediction. Because it never says what specifically happened to honors power which cant be destroyed...it lives on.

  • @1926PlovdivCity
    @1926PlovdivCity Před 2 lety +2

    Spoiler!!!!!!!!!!
    I love how at the end Dalinar and his crew got destroyd from a True bondsmith. Btw i still dont get what really happend to Odium.... soooo make a video mb?

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety

      You mean what happened to Odium at the end of RoW?

    • @1926PlovdivCity
      @1926PlovdivCity Před 2 lety +1

      @@RavensRants yes at the end he died and the next Odium was..... OMG what was hes name Tera.... help me with the rest of the name. So he died cuz Seth stabd him with the sword but the he killd Odium 😵 what?!?!?!?!?!

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety

      Ah I see where you got confused. So Taravangian had Nightblood when Szeth was there. Odium was busy pulling Taravangian into a vision where they could communicate. But Odium is more physically in that vision than Taravangian was and thus could be hurt.
      Now Nightblood destroyed Rayse, the human vessel that held the Shard of Odium (Mistborn spoiler: Sazed, for example, is the Vessel of the Shard of Harmony). So without the Vessel, the power of the Shard was just floating around looking for a host since it can't do anything without a Vessel. It called out to Taravangian who took it and became the new Vessel of the Shard of Odium.
      Therefore Taravangian is now Odium.
      Make sense?

    • @1926PlovdivCity
      @1926PlovdivCity Před 2 lety +1

      @@RavensRants thanks for that but i get that how he got the sword is the problem form me i dont get it did the sword kill Odium to cuz he is "evil" or how did that happen. Btw this not what we call this sword us Roshar 😏😏😏😏😏

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety

      Nightblood feeds on Investiture. So when Odium was stabbed it ate all the Investiture in the body of the Vessel first, but the Shard itself was too big and powerful to be consumed. So Nightblood got "full" before it could affect the Shard, but after it already killed the Vessel.

  • @ryanratchford2530
    @ryanratchford2530 Před 2 lety +3

    I find the magic of bond smiths (& surge binding in general) far less interesting than allomancy or awakening because it’s just so undefined & soft (which is just not as fun to think about-feels like they can just do whatever Brandon needs them to do)

    • @RavensRants
      @RavensRants  Před 2 lety +5

      I get you, but as of RoW, it seems Brandon is beginning to expand on it more. I think that Surgebinding will one day be just as hard as Allomancy, but it will take us a couple of books to get to that level of understanding. And it makes sense to not reveal how the magic works entirely within the first half of a series. It leaves nothing to be discovered by readers for the rest of the books. So he's likely slowly revealing everything. It will just take some time, but one day we'll understand Surgebinding like we do Allomancy