Ranking all PokeRogue Starters Passive Abilities
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
2:07 Generation 1
1:02:19 Generation 2
1:25:19 Generation 3
1:44:42 Generation 4
1:53:45 Generation 5
2:18:22 Generation 6
2:27:28 Generation 7
2:39:27 Generation 8
2:49:46 Generation 9
3:01:49 Corrections
3:07:49 Outro - Hry
Getting this video out was a pain, but thank you for making it worth the while! Like I said, lots of abilities are subject to change but I hope I was able to teach you something new! Thanks for watching ♥
You made a slight error with the zigzagoon thing. It’s by far the best thing in the game in terms of picking up items due to its good stats, good use of covet and other moves, along with both pickpocket and pickup. It is near guaranteed to take atleast one item and can help out other pokemon greatly. It can pick up silk scarfs and boost fake out mienshao. I got a mienshao and it killed the rival’s boss rayquaza in 3 fake outs. It is unbeatable in terms of free items and can do a surprising amount of damage. People think it’s bad just because starters and other stuff have higher stats but linoone has a very low starter cost and a lot of power. Don’t disrespect my boy linoone like that.
Question: do wild pokemon you catch for which you have unlocked their passive have the passive ability, or do they only have the passive if you start out with them?
@VictiniAnthony Only the Pokémon you start with. Boss Pokemon you fight have their passives, but if you catch them you do not get to keep them.
Bro scorbunny pasive ability is victory star
I’m confused my game says zacians passive ability is unnerve
At first when I saw you playing this game like nonstop for about a week, I was thinking "wow, bro is sweating the game". But now after I tried it, I'm addicted. Thank you for introducing this game to me. I was running out of good rom hacks to play (I've replayed Radical Red so many times).
This game is a drug, swear to god.
Yeah my girlfriend loves and hates how much I’ve been playing this
Like Emerald Rogue, you can easily play this for HUNDREDS of hours....
Yeah my dedication to this game has ruined more of my relationships already than my drinking problem
Elite Redux is getting an update soon
Giving Speed Boost to a Calm Minding Suicune is just giving it Quiver Dance as an egg move with extra steps. That sounds ridiculously good.
worth mentioning wind rider is a blizzard immunity, which can be important if you are in a snow area where they are spamming it. icy wind is also a useful immunity for doubles
didnt know that!
It's also a hurricane immunity, Kilowattrels hate him
@@haddy106 mega rayquaza hates it even more
@@MEISMUDKIPSdebatable since dragon ascent exists
rayquaza's passive was changed to unnerve, which in my opinion is solely for the purpose to screw with the players in classic
They also changed chien pao to intrepid sword meaning once its ability is implemented it’s gonna one shot everything
they changed squirtles to sturdy, and charmanders to sheer force
@@BozoMonkey-ij3om it kinda baffles me why they would change intimidate (one of, if not, the best ability) to sheer force when the latter isn't even implemented
charmanders is beast boost
@shinyhuntaa it was changed again to beast boost. Its been changed a few times. Look at the dates comments are made. Changes happen all the time.
Contrary Overheat Magmortar sounds really scary lol
And it gets Fleur Cannon as an egg move
@@pleasebevivid it gets WHAT?
@@catolty you heard me LMAO
And armour canon
heatmor gets contrary overheat v create with whitesmoke soooo
Wait, there's already a PokeRogue wiki for each of the Dynamax/G-Max Pokémon's BST already? and No Guard is finally implemented?? this has been a very informative video, thank you so much Callum!
That's a pretty useful guide, though I must say, the meta shifts *completely* in endless past 2.3k or so, basically - everything 1 shots you, and damaging moves become obsolete, the only way to damage enemies back is by doing some sneaky tactics like low speed metal burst or stored power. Also enemies become pretty much immune to status and they spam so many berries that Unnerve and Sturdy become OP.
It'll be interesting to see you cover lategame endless meta.
What team do you run for 2k+ endless ?
ugh that doesn't even sound fun
also healing items are so expensive that you cant even buy them anymore. and using masterballs to go past encounters is another thing i see people do
Well good thing they toned down the stack limit of berries.
A good ability for endless is prankster. I started the run with prankster klefki and the ability to splice moves like soak onto it, is amazing. It cuts down waiting time for killing eternatus and salt cure, helps with killing bosses/getting rid of stab damage.
Magician klefki is very funny to use. At some point, your team will steal so many berries and lucky eggs that your pokemon become swole. Also, as it's a steel fairy type, it completely walls eternatus in endless mode and also stage 1 eternatus in classic. The only downside is that it's a hidden ability and so is pretty hard to get.
I had to reset a late battle against the rival so many times due to her Magician Meowscrada, I really want to get a mon with it.
eternatus has flamethrower
@@azurephoenix8132 not in endless mode
@@azurephoenix8132 stage 1 eternatus doesnt in classic
@@Mercury-oy1zd it does every 1k waves
Weedle and caterpie are both apparently some of the best options for endless
i believe it
Yeah butterfree has stun spore and sleep powder with quiver dance and if you get lucky, even a struggle bug tm
Adapt tech 1 cost + early evo does that to you.
@@localidiot2777also a gmax/mega, so they dont fall off too hard
Can confirm, mega beedrill is absolutely ridiculous in endless, can't speak for caterpie since i haven't done a run with it yet.
For anyone whom cares, Ledyba/Ledian's passive has been changed to Prankster, and has the egg move Spore, I dont need to tell you how absurd that is
Regigigas has some serious potential since it gets (Skill Swap) if you can get it from an egg to get rid of slow start.
listening while grinding out the shiny weekend and eating some cherry tomatoes, great analysis and very helpful for giving a vague idea of every mons passive, thanks for this cal
Wait, what is shiny weekend ?
@@yougow1000the shiny rate goes up 3x
The fact that they gave Gumshoos so much attack makes him a viable normal type option now. I love how many pokemon they improved.
man you make me want to start playing pokerogue WAYY more often. i still have a lot of stuff to learn lol
giving tinkaton huge power is fucking nuts lmao
I'm just watching this now, and hearing "hail isnt a thing anymore" not long after I face a pokemon in this game use metronome and call hail, which actually spawned hail, making my pokemon take damage over time is WILD
Nice list :) This should give people plenty of inspiration for their runs!
Rotom gets Hadron Engine as a passive now, which sure is a choice
Halfway through the video pretty good so far the videos well done and some of the passives are pretty good. Only one minor nitpick because it’s on of my favourite Pokémon why are they trying to make mawile and tinkaton so similar, I know they’re already similar but they could’ve made mawiles passive something to help when you haven’t found the mega stone yet like strong jaw or something. Rants over I honestly really like your content cal and pokerogue can be pretty fun, addictive and frustrating so I just wanted to say thank you cal for great content and introducing me to a lot of fangames😊
Hydration on kyogre is actually way better than leaf guard on groudon because with hydration kyogre can use rest to heal to full, then wake up at the end of the turn. Meanwhile groudon's leaf guard prevents rest from being used at all. I think being able to freely rest to full brings kyogre out of situational and into hilariously over powered, especially with how much you were valuing regenerator and other longevity improving abilities like triage.
ty for all the effort youre putting in for this game and helping the plebs like me!
I went from “he’s addicted!” To “this is great!” To “I’m addicted!”
DAMN this is a crazy video. Thank you cal
I clicked on this video without checking the length. I thought you were going to run through the starter Pokemon.
And then you said "Caterpie" and I was like huh that's weird. Checked the length -- you're a madman
Note : since Pokérogue include also Gen 9, he ranked 1025 mons !
@@dse763not quite since 1025 is for EVERY pokemon but he ranked every pre evolved stage of a pokemon but still it's quite a crazy feat
Bro i said it once, and ill say it again you are the best! This information was so helpful and very well put together, thank you so much for all the work youre putting into this!
And again, youre the reason I am addicted to this game now 🤣
my brother cal imma grab a snack for this
It's good to watch this video because honestly, I haven't checked out other mons yet. Been using Moxie Flamigo to just farm classic with Nacli
What moveset do you give them? (Does this also work for Classic mode?)
Cherry Tomatoes! Great vid! Haven't really watched your vids since XY era. Pokerogue kinda bringing me back
Currently right now Deino’s passive is parental bond which isn’t implemented yet but it is hella OP considering how hard hydreigon hits with its special attacking moves
One thing about the Hoppip line that makes it better than Whimsicott (for early levels) is Prankster Sleep Powder. I find that pretty neat
I feel like stun spore is better than sleep powder. They can't get unparalyzed sleep isn't consistent. Even if they aren't full Para the speed cut is enough to cripple them.
OH damn I just got Ho-oh and I know it gets Magic Guard so the team is well on their way to requiring you to make a new video within 2 months lol
Had to watch this on like 3 different days but was still entertaining
i just started and have verryyyy limited options, but i had a jolly skarmory, and a moxie quaxly, and at the start of a run i got the fusion item and fused them, it gave such a good bulky sweeper with moxie and only had 3 weaknesses, built my team around it and made it to 145, which is my best run and im proud damnit.
Once I saw Drilbur with sand stream I knew I had to start working on grinding it out. Sand stream + sand rush on Excadrill just seems like one of the most powerful things to ever exist
I'm not super knowledgeable on abilities and Stat strengths, I don't play the hard roms. I am Addicted to this game though so this helps me out a Ton particularly because you're explaining Why these are good with each mon, dearly appreciated
Caterpie: Magician is i hit you and steal your item
but Sneasel's hidden ability (pickpocket) is you hit me i steal your item (which is what you said for magician)
pair caterpie with multi-lens and you could maybe? steal more items
as for filter/solid rock combo, i'd imagine it reduces by a quarter from one ability, then reduces that multiplier by the other quarter, so standard supereffective would be 1.125, and double (which is normally 4x) would be 2.25
Combee is actually fairly decent in Classic. Bulky, King's Shield, Defend Order, Roost, Mystical Fire, and Queenly Majesty allow it to really wall random floors once it evolves.
froakie now has adaptability with surging strikes👀
Thanks for the effort
Gohldengo with superluck is strong af, make it rain ignoring its stat drops and doing 1.5× damage, expecially with the way the ai liked to get the bonus affects.
Very OP! I’m running nasty plot, recover, shadow ball and make it rain… add leftovers and shell bell on it…. almost too easy
Just an FYI, Hail is still in Pokerogue. It's hard to come across, but hail storm is a TM in the game still and sometimes a route will naturally have hail.
Didnt have technician, but mega beedril with swords dance went HAM for one of my classic runs
Very appreciate this video
Can confirm opportunist is broken. First unlocked it on flitte when I got the shiny then grinded it for zam. Abra gets all the coverage u could need in its egg moves moonblast tbolt thrower and learns psychic.
i keep forgetting you made this vid before the candy friendship update
Groudon getting earth eater means it has no weaknesses let that sink in for a second (since its weather effect makes water moves do nothing)
Ice is there still. Best offensive typing of the game. But still, primal groudon is so good
@@stefanvandenberg93 primal groundon’s only weaknesses are ground and water
Also ice is no where near the best offensive type
That goes to fairy and i would say it basically just fire that gets even remotely close
@@Sur3sT is it like fairy is best offensive type in this specific game or what I’m confused
@@Cat-nr2jm fairy is the best offensive type while steel is the best defensive type
Now you could say fire is the best offensive type as it has more coverage but fairy is the best type as it has both good defensive and offensive capabilities
Ice is an offensive type and a good one but not the best also for a type to be offensive they need to actually have a wide spread of good moves and ice type just doesn’t have that while fairy has plenty
This is just for all pokemon thats why fairy/steel is the best type combo as there are many immunities they compliment each other and can hit all but steel itself and fire for at least neutral damage
@@Sur3sT I’m being a doubter but aight
I made a reddit post for a tierlist of pokemon and this is the first time I saw something like this. Now for like general use pokemon lol
37:34 So uh, currently in endless, biomes can just randomly change after a battle, which causes you to withdraw your Pokémon, so it's better in Classic than Endless, cause biome switches happen so unbelievably often in Endless
Ngl, I'm not a fan of the Oddish slander. Got a shiny one pretty early and that thing CONSISTENTLY saves runs for me. Giga Drain, Moonblast, Quiver Dance, and Strength Sap for early game actually make Bellossom pretty clutch.
Lingering Aroma definitely isn't great, but both Bellossom and Vileplume can tank some physical hits with proper investment. I'd say it's situational because there's definitely some times where getting rid of an ability can be really good.
I just beat this game for the first time !!!!
Ivys final team ; black mega rayquaza , empoleon, baxcalibur , blood moon ursaluna, killawaterel and stonejourner
Elite four was with red and hard !
My team ; mega venusaur , aegislash , iron juggulus , clefairy , galvantula and seismatoad
Great, now get to round 5850 on endless, the unofficial end to endless due to tokens maxing out. Main pokemon used by the 5 who beat endless are necrozma, gardevoir, medicham, and something else
Filter+Solid Rock Mega Aggron would mean that super effective moved would do 1.125x normal damage. It technically has weaknesses still, but they don’t make much of a difference.
Now that they added the Orbs, Ratatta with Guts, Strong Jaw, and Psychic Fangs/Hyper Fang from egg moves has been an incredible sweeper for me. Im lucky enough to have its red shiny, so for 1 cost I get 3 luck and a solid mon in general. Still very frail, though, so speed investment is required for it to really shine.
Unown is 100% worth investing in for pick up if you want a cheat endless mon, as cheap as it gets iirc?
Kartana cloyster fusion with skill link and icicle crash as well as rock blast. Currently on floor 1577. Also therian lando and mega metagross fusion hits HARD with tough claws
shroodle with corrosion prankster on toxic sounds pretty OP to me
For technician beedrill you forgot to mention pin missile which is a big one. Also idk if Technician applies to multi lens nerfed moves but if it does that's disgusting
Rayquaza has unnerve now, he's arguably one of the best leads for Endless now with the mega, he can take down bosses without them chugging berries every time you get them low, really helpful for catching Pokémon too, since they don't recover every turn for 6 turns with sitrus berries
It's amazing you went through all of this. I hope in the future that there's a tier list with only the first stage pokemon of each species. The exceptions can be the branching evolutions where it's the final forms instead.
This is literally only the first stage…
Well I have good news for you! This video on which you've commented does exactly that
I dunno if you correct this down the line, but I believe magician activates anytime YOU make a move, and not if you get it, I believe thats a different ability whose name I forget. so magician caterpie would be pretty crazy, especially if you were sweeping with it.
Honestly, Mega Beedrill is SO good in PokeRogue. It's carried me through several rounds of classic mode. I'm so glad I found a shiny one with a Jolly nature~ Absolutely worth investing in, even though it can take a bit of luck to get the Mega Bracelet and the Mega Stone.
as for sobble's super luck, his signature move, snipe shot has a high crit chance and of course always hits it target which is irrelevant, i just only just now learned this when fact checking myself on the crit chance
Not sure if this egg move was added after the release of this video, but Yungoos gets Extreme Speed as an egg move. Definitely takes it to OP with Adaptability and Huge Power. One shots basically anything that isn't insanely bulky or rock/steel/ghost.
Combee is my only shiny and now i love Vespiquen, king's shield as an egg move, defend order, roost, and strugglebug/infestation have helped with both catching more mons without one shotting them and stalling out mons that i don't have a solid answer for (she got rayquaza to minus 6 for me). She has bulk similar to Spiritomb, be it with a much worse typing, with healing and def/spdef buffing. She has been an amazing wall for me in this game.
pokerogue has gotten me to love pokemon i'd otherwise completely forgotten about.
Is there any way to manually/consistently apply status to a Pokémon with guts or marvel scale?
Also, Ball Fetch seems to be working now as when I brought along a Yamper to spread Pokerus the effect procced at one point. Though it’s probably best used as a Catching Tool when Resetting for Catch RNG.
Good vid but I'd definitely like to see a stricter OP section next time. A few on there feel like a stretch.
i requested sharpness on fomantis and it has that now
that’s me at #1 on daily ranking 😎
I was waiting to see where Keldo was ranked and things must have changed, because now his passive is the (more insane in my opinion) grim neigh. With its egg moves, its insane
Video on best pokemon for beating classic mode? Kind of like a beginners guide?
I got you
@@HoodlumCallumyou a real one!
Regigigas gets Normalize as a Hidden Ability. It's still not amazing cause Normalize means no coverage, but no Slow Start at least
35:18 you don’t need leak for sirfetch, it’s still absolutely crazy even without it
Cherry Tomato, also honey gather collects cash.
I think Anger shell is really good because it can activate multiple times. So if it you give it a sitrus berry that heals it above half HP and then it gets hit back down below half, it will activate twice, basically giving you a free shell smash without you having to waste a turn to use it. But Omastar also gets Shell Smash so Anger shell can basically give it a free +4 Atk, Sp Atk, and Speed buff. Its definitely a glass canon after that though. Lol
Cherry Tomatoes. Also, thank you for going through all of this, obv this took a lot of time to make, and it was a nice video to have on in the background while either playing the game myself or doing hw.
ok hear me out: is gmax meowth bc stonks? i mean how much money do you get from gmax gold rush? can you stall battles to get more gold rushes off? And then scale like crazy with infiniteish rerolls in the shop?
Punk rock is busted on Primarina, punk rock + liquid voice boomburst, need I say more?
I think you might have mixed up Magician (for sigilyph and sprigatito) with pickpocket in terms of rating. Magician triggers when the pokemon WITH magician attacks and pickpocket triggers when the pokemon with pickpocket is HIT. So sprigatito or sigilyph not being super tanky doesnt hurt their use of the ability and makes them kind of insane actually.
I don't know if anyone's commented this yet, but Honey Gather gives you money after every battle. Plus shiny body press skovet is a staple of my runs for a luck boost and good bulk, and does really well in early game
New to the channel. Do any of your face tattoos have any special meaning? Good videos.
Ponyta-G learns Flare Blitz as an egg move!
Opportunist Alakazam won me my first classic run so it’s definitely very OP
out of all my runs i’ve never gotten mega pidgeot, i always run pidgey
Cherry tomatoes 🍅
Video was incredibly informative and nice to see some of my favorites get insane passives
im struggeling, what are 3 good beginners to play? or a good sweeper?
Intimidate on Beartic, while is good and makes a lot of sense thematically (is a bear after all) it doesnt really fit it's playstyle of sweeping.
Good thing it got changed to Tough Claws, also very fitting for a bear and actually increases damage.
They changed Tepigs passive to Rock head. Meaning theres no risk to taking Flare blitz or head smash. That coupled with Victory dance which it can get as an egg move makes it S tier in my eyes. Ive seen this thing solo kill wave 145.
Body press on Stamina Archaludon is legitimately the best pokemon in the game able to sweep the rival easily
Overheat, Armor Cannon Contrary Magmortar is pretty crazy.
Castform disrespect. It carries early game with the egg move boomburst so adaptability slows the drop off (wish he was faster tho). Hope they implement the forms soon
About competitive, I think it would be really cool to implement these pokemon into a simulator
You know allowing them to have their passive abilities, all the new moves (though not the multiple items and berries cuz that for sure would be way too much)
I'm curious what would be considered good with these new additions, compared to the current comp formats.
I unlock transistor on pichu but pikachu passive still locked. So, it seems that all middle evolved from babies will not have any candy locked perks.
They just changed about 60% of passives for Pokemon. This tier list may need an update
I'm going to come out to bat for hoothoot, calm mind + boomburst makes this thing hit way above its weight, especially for a one cost pokemon especially if you get good ivs and nature like I have. cursed body is a really odd choice for it though in my opinion, i mean i guess you could run it with roost to proc it more often? scrappy would be cool
Whenever I play the game and I select a move it just gives me a blank text box and it stops there someone pls help
I personally do strategize my pivots. Having good synergy makes everything easier. Team comp and synergy are incredibly valuable in runs, even a run that isn't the greatest can be salvaged by team comp and synergy. Going for 6 "Broken" mons rarely ever helps in my experience.
Highly disagree on the Caterpie/Butterfree/G-Max Butterfree placement. For starters, Magician procs when you hit an enemy not when an enemy hits you. Couple this with Butterfree's normal ability compound eyes (increases accuracy) and sleep powder (obtained at level 12), you can have a 97.5% accurate sleep powder (100% if you also get wide lens or x accuracy). While butterfree's BST is 395 (then 495 with g-max), you have the benefit of getting it in early game giving you a guaranteed sleep faster than most early game mons including boss mons. You also get quiver dance later, so you can get the sleep off then quiver dance once or a few times then start attacking AND stealing items every time you deal damage. Just had a classic run where G-Max butterfree pretty much carried as I would steal so many useful items to distribute across my team including two sharp beaks that just stayed on my butterfree to make air slash (and later, hurricane via TM which is also made 93% accurate by compound eyes). Also this makes Butterfree somewhat unkillable as you get later in the game as you just amass so many berries which 1) gives you a whole bunch of buffs and healing and 2) takes away useful berries from your opponents. Kinda got a god roll as well and pulled a berry pouch which just makes magician Butterfree so so SO much better. Highly SLEPT on Pokémon for your run as a good support and quiver dance special attacker, easily goes in the high end of "useful but situational" tier for me
how do you get exeggcute or pikachu to evolve into the alolan forms?
I feel like wind rider could be sleeper op, might be my experience but Hurricane is literally everywhere in this game.
I got a manaphy, 2 tail glows and it sweeps entire team, it's very busted Pokemon but with simple it becomes unstoppable blue blob of destruction.