Chaya Czernowin - Sahaf [w/ score]

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 13. 11. 2012
  • support us on Patreon : : / scorefollower
    web : : scorefollower.com/
    more info below ⤵
    performed by Ensemble Nikel
    Sahaf (Drift), for saxophone, e-guitar, percussion and piano by Chaya Czernowin (1995)
    www.ensemblenikel.com/
    chayaczernowin.com/
    Featured Composer #6
    uploaded with permission from Chaya Czernowin, Schott Music, and Ensemble Nikel.
    Publisher @ en.schott-music.com/
    Purchase Score & Parts [ED20481] @ en.schott-music.com/shop/saha...
    --
    follow us for new videos and news!
    twitter : / incipitsify
    facebook : / scorefollower
    join our community on Discord : / discord
  • Hudba

Komentáře • 70

  • @nathanielouzana
    @nathanielouzana Před 9 lety +31

    I played this to a first grade girl and she liked it and started to dance.... Seems like I have made an achievement in this world :)

  • @Slitnozzle
    @Slitnozzle Před 8 lety +137

    My mother used to sing this to me. Ah, the memories.

    • @Diamonddogusa
      @Diamonddogusa Před 6 lety +2

      ok, this made me laugh. Thanks.

    • @daigreatcoat44
      @daigreatcoat44 Před 5 lety +2

      I'd like to think that you sang along with her. You're lucky to have had such a remarkable mother.

    • @djoyce33
      @djoyce33 Před 4 lety

      best comment ever :))

  • @officialburkemusic
    @officialburkemusic Před 7 lety +13

    Honestly, I think this piece is a load of fun.

  • @incipitsify
    @incipitsify  Před 11 lety +16

    wait what - this IS pretty

  • @haydenryan831
    @haydenryan831 Před 7 lety +5

    Chaya's scores are always so fantastic!

  • @landonellis8728
    @landonellis8728 Před 8 lety +8

    The use of different and constantly changing tone colors in this piece feel very well thought out. I may never find myself writing in this style, but this has piqued my interest.

  • @kadoen
    @kadoen Před 8 lety +11

    One of the best uploads lately, I really like the feeling of machinery that starts and stops gradually, the ratchet really helps in that. Also, all those repeated quickly repeating notes must hurt the fingers :')
    Edit: I just realized this was uploaded in 2012, it somehow appeared on my youtube frontpage

  • @arunaszizys5225
    @arunaszizys5225 Před 7 lety +10

    the excitement of newly discovering a composer on one's wavelength

  • @talastra
    @talastra Před 2 měsíci

    The quiet part at the beginning with words was haunting.

  • @rogerseim6958
    @rogerseim6958 Před 6 lety +15

    Actually, i found this kind of pieces very interesting... i saw a coment that says that the composer doesn´t have anything to say, but it´s really hard to write this pieces, and also, i think that, on the way to found new paths to our music, we need to express this controlled chaos.

    • @Melpheos1er
      @Melpheos1er Před 2 lety

      It's really hard to make someone wear a neckless made of turd. Doesn't me the turd neckless is a masterpiece

    • @lightyagami1058
      @lightyagami1058 Před rokem +3

      I think it's very Crumb-esque or possibly Varesian.

  • @Disestabulistic
    @Disestabulistic Před 11 lety +1

    Holy crap, many thanks for posting.

  • @ayaneyamanaka
    @ayaneyamanaka Před 11 lety +1

    LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT!!

  • @priscilamalanski7405
    @priscilamalanski7405 Před 10 lety +7

    great!!!!

  • @jesusmauryvargas8971
    @jesusmauryvargas8971 Před 4 lety +2

    such a banger

  • @yokolynne
    @yokolynne Před 11 lety +1

    HA j'adore!

  • @guarrho
    @guarrho Před 11 lety +1

    right on

  • @MrBeethovenfan
    @MrBeethovenfan Před 8 lety +9

    My biggest complaint with contemporary or new music is I've spent decades collecting and cataloging in the broad genres of "chamber" or "orchestral," then along comes newer ensembles that are relatively small but sound orchestral and all my efforts are out the window! Pierre Boulez was among the earliest culprits. I'll need a new broad genre -- music.

    • @pawllyphonic
      @pawllyphonic Před 7 lety +2

      Yeah, it's been for over half a century now. Nono's great duo for two violins is (for me) like a Mahler symphony. I too keep chamber and orchestral music generally separate, but with modern music (which consumes almost all my time now) I don't separate by number of performers. If it's something (no matter how profound) that feels like a conversation that one might over-hear, than it goes with chamber. If it (no matter how trivial) seems to be addressing itself at me and/or an audience, than it goes with orchestral.

    • @MrBeethovenfan
      @MrBeethovenfan Před 7 lety

      pawllyphonic
      I may have to try this. Thank you!

    • @randywells3695
      @randywells3695 Před 7 lety

      MrBeethovenfan Simply put I am the broad new genre of music (one must of course ignore any flaws in the performances, as they are single take, as well as the necessity of only putting crowd pleasers up at the moment), but I assure you I am the whole future of art music.

  • @ezequielstepanenko3229
    @ezequielstepanenko3229 Před 7 lety +3

    it's fun to read, and it must be entertaining to play because of it's difficultness, a funny piece nothing more

  • @netedco
    @netedco Před 11 lety +1

    Then good for you, after her hard work it's nice that someone finds beauty in her works :)

  • @__414.88b_
    @__414.88b_ Před rokem

    Heavy and cool

  • @gurumajuindonesia
    @gurumajuindonesia Před 4 lety +3

    she played the guitar ?? damn .. awesome !

  • @jameshelgeson4668
    @jameshelgeson4668 Před 7 lety +18

    It's always better to disable comments....

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 Před 2 lety

    so good...

    • @machida5114
      @machida5114 Před 2 lety

      It is a work that everyone is interested in. Many comments point to that.

  • @marcomoreiradasilva7294
    @marcomoreiradasilva7294 Před 3 lety +1

    This is a very good prog rock.

  • @klangschatten5610
    @klangschatten5610 Před 3 lety +2

    Strange, weird, but very interesting music.

  • @netedco
    @netedco Před 11 lety +2

    Don't get too upset, Chaya told herself that she doesn't try to make it pretty or comfortable. It is not ment to be understood right away...

  • @pRahvi0
    @pRahvi0 Před 3 měsíci

    Is there supposed to be sound or is it muted?

  • @talastra
    @talastra Před 2 měsíci

    The farty bottle-slides made me smile; quite adorable.
    It's too bad the composer isn't around: I want to know why the piece is the length it is.

  • @goingfortheone1
    @goingfortheone1 Před 10 lety +3

    I like plenty of other compositions by her, but I'd pick Thinking Plague over this.

    • @talastra
      @talastra Před 2 měsíci

      Yes, but they're also not at all the same thing.

  • @pedroyambi
    @pedroyambi Před 11 lety +1

    Actually, it was kind of a superlative statement about how much this music impresses me. I'm glad you're so passionate on defending it, though. Anyway, you have to admit is not exactly easy listening to this music (as with Ferneyhough's).

    • @talastra
      @talastra Před 2 měsíci

      Ferneyhough is shit. This is not shit.

  • @andreslka
    @andreslka Před 3 lety +1

    (1/7)/4 cool

  • @creamforever2677
    @creamforever2677 Před 2 lety +1

    El valor de esta cosa es similar al del regaetton

  • @netedco
    @netedco Před 10 lety +1

    It's the same recording from the CD lol :)

  • @1MrZackdaddy
    @1MrZackdaddy Před 6 lety +1

    JJJEEESSSUUUSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 Před 6 lety +2

    Il paraît que cette femme est professeure de composition. J'espère qu'elle enseigne mieux qu'elle n'écrit. En tout cas, j'espère qu'elle n'enseigne pas son style.

    • @jwbeats35
      @jwbeats35 Před 5 lety

      Franck Mousset elle écrit très bien

  • @TheCounterpointer
    @TheCounterpointer Před 11 lety +4

    because??? is it because it's not C maj, G maj chord kind of thing?.. surely this music is made for SOME human brains. Maybe not yours though. But don't generalize all human brains.

  • @nik8099
    @nik8099 Před 4 lety +3

    I like this. Of course this will piss off the classical music elitists, but they are always angry at everything!

  • @pedroyambi
    @pedroyambi Před 11 lety +1

    Damn! This was not made for the human brain.

  • @Jazzdog40
    @Jazzdog40 Před 10 lety +7

    She muddies the waters that they might appear deep. ~ Nietzsche

    • @evancaplinger5856
      @evancaplinger5856 Před 9 lety +13

      ok so this line applies to romantic poets and not modernist composers, for one thing - nietzsche is discussing the poets' exploitation of private emotion and the sense of profundity, whereas his view is that that stuff should be felt within and not projected without - a cursory search on analysis on the internet could tell you that. meanwhile, chaya czernowin's explicit purpose is to bury the emotion so that you have to dig to find it.
      so - nietzsche refers to poets that lure in people with tricks to make their emotion seem more accessible, whereas czernowin deliberately alienates people? hmmmm

  • @nycsym
    @nycsym Před 9 lety +3

    "She muddies the waters that they might appear deep". ~ Nietzsche
    Great quote. Freddy was wrong about many things, but not about writing in an obscure way so as to appear profound.

  • @theopaopa1
    @theopaopa1 Před 9 lety +5

    la compositora sabe "componer" pero no tiene absolutamente nada para decir, contar o transmitir.
    si ésto es el fruto de su imaginación, talento, sensibilidad, esfuerzo y duro trabajo me parece que (si ella es verdaderamente honesta consigo misma) pierde el tiempo, y si no lo es (honesta consigo misma) entonces allá ella con su consciencia y autocrítica. La así llamada música contemporánea es por lo general así, ruidos sin ritmo ni ton ni son, ella no es una excepción.

  • @arvidtom
    @arvidtom Před 8 lety +6

    Everything I've heard by this woman (and actually most composers on this channel) is the same boring "emperor's new clothes" kind of academic European 'avant garde' music (which actually is not avant garde at all, because it's basically nothing but a recycling of the same 1960s-70s modernist tricks and formulas over and over again).

    • @johnappleseed8369
      @johnappleseed8369 Před 6 lety

      I don't agree with your assertion, Hans Christian Andersen has better books than the "Emperor's New Clothes". It's overrated garbage, I think you should be talking about this piece rather than some shitty book that you love so much. Why not comment this on a book forum or something? that would be more relevant wouldn't it?

    • @talastra
      @talastra Před 2 měsíci

      @@johnappleseed8369 Says the person with John Appleseed as his handle?!?

  • @frankfeldman6657
    @frankfeldman6657 Před 7 lety +1

    i can tell you this-the players are doing no more than vaguely approximating the notation a good deal of the time. so what is gained from such pretentious notation?

  • @squirrelterritory
    @squirrelterritory Před 9 lety +26

    The success of a modernist composer is based off how exotic their last name is. It's all garbage, so who can tell the difference.

    • @incipitsify
      @incipitsify  Před 9 lety +35

      While considering the fact that my last name means vagina and I'm not successful (at all), I'd say no.

    • @squirrelterritory
      @squirrelterritory Před 9 lety +2

      incipitsify lol, wf kind of last name is it?

    • @sebastiandiakakisnilo6999
      @sebastiandiakakisnilo6999 Před 7 lety

      Dude you must have some serious issues there...get better, good luck!

    • @squirrelterritory
      @squirrelterritory Před 7 lety

      Jesse Kaiser what form is it that u are appreciating, I know alot about music theory so you don't have to explain what ur terms mean

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 Před 6 lety +2

    Exemple emblématique de mauvaise musique contemporaine. Lachenmann a vraiment rendu un mauvais service à toute une génération de compositeurs. Outre l'instrumentalisation qui est loin d'être la plus géniale, on a l'impression plus d'un catalogue d'effets sonores que d'une véritable composition avec une structure perceptible et avec un discours cohérent. Pas étonnant qu'une part importante de la population se détourne de ce type de musique.

  • @eai554
    @eai554 Před 6 lety +2

    Unadulterated crap; Czernowin has much better music; this never should have seen the light of day, much less performed