X32 Firmware V4 | 301 - User Routing 1-to-1 Patching!
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Behringer has released Firmware V4 for the X32. This update brings some amazing features like 1-to-1 patching but also changes the look of the menu structure. This video goes over how to use the 1-to-1 patching of the new User Routing!
If you are looking for a more basic overview of the routing section, you will want to navigate to this video which is dedicated to explaining the routing section of the X32 board: • X32 Firmware V4 | 103 ...
Keep an eye out for more videos coming shortly and make sure to check out my blog at www.dbbaudio.com for more free training and tutorials.
- Drew Brashler
Anybody using the ”Mixing Station” app to control the X32 will love the way the guy laid this out. It’s a simple grid where you just check the appropriate boxes to assign inputs and outputs. Super fast, no time-lapse video required. Love it.
mixing station 💥💥💥
Yeah, i really can't understand why behringer made it in such strange way.
I'm really baffled at how this wasn't even implemented since the very beginning. You have no idea how many times I had to do workarounds just because I didn't have the option of individual routing. This is a phenomenal update but it was long overdue.
2 mins of this video saved me an hour of reading + trial & error. Thanks!
Thank you for your time and hard work. The information will be very helpful to our worship team. It'll take time to adjust and to take real advantage of the new firmware, but you have made the process much easier. God bless you.
Drew, you knocked it out of the park again. Thanks again.
I don't have enough brain power to comprehend audio routing, regardless of how easy it is in theory, but I thank God you upload these vids, brother! Peace!
An impressive thing about the X32 platform is that updates are still being configured for it as old as it is. I bought mine when they first came out many years ago and was stoked about the scribble strips...no more tape LOL! I need more input channels though and considered the Wing. For some reason, it never caught on like the X32.
I am so happy they fixed this! There have certainly been times when I've been using an X32 and needed more than 24 inputs from the stage but also needed one or two inputs at the FOH position. Very rarely do I need exactly 8 inputs at the FOH position. It's really nice to be able to just assign the specific inputs that you need like you've always been able to do on basically every other digital console!
That's a great feature now!! Tks @Behringer and Drew Brashler
This is good.. thanks drew... Angle to see screen is a bit hard.. but again thanks for all you do..
It’s about time!
Thank you! Been running 200 extra feet of XLR for one local monitor by the board.
Saw Drew
Liked video
Watched video
In that order.
I was holding off on updating my console but this is a really usefull feature so i think i might make the move now ;) Thanks for the explaining Drew!
Glad I could help! Don't forget to save all of your console data to a USB drive before the update!
Absolutely perfect presentation and explanation. !!
I have used 1-1 patching before on other consoles and this is a brilliant demonstration of the new Behringer/Midas flow.
Thanks, I received a "shocker" when I upgraded my X32 to V4.06 and S16 to V2.5. I had no outputs out of my S16 but all inputs worked fine. After watching the video about 4 times I figured out that User Outputs should have Output. Why in the world they didn't call them Buss'? I thought mistakenly output was the jack on back of X32. Behringer support was slow, Thanks again Drew!!
Okay but when you routed those all fast I was like what the heck this man is a beast 😂😂😂
I wish I could say that was how fast I could route it, but 800x speed video is legit!
Hi Drew, Thank you for the way you explain it so very nicely and easy to follow!!
Thanks Drew, fantastic as usual
The x32 could always do 1:1 patching. It is just now all in one space, and significantly more flexible. I have had single re-assigned channels on mine going back many years. I remember having my first 16 on the stage box, then my local wireless mic's and sources and had then grouped in with my wired vocals from the stagebox all in 1-8. You could reassign the source for individual channels through its config page. So I wish people would stop saying it was forced in groups of 8 as it was not.
Yes, you can do 1-to-1 channel routing like you are mentioning. But what you weren't able to do before is take only 15 of your inputs from the stage box, and then use 17 inputs from the local console. You would be limited to selecting 1-8 and 1-16 on the stage box, and then an additional 16 from the local like your setup. But if you wanted to have 17 inputs plugged into the local and then take 15 from the stagebox, you wouldn't be able with the old firmware.
@@DrewBrashler It was actually better than that. I could have my board in the default setup using all local inputs. Then plug my aes box in and grab one or two inputs to assign to any channel.
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I however needed x32 edit on a PC to do this IIRC... I took that video last year when V4 was announced and my production partner was very excited about it And I was "what is the big deal" lol. Of course once I updated my board and saw how much easier it was, I knew they knocked it out of the park. It really did add functionality in addition to how much easier they made it. We are both right to a degree.
Of you we’re working in a block of eight, you’re right. Try to make it with an odd number of input and you’ll fail prior version 4.00. Watch the whole video and it’s self explanatory what’s the new advantage is.
Drew, thanks for the whole series of V4 tutorials. One question, wouldn't it make more sense in your example to only use the User patching for 25 to 32? Seems that would be a lot quicker to only use the User function for the "8 block" you need to split.
That’s what it thought too. And saw someone doing that in another video also. So the way you described should be more efficient than shown in the video I reckon.
god bless you you saved me with this video 🤓
Love these videos! Could you do a quick walkthrough of your X32 Routing Worksheet? Theres a couple pages I'm confused on what they are used for.
Such a great video! I tried version 4 last Christmas and it was a complete disaster. Inputs were dropping like crazy and I spent 60 hours trying to get the patching to work, and it still never worked. I might wait a year and try it again!
Drew, I'm new to the X32 and I love your content, but I wish that you would slow down just a bit for my feeble mind to keep up : )
This is awesome; now we just need custom fader layers. C'mon Behringer, let's "just go ahead" and do it!
That would be cool!
What a Dream! Thx for the tutorial BTW.
With the individual Channel Source select (see Drew’s latest video) as well as any Local or AES50 i/p, you can have Aux, Fx Return, Bus o/ps and USB L/R on the ‘Channel’ faders, which gives a limited custom layer.
Great Drew...Joe from Staten Island
HI Drew, I cant thank you enough for all you do for us worship leaders that have to know the X32 inside and out1 I do have a Q though, and my head hurts from watching so many times and still not getting it. This Sunday we are trying our first post lockdown service outside on the from lawn. I use an S16 on stage that has all 8 outs set as mix busses. This week however I want to download V4 and figure out how to use out 7 and 8 of the S16 as my main out 15 and 15 so I don't have to run 100s of feet of XLR out to our portable speakers. Our board is staying in house and we will be running the service completely via iPad. You don't specifically address this in the user out section of your video. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I need (want) a week or two with someone to teach me m i love what i see with the Behringer
Drew, you are the go to online trainer for this console and you do an awesome job! I wanted to know do you do any Wing training videos as well?
Thanks so much! Yes, I do have the Wing and I will be making videos soon!
Can you do a tutorial using the User Routing set-up for house mix and at the same time do a livestream mix? My R32 R Live just got delivered today and your videos are really helpful for our church. Thanks!
Yes. That's what I'm looking for too ...
@@johnconeff5832 I did David Willis M32 Tutorial on Udemy. I suggest you check it out. Our M32R Live is been working awesome. We do 3 concurrent mixes for house, outdoor and livestream..
Let me make sure I understand this….if I have 4 instruments on stage that go into a snake via 1/4” Jack and those snake outputs are 1/4 aux as well as 5 wireless mics that are XLR. I can plug all 5 mics and the 4 aux, using 1 for 1, in local 1-9 without losing channels?
Thank you for explaining this new feature. I’m considering using this to play back previously recorded tracks. For example, when our drummer is out one week, I can still add prerecorded drums to the mix by patching the drums tracks from the card.
Glad it was helpful! I think that is a great way to use this new feature!
I need help!! I just upgraded to a X32 How can I route my USB sound to my X32? For XR18 AUX L/R is by default computer sound :’)
This helps!! Thank you!!
Thank you bro
So, on the input side of things, how is this effectively any different from choosing a input for each channel on a channel by channel basis? Before this firmware upgrade, we were able to select a channel, press the home button, select the config tab and the choose a source for the channel. Probably I am missing something here. I just don't know what it might be.
Chris... You are right... yes You have always been able to Assign the pre amp of your choice into the fader of your choice.
What this enables you to do further, Is select pre-amps from an external source such a wireless snake one by one instead of only an 8 channel block at a time.
@@aldoruizshow Thank you. That makes sense. We use a regular snake, so I never really considered anything else.
So I'd understand that this means I could patch the vocal mics (like those you have in 29-32) into the channel 1-3 faders if i wanted my vocals on that fader bank.
Tommi Hirvonen You have always been able to Assign the pre amp of your choice into the fader of your choice.
What this enables you to do further, Is select pre-amps from an external source such a wireless snake one by one instead of only an 8 channel block at a time.
@@aldoruizshow Oh awesome. I had never seen anyone cover this before.
How could we audio out from x-32 for a livestream feed through the aux out w/ TRS.?
Is it possible with the routing features to uses FX in say a DAW such as Reason as send FX via USB?
Yes, but you will be dealing with latency from the USB input and output
thanks a lot!!!!
Coming from DAWs, the X32 routing seems unnecessary complicated, it gives me headaches...
hello Drew
amazing videos, what i want to ask is how to route the outpus busses in the configuration :
m32r foh, m32r monitor dl32, i need 12 busses for monitor and 4 busses for PA. i cant find the right way to do this, can you help me?
greetings from the Netherlands
Is there a way to send an aux out to a PM16 input channel? So it can be used as a submix in case last minute mics are added at a show and haven’t been assigned a head of time to the PM16.
I did as you said but I find that my channels are not being turned down when I turn down the main. I get full volume when my main is all the way down. What did I do wrong? Thx for help.
Hello, I have a question can I use a Behringer S16 stagebox with a Yamaha TF3 digital mixer thru a Dante NY64-D expansion card output port ? That works. Thank you
It is very surprising to me that some basic features this mixer (along with others) were missing until recent firmware updates, and the need for an USB recording card. A 10 year old Tascam recorder / mixer seems to have more features and flexibility. Aside from the motorized faders can anyone convince me to buy an X32 and let go of my DP32-SD? Not only can the Tascam do 1-to-1 patching, it can assign ANY input to ANY track with a press of a button and a twist of a knob.
Hello. I would like to ask for an explanation:
1. How to connect X32 Compact to S32 and use 16 outputs.
2. How to connect x32 Compact and use outputs 1-8 from S32 and outputs 9-16 locally from X32 Compact so that you still have 16 outputs.
3. How to freely configure outputs on X32 Compac and full size.
I am asking for help, which I need to connect more and more often and I have a problem with it.
Regards. Paul
Hi Drew. Great videos! You have helped us train an army of sound techs at our church. Thank you for all your help. I have a question about the xlive. With this 1 to 1 routing, can you rout select x live outputs and have others for the worship team to play to? For instance, I made recordings of my worship team with drums. When the drummer is not available, can I just select the card output for the drum channels and let the rest of the team play along?
Yes you can! Set the channels you need to pull from your X-Live card from the "Card" inputs on the user routing inputs. This would typically be Card 1-2 or additional channels if you wanted to route individual drum channels. Hope this helps!
Why wouldn't someone use the 1-to-1 user routing exclusively, for all things? Seems to provide the most flexibility for in's & out's...just takes a few mins longer to config. I.e., are there any downsides to this approach aside from the few extra mins to config?
Hey Drew. A friend of mine who runs sound at a church that I service wants to record 16 channels on the X-Live Expansion Card while simultaneously sending the broadcast stream of two channels to Facebook and CZcams. If that's possible could you do a video showing the routing configuration to achieve this?
Using the User In option, if you already have the AES50 1-16 setup as inputs, do you have to deselect all of the ASE50 inputs and manually repatch all in order to setup some local inputs?
Any thoughts on why or how to send user outs pre-fader? Just discovered that if I record a Channel to a computer via card outs set to user outs, with a fader adjusted lower than unity, when I replay it, i would have to raise the fader to compensate.
Hey Drew, as usual, great video! I have a question in regards to the second part of your video, multitrack recording. Would I use the same concept if I want to use outputs 1 and 2 for USB out to my live stream pc and 3-32 to record to the x-live card?
Drew, thank you for sharing this. So I have the S32 32 x 16 and I want to take mix 9 and 10 which is for my stream to be local on the board, how can I make this happen?
Will 1to1patching work with Dante card & P16 without losing the ability to place audio on the network for our streaming team via audinate dongle to streaming pc ? we have a Dante card in our X32 to a S32 powerplay , and 3 P16D16s.
I need to route local 1-8 to my live card output 1-2 in order for zoom yo see my mix. I’ve done this by Routing my card 1-8 to outputs 1-2 which Is what zoom sees but now the live card isn’t recording local inputs 1-8. What can I do in Routing to make the live card record 1-8 and also be able to send 1-8 to usb card 1 and 2 outputs. Thanks and bless you for your knowledge
What output channels does the S32 use when sending back from x32 on the AES? You mentioned that the Ultranet uses outputs 33-48 and you have to use those. But what does the S32 use for it's 1-16 XLR outs on the back of the S32? Is it simply 1-16? Or can you change and customize it? I'm trying to understand the use cases of only being able to pass through 17-32 if the other blocks are locked in when using an S32.
Can you do 1 to 1 routing for mixer or stagebox outputs? e.g. two mixers using individual outputs on the same stagebox. Do you have a video explaining this?
does v4 allow for more flexibility when using WSG like can i make a custom route to insert or are inserts still part of auxes. Would love to be able to use WSG without it affecting monitors and having it as inserts for all 32 channels
Thank you so much for sharing this Drew. I have been having routing issues. Can my X32 act as a lone digital patchbay even with a hybrid studio?
Can you do another video to cover one on one patching using the local and also the one on one patching using the channels thanks
Hey Drew, what is your lapel mic's brand and model?
You are totally going to laugh at this one. But I bought it in 2016 and it has served me well! It is a Pyle PMHM2 that I got from Amazon for $15. I do some fairly heavy EQ work on it in post, but it works well for only being $15! Check it out: amzn.to/2WDHnGM
behringer x32 pitch correction tutorial please
Thank you so much for that Video. I have a question and maybe someone can help me. I am a Tech Guy in our church and we are using the X32 Compact for some weeks. Now my problem is that the outputs from our console are the same like the outputs on our S16 Stagebox. So i have only 8 Outputs and if we are using the outputs for monitoring we only have 6 Outputs, because 7 and 8 are Main L+R. How i can separate the outputs on the stagebox from the outputs on the console so i can use 16 Outputs? Would be great if someone can help me out. I am completely new in this whole thing. Thank you very much!!!
Thanks for asking, Josef! Check out this video: czcams.com/video/FBnuuPCnGTQ/video.html. But you will want to make sure that your S16 stagebox is set to have the +8 output light turned on. Take a look at the S16 manual on the specifics of how to do this, but by default it will have the outputs 1-8 of the X32 on the S16. By setting the S16 to the +8 on the outputs, it will be pulling from the 9-16.
Another option is to set your AES50 outputs 1-8 to be from Out 9-16 instead of Out 1-8. This would force your X32 to output the 9-16 down the 1-8 to land at the S16.
Hope this helps!
Drew Brashler, would/could you please PM me on iMessenger? Seems you have gotten me 85% there but not all the way. My set up is pretty typical I think. And I could use the guidance if you could spare, of course thank you, Drew. Compensation is available I’d expect.
Do you have any helps that have to do with getting sound from a computer into a x32? I have it feeding through a AUX, but the audio is messed up....it's not playing the full stereo sound...??
Question: Hi Drew, I'm using an M32 at FOH, an X32C at monitors, and a DL32 for IO. When at festivals and even venues, sometimes I have to have my outputs come from the DL32. Unfortunately, the x32 is also pushing outputs from the DL32 since we only have 8 local outputs in the X32C. The x32c also is set to have gain control at monitors. Is there a way to make these consoles both push signal out of the DL32 simultaneously? EI the x32 sends out 5 stereo iem mixes, and I at FOH have 6 main sends for the PA.
Justin
- [ ] Thank you drew, Can you tell us how we can link multiple x32 consoles together, say we want to setup FOH, Monitors and broadcast
hi everyone,
is it possible to route a mix bus to the headphone output jack? in the monitor view I can select "aux 5/6" and aux "aux 7/8" as source but that refers to the aux INPUTS as it seems. so as a workaround I can route my mix bus to some arbitrary aux out and than hard patch it back into e.g. aux in 5/6. but that feels really odd, is there no way to soft patch this?
cheers & best regards
I have the Behringer X32 FOH and on stage we have the s16. We want to use output 6 7 and 8 4 in your monitors but that is currently being taken for left and right sub. How would I go about routing this so that main left and right and sub are coming from local the X32, to free up 6 7 and 8 at the s16
Does this affect ALL existing scenes, or does this have to be done Scene by Scene? I want to be able to back out from using SD16 and SD8 and go back to regular XLR snakes if we hit a snag when installing.
Changing just one scene and saving would allow me to do that.
Can i use usb more than 16 gb in version 4.03 plz drew
We use Bheringer x32 in our Church in LA, i can say i have a good understanding of the use of the mixer, if anyone around need help understanding or setting up their systems, feel free to contact me.
I want a very simple routing please help me out with this. (usb card)
: Computer sound to ch 31/32 l/r then all channels with efx ofc routed to two other channels to be sent to the computer how on earth do i do this? i want to record only two channels aka a ready mixdown i do not use daw anymore.
And also i do not want to record 32 channels takes space and THEN mix it AGAIN and then mixdown, this is not for me atm.
Sir I'm banging my head on some stuff .
Running x32 usb carded to a pc then to reaper daw .
I us a dl32 for everything exept the usb to pc and aux for pc sound back to x32 .
I'm trying to rough out a daw mix threw a aux out 1/4 inch say 1and 2 to a atem mini pro so I can run my live mixes with plugins from reaper .
All 32 channels on the dl32 are used .
Aux ports 3,4,7,8 are opened 1 and 2 in have a left rt from the headphone of pc and 5 and 6 are a click track route from reaper .
Originally I had a matrix mix routed to 1 and 2 out and then that went to mix input of the atem and worked ok but mix could be alot better lol
And thoughts out help would be great I am doing this in my home studio but our church setup is the same so hopefully I can solve this here .
Thanks
Man this will help a bunch. Thank Drew from presenting. Your the man. I also have a question. You said that I can route 48 channels in total. So can I add another 16ch stage box along side my 32ch box and route those new inputs to be controlled from the aux in layer?
Thanks for watching, George! Unfortunately not on your question. The input side of the X32 user routing limits to 32 channels on the input, but 48 channels on the output. So you would still be limited to the 32 input channels plus the 6 AUX channels on the local board.
@@DrewBrashler Thank you
George Bonta If you connect a stage box to the mixer using the AES50 B port (so you would be running two CAT5 cables to the mixer) then the first 6 inputs on that stage box can be routed to the Aux faders instead of the mixer rear jacks. Be aware that the Aux channels have limited processing features. Dave
Hello, i have a question. Can you route the Main LR or Bus to the input channels on M32?
Apparently the answer is already in the video :). I use the user out and send the main LR to input 31-322. Thanks!
Hi! We have an X32 & s16. I am using the usb on the x32 to pull audio into my macbook for live stream purposes. I have NO CONTROL over the live stream audio unless I turn the main faders all the way down & the keyboard is the toughest. We are running it into a DI Rack and running the rack into the s16. Even if I mute, it will mute in the house but it still blasts on the stream. I’m running 4.2 firmware on the x32 & 2.4 on the s16. I’m not recording to/from any DAW’s I only want to use the x32 usb as an interface to have our audio from the board go into my streaming software & out to the live stream broadcast. Please help🙏🏾
Hi, By default the outputs to the USB Card are direct from the Mixer Inputs (Local or AES50). To have fader control of the Card inputs for your Stream, you would need to Route the card inputs to a Mixbus Output (post fader Tap, which is the default), then with Sends on Faders, send the outputs of the Channels you want to appear on the Stream to the I/p of that Mixbus. The Mixbus o/p fader would be the master level control for the Stream, and the Channel faders would control the mix to both the FOH & Stream simultaneously. If you wanted an independent mix for the Stream you would need to change the Sends on Faders Taps to ‘Pre fader’ then the Send’s faders would be the mix for the Stream. As with all sophisticated systems there are many other ways to achieve the same result, but each with it’s own features and advantages!
I always have X-edit running on a computer when doing complex setups as it is much easier to see the routing paths and options (and any miss settings) on the graphical display than it is on the small mixer screen. Hope that helps.
Is this a practical way to deal with linked (stereo) inputs so that only 1 channel is taken up? Keeping more "prime" instruments together? I have a Producer so can only access 8 channels at once. (I understand the left/right each require their own channel, but the right of stereo inputs could be 'stored' in 17-24. Does that make sense?
Hi, I have the Compact which has the same 8 + 8 + M. fader layout. Pressing (any) 2 Input bank select buttons (at the left of the faders) simultaneously will switch both the fader banks. So pressing the 1-8 & 9-16 buttons will give you 1-16 across the 16 faders. Or you could have 9-16 & 17- 24 etc.
Re the routing: If you link an Odd & Even pair of channels they will give a Stereo (pan is automatically set L/R) channel output, but you can still select the same 2 inputs to any other non linked channels to give individual mono channel outputs. Channel linking options are on Setup/ Config/ Link prefs.
Drew great video learned a lot. I have a question on running as s16 snake and a x32 producer. how can I run all 16 xlr's?
Glad you liked it! For running all 16 outpus, you will want to make sure that your S16 stagebox is set to have the +8 output light turned on. Take a look at the S16 manual on the specifics of how to do this, but by default it will have the outputs 1-8 of the X32 on the S16. By setting the S16 to the +8 on the outputs, it will be pulling from the 9-16.
Another option is to set your AES50 outputs 1-8 to be from Out 9-16 instead of Out 1-8. This would force your X32 to output the 9-16 down the 1-8 to land at the S16.
Hope this helps!
Hey Drew. Thx for your published videos. I really appreciate it and they helped me (almost) perfectly. But.... I got some questions for you:
My configuration is: X32 rack with S32 at AES-50A. I use the equipment first of all as a InEar monitoring for the bandmembers. Local XLR Outs 01-08 are for the mounted stereo inEar-systems.
My routinting questions:
1. Out 15/16 at AES-50A as MainLR
2. Out 13/14 at AES-50A as a separate MixOut for Video over a MatrixOUT
3. Out 11/12 at AES-50A as another seperate MixOut over MatrixOUT
4. Out 9/10 at AES-50A as StereoBusMix for Bassplayer (System Not mounted in the InEar-Rack)'
5. Out 7 and 8 at AES-50A as MixBuses for Monitor wedges
What about the routing? What do I have to do?
Thx in advance and greetings from germany.
CU, Oliver
Do you need to assign all 32 channels using the user settings, or can you work as normal and then just edit the bank of 8 that you want to split in the user settings?
Caleb Botting you set the user channels in blocks of 8 first, so you could leave (for example) 1-16 on a digital snake and then only user designate blocks 17-32.
I would think it’s worth doing it all as user designations though. It only takes a minute, and it gives you maximum flexibility.
I am still confused about new routing. Using my X32 in recording to a PC. Routing page has a configuration for recording and one for playback. How do I monitor previously recorded tracks and record new ones to the PC?
Great question, Jim! The routing for Recording is when your console is set to recording mode, so you will want to have this be your inputs from the stage (ie. local or AES50). Then you can press the 6th rotary knob on the routing page to change between Recording/Playback to swap over to the playback mode. This you would want to have routed from the expansion card so it would play form your PC. Hopefully this clears things up!
Drew Brashler Thanks for the reply and the info regarding 1 to 1 routing. After playing with several combinations and new Calkwalk DAW software, I managed .to get everything working exactly the way I needed it to. Please keep up your instructional video as they are so helpful and your are very good at what you do. God bless and take care.
In youre video you mention Channels 1-29 used as AES50 and Channels 30-32 as Local inputs . Then in the user inputs page you assigned 1-29 being AES50 and 30-32 as Local 1 ,Local2 and Local3. THAT IS WRONG because local 1 local 2 local and local3 has already been assigned as AES50 . This will not work Channels 30-32 should be set to Local 30, Local 31 and local 32 then you can local input into Channels 30,31,32
Real helpful more on this time, that is not events at all maybe to play in my house with my dog, come on dude wake up
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You lose me at 8:02. When you get to the output section, you're basically assigning the source you want to send to the output. But "Output 15" isn't a source. Why aren't you choosing "Main L" here instead?
Everything I know is a lie now
Drew please help!! I just got a x32 compact and I can’t get anything to come out of my s32 outputs, i have input signal, but when I tab over to “xlr” in the routing page it only gives me 1-4 and 5-8 , I then go to the patch out and is routing my outputs out the local outputs