Vul’umlomo: Conversations on Culture | Unpacking Identity | Episode 3
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2022
- Interrogating our identity through lenses such as gender expression, degrees of Africanism and cultural preservation is important for understanding ourselves as a society.
In our 3rd episode of the Viceroy #Vulumlomo: Conversations on Culture, our host Robert Marawa engages our esteemed panel, Dr Bishop Jessica Mbangeni, Mr Mbuso Khoza, Mrs Sinqobile Aderinoye and Mr Anele Siswana in a discussion about who we are in African culture and what this means for us in modern day society.
Enjoy Responsibly. Not For Persons Under the Age of 18.
#CharacterShapedbyGenerations
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The views and opinions expressed in this show belong to the panelists and do not reflect those of Viceroy.
Ubab khoza is a star its sad we are not spreading him to us as the youth!
Babu Khoza, salute!!! for being clear on issues.
Respect to ubaba uKhoza for the truth and diluting it
This is hard for bab uKhoza, as he has a huge gap of intellect between himself and the rest of the guests 😊
but why is this episode nt in a million views.....salute to mbuso khoza
Could have been such a beautiful conversation and the intelligence of bab'khoza deserved a bit of a stage but what this panel focused on is everyone's personal personification of egos & emotions.
Sinqobile was my therapist. She is HEALING personified. She took the shame out of not being ok, here I am, ALIVE and content. I am grateful Sinqobile, MAKWANDE!❤
makwande.
Unmanga 😂
Bab' khoza has is full of facts....facts not emotional opinions....he is the only logical masculine thinker....he doesn't trying to be western
People are tryi g to be while and accept delusional concepts
Wooow Robert Marawa... You are an awesome anchor. Pulling this overflowing 4-stream dialogie was fascinating.
👏👏babKhoza ekugcineni just said my view exactly
As uGogo & Lesbian myself, I enjoyed this conversation. Thanks Everyone.
I like Gay guest, he represented LGBTI community very well. So proud of you, Sir. Shout out Bab Khoza. Thanks Mr Marawa....
The gem that is Khoza. I love this dude.
I would have loved to hear Mkhulu Khoza opinions of the LGBTQIA+ marriage, culture, kids & surnames. It would be lovely to expand this conversation.
and when it comes to surnames I want my name to a surname now ngeke kaloku
I think this LGBTQIA+ thing in it current form is foreign to Africa.i blv we had our own views,beliefs and perceptions around it not this Eurocentric view
Yea, this talk was too short. Serious conversations like this build and are worth however many hours, a series
If you are gay and use pro nouns I don't think Khoza will partake in that convorsation ngoba he has said it before we only have two semale and female only
If you are gay and use pro nouns I don't think Khoza will partake in that convorsation ngoba he has said it before we only have two semale and female only
In these conversations about culture, identity and being African, I would appreciate a perspective from and/or about the coloured community. I feel like in many mainstream conversations in this country, coloured people, their perspectives, and their experiences are missing. Many of them have ancestry that is indigenous to Africa as much as they have Asian, European, etc. lineage, and I feel like their voices need to be included instead of sticking to the binary of black vs white or black and white. Not taking their inclusion seriously in such spaces contributes to the existing division between the coloured community and the rest of the African community because we remain so ignorant to each other's experiences which at some point in our histories converged and were one. Yeah... otherwise a very lovely and informative show
you have a very serious point there
You are correct in so many ways
But there is no such group as coloured people coloured means people of colour so that's term is broad and racist against black people
I am very lucky to have heard ( and still do@UkhoziFm) ubab' Khoza. In this podcast I am blessed to have heard bab' Anele's take on being gay. I am actually embarrassed by my ignorance before seeing this podcast. How judgemental we are about things we nothing about!
To the two ladies, wow! Where have you been!? We have been dying of lacking knowledge and our mothers have been holding out so much knowledge and wisdom? 😢😢
My first time to know this show and have people who know much better about our black people
Lovely to see Anele and Sinqobile as guests. This show covers such a vast amount of important topics that people shy away from speaking on.
Hello Amu, thank you for your feedback. Happy to have shared informative insight with you. #Vulumlomo #CharacterShapedByGenerations
I appreciate this show. Siyabonga for the teachings we receive la.
powerful episode, if possible may we see more of bishop Maponga and bab' Khoza.
they truly have been gifted with ancient answers for modern day africans.
These topics cut so deep thank you Viceroy and esteemed panel for another amazing episode!
🙏💙 #Vulumlomo #CharacterShapedByGenerations
I'm 26 and I'm so very interested in watching every single episode n learning a lot 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Hello Lulwandle👋, we look forward to providing you with insightful conversations on culture. #Vulumlomo #CharacterShapedByGenerations
I respect babu khoza so much
Wow Wow, i just watched this and I want to say, its so informative
Thers a lot of older people who can't speak this type English but know than that whole panel,English for black people is a tool for sounding intelligent and educated not necessarily to be understood and to get ur point across.
I appreciate this show so much💯🙌🏽
Both maternal and paternal makes up your identity. Yes you can't be identified by both at the same time but then again you can't ignore one of them.
I personally embrace and acknowledge both my maternal and paternal lineage, which is why when someone asks me which tribe do I belong to, I refer to myself as Sotho-Tswana and not simply Tswana just because my dad is Tswana. I will never ignore my maternal heritage of Basotho. I am made up of both and both of these cultures encompass my identity as a person. Why erase the other? No.
I love this show! Thank you! Important topics. They are so rich in knowledge and this table allows diversity.. can we have more shows? Amazing work!
Hello Sithuthukile👋, thank you for tuning in🙏. #Vulumlomo #CharacterShapedByGenerations
Beautiful conversation with open minded people, I have learned so much
This is amazing, please keep bringing more
Voice yakho Robert, lovely. Thanks for informative guest
I love the idea of creating learning tools via digitalising. Creating e.g a game to help the youth would be the quickest way to for them (youth) to absorb such knowledge.
Great conversation with such knowledgeable panelists
Loved this episode. Please make it two hours…it’s too short😊
I love the variety of panelists that are on the show
Hi Amu, we do believe that it is very important to create a platform that encourages conversations like this to happen and we love that you are part of it. Thanks for your support.
This is the content we really needed as the modern youth.
Keep them coming .
WoW, such thought provoking topics.
Thanks to all the guests for the enlightening discussions. And I particularly appreciated the inputs from the psychologists, Sinqobile and Anele, please invite them again.
Thank you for your valuable insights & inputs Tseko 🙏 And thank you for watching 💙 #Vulumlomo #CharacterShapedByGenerations
Can we have more of these kind of conversations for us to learn as young people so that whe we have kids we know what to do ❤
Heavy concerns of awaited arguments and conversation 😅❤
I love the topic 💯
Sibonge for Listening to us and making it an Hour...
Ngibingelele...Senibuyile BabMadluphuthu..kazi benicashephi...
this dialogue was much needed
i never want to stop learning
Beautiful and informative episode
I really love these conversations ♥️
🙏💙 #Vulumlomo #CharacterShapedByGenerations
Ukhoza uyinsika
Patiently waiting 👌
Hello Kabelo, we are live🙌. Please do enjoy the conversation and feel free to share your feedback in the comment section. #Vulumlomo #CharacterShapedByGenerations
this thing aired a year ago???? I am sad I am only finding this now!!!
This was so informative to watch ,I learned alot from it
Hello Tebogo, thank you for tuning in. We're so delighted to hear that you have learnt a great deal from our #Vulumlomo Comversations on Culture Ep.3. #CharacterShapedByGenerations
Hi Tebogo, we appreciate that you are enjoying these conversations and should definitely explore to learn more.
@@viceroysouthafrica5476 hi
How and why did culture come about? Please answer this for me!!!
Anele hamba uhambe ngesiko uyibambe kanjalo gogo ningiphe Viceroy phela
Well One can never be Two and Two can never be One but together they bring out Three same applies to binary code, I call it the law of numbers and time its never wrong, because if these an error the code will not work. So i think being gay or trans its a generic error that we will never understand. however they are human after all we need to accept them in our society
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Our wives should look like Mama Bishop
Respect the pro noun my foot
You didn't even let uBab Khoza to speak aii... Sukani Nina
The problem starts with calling our fellow Africans from other countries within the African continent "Foreigners "
Foreigners are those who are not from African Continent .
ILLEGALITY is the issue here .....
❤ 🇿🇦
As we wait
Hello Nobuhle, we are officially live🙌. #Vulumlomo #CharacterShapedByGenerations
You talk about africanness, but the reality is what if ubaba wami is Zulu and my mom is white, am i an african because i was born here, or because my father is really an african, what if my father is dutch and my mother is italian, am i african because i was born in africa?
Are they specifically touching "identity" which raised culture and traditions while one respond on the topic
Zithuthile izimbila la... It's just complicated.
Makhosi 🔥
but you donot get to force your feelings on others just take your place
05:49
What is queer in your language ?
#Vulumlomo zonke iziqendu ziphela ndisenomdla
Kungcono ngampela uma kungabuyelwa kuthi ukunatshwa ,zimfishane ngampela.
people from former Bantu stand love to say 'no one is from Soweto/JHB" that statement is laughable because according to them we all from the Bantu stands, as if the people who occupy those areas were there from the beginning of time. the Truth is, we all don't know where we from.
Aii khona anele.... Aii we have authority to tell you what is wrong vele uzokwenzani
05:32 uyofuna uliba.
Wamosha ke lo uthi uyisangoma aii...
1..We have been taught that a man is the leader of the family right? And he’s the one who’s suppose to provide for the family. So what if the woman is the bread winner or rather the provider? Does that change the whole concept of family leadership?
Solid question.
Hello Lethabo👋, great question! Growing up, we are introduced to gender roles (male and female) and what those roles mean in our household, traditional, and cultural context. Understanding gender roles, gives us the room to choose how we embody and express our gender in the confines of culture.
@@viceroysouthafrica5476 you still haven't answered the question
A male is a born leader so even if he doesn't have money it doesn't change who he is, cause for example if a young person with parents get educated and becomes richer than their parents it won't change that hie/she's still their child forever
The answer was no
Addressing African issues with English is very off kuyini nje ukukhuluma izindaba zethu ngolimi lethu hayi🚮🚮🚮🚮🚮
if they would speak in Venda or Xitsonga would you understand
Gr8 point,now we r listening to them use English that even white people dnt use in a normal conversation.i hate how blacks speak in this type English bcoz it takes away from making the point and being understood but rather about sounding intelligent
Khulumani isintu aii abo they nani nani bafethu
Mina ngizomnika isicoco ubab' uMkhathini kulengxoxo
Do not currupt the African minds with the gay issue
But that would insest and inbriding which are sin
yhooo next time makathethe isixhosa losisi English imsa lee, uyajampa jampa hini enxibe kakuhle kangaka. ngoku ukhala ngoo because abanintsi
There is no conversation here.
So much to say about this conversation. But 1. how do you "preserve" something that all the panelists agree is continuously changing/evolving? It means culture and traditions are time sensitive. Hence references to 1419, 1652 to argue for or against whites being African... But who were we "at the beginning?" Because if the definition of Africanness is where the "umbilical cord" fell then the white person has the right to be called African.
2. Heterosexuality vs homosexuality and culture or Africanness. I found it a bit hypocritical when he portrayed "sex" and "ubungoma" as a choice as a result of changing social constructs , i.e. whether to observe paternal or maternal side, if so, society can determine whether white people are African or not moss, as long as we "agree."
This interview was edited horribly, well for us - we missed a lot. They definitely did some politically correct editing, but ke it's a brand engagement so oywell...
Asinandaba nama LGQ what what
ABANTU ABANTSUNDU NJE LABA KUTHENI NIKHULUMA ISILINGU KWANINA LAPHO?
tje only person who is making in the panel is bab uKhoza . the rest is confusion
Gay is gay kwaphela n nonsense yomkhuba lo.
Anele with the disrespect I have you are confused and your presence have prevented us from learning important things because those are respectful and don't want to be brutal to you
Rob please dont blair the lines, no one wakes up and says they are uMzulu because they are born in africa!!!!!
if we are honest zonke lezinto zama sexual identity nizizwa ngama Americans. much of these identities are adopted from another culture. lost me at they/them, total delusion.
Honestly Viceroy how can you hijack this important conversation through the promotion of alcohol. Disappointed by these learnt panelists who agree to even accept the invite...just for a few pennies
How can you highjack this important conversation with all your negativity???
Teach yourself something - if you have nothing good/positive to say, it's best to keep quiet.