History of WWI Primer 094: Serbian Mausers 1899 and 1908 Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
Additional reading:
Serbian and Yugoslav Mauser Rifles
Branko Bogdanovic
Serbian Army Weapons of Victory 1914-1918 Vol.1
John P. Sheehan
Branislav V. Stankovic
The United Service Magazine
XXXIX April 1909 to September 1909
Mauser Bolt Rifles
Ludwig Olson
Josef Werndl und die Waffenfabrik in Steyr
Hans Stogmuller (sp)
Mauser Military Rifles of the World
Robert W. D. Ball
Mauser-Gewehre und Mauser-Patente
R.H. Korn
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Additional photos thanks to Rock Island Auction
Ammunition data thanks to DrakeGmbH
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That RIA video dating commercial at the end, how am I just now seeing this? I'm literally 10 feet away from this asshat most of the day and he never showed me this. Betrayal.
At first glance I read “IRA video dating;” whoopsie poopsie.
@@TheSeanoops is that what they meant by lying in the dark with a provo company?
vlaricshard2 Yeah, with a comrade on me left and a comrade on me right.
So that’s why it’s a clip of ammo, not a mag?! Mind blown
Don't be mad. I hear its calendar is still open for a candlelit Valentine's Day dinner.
There seems to be a magic portal to Othias' right that contains all the Mausers
So many Mausers, so little time.....
I must enter this portal
Would that be a glory hole?
what is the muzzle velocity of 1908 carbine?
indeed!!
Thanks for the excellent video!!! I am from Serbia and I have a picture of Grandfather's Grandfather from the army with this gun, he died in 1914 in the war.
Man, one gun I would REALLY like to see evaluated is Mauser-Koka-Đurić, the Serbian conversion of the 1880 Serbian Mauser (AKA the basic Mauser-Koka) to the 5 round repeating rifle that you mentioned. About half of the basic Mauser-Kokas were converted and given to the 2nd ban units (those performed in combat approximately as good as the 1st ban due to greater maturity and experience even if the equipment was somewhat inferior), the remaining single-shot Mauser Kokas were given to the 3rd ban along with old single shot Russian Berdans.
I find it amusing that when a WW1 rifle is common, the ammunition is often rare as hens' teeth (looking at you, Type 38 Arisaka), but here, we have a cheap and common ammunition (7mm Mauser for the win) and loe and behold, the rifles are rare as pictures of Othais without facial hair. How Othais still has any hair after all the stress that comes with finding both guns and ammunition after all these years, I cannae say. Yeesh!
Luckily, some other 7x57mm rifles are easier to acquire because god, it is an awesome round
Kragujevac is correctly pronounced "Kra-gu-ye-vatz" EVERY letter c in Serbian is pronounced "ts". Next the letter ć which is often found at the end of the Serbian surnames is always pronounced as a soft "ch", best illustrated with the way "ci" is pronounced in the Italian greeting "ciao". The problem being that due to stupid Austro-Hungarian transliteration rules between Slavic latin and German (later expanded to include British) latin, which was inherited from the Croats with the latin script after the unification, every written letter ć gets changed to written letter c when transliterating, aparrently for no other reason than visual similarity between the letters which is phonetically wrong and outright confusing, but is still an official convention in south slavic countries.
Some people complain about others writing "life-story" length comments, but they're lazy illiterate bast@rds. Great explanation, thank you sir.
Edit: that said, I think Othais keeps mispronouncing things as a comical schtick.
Thanks for this Othais, a long-awaited and truly great video, well-researched as always, really appreciate the effort! Greetings from Serbia! :)
It's always good to end the night with Othias and Mae.
Another Mauser.....Serbian and I am very pleased.
It’s 4pm here, and it’s my day off! I just wanted to say that I appreciate all the hard work that the whole team puts in to bring us this fantastic series.
Been eagerly awaiting this episode ever since the Q&A with Ian. The want is so real.
And we are trying to make it look and sound as dope as possible.
Once you start firing carbines you fall in love with them. I had both the Lee Enfield Jungle Carbine No. 5 MK 1 and the M1 carbine manufactured by the Inland division of General Motors. Fantastic guns. So when you both started singing the praises of the carbine you were singing to the choir.
The RIA bit at the end needed Ian in the smoking jacket and pipe. Very good video guys, and I know I would just be happy to just find a Serbian 1910 at some point...
Where infantry used a bayonet, cavalry used a sabre..so..no bayonet lug. Glad you got it for the show..that rifle is a jealously kept family heirloom here in Serbia.
Stayed up and saw the RIA skit. Had a good chuckle. As always Othais, your hard work is most appreciated, I am glad as always to see my money go to good use.
Have a Spanish Mauser in 7x57 looked very similar to the carbine you were showing has an exposed barrel on upper hand Gard ahead of the sling swivel. Nice shooter!
thank you for this video, its quite amazing to hear so much depth about this weapon....
I think i made the best pawn shop find ever , seller described it as a probably modified Yugo M24 in 7mm Mauser, but i think i just got one of those Serbian mausers for just 500$
Have you verified the marks and model of it? If so, how much it is worth? Have you got it inspected and appraised?
@@BHuang92 1st it got a modern CIP pressure approval laser engraving and parts have different serialnumbers but the reciever stamps seem to be the same as the steyr produced and thereby legit, and no i wont sell it to anyone ,i will get it out of the stock, give the stock some nice woodoil and put it at a dry place and the metall parts submerged in a oilbath until i eventually use it with weaker reloads on special ocasion, this gun is gonna be my property for all of my life even if it might be worthless thx for the video
Nice
Hm, M24 is made in 7,9m (8mm Mauser) which became stabdard caliber of Kingdom of Yugoslavia After WWI
I doubt that somebody modified to, in that time, rare caliber.
So probably you have pre WWI rifle
I have one of the Serbian 1899C or the Serbian partisan rifle I got it for 250 and it’s in decent condition
The moment you make a small sigh out of dissappointment because it appears to be just another mauser video - hello. Here's maybe the best little carbine of the era ever. This is why I like this stuff so much.
3 more days till worlds collide. #projectlighting
those 1908 carbines have to be the most beautiful mausers I've ever seen!
Will be watching what I can before bed and finishing at lunch tomorrow. I am certain this will be a great episode.
Sounds like May needs a Spanish FR8
That 1908 carbine would be cool to own even as a replica.
On opening this video, I was presented with the following problem: In order to like the video, I had to increase the total number to 70.
The things I do for C&Rsenal!
I just knew Mae would call out short sight radius on the carbine, even in spite of shooting better with it. Never change ;)
Mark D , without support from a stationary object sometimes the overall length on rifles of this era can be hard to steady despite the longer Side radius. Hence the carbine can be a little easier to manage and as long as short range conversions,are-factored for perhaps nearly as accurate especially at seventy yards.
The feeling of excitement and adoration I get when I see that 1908 carbine on screen is only matched by my disappointment and despair at the realization that I may never find one in person. What a gorgeous little carbine, I love it.
Been waiting for this sooo long, THANK YOU!
Would you guys ever consider doing a Mauser family tree episode? there are so many fascinating models and sub models, yet good information on the internet is surprisingly hard to come by, it would be good to have a rather definitive resource from the likes of you guys.
I had owned an 1895 carbine in 7x57 that had been sporterized a little. It was a light weight, accurate rifle. I wish I had it back.
Great episode, and even better history background. Loved it.
The level of detail you bring to this is staggering, Othais. Where in God's earth do you find such rare guns????
Thank you for a great episode guys, i really enjoyed it. :)
Guys, I have to say I'm loving the new photo transitions (like the one with Austria having to worry about Russia and Italy) and the little coats of arms, the generally the new graphic additions are candy for my graphic design eyes after work! Great job :D
No need to apologize for any delays, thank all of you for all of your hard work!
cool my grandpa has one of those dated 1910
! Thank you! So much enjoyed this! Would love to have the 1908 carbine.
That 1908 Cav Carbine looks a LOT like the Swiss SIG / Mannlicher 1893 Cavalry Carbine... nice!
I have a question: In the firing parts of the video we get shown the grouping afterwards. That is nice, but it would be cool to know what Mae is aiming at. Is she going for center of mass (a) or the head (also a?). Would give a bit more context as for the performance of the particular gun. Cheers!
Always center unless otherwise noted in commentary
13:01 Kragujevac, hometown of Zastava!
Sleep is for the uncommitted.
Excellent show!
A Primer video to start my day. Worked late last night. Better than coffee
thank you John For weapon
I have a 1916 Spanish Mauser in 7x57 it is such a smooth rifle
That carbine is just absolutely gorgeous, too bad it has been sanded :(
Nice to see some Serb stuff!
R&N RailProductions Serbs!
The best Mauser channel on CZcams.
@C&Rsenal will you guys be doing an episode on the 1872 British Bulldog Revolvers? Only just started watching the series a few weeks ago and i am hooked. Othias and Mae do a tremendous job!!
Attractive woman, attractive rifle. Y'all just made my day. Thanks so much for your hard work.
You'r amazing guys!
Oh man, the ending was one of the funniest thing I've seen in a long time!
Does C&Rsenal have a podcast? I could listen all day!
I love your videos ! Very passionate !
Which camera do you use please ?
Im commenting before i watch letting you know I acknowledge your videos and watch them
Wrt the carbine I agree. With just those few changes it would turn an already fantastic rifle into an outstanding one
...Would anyone else buy a C&Rsenal Othias patrol cap?
Heck ya!
One here please!
I believe that is a Gottmann cap . expensive and he said no longer available in wool.
Already own two in wool-charcoal one hemp , hand made in the states. 10 years old, the Hat People , Out of Oregon.
Thank you for sharing!
I esp. like the carbine. Wish today's guns would be made like this again.
Awesome.
Love the Body Warmer Camo.
Othias, due to the stronger action would this gun be considered "safer" to fire hotter rounds than an Ottoman rifle? (assuming all other variables to be equal)
Cool Guns !
To Othias and Mae excellent presentation.In the words of Manco/Eastwood "Bravo".And a few dollars more.Featuring that beautiful Cavalry Carbine 44 caliber with removeable shoulder stock.My only question is why not use a shoulder sling/strap.and lock your forearm that is technically correct and was the milituristitcal correct way of controlling primer detnonation and powder explosion and projectile releasal to what the target should be. (Intended target).To be proficient it is required that the (shoulder sling/strap always be used). Other than that good demonstration.BRAVO.
Where’s muh Serb crew at?
7x57mm: God's Chosen Rifle Cartridge.
NATO should have adopted it instead of. 308
Great video. These rifles are unfortunately very rare in Serbia today.
WOO WEEE!! Just in time!
"and the bowl in the middle was Just right" Mae's groups speak volumes , so I guess that the carbine must once of been Mama bears gun ! , Thanks to all at C&R for 94 shows of Historic educational information and enlightenment .
what is the muzzle velocity of 1908 carbine?
Bonus like for the RIA clip!
What is the soing that plays during the 1908 carbine being shot?
Kenny G for the win. How was shooting the 1899 in 7mm versus something like an 1896 in 6.5?
NuclearAlchemist ,You have asked the quintessential question, thank you.
Unexpected Mauser, I like it
that 1899 looks like the same exact one that Ian had for his video on the same model...
That’s because it is the same one. I won it at the Rock Island he was showing it for.
I hope you guys come back up to Springfield Armory soon, I’m now doing my internship and would love to talk old school firearms.
Tell Alex hi for us
C&Rsenal I definitely will!
Getting a mauser swapped with a mosin is like having your steak replaced with a corn dog
Indeed, yet the fanboys refuse to acknowledge the endless list of better features.
Guns are such pretty tools .....To bad they have such dreadful purpose ....... Greetings from Serbia,great video,amazing collection and keep up the good work guys !
Did I miss it or is Mae's ring new to the last two episodes?
It needs a dust cover like a type 38 Arisaka to be Mae's favorite pick.
Those full length stocks are hotness😍😍😍
Type-46 Siamese Mauser review pls!
All these Mausers are making me dizzy. We need Project Lightning, quickly.
Mixing a drink as a nightcap, what better addition to the mix than C&Rsenal
Makes me proud of my 95 Chileno
A singular war - so war was declared. If it were multiple wars then those many wars were declared.
11:00 is othias saying COC allows for slimmer rifles than COO?
I wonder if the serbians got a few Madsens automatic rifles when they over ran the Austrians.The Serbs I heard took up the high hill sides that carpatian mountains particularity bulgaria or southern region of the carpathian.
Hello from a small village in the Serbian carpathians.
It`s no surprise that this carbine is Mae`s newfound love.
Hey, C&Rsenal when you get around to ww2 and after I have a Lee Enfield number 4 mark1/2. If you want pictures hit me up. best part i believe its all matching!
The sad music with Mae's shooting seems perfect (audibly at least) for a massacre in a movie about the Armenian genocide of the time
That thing at the end we need more of that I almost died laughing
Huh......mauser is my favorite gun
My granddad have one :)
*yEs iM GiRl*
SERBIA STRONG!
Straight bolt handle vs bent bolt handle - what are the reasons?
Cost and handeling. The trend of the firdt bolt rifles from the 1870, is to use a straight handle on the bolt. This was cheap, and gave easy access for the shooter, and a good lever. But the straight handle makes the rifle bulky, and it's prone to catch into things. I believe the cavalery rifles where the first ones to get a bended handle. One example is the French Gras rifle. They where buildt both with straight and bendt handle. Another con for a straight handle, is the less natural movement of the hand operating it. With a straight handle you will totally block your sight view of the target, when reloading. With a bendt handle, your hand will not obscure your view in the same degree.
we played carabine melody in school orchestra)
Why do I get Italian-language ads for an investment website?
Earth is Serbia.
Mother of George Luger was Serb. Luger was also speaking Serbian and write on Serbian cyrillic alphabet.
Thank you for referring to the model 94 as it did assess the bayonet lug sometime after the turn of the century. Craftsmanship would be superior to the Serbian. Hence the model 94 and model 96 should be ranked among the finest.
Craftsmanship would be the same or worse, the only real difference being one got used the other didn’t
"determined idiots" I did not think anyone could put my existence into better words