How ‘poor’ Bengal has beaten ‘rich’ Gujarat: Niti Aayog report and grasping what’s counterintuitive
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‘Boom state’ Gujarat has a per capita income twice that of ‘laggard’ West Bengal, but the two states have nearly the same share of population under the poverty line. Stunned?
Released earlier this month, the Niti Aayog ‘National Multidimensional Poverty Index: A Progress Review 2023’ defines poverty as going much beyond per capita income. In Ep 1281 of Cut The Clutter, Editor-in-Chief Shekhar Gupta delves into the Niti Aayog report - based on Modi govt data - to explain the different criteria of poverty, and how it turns conventional calculations on their head. Based on data mined from the index, he explains why Bengal appears to be doing better than Gujarat on many counts.
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Out of 169 Total Billionaires, Gujarat Produced a Whopping 86 of Them, And Many Large Gujarati Corporations or Gujarati Owned Corporations Employ many Southerns in South , I'm Speaking as a Hyderabadi , Gujarat under Modi Followed a Typical Industrialization Process followed by the UK, Germany, The USA and China etc
😂😂USA has Poverty of 12% and Algeria has a Poverty rate of 2%, Does that Mean Algeria is More Rich and Technologically Advanced than US, Out of 169 Total Billionaires, Gujarat Produced a Whopping 86 of Them, And Many Large Gujarati Corporations or Gujarati Owned Corporations Employ many Southerns in South , I'm Speaking as a Hyderabadi , Gujarat under Modi Followed a Typical Industrialization Process followed by the UK, Germany, The USA and China etc
US,UK,Germany etc In 1900s has 12 Hours Work ,Child Labour, Highly Unsafe and Sewage flowing Crammed Neighbourhoods etc BUT they were Industrialising and they Eventually Became World's Wealthiest Countrues becoz of Industrial Revolution Had given a GUARANTEE of Future Development for Almost Every one, That's The Exact Model South Korea , Taiwan and China Implemented and Became Super Rich, The Same Model Mr Modi Implemented the same Model in Gujarat and Made the State India's Manufacturing Powerhouse with Huge Foreign Investments, When compared relatively To Gujarat, West Bengal has Little Industry, Huge Population and Unskilled Workforce and It's Welfare Schemes can only work of some years, Becoz there is No Large Scale Manufacturing Base For West Bengal to Become Rich like Gujarat did
US,UK,Germany etc In 1900s has 12 Hours Work ,Child Labour, Highly Unsafe and Sewage flowing Crammed Neighbourhoods etc BUT they were Industrialising and they Eventually Became World's Wealthiest Countrues becoz of Industrial Revolution Had given a GUARANTEE of Future Development for Almost Every one, That's The Exact Model South Korea , Taiwan and China Implemented and Became Super Rich, The Same Model Mr Modi Implemented the same Model in Gujarat and Made the State India's Manufacturing Powerhouse with Huge Foreign Investments, When compared relatively To Gujarat, West Bengal has Little Industry, Huge Population and Unskilled Workforce and It's Welfare Schemes can only work of some years, Becoz there is No Large Scale Manufacturing Base For West Bengal to Become Rich like Gujarat did
Gujarat is at the Exact same Spot where Inditrialised Nations of World in 1914 were-The US, Germany and the UK etc with Poverty, Malnutrition, Unequal Wealth etc, But they Porgressed With Time becoz of Large Manufacturing Base and Gujarat will head the Same Path, But Does WB have any Guarantee Becoz it Doesn't have any Large Industrial Base, World Class Infrastructure, Capital etc like Gujarat and Should have also Stated that Gujarat's Just Merchandise Exports in 2022 is a Huge $ 147 Billion Dollars, Or Simply 1/3 of All of India's Total Merch Exports, It ahows Gujarat's Huge Industrial and Manufacturing Power ,And Gujarat has almost same number of Billionaires at 86 to Germany at 100, This Shows Huge Gujarati ENTREPRENEURSHIP
if WB really wants to develop as an all rounder including both HDI and economic parameters, its should follow the inclusive model of Tamil Nadu and not Gujarat... because TN has shown positives in both sectors of economy and literacy and such parameters, while Gujarat development is merely restricted to making money
Gujarat Literacy rate is higher than WB.
@@challenger539 True also during covid lockdowns we all say the flock of bengali migrants going from gujarat to bengal back home.
If bengal had been better to live than gujarat we would have seen the reverese.
We love people from Tamilnadu, but I have to tell the truth. The truth is TN is far behind WB in HDI or economic parameters. Just see the education sector, Public schools of TN it so bad that its own population don't go there and there is sharp decline in enrollment, people are shunning Tamil language school for private english medium school. Higher education in TN is basically sold to politicians and private business by the successive govt and they charge hefty for studying in those thousands of very low quality private institution as the public institutions are not available. Recently there are some recent effort to open govt colleges in remote corners which increased the enrollment. But still lots to be done. in WB , 98% of school children goes to study in free public Bengali medium school, higher education is free for all resident of WB (its like France and Germany, free university education for all) until the end of the university and is 100% govt public funded. And this existed for last centuries. Similar things happens in public medical facilities or similar sectors. So naturally TN is far behind than WB. Also irrespective of good industrialization of TN is still behind WB even though long ago WB moved away from low wage manufacturing and geared to SME(small and medium enterprise). And regarding distribution of wealth, I think no state in India can overcome the amazing success of WB.
@@challenger539 Yes, if you can only write alphabets, you are literate in India. While in West Bengal if you finish the University then only people consider you as literate. That's the difference. And on top of that University education is free for all resident of West Bengal, its 100% funded by public money and owned by govt and accessible for all resident (its like France and Germany, free University education for all of its resident). So rest of the Indian states has to pass another century to even come close to education system in West Bengal.
@@yami6499 Bengalis goes everywhere, all over the world to explore, to find new opportunities and for search of something new, they are the first Indian that went to America and Britain even before any other people of India. It does not mean there is nothing in their state. Also Kolkata has the highest inward migration of people among all other Indian cities and states and Kolkata has a substantial population of Gujrati people. Then does it mean that in their own state Gujarat they didn't find any opportunity? Ofcourse not. Human migration is more complex.
As a bengali who has lived in bangalore and mumbai(and absolutely love Kannadigas and Marathis) , i can definitely say, the indicators that bengal is ahead of gujarat (barring cooking oil) is marginal, but the biggest indicator (GDP per capita) gujarat is ahead of bengal by 25%. The PROs far outweighs the CONS. I'm not blaming any single government, but I feel, this comparison is bit of a pointless exercise. If i'm an 18 year old person with basic skills, looking for a career and job, where do I go? I don't think the answer is that difficult.
I think average GDP per capita figures can be misleading as the wealth inequality in Gujarat is v high and it therefore, skews the figures q heavily. These indicators goes to show that the wealth in Gujarat is not being used to improving the lives of the most disadvantaged groups of people - which is ultimately an important part of a govt's job.
Bengal has missed the IT sector for CPM in 90s, otherwise Bengal is far better place to live & work.
What is the choice you take - Wealthy with bad HDI vs Poor with good HDI
@@MathewJohn-gj5xnHDI in both cases is medium. Not Low or high
@@MathewJohn-gj5xn both Wealth & HDI needs to be high. Conglomerates oligarchs can never give u HDI & Communists can never give wealth. We have to find a middle path which is called opened competitive capitalism with sprinkle of socialism which China did from 90s.
As a Bangali of Uttarbanga i.e. Northern part of WB I can tell you huge no of people are migrant workers who are going for work in states like GJ, TN, KT, KL that was revealed during the Lockdown. West Bengal has minerals previous industrial set ups places like Durgapur Asansol and also Port facility, educated minds still if we are having to Catch up with states like Gujrat that tells the grim situation of the states. You guys would not believe how much the Literate people of Kolkata ignore the plight of us i.e. Rural Bengal.
Gujrat has the highest number of indians leaving the country. Why?
Last year a gujarati family with a small child was frozen to death while walking to enter america illegally.
@@MathewJohn-gj5xnto leave India that also requires capital
Bengalis are going to Gujrat, tamilnadu etc for job ... gujratis are going to US, Canada for jobs. Most of the gujratis in us and canada are doing buisness, few are doing menial jobs. What I want to say, not only highly educated gujratis, even ordinary gujratis are moving to abroad. Bengalis generally do not move to abroad.... they generally move within the country...
@@SoumitraKhirpaidon't think most of gujrathis are poors they going mumbai to work
@@SoumitraKhirpai Gujratis are not working in while collar jobs in US. Infact most of them are illegal immigrants. It is the south indians which has the highest number of indian in US in white collar jobs.
Being a Bengali who have spent last 13 yrs in Rajasthan and Gujarat, I feel that barring the Malbhoom regions of WB there's no honest justification that why there can't be access to nutrition and clean drinking water for the state...
A huge fish eating population having access to rivers and the highly fertile river basins.. Compare it to places of Gujarat like Patan, Banaskatha, Anjar, Morbi.... Even a water supply of 300-400 TDS is considered as clean water there. Given it's geographic advantages WB should have done much better than a geographically ill fated Gujarat.... And that's why Gujarat is a success story.
Shekhar is trying hard to skew the data to belittle Gujrat
Jali na 😅
ch**** jaisa baat mat karo, gujrat has a huge vehicle manufacturing sector, textile and dairy sectors which employs a lots of people there, economically cotton is more valuable than jute, gujrat is one of the biggest producer of that, but for bengal, we have one the highest no,s of MSMEs here and a wide population depending on small business and unrecognised sector jobs which is generating a good income for the population here. gujrat may not have fertile land to produce grains but they have many other valuable crops to earn. comparing gujrat and west bengal is totally useless, the land dynamics, population, food habits, industry everything is different in these two states!
GUJARAT BUSINESS COMMUNITY IS VERY STRONG- THEY HAVE MONEY TO INVEST AND I HAVE WORKED WITH GUJ BIZMEN AND DONE CONSULTANCY FOR THEM- THEY HAVE MONEY AND THE RULES OF SETTING UP INDUSTRY THERE IS VERY FRIENDLY. LAND IS FREELY AVAILABLE AND HENCE THERE IS NO IMPEDIMENT TO SETTING UP INDUSTRIES IN GUJRAT. LAND IS NOT AVAILABLE IN WEST BENGAL - HOW WILL INDUSTRIES COME UP/ BUT WHATEVER INDUSTRIES WERE THERE ALL RAN AWAY DUE TO CPM UNIONS GHERAOS, STRIKES AND MILITANCY. YRT I DID NOT FACE ANY PROBLEM IN MY AREA NEAR DIAMOND HARBOUR
@@asitavac try to understand the land issues here, gujrat has hundreds of acres of abandoned infertile lands, but here in bengal our lands are fertile enough, good water sources are available for all year round agriculture so farmers don't want to loose their lands to industries because at the end they will get only some labour job there with few lakhs of compensations in some cases, so mostly they oppose to give their land to the industries, govt has many lands outside Kolkata and those are start developing to become business parks, manufacturing hubs and IT hubs, you can search for Bata leather complex, ecospace phase 2, Newtown actions areas 1-2 on google to find the ongoing projects there
Sir, have you considered migrants and migration in this? I believe Gujarat is net importer of poor labourers while WB like Bihar and UP is net exporter. If poor people from other states will keep coming into any developed state they will always have significant amount of poor people despite higher economic growth.
There are more Gujaratis in WB than Bengalis in Gujarat.
Out of 9 crores population, WB has 2 crores migrant population from the Hindi states.
Exactly, that is the missing point in his analysis.
Migrants need not be necessarily poor even wealthy and middle class migrate in search of opportunities...which kind of balances out.But the point is the inequality of demographics shows a yawning gap in gujrat and mediocrity is written all over in Bengal...statistics do tell a story and break myths amongst hype and hoopla.
@@agonnoga6100 plz check WB data. before even writing this comment 😁😁😁😁😁😁
WB is also net importer it imports more from.UP amdBihar than it exports to Southern states
So people from which of the two states are moving to the other for employment ?
In that case everyone is moving to Mumbai Maharashtra 😂😂
In that intelligent Bengalis like me are moving out of Bengal and going to Gujrat.
Gujus are illegally going to usa whilst Bengalis are going to karantaka and tn for high tech jobs
Have you seen how many Gujjus are in America and Maharastra??! 😂😂
@@bloodwargaming3662atleast gujju have money to go abroad which wb people doesn't and come to gujarat you find many bengali labour here even you can find Bengali labour in rajhsthan Bengali migrate to other state for labour jobs not for hi tech jobs
didnt expect SG a long time veteran journalist to get fooled by simple data, I rather be poor in Gujarat then in WB, go figure why SG
Yeah,Yeah US,UK,Germany etc In 1900s has 12 Hours Work ,Child Labour, Highly Unsafe and Sewage flowing Crammed Neighbourhoods etc BUT they were Industrialising and they Eventually Became World's Wealthiest Countrues becoz of Industrial Revolution Had given a GUARANTEE of Future Development for Almost Every one, That's The Exact Model South Korea , Taiwan and China Implemented and Became Super Rich, The Same Model Mr Modi Implemented the same Model in Gujarat and Made the State India's Manufacturing Powerhouse with Huge Foreign Investments, When compared relatively To Gujarat, West Bengal has Little Industry, Huge Population and Unskilled Workforce and It's Welfare Schemes can only work of some years, Becoz there is No Large Scale Manufacturing Base For West Bengal to Become Rich like Gujarat did
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I can figure out why; hatred, stereotyping and brainwashing.
Yeah just like a blind man 👨🦯 buying a colour TV and a black & white TV yet modigi can say he made india the most powerful country now all of you jobless hungry people can sleep calmly
@@Shaurya_Pant yep, you stay in waste bengal and convert.
It's hard for Gujarat to fix it's nutrition problem, mainly because their population is largely vegetarian, while Bengal is the opposite. 😢😢
India's most vegetarian states are Haryana and Punjab, how come they don't have nutrition problems?
Vegetarian or Non Vegetarian is not that big of an issue. It is about nutritional information, access to good food and it's affordability are key issues
@@satyajitchavan16Haryana people eat dairy products as a replacement while Gujarat doesn't
@@surajdhas8131that their problems
@@surajdhas8131then what are gujrati eating? Only air?
No offense, but my Gujarati friends are happy eating just khichri (without large quantities of veg inside), fried stuffs in besan. That's surely not too nutritious. And let's not compare this with vegetarian dishes in Punjab, Haryana as they are way superior in terms of nutrition. Lastly, if someone thinks people of west bengal eat only nonveg food for nutrition, that's far from truth, they eat almost anything that trees around us produce, which other states never thought were edible 😄
Shekhar conveniently fails to mention the fact that people from across India, mainly WB, Orissa, AP, Bihar, Rajasthan and UP, keep migrating to Gujarat every year. Even bangladeshi, nepali flock to Gujarat in large numbers every year. This is the main reason for Gujarat lagging behind on poverty indicators.
Maharashtra, Karnataka, Delhi also face the issue of large scale internal migration
So Gujarat population should be more than bengal due to the ongoing huge migration since the Golden era of Modi has started. If the migration is so high...
AP's 😂 going to WB
Bro has the migration from ip reduced jist asking
@@samhithreddy5044 Yes.. Of course check surat, rajkot etc.. Huge fishing and textile workers go to Gujarat. There are 2.5 Lakh Telugu Speakers in Gujarat. Of these 1.5 Lakh from AP and 1 Lakh from Telangana.
FYI - I'm Telugu guy from Hyderabad. 😀
@@chandu25abc20 Not all are migrating. Mostly semi skilled workers come to work in various industries. Ship breaking, chemical, salt, ports.. u need to visit to witness
Sir, please point me to the available and fit jobs in Kolkata. I would love to live in my own home, drive out of my own garage and travel on streets I've always known.
The condition of rural part of Bengal is really alarming. Whatever jobs people do in rural Bengal are mostly migrant workers in states like TN, Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, Punjab, Goa….Bengal has now left with almost no industries and freebies provided by the current government is what which shows some what developmental results in certain criteria….But overall the situation in Bengal is very grim and it’s a mockery to compare Gujarat with Bengal…..
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No jobs are available in any village of India except daily agriculture labour or few panchayat jobs or 100 days works. This is true for all India. Also in India merely 7% people (3% govt + 4 % private) has a REAL proper job, i,e a job that pays some benefit besides salary and Govt of India consider it as a real job, and rest of the 93% people do something or whatever (either unemployed or work as daily labor, self employment, have small business etc). So it's not surprising that in India, villagers are much poorer than cities as there is no job in the village. So if you look for job in village, sorry that does not exist anywhere in India. So either you move to city or be happy with doing agriculture (that is also a very reasonable viable option.)
But even in such bleak scenario of unemployment in India, West Bengal has much more high quality good public sector job in large numbers than any other states of India. But most of the jobs in Bengal are geared towards higher education means you have to be higher educated to get those jobs. But that's not a problem, as higher education is free (until end of the University) and accessible for all resident of Bengal.
Regarding migration of Labor: People always move, Bengalis goes to every parts of the world for search of better or new. That does not mean there is no jobs at home. Also remember Kolkata has the higher number inward migration of labor in India. In business side, Bengal used to have all those large scale business and they moved to Gujrat, Maharastra just because labour are cheap and un-unionised (that equate to having no labor rights) in those state. Nowadays no one in West Bengal would love get exploited and getting peanut in large manufacturing industries. So most the jobs in West Bengal are high quality public sector jobs in higher education and in small business. Bengal has excellent good growth in SME (small & medium scale enterprise), most of the business in Bengal are now in SME and 11% of Indians SME business are from Bengal. This is the trend in the modern world, where in most advance countries most of the business are in SME, while large scale low wage manufacturing are left for poorer third world country (for example in the Unites states nowadays 98% of business are SME while low wage manufacturing left for poor countries in Asia).
Also regarding poverty, who is rich in India ? even today (as of 2019), 40% Indian kids are malnourished and growth stunned as they are not properly fed due to poverty. West Bengal is doing much better in those areas than many there states in India. This report from central govt points to the the same direction.
I would rather believe in statistics published by Central Govt than BJP's story..!!!
>The condition of rural part of Bengal is really alarming. Whatever jobs people do in rural Bengal are mostly migrant workers in states like TN, Karnataka, Kerala, Maharashtra, Punjab, Goa….Bengal has now left with almost no industries and freebies provided by the current government is what which shows some what developmental results in certain criteria
What bullshit lol. You can't throw a stick in West Bengal without hitting a UP/Bihari migrant worker. More and More kids in Kolkata only speak Hindi now instead of Bengali. It's all Hindi migrants very few South Indian. Marathi and Punjabi migrants come to West Bengal for low income work ( a ton of south indians come for high income work like engineering and medical though) and no Goans go to west bengal for low income work that is such a ridiculous statement.
Bengal has the most skilled workers among all states in India. Even for goldsmiths in Mumbai and Gujarat, it's the Bengalis who are the best in the world.
Thanks to NITI ayog for publishing the detailed report. Both of these large states lag when we look at HDI . Gujrat is 23rd while West Bengal is at 26 th position anong all states which clearly indicates Gujrat' s model is 'K' shaped which widens the wealth gap between rich and poor with time while West Bengal model is mainly agricultural and 'K' driven (Kolkata). We citizens should urge both government to work towards meeting the world standard of HDI.
More than wealth inequality, the thing is Gujarat is great in economic indicators like GDP growth rate, Fiscal Deficit, Debt to GDP ratio, Manufacturing % to GDP but does lag comparatively in social indicators like education and healthcare.
Economic indicators and social indicators are two different things.
What do you mean by K shaped? Can you plot any K shaped curve?
There are multiple missing factors here:
Gujarat holds massive population of vegetarians who needs to eat more proteins.
Gujarat being an industrial state attracts more people from other parts of the country. Those obviously are carrying massive population of under poverty line.
There are more redistributive policies in West Bengal while Gujerat has higher net inequality as there is less welfare state
Not that I am a huge supporter of Gujarat state policies however to make a welfare state, the state needs to generate revenue as well which Bengal unfortunately doesn't
@@kenny87ification...The Economy of WestBengal is Thriving only on ReSale off RealEstate, Corruption, & ClubGundaRaj... With hardly any Industrial Development due too HartaI BreakDown the Industrial due to Strikes & LockUp in W.ß. ??
As compared too the Industry ln&Around Ahmedabad or even Vadodara only is more compared to whole off WestBengal...!!
The StepMotherly Treatment by NirMamta & the ComuniaI Leftist (CPIM) NaxaIGundaRaj is the Crux for the DownFall WestßengaI...!!
....ßengaIi Art, Cultural, Literature is almost Dead, with Religious Genocide due to Appeasement Politics off illegal MusIman Rohinaz & ßangIaDeshis lmmigrants Changed the Demographic off Westßengal because of PoliticalParties Nexus ...!!
It will be against Secularism if any off the media's or HumanRights Librandoos will Never SpeakOut against the PoIiticaI ViIonce WestßengaI just because TMC & CPlM are SecuIarParty...!!
@@kenny87ification Bengal has huge revenues with agro & mining & tea & MSMEs. Its just its consumption is more bcs 1•5 cr bimaru states ppls lives in Bengal for free education & healthcare & ration & other programs of Bengal.
@@surojeetchatterji9966 stop blaming the bimarus for everything ...
Why are bengali bhodroloks and kulin brahmins like you not having enough kids
@@surojeetchatterji9966 Well I don't understand why you are belittling someone else as BIMARU when the same Bangal has 30 to 40 lakh migrant workers
Selective truths, the unemployment in West Bengal is so high that it is becoming a state where only retired people are happy. Drinking water situation in WB is abysmal from water quality perspective.
Madam how can u expect Coupta ji to be unbiased !! he is clever in selective news....."Abbu nahi manenge"
Gujrat has worst quality water then bengal 😂😂😂
Official unemployment figure in West Bengal is only 4.8 %.
Also there are MORE good quality jobs in West Bengal than in any other state of India. But one has to do though higher education (College/University) track to get those jobs. Drinking water situation is not bad at all (except some areas that have problem of arsenic).
@@escee6280 Simply you don't know. Regarding migration of Labor: People always move, Bengalis goes to every parts of the world for search of better or new. That does not mean there is no jobs at home. Also remember Kolkata has the higher number inward migration of labor in India. Anyway most of the jobs in Bengal are geared towards higher education means you have to be higher educated to get those jobs. But that's not a problem, as higher education free for all resident of Bengal. We have very number of high quality Jobs (much more than other states) in public sector.
In business side, Bengal used to have all those large scale business and they moved to Gujrat, Maharastra just because labour are cheap and un-unionised (that equate to having no labor rights) in those state. Noways no one in Bengal would love get exploited and getting peanut in large manufacturing industries. So most the jobs in Bengal are geared towards higher education. But Bengal has excellent good growth in SME, most of the business in Bengal are now in SME and 11% of Indians SME business are from Bengal. This is the trend in the modern world, where most advance countries most business are in SME while manufacturing is for poor third world country (for example in the Unites states 98% of business are SME).
@@escee6280 NO village of India has any job except agriculture worker or some few panchayat jobs or 100 days work. This is true for all India. Remember in India merely 7% people (3% govt + 4 % private) has a REAL proper job, i,e a job that pays salary and some benefit and govt of Indian consider it as a real job, and rest of the 93% people do something or whatever). So it's not surprising that in India villagers are much poorer than cities.
But even in such bleak scenario, West Bengal has much more high quality good public sector job in large numbers (while counting I am not even considering temp jobs like civic police or parateacher etc). But most of the jobs in Bengal are geared towards higher education means you have to be higher educated to get those jobs. But that's not a problem, as higher education free for all resident of Bengal. So you look for job in village, soory that does not exist anywhere in India. Also regarding poverty, who is rich in India ? even today (as of 2019) 40% Indian kids are malnourished and growth stunned as they are not properly fed due to poverty. West Bengal is doing much better in those areas than many there states in India. This report from central govt points to the the same direction.
This is same as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka having better press index, happiness index and hunger index than India😂
West Bengal is part of Pakistan?
@@gauravdas6741did he say so?...he is giving an example....well better if you accept reality
@@gauravdas6741 East Bengal was part of Pakistan 😂
@@gauravdas6741 It no better than Pakistan in terms of economy and jobs
Sri Lanka is far ahead than India
You forgot to mention that west Bengal is largely a water rich state while Gujarat had pockets of deserts..
In that case he has also not mentioned that Bengal never recovered from the impact of partition ,neither he talked about draconian freight equalisation policy and licence raj regime of Congress which helped western and southern states at the cost of mineral rich eastern states. In effect due to freight equalisation policy eastern states had to subsidise others and neutralized their mineral assets
With a huge coastline like gujrat for trade dont make stupid excuses to portray any disadvantage 😂
@@bloodwargaming3662in Gujarat almost 98 Percent rural household have tap water and in bengal only 28 Percent
@@krunal_patel977 Lmao kitna jhuth bolega Bhai? It's so exposed. Literally video me khud dikhaya hai ki bengal me Jayda hai . You
B!tches really think Bengal me didi ko aise hi 50% vote milta hai
Gujarat workers should unionize more to get better pay both in Industries and farm. I cannot believe how much lower the wages are compared to other industrial areas. Farm laborers should not work for less than Rs 750 per day.
Shekhar Sir, With a gdp per capita of Rs 55000 which is about one-fifth of Gujarat, a reduction of 18.13 percentage points in headcount ratio with 2.25 crore people coming out of multidimensional poverty, Bihar at least deserved a footnote. Its staggering as well as disheartening to see how little media coverage Bihar gets in the national media including in yours. And whatever little there is , how does it always turn out to be negative !! Its as if nothing good is happening in the state and its just a basket case which only has a little value during elections. Atleast try and highlight the issues in the state from a constructive angle so that instead of demotivating the people of the state , it can give them HOPE. Bihar was to India and its people what India was to the world in the olden times ; Bihar is to the Indian media and people what India was to the world and global media maybe till the late 2000s and surely enough ; Bihar will be to India what India wishes to be of the world in the future.
Very well written 👍🏻
Bihar is Our hope . The Most hardworking people in the entire country . The Land of such rich culture and heritage needs more attention in National Level . Love from Tamil Nadu ❤
True, less you hear about Bihar. And all are bad reasons!
Hard working people, the youngsters who adopt the situation across India and make profit for their employers without any fuss. One day they will come in to fore but they need political change there otherwise it will continue not for long but for another 20 years .
Because of act east policy and projects
Gujarat of course needs to work on these indicators. But, when someone discusses numbers and compare percentages, it smells something. Easy recipe to fool people!
West Bengal used to be compared with states like Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. Now it’s being compared with Gujarat and after some time it will be compared with Bihar. It’s consistent downfall. West Bengal needs to focus on infrastructure and needs skill sets to attract FDI. No big brand is considering the state in spite of inherent advantages.
The communist mindset of Bengalis need to change. They are inherently anti capitalistic and always over glorify their absent cultural superiority. Ground reality should be accepted. 😊
Atleast we can feel safe in West Bengal. Security of life is far more important than economic progress.
@@salimjaved1890obviously you are safe from yourself and more so when you have little money. Try run a business
Only city dwellers feel safe in bengal.. Didi.. No more
Pardon me. Can you kindly elaborate the inherent advantages please? 🤣
W Bengal has plenty of water available perennially . So that must be making a big difference in rural areas.
There is a data test, and then there is the EYE TEST. Gujarat, Maha, TN, and Ktk offer much more opportunities than any other state in India. Standard of living wise Goa and Kerala (except some regions) are the best. India's true laggards are Bihar, Jharkhand (surprisingly, a mineral-rich state that never deserved to be a laggard), and WB (once a dominant force of human capital that has been dysfunctional for years).
The true laggards are UP and Bihar. WB's per capita income is 25% below national average which is bad for a large state but still not as bad as being Bihar or UP. UP's per capita income is less than half the national average, Bihar's is less than 1/3rd.
Bihar ka future mein kya hoga malum nahi lekin uttarpradesh 10-15 sal mein Bharat ka develop state ke sath khada rahega 👍👍moral of the story choose visionary leadership otherwise forget Bihar once upon a time Bengal was a developed economic prosperous state now look at the indicator
@@abracadabra42The Economy of WestBengal is Thriving only on ReSale off RealEstate, Corruption, & ClubGundaRaj... With hardly any Industrial Development due too HartaI BreakDown the Industrial due to Strikes & LockUp in W.ß. ??
As compared too the Industry ln&Around Ahmedabad or even Vadodara only is more compared to whole off WestBengal...!!
The StepMotherly Treatment by NirMamta & the ComuniaI Leftist (CPIM) NaxaIGundaRaj is the Crux for the DownFall WestßengaI...!!
....ßengaIi Art, Cultural, Literature is almost Dead, with Religious Genocide due to Appeasement Politics off illegal MusIman Rohinaz & ßangIaDeshis lmmigrants Changed the Demographic off Westßengal because of PoliticalParties Nexus ...!!
It will be against Secularism if any off the media's or HumanRights Librandoos will Never SpeakOut against the PoIiticaI ViIonce WestßengaI just because TMC & CPlM are SecuIarParty...!!
@@tigerking2742Facts
ha ha. Eye Test vs Data Test - This sums up what BJP and its fans do. They dont want to hear data. They want to see what is posted in Whatsapp an belive it
Population of WB is probably 2X than Gujarat that explains the percentage. As others pointed out Kolkata is an established city with all amenities for ages. WB went to poor from rich but Gujarat the other way round. I grew up in Kolkata I have seen it declining rapidly. SirG I would welcome you to visit Bengal and live at least a considerable amount of time. Bengal is blessed in many ways like availability of water, food, good connectivity, strategic location, etc. Bengal should do way better.
It should, because Gujarat is not blessed with natural resources like Bengal , Gujarat only has cotton..... West Bengal can be great but Bangalis first and foremost needs to oust Mamata
Your assessment about West Bengal is correct, but Gujrat has been a rich state for a very long time, in fact historically the 2 most richest provinces of India was Gujrat and Bengal because Gujrat was the trading hub and Bengal the agricultural hub. So Gujrat was a rich state which has remained rich where as West Bengal has seen a downturn in it's fortunes (but that is because of multiple reason like Partition, poor industrialization policies etc.)
@@aymanhaque6936 Even Punjab went through partition, but per capita income in Punjab is way higher than West Bengal
@@kenny87ification yes but they did not have one of the major industries of India like West Bengal did I.e. the Jute Industry, which suffered because of partition as raw material came from East Bengal and factories were located in West Bengal.
@@aymanhaque6936 Well I need to enlighten you that all the fertile lands of Punjab were in West and not in the East.... When Punjab was partitioned the Indian Punjabis tilled the land to make it more agriculturally productive, Bengal could have adopted a similar approach wherein they could have had land banks dedicated only for Jute cultivation
Comment section is projecting more sense than actual video. Hats off to you guys!!
Gujrat is also the state where most of the poor people migrate after Maharashtra.
WB is a state where there are huge migrant population from neighbouring states of UP,Bihar and Jharkhand. So these 'migrate' analogies are just like passing the bucks!!!! In fact most states face this, no biggie.
In fact without migrant labours Gujarat economy will not grow coz they need huge manpower for their industries and Gujraties can't do such labour intensive work. Hence migrant contributes to the growth story on the contrary. Hence it's a flawed analogy to again misguide and do the PR hype which has always been the case.
@@shaheermannan7540 I am not against migrant. But data says migrant workers have certain preference. And top 4 are Maharashtra, Delhi, Gujarat and Haryana. WB offers relatively lower wage and read many in Bengal are migrant workers. So my conclusion was it is difficult to reduce poor people percentage in a state where migrants are coming. You can also Google and confirm this.
@@kirankakade6705- that’s a new angle but the same logic doesn’t seem to hold good for States like TN and Kerala.
@@pichumanisankar2617 TN and Kerala is not been attractive option for immigrant workers. As they don't know the language and they have been paid less due to that. I remember I saw one news regarding that.
@@kirankakade6705What a joke. as per the statistics of 2022 in Gujarat, migrant workers on an average are paid to Rs.220 per day whereas in Kerala they are paid Rs.726 per day. That is more than three times per day. Kerala’s population is about three crore people and it is estimated that there are 31 lakh migrant workers in Kerala. I don’t know the statistics of Gujarat though.
There are no jobs in West Bengal 😢😢😢
I’m doing job in WB..even switched multiple times with comparable salary as richer state.If you have proper capability you will get good job.
@@avirupmallik4562 I already have a well paying job in Pune. And for the same work you do I will earn way more than you.
@@avirupmallik4562 Did you get 40%DA?I want to be a teacher .I am Waiting for SSC but they don't recruit .
@@Suvo719 there are lots of job other than trying for govt job.you can earn and invest and then you dont need DA.if you learn and want to know how to be rich you can have that doing private job also.Yes there is issue with politician but as bengali I feel we r the only ppl who doesnot even want there state to grow and give bad name always
@@arindamkumar7725 i can assure you what you save after earning lit I can save more here then you nay b having lower salary and I think end of the day thats matter more.Atleast to me
It is easier to fix Gujarat's poverty, than Bengal's business environment.
That is what Gujju think
@@sauron2000000 I don't know why do you hate Gujjus???? Wherever they have reached is because of their hard work
If it is so easy, then why they have not done it yet?
@@kenny87ification Wherever they have reached is because of unscrupulous practices and sucking others blood. You are a Bengali. In case you can understand Bengali, just watch Jana Aranya.
@@pratikdutta5438 They do not want to do it
The stats should also say how many poor people from Bengal migrated to Gujarat during this period. If migrants from WB, Bihar, NE keep pouring into Gujarat then how will Gujarat reduce poverty.
WB should also think the same way when it comes migrants from bihar up flocking to kolkata daily packed in trains looking for menial jobs
Similarly 30% population of wb is non Bengali, mainly from up and Bihar.. they migrated to Bengal for better opportunity..
Now imagine plight of Gujarat, where along with the UPites & Biharis, the bengalis migrate too 😂@@AnikMukherjee1989
In West Bengal, the government gives handouts to the poor and never invest in longterm development. Also corruption is rampant in WB and CTC never cared to talk about it.
Didi no more.. She is true demon..
@@homely6616 She is devil reincarnated.
@@skeptic3846 I agree.. She will survive 100 years..the darkest era of West Bengal
Mischivous attempt by SG to compare Gujarat vs W Bengal...the real target is Modi vs Mamta 😂
he got money from mullas to support their begum.
it's important to talk about the reality of West Bengal model vs Gujarat model given elections
he is using NITIAyog data. Unlike whatsup university , Data wont tell lies
bhakths don't want to to see facts
@@tvpuram Are you a parrot?
Smart analysis to give strength to a narrative which is taking Bengal down hill. Merely comparing figures is being economical with facts.
DEAR ANDH BHAKT, THIS NARRATIVE IS GIVEN BY MODI'S OWN NITI AYOG.
@@AmitKumarAlphaXdumbo shut the fuck up if you don't live in that state , West bengal is fucked up for long, young people are leaving the state for job , no progress at all ,violence happens every polling session , village level violence is not even reported , no industries at all ,
all worker union are infiltrated by tmc goons ,they don't let any company survive in bengal
@@AmitKumarAlphaXNITI ayog is not Modi's property. What the heck do you want to mean by Modi's NITI Ayog...??
@@saptarshiadhikary3736 BECAUSE IT'S AN ENTITY UNDER MODI ONLY. SAMAJH NAHI AA RAHA?? IQ LOW HAI???
@@AmitKumarAlphaXbsdk data to state governments hi provide krti hai na, agar tere bengal itnaa accha hai them why do millions of bengali works in our fields of haryana and punjab.
Did SG sir discuss about welfare schemes of West Bengal Vs Gujrat ?
I have a question here. Majority of young Bengali population are outside both in blue and white collar jobs. We jokingly call some areas of Kolkata and Howrah old age homes because kids are staying outside of WB. So the income of the population staying outside Bengal counts to the per capita income of WB or the state they are residing in.
Are you going to calculate the NRI incomes and add it to INDIA's GDP ?
GDP numbers generally count in the place they make money so it won't be in West Bengal. But when they send money back home and people spend the money on various things (food,housing,clothes,etc), that counts in the GDP of West Bengal.
@@CZcamsRajesh I really had a genuine doubt.. no need to be bitchy
per capita income of Gujarat in 2022 was ₹250,100.382 (US$3,220). This is an increase from the per capita income of ₹212,821.072 (US$2,690) in 2021. Gujarat has the 2nd highest per capita income in India, after Goa.
What we are seeing in NITI Aayog is simply a headstart advantage that West Bengal always enjoyed. It is an advantage that West Bengal is squandering away.
Gujarat grew up from the bottom. 80s and 90s Gujarat was a drought prone backwater like UP or Rajasthan today. Beset with political instability, lack of state institutions, obstructionism spearheaded by India's leftists and Andolanjeevis stunted it's growth. Things changed since the late 90s, political stability that BJP majorities brought, focused that State's resources to economic development. Much of the State is still Work in Progress and that's what we are seeing. And with more tax revenues and resources, I am confident that Gujarat will focus on those lagging indicators.
Contrast that with West Bengal, it was a rich state endowed with resources and infrastructure and blessed with educated urbanites and industrialists, created in 1947 - far earlier than some of our rich Southern states. But West Bengal's growth has stalled, political stability it enjoyed turned into autocratic violence. Any advantage West Bengal had was let to rot and atrophy. West Bengal is not beating Gujarat in MPDM indicators because it did something new or brilliant, but it is beating Gujarat because of institutions that were established prior generations ago are still somewhat functional.
Odissa is ahead of West Bengal, soon UP will surpass it as well. IMO, Odissa and Gujarat would be a better comparison but comparing Gujarat with WB is an editorial decision.
Side note: Besides, no State has made headway in it's poverty intensity indicators but I suspect it is still early days. MPDM is still a fairly new index. However, with such marginal decline across states, I doubt State Govts have anything to do with reduction in Poverty Intensity. Any reduction probably came from Centrally Sponsored Programs.
(And Yes, I spent 3 days reading through every detail in NITI Aayog report.)
Hmm, I'm not sure how much this data holds up because it sounds more like a narrative / story but if true... Then it would be a fair argument.
However, I'd like to point out -
1. The graphs and figures mostly show that Gujarat was ahead in most of the metrics but just isn't growing fast enough; while WB is a laggard state that has just been focusing more on Human Resource development.
2. Has Gujarat really been that poor? It's been the crown jewel of textile and gem export; now with huge oil refineries and big ports, with not even that bug a population... So I'm not sure that your wannabe David and Goliath story even stands up for real.
3. For the data at least it seems that the difference is not about capacity or starting points; it's about priorities. While you can see Gujarat has made huge improvements in GDP and industrial output; that's mostly benefiting only the upper section of society and poor people there remain to be a miserable undernourished bunch; frantically chanting modi modi for their PM who doesn't really seem to give a F about them once he got their votes pocketed. It's easy to sell this cock and bull story anyways.
WB on the other hand seems like it has been working to bring people out of poverty, at whatever expense. It's working at least. (For context, this is coming from someone who hated Mamta Banerjee, and I still dislike her. And I've been an avid supporter of BJP; but am less inclined to fall in the line of Andh Bhakts, especially after observing systematic dissemination of democracy one bill after another and this blatantly immortal/obnoxious way they are using their power and pushing polarizing elements in the forefront to break apart the harmony of our nation for their electoral gains like they did in Manipur.)
@@Shaurya_Pant the kind of master strokes Mamta di's doing is clearly indicated by the RBI report of 5 critical fiscal states and rest assured let the time come till 2040 the so called I.N.D.I.A alliance will be at each other's throat
This is between a timeframe which is in last 10 years . Sir with all due respect read the actual report sekhar has given the link .
@@Bengalifirst hope that bangils will not leave their state to get their ass kicked in other state
Reduced multiple dimensional poverty is largely due to the remittance by huge number of migrants working in other states, Gujarat in particular. The case is similar in Kerala where the remittance from people migrating to other countries especially Gulf region has helped in raising the average income level. State governments in both the states have absolutely no role in the increase in per capita income. It would have helped a lot if the governments in these states had come up with schemes and policies to build entrepreneurship and thus build a foundation for sustained growth of employment. Unfortunately the state governments repeatedly failed and continue to hoodwink the public by gimmicks.
Don't agree with your theory, affluent Bengalis move out of Bengal with families, there for they contribute to the economy of those perticular states, and if we talk about labour categories, how much do they earn? how much they can afford to remit? only 1.5 lacks labourers work out of Bengal to other states and Bengal have population of 10 cores, so how much difference can they make in Bengals per capita income? Kerala case is different because a very large populations work abroad, and they earn a large sum of money, there for they remit a huge sum of money, infact 70% of India's foreign remittances comes to India because of kerelites.
@@edwarddcosta8398💯True👍.
What a joke indeed ! Let's first feed your own people in Gujrat, they are hungry as your businesses pay so little wage to them thats why they can't feed themselves, which the reason for such poor index. And all big businesses in Gujrat are running their business in SEZ and not paying any corporate tax, extorting common workers and siphoning the money to foreign bank accounts. So naturally all this high gdp/capita gdp is true just on paper.
You need to have another century to even come close to human development with WB. And regarding business we don't do anymore low wage large manufacturing that we used to do all these 70 tears ago, nor we allow any SEZ that don't pay tax. It's bad for our workers and bad for our society. Our state earn huge revenue from great public sector businesses and from millions of SME and invest that money for common people and for free public service and create jobs. Naturally it not surprising we are ahead of economic and social indicators.
@@honeysupWB is No 2 in MSME. They are all in domestic tariff area paying taxes to the gov. Around 90 lakh MSME feeds 1.35 crore families in Bengal. Many are single man enterprise. The Nano factory in Sanand Gujarat at 1100 acres employs 4500 people whose average salary is between 12,000-15,000. Automobile industry doesn't generate employment. For every 2.5 crore investment, 1 person gets a job. Bengal model is diverse. Tourism contributes 13% of state GDP and employs 15 lakh people. Agricultural families are 71 lakhs. Bengal is always the top state in agricultural production for quite a few crops. Plus crop diversification, collective farming and non farming activities contribute a lot. IT industry is growing rapidly as well with new companies from abroad opening offices in New Town. Hope this helps!
I am no such expert but I can tell you with much certainty that half of the 11odd percentage of gujrat that are shown in below poverty are people from WB, Bihar and other states loving as migrants.
matter of fact is bengal needs to improve a lot , gujrat maybe 10-12 years ahead of bengal , WB dont have any big cities except kolkata
Gujarat dont have a single big city
@@sauron2000000 LOL what about Surat and Ahmedabad, have a look at their railway stations and you will be flabbergasted..... Also, Gandhinagar is all set to replace Mumbai as the next financial hub of India
You missed out Baroda
@@kenny87ification They are not bigger than Kolkata🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rajkot too
You cant compare WB and Gujarat, WB is rich in water while Gujarat is almost desert, so nutrition comparison cannot be made. Also the people above poverty line , people in Gujarat are much better off than WB.
What are the chances that this difference has a direct relevance to the majorly vegetarian diet in Gujarat and WB getting richer non-veg sources of protein. There needs to be studies on this.
Also don't forget at the time of Independence West Bengal was richer and more educated than Tamil Nadu. Now look at how one state has progressed.
When one feels very superior and brag at everyone that they are intellectually superior at every sentence..this what happens
WB is richest in earlier days. It became millionaire from trillionaiee and GJ is reverse!!!
In time West Bengal 's per capita income will be half of national average the way its government is functioning. Already govt staff are getting 30% less emoluments compared to central govt staff which is going to deteriorate further if govt policy of not paying DA continues. No heavy investment in industry have come to west bengal in the last decade and present industrial production has stagnated.It appears that Modi's govt is also unwilling to lend support for industrial revival of west Bengal as all new industries are going to south or west indian states or UP.
You are right , but mainstream media is oblivious
You are making valid points, but Coupta ji got his money to run his agenda to promote non - BJP givt
it is because mamata is not giving state incentives to industries
Cooking gas , Housing for poor and clean water schema are run by Central govt and these are the indicator use in this report. So can you say that central govt is not supporting WB ??
Bengal don't need heavy industries or large manufacturing. That days are gone. Nowadays no one in Bengal would love get exploited and getting peanut in low wage large manufacturing industries. Bengal used to have all those large scale business and they moved to Gujrat, Maharastra just because labour are cheap and un-unionised (that equate to having no labor rights) in those state. Bengal has excellent good growth in SME, most of the business in Bengal are now in SME and 11% of Indians SME business are from Bengal. This is the trend in the modern world, where in most advance countries most business are in SME while manufacturing is for poor third world country that uses cheap labour and pay low wage (for example in the Unites states 98% of business are SME). Also there are more high quality good job in public sector in Bengal than in any other state of India. But those jobs are more geared to higher education. But that's not a problem as higher education is free in Bengal and accessible for all of its resident.
I will take higher per capita income and job creation over improvement in some bureaucratic index on poverty. But why are these the choice on offer ? Why can't our political parties run efficient governments that can focus on generating growth while delivering essential services to the poor.
PS : I just checked the jal jeevan mission portal, there it says Gujarat is at 100% , having completed connecting rural homes with taps. West Bengal is shown at less than 40%. While this index says 8% people have to walk more than 30min. Is this a data problem more than an income paradox, just a thought.
well said
Thats very true. If one takes out the Top 1000 (or even 100) earners out of the Gujarat List, per capita income of crores of Gujaratis might be less than West Bengal's. And the support they receive from State and community might also be lower than in WB.
@@jusmeetsingh1907 Unlikely as Gujarat has a very large number of registered SMEs. I know people like to hate on Gujarat because of its politics, but the state has a very robust economy. It does have the disadvantage of a large desert and relatively large tribal population {tribal populations are generally less economically integrated because of the way our laws are structured} that greatly impacts inequality.
@@joshua_ch right idots complain about economy first but gujrat has bigeer economy then these idiots complain about per capita gujrat again has bigger per capita now these idiot leftits will take out first 1000 and all that to show bengal is better than gujrat lol
Thats very logical what you said, provided that gdp/capita is true.
It seems this high GDP/capita of Gujrat is true just on paper, while the common Gujrati don't have access of that excess money. How it's possible ? This is possible because this gdp or gdp/capita bump of Gujrat is partly due to (a) investment (private) in infrastructure where the ports, road are leased to businessman (b) party due to big manufacturing business owned by big business houses that pays peanuts to workers and own the lion share of that money. These although increases the and gdp and gdp/capita figures on paper but in reality common people dont have access of that money not their per capita income is increased, rather its those big business whose income increased many fold. It means that gdp/capita income does not reflect the true per gdp/capita of Gujrat. It actual value is much lower. Thats the real reason that all this indexes are low for Gujart because common people are at all not rich as falsely displayed by higher gdp/capita number.
There is a saying. how to lie with statistics and data. Also if one tortures data hard and long enough, one can get the result one is looking for. this illustrates your episode today. State of Gujarat, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Maharashtra in terms of industrialization, jobs generation is much much better than WB, regardless of what you say. Just look where educated people of state of WB are going for jobs ? it's Bengaluru, Pune, Gujarat, Chennai. that, gives the whole picture
Can you read? He’s talking about social indicators and you’re talking about industrialisation - north and south!
If I tell you Virat Kohli is a good batsmen, you’ll say no but he is not a good actor so he’s bad.
Lol
@@gomezmilkin340 if there is NO job, there is nothing. what kind of society is he talking about when no one died during assembly polls in Gujarat, where as so many die during Panchayat polls. It's typical media trying to project their favorite leader by cherry picking facts to suit their agenda
@@gomezmilkin340 And you think those "civic volunteers" beholden to Ghas-phool aren't fudging the data? Governance in WB is a joke, has been for 50+ years now. And in the past 20 years government corruption is sky high. Who do you think collects the "HDI" data - clue - it is not Modi or Shah - it is WB govt led staff - with the associated agenda to fudge.
Gujarat's average annual rainfall is between 578-1107mm, parts of the state are actual deserts. Bengal's is 1439-2739mm, Why the heck is WB having a drinking water quality issue ? Where do you think all those cheap labour in Gujarat, Kerala, Karnataka, Western UP, Haryana etc are coming from - definitely noy their own - it is from basket case states like Bihar and Bengal.
Guess education of Bengalis has given t hem so much arrogance that they've lost tract of basic common sense and rational thinking!
@@gomezmilkin340 I am Bengali and I know for a reason that outside of Kolkata there is nothing exist in Bengal and we Bengalis are tired of such situation.
the problem is, if Bengal is such a paradise and GJ is such a sh*thole, why is it that Bengalis migrate in hordes to GJ but not the other way around. Infact barely a few 100s gujaratis migrate to WB@@gomezmilkin340
Really very interesting informations......it seems wealths are getting accumulated in pockets not trickling down evenly in Gujarat ...
2nd I see people here talking about migrant workers....did they know total migrant workers, from Gujarat to outside India, whom we say NRIs are much much higher than Bengal...so does that mean Gujarat has less employment opportunities and that's why so many people are outside India?
Gujarat has spent high on Capex and West Bengal on distribution of cash. The returns on capex comes late but gives a higher return. So check the data after 5 years.
SG spreading sickular news , and i am a bangali :)
I don't find any video of WB panchayat election violence in the print.why ignoring these political violence ?
Ask any young chap, where will he prefer a job, West Bengal or Gujarat? Answer is very clear.
Yes, migrant population increase poverty, take case of Maharashtra huse influx from North India ,Bengal , Bangladesh , Nepal , Few Baluchi looking population also visible on foot path of Pune railways station road , Byculla footpath, few district of southern neighbour .Most of Minister From earst while rulling party in Maharashtra which ruled for decades settled miniority communities from Bangladesh and changed demographics of Panvel , Kalwa , Mumbra, Byculla , Now Pune Kondhwa , Auragabad , Sudden influx in cities like Dhule is also noticeable. God save us we are going to be next Assam .
Very true Brother.. When I cam to Pune City in 2002 Railway station was so clean n empty... In 2018 I again got opportunity to come to Pune.. and visited Railway station late at 2 a.m. it was Full of people sleeping outside the station... Even Pune weather has changed because of the sudden growth in Population.. sad thing is Infrastructure has not kept pace with it.. even today we don't Full operational metro which was proposed before banglore metro .. I guess in 2008.
9:13 Vegetarianism in Gujarat: 61%, In Bengal: 1.4%
So?
@@pratikdutta5438He's providing an explanation for the poor nutrition standings. Vegetarians need more supplements/expenses to meet nutrition requirements for certain nutrients.
@@sudharshankomandur4118 Really? where did you learn that? Where do you think nutrient in animals come from? The moon? What supplements are you talking about? And why would vegetables cost more than meat or fish products unless the latter is getting hidden subsidy more than what is given to crops? Get some basic ecological knowledge dude.
@ei-mati Easy tiger was talking about "certain" nutrients.
Omega 3 fatty acids are richer in animals as opposed to plant based foods. That's why this shortfall usually requires supplements like Cod Liver Oil.
Pulses/dals are protein sources their concentration is lower than that in non veg food or eggs (compare 100 gm dal vs 1 egg). That is as you would call it "basic" "ecological" knowledge?...I'd probably call it "dietary" knowledge. Soya is a rich alternative (but expensive compared to dal). Also expense is not kg v kg, it's about quantity needed to fulfill nutrition.
I don't know what's wrong with your day...but you don't have to assume that the world is full of idiots.
@@sudharshankomandur4118 bhaiya - your patient explanations are wasted - huff in their starting comments conveys these two charlies are here not to discuss but to battle - your responses just give their existance a momentary spark of affirmation, that's all. Best just ignore them - you have your life experience and they have their sorry trolly selves - sab khush raho apne apne mein.
A major reason of this is that since 2010s migration to Gujarat has increased and thus the increase in BPL. This will change in a other decade when these migrant families comenoht of poverty. There was always migrants in Gujarat but that incread since 2010s because if the increased growth under NaMo. In fact Surat is the most cosmopolitan city in India by leaps and bounds much ahead of any Metro city. More than half of Surat's population is non-Surti. Surtis are a minority in their own city.
bhai migrants gujarat jake waha ki gdp ko bhi to contribute karte hai ki bengal ki?
@sahiltripathi8579 yahan poverty ki baat ho rahi hai. It takes time for wealth redistribution. And then when those migrants are well on monetary path, there's even more migrants and the cycle goes on.
Sir
andigarh r num 1.
delhi num 2
sikkim num 3.
Chandigarh is 1 or 4
haryana num 5
Karnataka num 6
maharashtra is num 7.
Tamilnadu num 8
Andaman n Nicobar island num 9
Gujarat num 10
Most cosmopolitan is gurugram
@@FreeYourImagination ye kaha ki theory hai it takes time for wealth redistribution? sarkar pe hai begal ki karrahi gujrat ki nahi.. begal ki population bhi to zyada hai Gujarat se to absolute terms me wha to or mushkil hai poverty reduction kaisi baatein kar rahe ho bhai. or up ka batao fir migrants to up Bihar sebhi jate honge tab begal hi kyu gujarat se better hai ye states kyu nahi bhala ? policies sehi to na.
@sahiltripathi8579
Please learn how redistribution of wealth comes around before making a fool out of yourself.
I can not discuss it with someone with no knowledge of economics.
You are free to continue. I rest my case.
Main reason is people from many parts of the country go to Gujrat for work but hardly pwople go to Bengal
Gujrat population is 7 crors ;West Bengal population is 10 crores. Gujrat area is twice of West Bengal.
Gujarat is at the Exact same Spot where Industrialized Nations of World in 1914 were -The US, Germany and the UK etc with Poverty, Malnutrition, Unequal Wealth etc, But they Progressed With Time becoz of Large Manufacturing Base and Gujarat will head the Same Path, But Does WB have any Guarantee Becoz it Doesn't have any Large Industrial Base, World Class Infrastructure, Capital etc like Gujarat and Should have also Stated that Gujarat's Just Merchandise Exports in 2022 is a Huge $ 147 Billion Dollars, Or Simply 1/3 of All of India's Total Merch Exports, It ahows Gujarat's Huge Industrial and Manufacturing Power ,And Gujarat has almost same number of Billionaires at 86 to Germany at 100, This Shows Huge Gujarati ENTREPRENEURSHIP
it is the HDI which is more important than number of billionares. Nordic countries are considered as the best in the world not because of number of billionares, it is because of their high HDI
GDP is different than percapita
1914? are you saying your going to start ww3?
@@MathewJohn-gj5xnkerala has higher HDI than gujarat, why is it then that the educated youth of kerala are not staying back in kerala and helping propel the state forward? What forces these educated yluth to find jobs in UAE, europe, usa or in other states outside kerala? Doesnt the high HDI of gods own country compensate for everything else? Why would the youth of kerala prefer working their asses off in the dubai heat under a islamic emirati regime instead of wnjoyung the cool weather of the communist utopia that is kerala?
So Gujarat will be responsible for WW3.
India should be noticed that plenty of water is present in WB and other eastern states. So they have better future if pursued.
An unemployed knows better how worse situation West Bengal has.
Kolkatta has the metro city lol it was historically a powerful port and yet SG had to come up with a story comparing guj and wb
Not to forget WB has Kolkata which has 3rd largest GDP next to Mumbai and Delhi, despite many states having big IT companies. I am sure if WB in general and Kolkata in particular starts having more investment, none of the state or city can catch. Kolkata is one of the most underrated city and has huge potential (evident from the GDP numbers).
Nevertheless government needs to do much more and anti WB/Kolkata propaganda also another reason for downfall.
More branding needs to be done just like Gujarat. PR hype and marketing is also key factor for the growth and attracting investments.
How do u think investment will come when u actively throw out companies coming to your state.
Pr is important and we are populous state with very limited expensive land so I don’t think big industry is possible but I think we can create knowledge based economy rather than manufacturing.
@@sna-xn8lu...The Economy of WestBengal is Thriving only on ReSale off RealEstate, Corruption, & ClubGundaRaj... With hardly any Industrial Development due too HartaI BreakDown the Industrial due to Strikes & LockUp in W.ß. ??
As compared too the Industry ln&Around Ahmedabad or even Vadodara only is more compared to whole off WestBengal...!!
The StepMotherly Treatment by NirMamta & the ComuniaI Leftist (CPIM) NaxaIGundaRaj is the Crux for the DownFall WestßengaI...!!
....ßengaIi Art, Cultural, Literature is almost Dead, with Religious Genocide due to Appeasement Politics off illegal MusIman Rohinaz & ßangIaDeshis lmmigrants Changed the Demographic off Westßengal because of PoliticalParties Nexus ...!!
It will be against Secularism if any off the media's or HumanRights Librandoos will Never SpeakOut against the PoIiticaI ViIonce WestßengaI just because TMC & CPlM are SecuIarParty...!!
Ig state Government is responsible for such activities.
Anti WB Kolkata propaganda ? After 34 years of left rule, the next govt. threw out the most reputed brand of India, just to gain power, why should any sane investor come to West Bengal after that? Our reality is worse than any propaganda.
My theory : Gujarat's riches are skewed in the hands of a few and therefore it has such a high per capita and yet is worse off than a state that's struggling to create jobs. WB needs to reinvigorate its industrial base and create jobs.
Yes, 90 % of people compare it to West Bengal.
Who are the poor in Gujarat,. Migrant labour from Bengal, Bihar, Orissa etc. They are counted as people from Gujarat.
You are an idiot. In large statistical studies such things are considered.
many businesses in WB run by Marwadi and those business also generate many jobs in WB
😂😂Least Developed Bengal and So called High Developed Kerala are Both Exporting Labour, One to Industrial States lIke Guj and Maha et. one to The Gulf Regions 😂😂 But Gujarat and Maharashtra are Increasing Their Huge Industrial Manufacturing Complex With Pro-Bussiness Policies, World Class Infrastructure and Massive Foreign Investments and Gujarat is at the Exact same Spot where Indutrialized Nations of World in 1914 were-The US, Germany and the UK etc with Poverty, Malnutrition, Unequal Wealth etc, But they Progressed With Time becoz of Large Manufacturing Base and Gujarat will head the Same Path, But Does WB have any Guarantee Becoz it Doesn't have any Large Industrial Base, World Class Infrastructure, Capital etc like Gujarat and Should have also Stated that Gujarat's Just Merchandise Exports in 2022 is a Huge $ 147 Billion Dollars, Or Simply 1/3 of All of India's Total Merch Exports, It ahows Gujarat's Huge Industrial and Manufacturing Power ,And Gujarat has almost same number of Billionaires at 86 to Germany at 100, This Shows Huge Gujarati ENTREPRENEURSHIP
No one migrates to west bengal for employment , but tons of people come to gujarat, gujarat is importer of poor people
The eating habits play a part- w Bengal ( fish diet) vs Gujerat( mostly ( vegetarian diet).
How come every other poor person in cities you find is bengali ?
I come from Maharashtra and it's a fact Whether it's Mumbai, thane, pune, nashik, nagpur pick any place and the maximum number you will find are from Bengal. Not much of Gujarati ? And curious to know how many people from other states can mention any other major cities from West Bengal then Kolkata ? Every 2nd women in prostitution comes from West Bengal and it's a fact, look at the no. of people arrested in these rackets and you will find those women from W.B, not just Maharashtra even in goa you find after UP and bihar maximum no. Of people doing minion jobs are from Bengal. Curious to know when SG visited bengal last time and saw any change in that state ?
May be they are from Bangladesh...and you mistake them with west bengali
I am also from MH and most of the poor people I come across are usually from UP. I guess Yogi ji isn't as good a CM as people say he is.
Illegal trafficked mainly from Bangladesh, Nepal,Bhutan,northeastern states
@@rupamazumdar3437 he's salty coz his mom was caught doing prostitution in goa for free...but later released as the man she was with was her bf from bengal
Gupta ji, common ! We too can read the numbers. We look for answers, not reading the numbers which we too can do! The question is WHY? Why this counter-intuitiveness? What is the most powerful explanation for this counterintuitive results which is a) theoretical and b) logically consistent to explain.
Pogo dekh bhai. Wahin samajh aayega.
@@SumitPalTube sure prabhuji. Thank you.
@@aa1z00 You are welcome. If you want any more suggestions, I have a lot of free time.
@@SumitPalTube Thank you prabhuji. Me too, thats why travelling around the world all the time & watching Guptaji.
The multi dimensional poverty index is pretty good for comparison between states and countries.
1. The per capita income in Gujarat is high because there are probably more Crorepatis and Lakhpatis. It could also mean that the income gap is wider.
2. The cost of living in an urban area is higher than in a rural area. Earnings do have a correlation with the standard of living and quality of life, along with dependents. So it would be relevant to indicate what is the income below which a family is considered below the poverty line in rural and urban for each state.
3. As someone mentioned West Bengal sees a lot of remittances. Gujarat does not.
4. There are societal issues that come into play that the govt has no control of. There have been reports that girl education is lagging in Gujarat.
Ultimately despite this analysis that praises West Bengal, much to the glee of SG, the question is, is a person better off in Gujarat or in West Bengal. I would think the answer is Gujarat.
West Bengal has exported poverty to richer states. Howmany people have migrated from WB to Gujrat; howmany among them live below the poverty line?
This could indicate an inverse link between inclusive growth and rapid per capita growth of a state. Gini coefficient data of RBI (2004-05) shows that Gujarat, Andhra etc are more unequal than poorer states likes Bihar specially in rural sector. So, if you grow fast, the wealth is more likely to be unequally distributed and vice-o-versa.
What are you smoking??
Gujarat has Lowest in gini co efficient and better condition than most of indian states
Nominal gdp means nothing in terms of standard of living. We should focus more on IHDI & median gdp per capita.
You forgot that bengal had a gift like kolkata. Gujarat don't have. Capitalism is the best way. If government supporting businessman, industrialist are good.
And I'm not a Gujarati. But visited there. There women can walk on the street even after 10 PM.
It would have been more insightful to know if the freebies each government dole out and its impact on the comparative figures.
True
Freebies are costing the state's own GDP :) . I mean freebies aren't effective in the long term. :).
Does shekhar want to talk about the state of electoral democracy and human rights in gujarat vs west bengal? Or are such topics relevant only if it can be used to target the ruling national party?
Do brainwashed people actually have any freedom?
Read "1984" by George Orwell and try to follow independent journalism in India, when it is barely alive.
Also, why would he want to target the ruling party, especially in a political climate like this? You're really than dumb or just brainwashed to oblivion?
sure 2002 was a marvelous example of human rights in india and manipur was 👀
And MAMATA saying some kids did a little mischief while raping Suzette Jordan in Park Street@@ahana809
finally some good news from WB.
Are the outliers discounted while calculating per capita?
What is population density of West Bengal and Gujarat? Population per square kilometre area
This data does not capture the following:
1. What percent of the population of West Bengal is working out of the state and earning livelihood
2. How the data has been normalized - West Bengal's population density way higher than that of Gujarat
Else this data may give rise to a misconception that welfare schemes (read freebies) in WB are bringing people out of poverty. The ruling govt in WB will certainly propagate that message
Welfare Schemes do help the poor. You r not poor to understand that. People living out of West Bengal is a foolish factor to consider
gdp/capita is already normalized. Also Kolkata has the higher inward migration of labor within India. So do we need to subtract them from Kolkata population ? of course not. Whoever go to some state and live & work there, he/she became the resident of that state for all official purpose (pay property tax, income tax there). So this data is perfectly ok and at all not surprising. Also in theory if migration to a economically active region (e.g here Gujrat), depressed and lowers the indicators of that region, then most likely it is not actually such an economically active region.
Mr. Shekhar Gupta. This is know as picking data selectively and comparing Apple and Organges. Percapita income of 2.5 lakh. Double than WB. U can feel it when u take a tour of Both dtates
the wall built in Gujarath during VIP visits will tell a lot than these analysis
@@tvpuramso??
even USA has slums and poor people and bengal has more slums and poor than gujarat
@@krunal_patel977 but they won't be building walls?
@@tvpuram I don't know go ask them
@@krunal_patel977 basically you answered...it was all shitholes, and they need to cover it..that's all
Bengal has constant outflow of Below poverty line and whilst Gujrat has constant inflow of below poverty migrants , so much so that almost majority of workforce is migrants ...hence underlying base isnt same ... Analysis isn't flawed but without details
West Bengal is the 2nd largest fish producer and 4th largest poultry producer in India.
One important question here is 'who' are these people who live below poverty line in Gujrat who are falling behind the minimum standards of Education, Health and Nutrition. If these people are migrant workers and their children who are from Bihar, UP , MP , Jharkhand , Chhattisgarh , Rajasthan who migrated to Gujrat then its not really a failure of Gujrat but the failure of their governments in their home states. If the local Gujrati population is better off then that means the state government has done its primary job. After all you can't expect them to take care of the poor people of entire country who migrate there. If you move all the poor people from India to Switzerland then you will have a situation with millions of people living in poverty in Switzerland as there is no way the swiss government can handle it. Not a lot of people migrate to Bengal to work so most of the people in Bengal below poverty line must be local people.
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@@sauron2000000...The Economy of WestBengal is Thriving only on ReSale off RealEstate, Corruption, & ClubGundaRaj... With hardly any Industrial Development due too HartaI BreakDown the Industrial due to Strikes & LockUp in W.ß. ??
As compared too the Industry ln&Around Ahmedabad or even Vadodara only is more compared to whole off WestBengal...!!
The StepMotherly Treatment by NirMamta & the ComuniaI Leftist (CPIM) NaxaIGundaRaj is the Crux for the DownFall WestßengaI...!!
....ßengaIi Art, Cultural, Literature is almost Dead, with Religious Genocide due to Appeasement Politics off illegal MusIman Rohinaz & ßangIaDeshis lmmigrants Changed the Demographic off Westßengal because of PoliticalParties Nexus ...!!
It will be against Secularism if any off the media's or HumanRights Librandoos will Never SpeakOut against the PoIiticaI ViIonce WestßengaI just because TMC & CPlM are SecuIarParty...!!
As per NCRB data net in migration in Bengal is much higher than out migration from Bengal.... So don't be fooled by media about how it projects Bengal and come to reality national statistics are different
The people living below the BPL in gujarat are local Gujjus. Except for 3-4 cities, most of Gujarat, especially the rural Gujarat is quite poor.
@@ashishnair136 Do not speak the truth. Gujarat model will be offended.
Share migration data also, do any gujrati move to bengal and how many poor Bengalis and Bihari who actually count on this data come to Gujrat, actually gujrat is helping Bengal by taking in its poor people and on a way Bengal improves it's figures by thi favour of gujrat, ll
Lots of Gujarati reside in West Bengal and that too for many generations. They made their money in bengal😊
Not to say West Bengal is doing great. They are doing bad as far as industrialisation is concerned but human development index and GDP does not go hand in hand.
A huge amount of Gujarati and Marwari live in Bengal... Bengal is a net importer, because of 1.5 crore UP, Bihar, Jharkhandi comes here as migrant labour..
@@mrinmoyM1998 we are comparing gujrat and poor Bengal not jahrkhand or Bihar, secondly each marwadi can buy 50 Bengalis, bengali are job seeker, marwadi are job giver, that's the difference, gujrat takes in all the poor people from Bengal so that bengal improves it's dara
@@90skiyaadein69 if Bengal was so poor then then it would not have been 6th in NET GDP and 60% of kolkata's population would not have became Non-Bengalis......
Sir, there is a dearth of jobs in west bengal. So a lot us have migrated to other states. Can also that be factored in ?
I don't understand why the anchor keeps saying its Modi government's data. If you don't trust the data then you should not try to draw any conclusions based on it. It's the Indian government data for the year 2023.
Shekharji, please make an episode on why so many are killed around election time in west Bengal.
2018 panchayat - 87 killed
2023 panchayat - 59 killed till now, and counting
SG has started his canvassing for next election for the Maha gatbandhan.
Gujarat is all Gas it’s just some cities and some rich people and nothing else the life of poor people that is more than 60% is suffering and hardship without much respite from the state
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It is shame to compare WB & GJ. I feel sad to see West Bengal’s situation when Bengalis are known to be intellectuals of the country and many are in responsible roles for progress of the others states. Common WB, let them work for the state.
Self proclaimed intellectuals. Without British, Bengal would have been in stone ages even today....
Even if the "%" of people below the poverty line is the same, the real figures would be drastically different given that WB has a much higher population base than Guj.
How Bengal has beaten Gujrat? This is unbelievable. I know Bengal sitiluation. I am a Bengali working in Bangalore. Hope Bengal does better. Bengal is important for India. Hope Bengalis realize that..
Gujarat is a classic model of neoliberal economics with a very small section of population equipped with an enormous amount of resources. Having visited Gujarat (Somnath, Dwarka, Ahmedabad, Gandhinagar) a few weeks ago, I honestly saw a lot more dirt and poor quality infrastructure in Ahmedabad there than in my own Tier-2 city of Bhubaneswar. Of course high rises dot Ahmedabad's skyline but Indians need to understand skyscrapers do not alone control level of progress. Human-oriented developmental measures are equally important and social indicators need to be highlighted more often in the narrative of development.
Haha odisha gdp 110 billion $
Ahmedabad alone has 110 billion dollar gdp
Check literacy rate unemployment rate per capita income your odisha nothing in front of gujarat
Also check svchata sarvekshan Ranking Ahmedabad is in top 20 and in 2020 ranking Ahmedabad in top 10 and you don't talk about infrastructure even in odisha most of rural village don't have tap water access check Farmers income gujarat rank 6 th in country your odisha not in the picture
And gujarat has poor quality infrastructure then why your people from odisha come to gujarat for labour jobs ??
To know what's happening in Bengal with real data watch the below video link. This video completely missed the fact that the poor had to migrate from Bengal to industrialised state. Also there are lakhs in Bengal from outside India for which niti ayog might not have any data.
czcams.com/video/IwXhcOTjFt8/video.html
I am gujrati
Gujarat have to much migration from north India
Kabhi lagta hai ki hum up Bihar me hai
Ahmedabad, Surat 50% population is
migrant from north
West Bengal largest rice producer in India and 2nd largest vegetable producer. It is the largest jute producer in India producing 90 percent of total jute.
Looks like trickle down economics not working in Gujrat. Modiji should focus a little more on revdi for poor people instead of rich class.
Lot of People from Bengal is working in Kerala and other Southern states mainly in the construction Industry...bringing in lot money to the state..
Kerala has no industries. Why will anyone migrate to such state?
Bengalis work in Hyderabad and Bangalore.
@@agonnoga6100construction.
Myre pode, Malyali working as a labour in other states,
@@agonnoga6100Service sector and construction sector mainly housing.
@gauravdas6741 lol! You think Bengalis have the physique for coolie work?? These are migrants from Assam and illegal Bangladeshi immigrants who perform such jobs.
Bengalis are solely into service jobs particularly in Bangalore, Hyderabad, Pune and Gurgaon.
Excellent analysis and presentation.
We are very diverse nation but governance and management of things can't be diverse. It's reflects only a better governance or a less focused one.
West Bengal 2nd largest tea producer of India ; alone produces 25 percentage of total production.
I also fail to see choice of states for this comparison! Gow was rate of improvement in bihar or UP ?
India’s revenue devolution model practically distributes hard working taxpayers money based on population to states. So states have options to distribute freebies instead of real economic and infrastructure development. States like West Bengal doing that a lot along with unhealthy level debt increase. This may show some short term progress in few aspects of multidimensional poverty but I am no sure that is the model we want to promote
Nothing is free bee..more people means more consumption so these states collect higher GST...all developed country provides free education, quality hospitalisation etc..this is a modi govt narrative..we all pay tax..
The moral is that while Gujarat may be looking at the glitter, it also needs to look at it’s dark side.
Someone commented that development in Gujarat is restricted to making money. Care to expand on that sweeping judgement?