If I were to want to use the WeBoost in both the trailer RV and the tow vehicle, I would set up the WeBoost permanently in the trailer with a hotspot. A hotspot will easily transmit WiFi over 100 feet to nearby vehicles, even if they are driving near the trailer vehicle.
Love your videos. I wrote to tell you that hexagonal objects are hexagonal so that they don't roll. An antenna load could roll off the roof during installation, so it's hexagonal. GOOD idea....
This is complete nonsense. The antennas are hexagonal because the omnidirectional antenna elements are on each face to give it 360 degree coverage. It's not like you are going to have the antenna on your roof just rolling around...that's patently absurd. Even if you did just lay it on the roof, it would attenuate the signal a great deal, so it wouldn't make any sense at all.
Thanks for the review Brian. One thing no one mentions, is that these units are supposed to be registered with the FCC through your phone carrier, and not all carriers will support that, MVNO’s in particular. These antennas signal boosters can interfere with emergency services.
Charlie Calhoun I don’t think so. As I understand it, your carrier automatically tracks you anyway so notification shouldn’t be required. I would call your cell phone carrier to make sure they are on board with supporting a booster.
@@copperzepher6872 Whenever I've registered a booster, I just use my home location and never updated it as we've traveled. Also, I haven't registered any new boosters in a few years even though I've switched out several new ones during that time for testing/reviews. Everything still works. I'm on Verizon by the way.
As always Brian, excellent explanations. Regarding WE's response to 5G, what they were implying is that their amplifier does not reach the 24-52 GHz millimeter upper 5G frequency range. Even covering the 4G (600 MHz to 2.5 GHz) and lower end of the 5G frequency band is quite an accomplishment (the lower 5G band frequency spectrum runs from 450 MHz to 6 GHz). But even if designing such an amp was economically feasible, other engineering problems would still prevent dual-use up high in the millimeter band. Considerations include: frequency response range of the cable, discontinuities (impedance mismatches) in connectors, impedance mismatches between cables/antenna/amplifier, etc. Standing wave power losses would also likely create havoc as the frequency goes up. In fact this article regarding cell tower design problem for millimeter 5G gear illustrates using photonics (fiber optics) rather than traditional coax as a solution: www.nature.com/articles/srep19891 Sorry to get geeky - suffice it to say that the upper 5G mm band will not be a slam dunk ;-)
You should also mention the fact that the effective range of those frequences is quite short compared to the lower frequencies... so boosting 5G mmWave isn't really practical. Where 5G mmWave excels is in cities with lots of micro-cells for very localized coverage. It's not really meant for long range, wide open areas.
I bought one model before and had lots of problems with feedback. No matter how far I separated ant and amp. Fixed it by getting the truck version antenna, I see why they replaced the original one which would never work right. They weren't very helpful when I called them. It does work now. Not the greatest but works. I wouldn't buy again.
I currently have the drive sleek for my tow vehicle with the small roof top antenna. Recently while camping (boondocking) I removed it from the truck, and plugged it into my homemade solar generator. I took the small antenna and placed it onto my old Colman stove and placed it in the middle of the campsite on a table. So, not very high. We had very little signal at this location. Some texts would come and go. With this “campsite” set up I put my iPhone in the cradle and used it as a hotspot. My wife and I were both able to use our iPads. Still a wee bit slow but I was able to watch YT vids easily. SO, I now see that WeBoost has another set up for the drive sleek with the new antenna that you have there. I’ve ordered it and will be installing this week. (Temp install on external pole). I was going to run the cable into my wet bay through the opening in the floor and connect to the satellite input, then hook up the booster inside the RV behind the TV to in inside satellite port. I have all the required connectors and adaptors. My iPhone will be the hotspot in the cradle. The cradle has ample cord to move around the RV and even outside under the canopy. We should have ample signal,from the hotspot for this to work. iPhone says up to 30 feet. I’ve never seen anyone use the satellite ports (RG6 with F connectors) before. Curious if this will work. So I don’t have to drill any holes or go through the windows etc. I really would love your input on this. THANKS.
Another great video, and many thanks since we actually just purchased this booster! But on another note, on the last question, "Will this booster work with 5G?", the response from WeBoost was MISLEADING, and I was disappointed that this issue was not clarified. The question that was being asked was, 'Will this booster USE the 5G network when it becomes available?" and the answer is "NO". Instead of being honest about this, WeBoost chose to answer a different question: "Will this booster continue to work when 5G becomes available?". They tried to keep the water muddy by saying, "..currently we aren't boosting mmWave." like anyone would know what that means. What it means is that the answer to the first question is "NO" this booster doesn't work with 5G in the way the question was intended but 4G will continue to be available for many years to come.
DoN't Bee bOOSten that 5G signal. ThATs hOW you get Rona! In all seriousness thanks for such a thorough video. it's good to know you can pair it with the directional antenna 🤔
One of the best tech videos I've seen on anything, RV or otherwise. You covered it all and didn't waste time with a long musical intro, you moved along fast. I just bought and installed this today, fyi.
Added power doesn't equal added range. These frequencies are line of sight, (height = distance) more power only makes your signal better on the receiving end of thing, range isn't increased.
Great video as always!!!! I have learned more from your videos than any other source. I have copied your batteries, solar chargers, solar panels, and 12v to 12v charging, est. I have adapted it to my sailboat, but it all works the same. Thanks for taking the time to do it. I was literally getting ready to buy a 12v diesel heater for my sailboat. I started searching the tube and low and behold you did a video on a gas version. Every time i need to learn something, your videos come up!!!! I love it...
I have a WeBoost product, so I'm already on board - but I would have guessed that the signal boost seen is NOT representative of what's happening. I think the signal boost you see is measuring the signal strength between the phone and the internal antenna. So of course there's a big boost, the phone is right next to the internal antenna. I'd love to hear from WeBoost if I'm wrong! What I'd really love to have is a small app for my phone that shows me what the amp and external antenna is seeing - what signal strength the external antenna is getting. I guess one way to test my theory would be to drive someplace with no signal and see if the phone signal strength goes into the green. If so, we'd know that its not a proper way to measure the signal amplification.
Awesome video! So one thing on 5G. MMWave which is the hyper fast 5G is 24ghz to 40ghz. The caveat is its extremely low range due to the high frequency. In fact that technology to my knowledge only is implemented in USA. Many of us get 5G on our cells if you have any new one. Generally speaking the 5G the vast majority of us are using is called sub 6ghz 5G. Meaning its in the 5ghz range. That is essentially LTE speeds. If you leave the United States the only 5G you will encounter is the sub 6ghz 5G most likely. The reason not to get into details is you have to be extremely close to mmWave to get anything which would make it hyper costly to offer complete coverage of it.
Hey Tito, I have question for ya. You might have answered this and I might have not caught it, but who do you guys have for an internet company while on the road? What about cell phone company? If you guys do have internet, what system or set up do you use, this question also applies for cellphones.
I like your dc power switch. Most National or State Parks do not have hookups, and you can only run a generator during selected hours. Also where you may need a booster the most. Looks like a dc adapter will be needed for versatility. Thanks for the info.
Perhaps if you uncoiled the coax cable on your indoor antenna, you might get a better signal. My understanding is, coiling a coax cable will result in signal loss due to cancellation of the signal because of the coil.
Looks like it's outputting in DC already and the included power supply converts to AC. Any reason one wouldn't just snip that wire, throw a fuse on it and tie in direct to the 12v system that way? I assume this just removes the capability to go AC as well but for some of us, that's not necessary.
It takes 5 volts DC. So you'd have to convert it from 12V to 5V. Weboost does have a DC hardwire cable. That's what I'm using to hardwire it to my 12V system.
great video Tito, thanks. But, $500 for a Drive, or travel booster, and no 12 volt connect? That is nuts, and the reason I would not waste premium buck on that brand. Even the cheap unites made for travel include a 12 volt connection. What were they thinking? What else is left out?
Those style spring Are Still On 1967 Military Truck Equipment unless that RV sitting on Salt flats ~ Part number 851111 for DC/DC = 12V DC Fused Hardwire Power Supply adapter Or a 5V/3A DC Fused Hardwire Power Supply w/ 2.5mm DC Plug - 851111 both listed to weboost or Wilson Amplifiers ~ no one ever said you Couldn't go Beyond 2-More Antenna Array or Height of the Antenna ~ most vehicle antenna work on the base of ground (aka the Chassis or metal body) yet boat & RV don't have it shell unless your Airstream
It has been complicated to get the answer from WeBoost, I had to call them two times: can we use shorter cables within the outside antenna and the WeBoost and between the WeBoost and the inside antenna? I have a 12 feet travel trailer and those coils of extra cables were annoying; finally they told me that those cables were also serving as antennas, so we have to use them as they are. I hope I got the correct answer!
It's best to use the cables that they provide. However, in a pinch I've used all kinds of cable configurations including the cable TV cable connection on the outside of my RV and it has worked fine. You need to be sure you have solid connections.
Thanks, for the high quality video and useful information! I always enjoy your very pertinent and timely coverage of your RV projects. Remember, technologies are constantly changing and improving. So, don't expect this solution - or, any - to last indefinitely. You should plan for a service life of about five years, before you might need to look for a better solution. For example, by 2030, a global low orbit satellite internet solution may be a far superior approach to using the WeBoost - or, WeBoost may have a product line intended for use with the new technology. Or, there may be a technology that hasn't even been considered that addresses this need better than anything currently available. The one thing that is certain is that the technology you choose today WILL be rendered obsolete in the future. So, get what you need for right now and budget accordingly.
I've found that my Weboost is pretty much useless. Using a $30 MIMO antenna plugged into my Verizon MyFi works 99% of the time and I don't have to climb up on the roof.
Yep.....these single line/antenna boosters are going to be $500 doorstops soon enough. 2x2 and 4x4 MIMO antennas and boosters will be the norm within 5 years. Maybe sooner. If you read up on qualcomm's upcoming X60 5G phone modem you'll see the future is already here.
Great Video and Great review! Thanks to You I am very happy with mine. Just used it over Thanksgiving weekend for the very first time and it work like a dream! Phone service was great and Internet was better as well. It made for a lot more enjoyable Camping...Thanks again Brian.😎👍
As an FYI, Visible cell network does NOT support the use of cell boosters at this time, while other major carriers do. If you have Visible call them before buying.
Tito, your videos are always awesome and thorough. I wanted to just provide some input as someone else on the road full time, working remote full time for a software company. Boosters, as linear amplifiers, are not typically worth the investment if your primary use case is for data throughput. The amplification, via a non mimo input, is usually not enough of a gain in speeds to positively impact your latency. If you're so far out that a booster is required to have usable service, you most likely aren't going to have a great connection to the tower and will drop packets and your upload speed will suffer greatly, causing you to drop meetings. My personal equipment of choice is to use a passive Mimo Antenna, such as a Poynting coupled with a Pepwave BR1 router and Unifi Access Point. The pepwave is not cheap, but it allows you to band lock the best signal(s) and is extremely flexible vs a hotspot. The mimo antennas can provide passive gain of 5-10dbi, and if you are willing to aim a directional Yagi pole mount, can be a very strong connection that will have predictable latency. End of rant :)
Thanks for that real-world perspective. We have certainly had hit and miss experiences with boosters. If I was working on-the-road as a remote software engineer I'd definitely be doing something more substantial (Pepwave router, redundant carriers, etc.) in addition to a booster. We are pretty heavy data users and find that boosters provide adequate data speeds for what we need most of the time for online business operations (i.e. website maintenance, video editing, uploading, streaming, occasional teleconference).
Hi, is there a way to simulate a long enough distance between antennas in a small Class C RV? I have a 24' Class C and all the boosters want 20' horizontal space. My coach is about 16' long. I'll be using a yagi antenna which should help some. Do you think putting a metal shield on the back side of the yagi will help?
Great review thank you. What kind of a mounting bracket did you use to attach it to your roof. We do not have a ladder so the ladder attachment doesn't work for us. It looks like a standard marine antenamount.
First of all thanks for a great video. Finally I learned what I needed to know. Like SMa and SMb connectors. I have an airstream and need to go through the window. I'll use one of those foot long flat through the window connectors. I assume I will need some SMa and SMb adopters??
Get o e of these from Amazon amzn.to/3Lq4jAr then you'll have to construct the rest from PVC connectors. Here's a video czcams.com/video/3s44z3fzJsA/video.html
Another excellent video Brian, I want to be you when I grow up. I just checked the website and it indicates that the DC/DC converter is included so I will be purchasing today. Also, your discount code whacked off $25. I have been waiting for them to release this combo, they told me last year that they were waiting for FCC approval because it boosted the signal so much. Thanks.
Update: I just received the kit and it does not include the DC/DC supply and they have also deleted it from the page on their website. I contacted Wilson and they promptly responded to let me know that they will not fulfill the order as it was advertised because it just doesn't come that way. Jerks.
@@dustydude1692 I'm in the same boat and the customer service even admitted it was their fault in listing the hardwired adapter as part of the kit, but also refused to do anything about it. Not sure if I want to continue fighting for it but this is definitely not something an upstanding company should act like.
Does your Drive Reach RV run VERY HOT? I just installed mine and used my IR thermal gun to see its temperature at 152 degrees F! Seems very high. How about yours, too hot to touch?
I am going to show my complete ignorance. Isn't the proof of the effectiveness of the "boost" the upload and download speed? Even with the boost that you showed there was very little improvement in your upload and download speeds. If that is true then what is the benefit? I am sure I am missing something. Thanks.
Dave M, Sometime has passed since you posted your comment, go back now and look at the comment by James Morrin, Brian tested the speed in the video but his test was throttled unknowingly.
cell boosters will not increase data speeds because it's a single antenna. Often they reduce speed compared to your phone. Your phone uses MiMo (dual or quad) antenna technology. Boosters are great for voice or text in marginal areas but are not the best choice for improved data speeds.
True. Boosters are most effective in remote areas where there are no other options. Best to try MIMO first if you have a hotspot or router that accept use dual external antennas.
I have a satellite coax connection point outside my rv and inside by the tv. Can I use that as my connection point between outside antenna and inside antenna? We never use the coax since we always boondock.
This is the best video I've come across so far, thanks for posting. Very comprehensive and great explanations. Question...Can you mount the antenna at an angle, like at 45 degrees?
Thanks! You'll probably get better coverage when vertical, but it will work at an angle. I use it laying flat quite a bit and still get a decent boost 😀
@@RVwithTito Thanks for the response! I chatted with Weboost, and they recommend having it vertical too, but for driving, I think I'll keep it at an angle, so it's not sitting sky high off my van.
@@Michael-Gong That works. Just fire up the booster when you need it. If you're happy with the signal boost then you probably don't need to bother making it vertical. Safe travels!
The distance between the outside and inside antenna is not an issue for me. What is an issue is being 12 to 36”’s from the inside antenna. Any hacks to get more range from inside antenna? Enjoyed your vid! Thanks!!!
Not really. I just use a phone hotspot or hotspot device placed close to the inside antenna. The Weboost DestinationRV booster has better inside range (czcams.com/video/AO-dTpZHVoY/video.html).
If I were to use my cell phone as a "wifi" hotspot and I got the less expensive Weboost Drive SLEEK - I suppose the tx/rx range wouldn't be as good as this? Hmm, might have to experiment a little.
The website states the hardwired 12v adapter is "in the box". 12 volt to 5 volt, 2.5 x 5.5mm x 11 mm plug (P/N 85111). You could wire a 12 volt to 5 volt 4 amp buck converter to a 2.5 x 5.5 connector. Update. Today, 11-12-2020, the 12 volt DC to 5 volt DC converter is not showing "in the box"?
Bummer. What kind of booster were you trying to buy? Just tried it on the Reach and it seemed to work. I believe my code is only valid on mobile boosters.
When I registered my weboost with my carrier I had to give an address, which I gave as my home address. So do I have to change that address on my carrier registration everytime we travel somewhere away from home?
So it will work in a “5G World” but it will NOT boost the 5G signal band, only 4G signals. That sounds like a “No” for the question: Will it work for 5G?
Hi Tito, thanks for the nice straight to the point review! Question about the cables supplied with the kit. Do they have any sort of marking on them? You mentioned the cable being RG6 ... is that the case, or are they LMR100? The Wilson website indicates the Reach is designed for use with 50 ohm antennas, and RG6 is a 75ohm cable. Maybe it doesn't make any difference?
Brian - have you looked at using one of your several weBoosts to boost your jetpack or modem/router (whatever you use for your internal camper cell/WIFI use)? That would be a great video to see how to set that up! Cheers!
Is there any reason the weBoost studio booster wouldn’t work if I have my camper in a permanent campsite? Camper is about 160 sq ft. And the studio reboots accommodates up to 1500sq ft.
I am beyond pleased at the signal strength improvement after installing this bit of kit on our B Van, but does anyone know if adding a ground plane disk of 6-10" in diameter to the base of the whip spring or immediately below the threaded portion of the antenna can improve the signal strength?
I believe that the Netflix speed test site - which is meant to let you know how fast Netflix will stream to your device - will throttle your speed when run from a mobile device (mobile devices don't need high DL speeds for acceptable resolution, so they save bandwidth for home systems). You should repeat your test with another speed tool (speedtest.net or the Google speed test web site).
If we're watching Netflix in an area where we'd need a booster, we're doing so through an internet data signal originating from your mobile device. Also, each speed test app uses different servers to download/upload to so I'd expect results to vary from one tool to the other anyway. I've used multiple speed test tools in the past. The Netflix one is pretty light weight, doesn't have ads or lots of other junk in it.
Yes, I understand all that. My point (albeit poorly made) was that fast.com measures speed to/from *Netflix* servers ONLY. Many carriers throttle data from Netflix, so a speed test using fast.com might not show much of an improvement since you may be looking at the throttled measurement in either case. (In other words, non-netflix data rates might be much higher). In any case, my tests show marked improvement with the Reach device - both in signal strength as well as data rates.
I’m confused, what am I actually getting for $500 bucks? Seems to me that cell signal strength is not really what people are looking for. Download speed is king. You proved that signal strength (in this location) didn’t affect the download speed.
Data speed tests will vary considerably under various conditions. I later used a Google Speedtest and got significantly better results over the Netflix one. In a different location and under different conditions those results could be better or worse. Also consider that boosters improve your ability to make calls using or send text messages via 4g, 3g, or 1X when in very remote areas. This can give you peace of mind in case of emergency. There are other options like MIMO that can improve your signal as well. Check out the links the description if you'd like to learn about alternatives. Hope that helps.
Hi Tito: I’m a first time viewer with you. You are covering a lot of ground where I have had questions but never knew where to seek answers. I’ve subscribed to your channel so I can keep current. Here’s a couple of questions. 1) I like your phone signal app. I use an iPhone and many times what’s available on an android is far superior to the ios version (if there is one). Is there a link or a previous video you can point me to? 2) I like your marine mount. Where can I get more info about that? That’s it for now. I like to start slow and build up my speed as my knowledge increases. Hopefully soon, I’ll get better at navigating through your world and won’t be such a pain.
How's it going? Welcome to the channel. I'm not up on iOS apps unfortunately. You used to be able to get a dB reading by putting your iPhone in field test mode, but I believe that's not possible anymore. For a data download/upload speed test you can Google speed test and do it through the browser. About the antenna mount...here's a video showing how I put that together czcams.com/video/3s44z3fzJsA/video.html. Here's a link to some marine antenna mounts an Amazon that are similar to what I used amzn.to/3fy5YEV.
Great video! Near the end, I can see you using a fibreglass (white?) telescopic pole to raise your antenna high - where did you source this pole? Cheers, Garry & Dar - Roving RVers
That's a 20 ft aluminum pole that came with the Weboost Connect 65 stationary kit. It's very similar to telescoping flag poles that you can find on Amazon (amzn.to/38ZSLU0). I've seen folks use PVC pipe or telescoping painting poles (amzn.to/3pKc1KW) as well which are affective and store very nicely. Hope that helps.
@@bottomlinebassin2001 Very little. On 12V it's around 0.2A last time I checked (going from memory). With the A/C adapter it will be a little higher given the inverter inefficiency.
My RV has two cable connectors on the outside wall: one for cable tv, and one for "satellite". Both appear to accept an RG6 ? cable. Can I connect my external antenna cable to the Satellite connection (which I don't use) and connect from the inside satellite connector to the Boosters External Antennae? Would save me running cable through my slide.
The new Ram Trucks have an application for my phone that allows me to view where the truck is located. I have called the Ram support number and they are evasive at best as to whether this technology works via satellite or cellular signal. The problem is that as on OTR vehicle, my wife and kids cannot track it in many locations that I go. This makes me think it is using cellular technology. If I install a Weboost Drive Reach will the cell signal for the mobile chip in the truck connect automatically and take advantage of the boosted signal? I am on a trial period now and don't want to pay for something that has so many gaps in coverage.
Please answer a n00b question: How important is the high-gain antenna versus the smaller magnetic antenna? I understand the purpose (sensitivity and thus range), but is it overkill?
Love your video's since they are very detailed. Don't you know a month ago I bought a WeBoost for my RV and now they are coming out with a better package for an RV. I have still been trying to figure out how to run the cable to inside my TT and I love the idea of the flat Connect cable. Does it by any chance hinder the speed of the signal? Thank you.
Any idea if this booster will work with Sprint? I purchased and had to return a weBoost Connect RV 65 because both Sprint's and weBoost's tech support teams finally gave up on getting it to work. WeBoost finally admitted a compatibility issue with 4G with Sprint.
Umm there is no more sprint as of 2020. T-mobile took them over. Seems T-Mobile 5g has most frequencies after taking over sprint and buying a lot of old UHF frequency bands to carry 5g
Great video presentation, would be great to get your feedback on what would be the best cellular signal booster (voice and data) for "on-the-road" type of use. Thanks for all your work and effort on doing those video presentations !!!
I use both fast.com as you just used and also speedtest.net for my tests and speed test always gives me more accurate results every single time fast always seems to be a lot slower than what speed test will come out so you might get a faster result in a more accurate way if you use speed test and not fast.
in amoving RV/Caravan those cable connectors will be loose after a while. better whit screw on connector. i have a 4G modem that are after 6 month the antenna cable are so loose.
you did a very thorough review on this cellular booster. i have had my surecall booster with the yagi directional and omni multi directional antennas for a few years now. very similar technology to weboost. i dont think you could go wrong with either one. was that an app you were using for the signal strength or is that built into your android phone? i have an iphone and was able to change the signal strength to negative numbers which i prefer but apple took it away with one of there ios software updates. i tried a couple of free apps but nothing that really worked well.
The app is Network Cell Info Lite which is only available for Android. You used to put the iPhone in field test mode and get a dB reading, but I'm not sure you can do that anymore.
@@RVwithTito yes it was field test mode. lost it last year with ios software upgrade that i regret now. i am sure i could dial in a cell tower in no time at all with that app too bad it will not work on my iphone.
Question for Brian. Apologies if it was addressed already. Is it possible to connect the booster to the pre-wired cable runs with the rig rather than running a separate wire for the booster? THX
It's not the recommended setup, but it can work. I've used my existing cable TV connection in a pinch and it worked just fine. It really depends on the quality of your cables and connections. Any poor cable or connections can create a noisy bad signal that will hinder your booster performance. Good luck!
Do you know how far away you can be from the indoor antenna for it to still work? I'm debating installing mine in my outdoor kitchen but wasn't sure if have to be right next to it or not.
Thanks Brian! Will be needing one of these. Question- saw someone run the cable through their slide (Permanently). Would you advise this on a new class C? Also- will a mobile hotspot connect to this? Was told the Verizon mobile hot spots work better than using your phones. Thanks for the great info!
Yes. Any mobile device will work. Since the internal antenna range is limited, hotspots work the best. Just place it near the antenna then connect to the WiFi from anywhere in or outside of your RV.
Thanks for another highly informative and entertaining video, Tito. I am interested in purchasing a new booster and this one looks impressive. But, I will be disappointed if I spend so much and don't see any improvement. So, I want to ask if you know - or if there's any way I can determine without buying it first, if this Drive Reach RV booster is for sure going to outperform a Wilson Sleek $100 booster I bought in 2013 (our current setup)? I think it's the same company that built both of these boosters. But I can't find any comparisons probably because the Sleek is so old. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Can't say how much of an improvement it would be. It really depends on how the Sleek is working for you and how often you're on the fringe of a signal. Every situation/location is different.
@@RVwithTito thanks a lot for the speedy reply, Tito. Our el cheapo booster does work when we need it so I think I'll just stick with it for now. Thanks again!
@@RVwithTito Hi again, Tito. I wanted to let you know that I decided to go ahead and buy the Weboost Drive and give it a try. Turns out it works significantly better than my old Wilson Sleek booster. We've been camped here in a remote site with about 1/2 a bar signal for 4 days. I've been running the Drive every day with my Verizon MiFi Jetpack hot spot and have had reliable Internet access. It's a game-changer as far as I'm concerned. I've been able to watch CZcams, check email, send files and surf the web - which is fantastic! Thanks again for all your great videos and the review that convinced me to upgrade our booster!
Great review. Bought mine 2.5 years ago and went with mobile using the small magnetic antenna so I could still drive and use it. Maybe I'll add the larger fixed antenna. Take care Brian.
I received my WeBoost about a month ago and routed it down through the bedroom vent and along the ceiling to the front. I was disappointed with the power source, so I called them, and the nice lady sent me the DC connector for free! However, my question for you, Tito, is, is there an app for the iPhone like your Network Cell Info Lite? It doesn't appear to be available on the Apple app store. I really like the looks and design of what you showed. I was able to download it on my ZTE phone from Visible. However, I have Consumer Cellular (AT&T) on my iPhone and T-Mobile through Netgear. I only use the ZTE for data and not phone calls, and Visible has been very erratic with its Internet connections even when I have a strong signal indication. Their tech service is also horrible. Have you or any others here had problems with Visible or Verizon?
Thanks for this video, Brian. Concerning the 5G question, it sounds to me like WeBoost said Yes and no. Yes to support 5G in the future but no to supporting the mmWave that 5G uses. That in effect is a no to 5G. Am I reading it wrong?
I read it that they said “it will work in a “5g” world because that world depends on 4g, LTE signal” and so do they. 5g requires technology not supported by weboost.
I think weboost is being careful. If you say "we don't support 5G" then some may assume that a booster won't work to improve your cell signal. Not true. Lots of folks are asking about 5G due to the 5G marketing hence the careful use of words. I could be wrong (not a communication engineer) but it seems that you may not even need a booster for a 5G signal given that the smaller 5G antennas have a very tight range. So 5G (mmWave) isn't going to be the primary band you'll have access to unless you're in one of the concentrated 5G zones. Everywhere else will be relying on 4G for the foreseeable future. Perhaps someone "in the know" could chime in on this issue.
5G has a limited range of 1000 feet from the tower. Unless you are a city forget 5G. Look it up! All has to do with the frequency 5G operates on. With a low end cost of $175K for a tower. That doesn't include the lease for the land the tower sits on. How many do you think the cell companies. Are going to be installed outside of the major cities? Look not trying to pop anyone's bubble. I hate see people fork over the kind of money. That these phones are selling for. Only to find out you are not in that 1000 foot range.
Let's not confuse the difference between 5G and Millimeter Wave (mmWave). 5G uses the same frequencies that 4G LTE uses and more. 4G uses 600 MHz to 2.5 GHz frequencies. mmWave consists of 24 GHz to 53 GHz. 5G can use 450 MHz to 6 GHz and then mmWave. This means 5G can use both higher and lower frequencies than 4G. We just hear the marketing about mmWave being faster and not how the lower frequencies give us better range for us in the boondocks. As for WeBoost's answer, wether they want too or not they will have to support 5G in the future. But they don't have to support mmWave because as @I go where I'm Towed said, 5G mmWave doesn't have great range because of the very high frequencies. So you would have to be next to a tower to boost its signal, so its not very beneficial.
Very informative video, just want I was looking for. Here is my situation, I have a class c rv and travel for weeks at a time, some places have very little cell reception. Last year I installed a Surecalll brand booster with a yagi antenna on my house, my thoughts were to take it down and use it on a 30ft extendable mast that I installed on the back of my rv when I travel. Well I have come to my senses and decided that would be a big hassle. So my question is seeing I have the ability to mount the antenna 30ft up is the antenna that comes with the package my best choice? also I would need 50ft of rg6 cable instead of 30ft and also need a adapter from sma to smb.
In some situations, a directional antenna will give you a better result, but not always. Results will vary from one area to the next. I'd start with just the omni antenna that comes with it. You could buy a Yagi for the RV and do a comparison. I've found that I use both, but mostly the omni.
Great video! How far does the booster reach or range distance to the nearest cell tower? Didn’t find info anywhere....Thanks Update: Called customer service and verified booster will reach up to 10-12 miles at “line of sight” to nearest cell tower. Ordering mine today......Thanks again
UPDATE: Get 5% Off on this booster with the RVTITO5 coupon code at weboost.com. Just tried it and it works now.
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@@a3a21971 thanks, saved me $21 on my order!
If I were to want to use the WeBoost in both the trailer RV and the tow vehicle, I would set up the WeBoost permanently in the trailer with a hotspot. A hotspot will easily transmit WiFi over 100 feet to nearby vehicles, even if they are driving near the trailer vehicle.
Love your videos. I wrote to tell you that hexagonal objects are hexagonal so that they don't roll. An antenna load could roll off the roof during installation, so it's hexagonal. GOOD idea....
That makes sense. Thanks.
This is complete nonsense. The antennas are hexagonal because the omnidirectional antenna elements are on each face to give it 360 degree coverage. It's not like you are going to have the antenna on your roof just rolling around...that's patently absurd. Even if you did just lay it on the roof, it would attenuate the signal a great deal, so it wouldn't make any sense at all.
Thanks for the review Brian. One thing no one mentions, is that these units are supposed to be registered with the FCC through your phone carrier, and not all carriers will support that, MVNO’s in particular. These antennas signal boosters can interfere with emergency services.
Yes. It's recommended that you register it with your carrier. The process is easy and can be done online. I've done it several times.
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I don’t think so. As I understand it, your carrier automatically tracks you anyway so notification shouldn’t be required. I would call your cell phone carrier to make sure they are on board with supporting a booster.
@@copperzepher6872 Whenever I've registered a booster, I just use my home location and never updated it as we've traveled. Also, I haven't registered any new boosters in a few years even though I've switched out several new ones during that time for testing/reviews. Everything still works. I'm on Verizon by the way.
As always Brian, excellent explanations. Regarding WE's response to 5G, what they were implying is that their amplifier does not reach the 24-52 GHz millimeter upper 5G frequency range. Even covering the 4G (600 MHz to 2.5 GHz) and lower end of the 5G frequency band is quite an accomplishment (the lower 5G band frequency spectrum runs from 450 MHz to 6 GHz). But even if designing such an amp was economically feasible, other engineering problems would still prevent dual-use up high in the millimeter band.
Considerations include: frequency response range of the cable, discontinuities (impedance mismatches) in connectors, impedance mismatches between cables/antenna/amplifier, etc. Standing wave power losses would also likely create havoc as the frequency goes up.
In fact this article regarding cell tower design problem for millimeter 5G gear illustrates using photonics (fiber optics) rather than traditional coax as a solution: www.nature.com/articles/srep19891
Sorry to get geeky - suffice it to say that the upper 5G mm band will not be a slam dunk ;-)
Thanks for adding to this discussion. That's really good information.
You should also mention the fact that the effective range of those frequences is quite short compared to the lower frequencies... so boosting 5G mmWave isn't really practical. Where 5G mmWave excels is in cities with lots of micro-cells for very localized coverage. It's not really meant for long range, wide open areas.
I bought one model before and had lots of problems with feedback. No matter how far I separated ant and amp. Fixed it by getting the truck version antenna, I see why they replaced the original one which would never work right. They weren't very helpful when I called them. It does work now. Not the greatest but works. I wouldn't buy again.
Thanks for the info. Glad you got it figured out. There are so many factors that can affect the performance and signal.
I currently have the drive sleek for my tow vehicle with the small roof top antenna. Recently while camping (boondocking) I removed it from the truck, and plugged it into my homemade solar generator. I took the small antenna and placed it onto my old Colman stove and placed it in the middle of the campsite on a table. So, not very high. We had very little signal at this location. Some texts would come and go. With this “campsite” set up I put my iPhone in the cradle and used it as a hotspot. My wife and I were both able to use our iPads. Still a wee bit slow but I was able to watch YT vids easily. SO, I now see that WeBoost has another set up for the drive sleek with the new antenna that you have there. I’ve ordered it and will be installing this week. (Temp install on external pole). I was going to run the cable into my wet bay through the opening in the floor and connect to the satellite input, then hook up the booster inside the RV behind the TV to in inside satellite port. I have all the required connectors and adaptors. My iPhone will be the hotspot in the cradle. The cradle has ample cord to move around the RV and even outside under the canopy. We should have ample signal,from the hotspot for this to work. iPhone says up to 30 feet. I’ve never seen anyone use the satellite ports (RG6 with F connectors) before. Curious if this will work. So I don’t have to drill any holes or go through the windows etc. I really would love your input on this. THANKS.
Another great video, and many thanks since we actually just purchased this booster! But on another note, on the last question, "Will this booster work with 5G?", the response from WeBoost was MISLEADING, and I was disappointed that this issue was not clarified. The question that was being asked was, 'Will this booster USE the 5G network when it becomes available?" and the answer is "NO". Instead of being honest about this, WeBoost chose to answer a different question: "Will this booster continue to work when 5G becomes available?". They tried to keep the water muddy by saying, "..currently we aren't boosting mmWave." like anyone would know what that means. What it means is that the answer to the first question is "NO" this booster doesn't work with 5G in the way the question was intended but 4G will continue to be available for many years to come.
I noticed that too.
They finally released it. Can’t believe this doesn’t come with a 12 volt hookup.
I know. It's a bummer that you have to buy that separately.
Looks like they nickel and dime you for sure !!!!
Truck/semi version (OTR) comes with 12v
I don't usually comment on videos, but you did a really good job of presenting this product in an understandable way!
Thanks Steve for the awesome feedback. I really appreciate it.
DoN't Bee bOOSten that 5G signal. ThATs hOW you get Rona! In all seriousness thanks for such a thorough video. it's good to know you can pair it with the directional antenna 🤔
Get a pocket full of adapters and you can plug in any antenna. Weboost has FCC restrictions on what they can sell as a package though.
One of the best tech videos I've seen on anything, RV or otherwise. You covered it all and didn't waste time with a long musical intro, you moved along fast. I just bought and installed this today, fyi.
Added power doesn't equal added range. These frequencies are line of sight, (height = distance) more power only makes your signal better on the receiving end of thing, range isn't increased.
Great video as always!!!! I have learned more from your videos than any other source. I have copied your batteries, solar chargers, solar panels, and 12v to 12v charging, est. I have adapted it to my sailboat, but it all works the same. Thanks for taking the time to do it. I was literally getting ready to buy a 12v diesel heater for my sailboat. I started searching the tube and low and behold you did a video on a gas version. Every time i need to learn something, your videos come up!!!! I love it...
I have a WeBoost product, so I'm already on board - but I would have guessed that the signal boost seen is NOT representative of what's happening. I think the signal boost you see is measuring the signal strength between the phone and the internal antenna. So of course there's a big boost, the phone is right next to the internal antenna. I'd love to hear from WeBoost if I'm wrong! What I'd really love to have is a small app for my phone that shows me what the amp and external antenna is seeing - what signal strength the external antenna is getting.
I guess one way to test my theory would be to drive someplace with no signal and see if the phone signal strength goes into the green. If so, we'd know that its not a proper way to measure the signal amplification.
The signal strength shown is measuring the amplified signal from the phone to the cell tower (through the external/internal antennas).
@@RVwithTito Thanks Brian. Can I ask, did you get that confirmed by WeBoost? Thanks
Awesome video! So one thing on 5G. MMWave which is the hyper fast 5G is 24ghz to 40ghz. The caveat is its extremely low range due to the high frequency. In fact that technology to my knowledge only is implemented in USA. Many of us get 5G on our cells if you have any new one. Generally speaking the 5G the vast majority of us are using is called sub 6ghz 5G. Meaning its in the 5ghz range. That is essentially LTE speeds. If you leave the United States the only 5G you will encounter is the sub 6ghz 5G most likely. The reason not to get into details is you have to be extremely close to mmWave to get anything which would make it hyper costly to offer complete coverage of it.
Hey Tito, I have question for ya. You might have answered this and I might have not caught it, but who do you guys have for an internet company while on the road? What about cell phone company? If you guys do have internet, what system or set up do you use, this question also applies for cellphones.
I like your dc power switch. Most National or State Parks do not have hookups, and you can only run a generator during selected hours. Also where you may need a booster the most. Looks like a dc adapter will be needed for versatility. Thanks for the info.
Perhaps if you uncoiled the coax cable on your indoor antenna, you might get a better signal. My understanding is, coiling a coax cable will result in signal loss due to cancellation of the signal because of the coil.
Looks like it's outputting in DC already and the included power supply converts to AC. Any reason one wouldn't just snip that wire, throw a fuse on it and tie in direct to the 12v system that way? I assume this just removes the capability to go AC as well but for some of us, that's not necessary.
It takes 5 volts DC. So you'd have to convert it from 12V to 5V. Weboost does have a DC hardwire cable. That's what I'm using to hardwire it to my 12V system.
great video Tito, thanks. But, $500 for a Drive, or travel booster, and no 12 volt connect? That is nuts, and the reason I would not waste premium buck on that brand. Even the cheap unites made for travel include a 12 volt connection. What were they thinking? What else is left out?
Those style spring Are Still On 1967 Military Truck Equipment unless that RV sitting on Salt flats ~ Part number 851111 for DC/DC = 12V DC Fused Hardwire Power Supply adapter Or a 5V/3A DC Fused Hardwire Power Supply w/ 2.5mm DC Plug - 851111 both listed to weboost or Wilson Amplifiers ~ no one ever said you Couldn't go Beyond 2-More Antenna Array or Height of the Antenna ~ most vehicle antenna work on the base of ground (aka the Chassis or metal body) yet boat & RV don't have it shell unless your Airstream
It has been complicated to get the answer from WeBoost, I had to call them two times: can we use shorter cables within the outside antenna and the WeBoost and between the WeBoost and the inside antenna? I have a 12 feet travel trailer and those coils of extra cables were annoying; finally they told me that those cables were also serving as antennas, so we have to use them as they are.
I hope I got the correct answer!
WeBoost frowns on changing the cable length. If you do you run the risk of them not supporting any reception issues.
It's best to use the cables that they provide. However, in a pinch I've used all kinds of cable configurations including the cable TV cable connection on the outside of my RV and it has worked fine. You need to be sure you have solid connections.
Thanks, for the high quality video and useful information! I always enjoy your very pertinent and timely coverage of your RV projects.
Remember, technologies are constantly changing and improving. So, don't expect this solution - or, any - to last indefinitely. You should plan for a service life of about five years, before you might need to look for a better solution. For example, by 2030, a global low orbit satellite internet solution may be a far superior approach to using the WeBoost - or, WeBoost may have a product line intended for use with the new technology. Or, there may be a technology that hasn't even been considered that addresses this need better than anything currently available. The one thing that is certain is that the technology you choose today WILL be rendered obsolete in the future. So, get what you need for right now and budget accordingly.
Especially true with communications and IT tech. Weboost tends to release new models each year. And yes, we're all watching what Elon Musk is doing :)
Where did you get the foldable antenna bracket
I've found that my Weboost is pretty much useless. Using a $30 MIMO antenna plugged into my Verizon MyFi works 99% of the time and I don't have to climb up on the roof.
Yep.....these single line/antenna boosters are going to be $500 doorstops soon enough. 2x2 and 4x4 MIMO antennas and boosters will be the norm within 5 years. Maybe sooner. If you read up on qualcomm's upcoming X60 5G phone modem you'll see the future is already here.
@@fritzkabeano1969still wrong
Great Video and Great review! Thanks to You I am very happy with mine. Just used it over Thanksgiving weekend for the very first time and it work like a dream! Phone service was great and Internet was better as well. It made for a lot more enjoyable Camping...Thanks again Brian.😎👍
Great to hear! You're welcome. Definitely the thing to have when you need it out on the fringe.
Odd that WeBoost offers an RV booster, yet ignored the advances in boondocking battery technologies. Hopefully, they will listen to you.
Brian, great to see another video from you! But then, we forget that you have a life OFF of CZcams, just as you should! Well done.
:) I do my best to keep videos coming even when we're on the road.
As an FYI, Visible cell network does NOT support the use of cell boosters at this time, while other major carriers do. If you have Visible call them before buying.
Tito, your videos are always awesome and thorough. I wanted to just provide some input as someone else on the road full time, working remote full time for a software company. Boosters, as linear amplifiers, are not typically worth the investment if your primary use case is for data throughput. The amplification, via a non mimo input, is usually not enough of a gain in speeds to positively impact your latency.
If you're so far out that a booster is required to have usable service, you most likely aren't going to have a great connection to the tower and will drop packets and your upload speed will suffer greatly, causing you to drop meetings.
My personal equipment of choice is to use a passive Mimo Antenna, such as a Poynting coupled with a Pepwave BR1 router and Unifi Access Point. The pepwave is not cheap, but it allows you to band lock the best signal(s) and is extremely flexible vs a hotspot. The mimo antennas can provide passive gain of 5-10dbi, and if you are willing to aim a directional Yagi pole mount, can be a very strong connection that will have predictable latency. End of rant :)
Thanks for that real-world perspective. We have certainly had hit and miss experiences with boosters. If I was working on-the-road as a remote software engineer I'd definitely be doing something more substantial (Pepwave router, redundant carriers, etc.) in addition to a booster. We are pretty heavy data users and find that boosters provide adequate data speeds for what we need most of the time for online business operations (i.e. website maintenance, video editing, uploading, streaming, occasional teleconference).
Hey Tito, Great Video! Looks like in this video your in Lone Pine Ca. one of my favorite places. Alabama Hills. Is that correct?
Yes. Back when you could just go there. Haven't been back in a while though. You?
Hi, is there a way to simulate a long enough distance between antennas in a small Class C RV? I have a 24' Class C and all the boosters want 20' horizontal space. My coach is about 16' long. I'll be using a yagi antenna which should help some. Do you think putting a metal shield on the back side of the yagi will help?
Why do they cost so much??????
I do not have a ladder. Skin aluminum Sundownwe LQ horse trailer. TY
Great review thank you. What kind of a mounting bracket did you use to attach it to your roof. We do not have a ladder so the ladder attachment doesn't work for us. It looks like a standard marine antenamount.
Yes it's a standard marine mount. I made a video about it a while back.
Thanks for your in depth review. You are one of my favorite go toos for RV info.
Wow, thanks!
I agree!
Curious which app you use on your mobile phone to measure the mobile signal. Videos very helpful, thank you.
I use Network Cell Info Lite (Android).
First of all thanks for a great video. Finally I learned what I needed to know. Like SMa and SMb connectors. I have an airstream and need to go through the window. I'll use one of those foot long flat through the window connectors. I assume I will need some SMa and SMb adopters??
They're pretty cheap on Amazon. Keep a variety pack handy and you'll be good to go.
Where can I get the marine folding antenna bracket you show on your roof?
Get o e of these from Amazon amzn.to/3Lq4jAr then you'll have to construct the rest from PVC connectors. Here's a video czcams.com/video/3s44z3fzJsA/video.html
Another excellent video Brian, I want to be you when I grow up. I just checked the website and it indicates that the DC/DC converter is included so I will be purchasing today. Also, your discount code whacked off $25. I have been waiting for them to release this combo, they told me last year that they were waiting for FCC approval because it boosted the signal so much. Thanks.
That's good news. Glad you got the discount. Yes. We've been waiting on this release since they released the original Drive Reach last year.
Update: I just received the kit and it does not include the DC/DC supply and they have also deleted it from the page on their website. I contacted Wilson and they promptly responded to let me know that they will not fulfill the order as it was advertised because it just doesn't come that way. Jerks.
@@dustydude1692 That's a bummer. I didn't see it included in the product description...just AC-DC.
@@dustydude1692 I'm in the same boat and the customer service even admitted it was their fault in listing the hardwired adapter as part of the kit, but also refused to do anything about it. Not sure if I want to continue fighting for it but this is definitely not something an upstanding company should act like.
Does your Drive Reach RV run VERY HOT? I just installed mine and used my IR thermal gun to see its temperature at 152 degrees F! Seems very high. How about yours, too hot to touch?
Haven't measured it but YES it does get warm. That's why all the heat sinks on top 🙂
I am going to show my complete ignorance. Isn't the proof of the effectiveness of the "boost" the upload and download speed? Even with the boost that you showed there was very little improvement in your upload and download speeds. If that is true then what is the benefit? I am sure I am missing something. Thanks.
Dave M, Sometime has passed since you posted your comment, go back now and look at the comment by James Morrin, Brian tested the speed in the video but his test was throttled unknowingly.
@@SpykersB Thanks for the update. I hadn't come back to look at the comments.
cell boosters will not increase data speeds because it's a single antenna. Often they reduce speed compared to your phone. Your phone uses MiMo (dual or quad) antenna technology. Boosters are great for voice or text in marginal areas but are not the best choice for improved data speeds.
True. Boosters are most effective in remote areas where there are no other options. Best to try MIMO first if you have a hotspot or router that accept use dual external antennas.
I have a satellite coax connection point outside my rv and inside by the tv. Can I use that as my connection point between outside antenna and inside antenna? We never use the coax since we always boondock.
Yeah. It should work fine if all the connections are good. I've done it.
This is the best video I've come across so far, thanks for posting. Very comprehensive and great explanations. Question...Can you mount the antenna at an angle, like at 45 degrees?
Thanks! You'll probably get better coverage when vertical, but it will work at an angle. I use it laying flat quite a bit and still get a decent boost 😀
@@RVwithTito Thanks for the response! I chatted with Weboost, and they recommend having it vertical too, but for driving, I think I'll keep it at an angle, so it's not sitting sky high off my van.
@@Michael-Gong That works. Just fire up the booster when you need it. If you're happy with the signal boost then you probably don't need to bother making it vertical. Safe travels!
Hi Tito, I’m a Newbie RV life and Thanks TitoRV for the information & I did use the discount too!!!!
The distance between the outside and inside antenna is not an issue for me. What is an issue is being 12 to 36”’s from the inside antenna. Any hacks to get more range from inside antenna? Enjoyed your vid! Thanks!!!
Not really. I just use a phone hotspot or hotspot device placed close to the inside antenna. The Weboost DestinationRV booster has better inside range (czcams.com/video/AO-dTpZHVoY/video.html).
If I were to use my cell phone as a "wifi" hotspot and I got the less expensive Weboost Drive SLEEK - I suppose the tx/rx range wouldn't be as good as this? Hmm, might have to experiment a little.
The website states the hardwired 12v adapter is "in the box". 12 volt to 5 volt, 2.5 x 5.5mm x 11 mm plug (P/N 85111). You could wire a 12 volt to 5 volt 4 amp buck converter to a 2.5 x 5.5 connector.
Update. Today, 11-12-2020, the 12 volt DC to 5 volt DC converter is not showing "in the box"?
Code does not work as of 11/26/2020...
Found another review and their code... MIRCweBoost10 works for 5% off. Maybe it is something on my web browser that is screwed up.
Bummer. What kind of booster were you trying to buy? Just tried it on the Reach and it seemed to work. I believe my code is only valid on mobile boosters.
OTR version comes with 12v hookup
Good to hear.
When I registered my weboost with my carrier I had to give an address, which I gave as my home address. So do I have to change that address on my carrier registration everytime we travel somewhere away from home?
You should be fine. It's unclear what carriers do with those registrations anyway.
So it will work in a “5G World” but it will NOT boost the 5G signal band, only 4G signals.
That sounds like a “No” for the question: Will it work for 5G?
Can you link the mount you used and explain a bit how you got it to work with the marine mount? Can't the life of me find something that will work
I'll show you what I did in a video: czcams.com/video/3s44z3fzJsA/video.html
@@RVwithTito Thanks!
Do you have a link to the mount?
thanks for the updated version video, looking for a (perhaps shorter version) of your antenna collapsible mount?
If you develop a short version let me know.
Did some research and found your channel. Great video and thank you for the discount code.
You're welcome. Glad you could use the code.
Hi Tito, thanks for the nice straight to the point review! Question about the cables supplied with the kit. Do they have any sort of marking on them? You mentioned the cable being RG6 ... is that the case, or are they LMR100? The Wilson website indicates the Reach is designed for use with 50 ohm antennas, and RG6 is a 75ohm cable. Maybe it doesn't make any difference?
Brian - have you looked at using one of your several weBoosts to boost your jetpack or modem/router (whatever you use for your internal camper cell/WIFI use)? That would be a great video to see how to set that up! Cheers!
We use a hotspot and just place it by the internal antenna.
Great video. I bought the product and received the 5% discount. Thank you!!!
Thanks for the review! Something we will need when we go full time next week
You're very welcome. Glad it was helpful!
Is there any reason the weBoost studio booster wouldn’t work if I have my camper in a permanent campsite? Camper is about 160 sq ft. And the studio reboots accommodates up to 1500sq ft.
I don't see a problem as long as the external antenna can be directed to a cell tower.
Best one I’ve seen so fae
I am beyond pleased at the signal strength improvement after installing this bit of kit on our B Van, but does anyone know if adding a ground plane disk of 6-10" in diameter to the base of the whip spring or immediately below the threaded portion of the antenna can improve the signal strength?
Don't think it's required for this antenna. Only for the tiny magnetic mount ones.
What are you, some bot? You posted the exact same comment on another Weboost video review!
I believe that the Netflix speed test site - which is meant to let you know how fast Netflix will stream to your device - will throttle your speed when run from a mobile device (mobile devices don't need high DL speeds for acceptable resolution, so they save bandwidth for home systems). You should repeat your test with another speed tool (speedtest.net or the Google speed test web site).
If we're watching Netflix in an area where we'd need a booster, we're doing so through an internet data signal originating from your mobile device. Also, each speed test app uses different servers to download/upload to so I'd expect results to vary from one tool to the other anyway. I've used multiple speed test tools in the past. The Netflix one is pretty light weight, doesn't have ads or lots of other junk in it.
Yes, I understand all that. My point (albeit poorly made) was that fast.com measures speed to/from *Netflix* servers ONLY. Many carriers throttle data from Netflix, so a speed test using fast.com might not show much of an improvement since you may be looking at the throttled measurement in either case. (In other words, non-netflix data rates might be much higher).
In any case, my tests show marked improvement with the Reach device - both in signal strength as well as data rates.
@@jdblock412 Oh gotcha. I'm still using an unthrottled unlimited grandfathered data plan from Verizon.
Love your video and like the foldable mount. I am just tying to see how you mounted the SS plate on the mount. Anything would help. Thanks
I’m confused, what am I actually getting for $500 bucks? Seems to me that cell signal strength is not really what people are looking for. Download speed is king. You proved that signal strength (in this location) didn’t affect the download speed.
Data speed tests will vary considerably under various conditions. I later used a Google Speedtest and got significantly better results over the Netflix one. In a different location and under different conditions those results could be better or worse. Also consider that boosters improve your ability to make calls using or send text messages via 4g, 3g, or 1X when in very remote areas. This can give you peace of mind in case of emergency. There are other options like MIMO that can improve your signal as well. Check out the links the description if you'd like to learn about alternatives. Hope that helps.
Hi Tito: I’m a first time viewer with you. You are covering a lot of ground where I have had questions but never knew where to seek answers. I’ve subscribed to your channel so I can keep current. Here’s a couple of questions.
1) I like your phone signal app. I use an iPhone and many times what’s available on an android is far superior to the ios version (if there is one). Is there a link or a previous video you can point me to?
2) I like your marine mount. Where can I get more info about that?
That’s it for now. I like to start slow and build up my speed as my knowledge increases. Hopefully soon, I’ll get better at navigating through your world and won’t be such a pain.
How's it going? Welcome to the channel. I'm not up on iOS apps unfortunately. You used to be able to get a dB reading by putting your iPhone in field test mode, but I believe that's not possible anymore. For a data download/upload speed test you can Google speed test and do it through the browser. About the antenna mount...here's a video showing how I put that together czcams.com/video/3s44z3fzJsA/video.html. Here's a link to some marine antenna mounts an Amazon that are similar to what I used amzn.to/3fy5YEV.
Great video!
Near the end, I can see you using a fibreglass (white?) telescopic pole to raise your antenna high - where did you source this pole?
Cheers, Garry & Dar - Roving RVers
That's a 20 ft aluminum pole that came with the Weboost Connect 65 stationary kit. It's very similar to telescoping flag poles that you can find on Amazon (amzn.to/38ZSLU0). I've seen folks use PVC pipe or telescoping painting poles (amzn.to/3pKc1KW) as well which are affective and store very nicely. Hope that helps.
What was your amp draw for the system? Thanks for the great info!
@@bottomlinebassin2001 Very little. On 12V it's around 0.2A last time I checked (going from memory). With the A/C adapter it will be a little higher given the inverter inefficiency.
@@RVwithTito That's awesome thanks again 👍
My RV has two cable connectors on the outside wall: one for cable tv, and one for "satellite". Both appear to accept an RG6 ? cable. Can I connect my external antenna cable to the Satellite connection (which I don't use) and connect from the inside satellite connector to the Boosters External Antennae? Would save me running cable through my slide.
The new Ram Trucks have an application for my phone that allows me to view where the truck is located. I have called the Ram support number and they are evasive at best as to whether this technology works via satellite or cellular signal. The problem is that as on OTR vehicle, my wife and kids cannot track it in many locations that I go. This makes me think it is using cellular technology. If I install a Weboost Drive Reach will the cell signal for the mobile chip in the truck connect automatically and take advantage of the boosted signal? I am on a trial period now and don't want to pay for something that has so many gaps in coverage.
Please answer a n00b question: How important is the high-gain antenna versus the smaller magnetic antenna? I understand the purpose (sensitivity and thus range), but is it overkill?
Love your video's since they are very detailed. Don't you know a month ago I bought a WeBoost for my RV and now they are coming out with a better package for an RV. I have still been trying to figure out how to run the cable to inside my TT and I love the idea of the flat Connect cable. Does it by any chance hinder the speed of the signal? Thank you.
No it should be fine as long as you make good connections. BTW you may need an adapter if connecting cables with different connectors.
Any idea if this booster will work with Sprint? I purchased and had to return a weBoost Connect RV 65 because both Sprint's and weBoost's tech support teams finally gave up on getting it to work. WeBoost finally admitted a compatibility issue with 4G with Sprint.
I believe the Drive Reach does now work with Sprint. May want to verify that to be sure.
Umm there is no more sprint as of 2020. T-mobile took them over. Seems T-Mobile 5g has most frequencies after taking over sprint and buying a lot of old UHF frequency bands to carry 5g
Great video Tito and thanks for the promo code! Nice savings.
No problem 👍
Great video presentation, would be great to get your feedback on what would be the best cellular signal booster (voice and data) for "on-the-road" type of use.
Thanks for all your work and effort on doing those video presentations !!!
I use both fast.com as you just used and also speedtest.net for my tests and speed test always gives me more accurate results every single time fast always seems to be a lot slower than what speed test will come out so you might get a faster result in a more accurate way if you use speed test and not fast.
in amoving RV/Caravan those cable connectors will be loose after a while. better whit screw on connector. i have a 4G modem that are after 6 month the antenna cable are so loose.
Very good information as always. Thank you !!
You're welcome!
Thanks Tito, you saved me $25. Good video also.
Just purchased! Thanks for the discount!
You bet!
How did you mount the outdoor antenna to the marine-mount?
Here's how czcams.com/video/3s44z3fzJsA/video.html
you did a very thorough review on this cellular booster. i have had my surecall booster with the yagi directional and omni multi directional antennas for a few years now. very similar technology to weboost. i dont think you could go wrong with either one. was that an app you were using for the signal strength or is that built into your android phone? i have an iphone and was able to change the signal strength to negative numbers which i prefer but apple took it away with one of there ios software updates. i tried a couple of free apps but nothing that really worked well.
The app is Network Cell Info Lite which is only available for Android. You used to put the iPhone in field test mode and get a dB reading, but I'm not sure you can do that anymore.
@@RVwithTito yes it was field test mode. lost it last year with ios software upgrade that i regret now. i am sure i could dial in a cell tower in no time at all with that app too bad it will not work on my iphone.
Unfortunately your discount code for this product did not work for me 😞
Thanks for heads up. Sorry to hear that. I'll reach out and get it resolved.
Looks like it's working now.
Question for Brian. Apologies if it was addressed already. Is it possible to connect the booster to the pre-wired cable runs with the rig rather than running a separate wire for the booster? THX
It's not the recommended setup, but it can work. I've used my existing cable TV connection in a pinch and it worked just fine. It really depends on the quality of your cables and connections. Any poor cable or connections can create a noisy bad signal that will hinder your booster performance. Good luck!
Do you know how far away you can be from the indoor antenna for it to still work? I'm debating installing mine in my outdoor kitchen but wasn't sure if have to be right next to it or not.
Within a couple feet for best results but you can be up to about 6 ft and still get the boost.
Great review. Does weBoost make a similar cellular amplifier with external antenna connections AND an RJ-45 LAN jack to connect a WiFi router?
No WiFi is a separate thing. This just amplifies the cell signal. You could use it as an input to a mobile router.
Thanks for review. Thanks for tips. What is app you utilize for checking cell frequency strength.
It's an Android app called Network Cell Info Lite.
Thanks Brian! Will be needing one of these. Question- saw someone run the cable through their slide (Permanently). Would you advise this on a new class C? Also- will a mobile hotspot connect to this? Was told the Verizon mobile hot spots work better than using your phones. Thanks for the great info!
Yes. Any mobile device will work. Since the internal antenna range is limited, hotspots work the best. Just place it near the antenna then connect to the WiFi from anywhere in or outside of your RV.
What about running cable from roof through slide out? Thanks!
Very informative. Thank you Brian and thank you to the folks commenting.
Thanks for another highly informative and entertaining video, Tito. I am interested in purchasing a new booster and this one looks impressive. But, I will be disappointed if I spend so much and don't see any improvement. So, I want to ask if you know - or if there's any way I can determine without buying it first, if this Drive Reach RV booster is for sure going to outperform a Wilson Sleek $100 booster I bought in 2013 (our current setup)? I think it's the same company that built both of these boosters. But I can't find any comparisons probably because the Sleek is so old. Thanks for any help you can offer.
Can't say how much of an improvement it would be. It really depends on how the Sleek is working for you and how often you're on the fringe of a signal. Every situation/location is different.
@@RVwithTito thanks a lot for the speedy reply, Tito. Our el cheapo booster does work when we need it so I think I'll just stick with it for now. Thanks again!
@@RVwithTito Hi again, Tito. I wanted to let you know that I decided to go ahead and buy the Weboost Drive and give it a try. Turns out it works significantly better than my old Wilson Sleek booster. We've been camped here in a remote site with about 1/2 a bar signal for 4 days. I've been running the Drive every day with my Verizon MiFi Jetpack hot spot and have had reliable Internet access. It's a game-changer as far as I'm concerned. I've been able to watch CZcams, check email, send files and surf the web - which is fantastic! Thanks again for all your great videos and the review that convinced me to upgrade our booster!
@@JimLangley1 So you decided to take the plunge after all :) Glad to hear about your positive results. Thanks for circling back to let me know.
Also, you mentioned routing the external antennae cable down the refrigerator vent. Is that acceptable, heat-wise?
Sure if you keep it away from the coils. You could wrap it in flex tubing if needed.
Great review. Bought mine 2.5 years ago and went with mobile using the small magnetic antenna so I could still drive and use it. Maybe I'll add the larger fixed antenna. Take care Brian.
Good plan.
Hi Brian! Great info as always!
Thanks guys! Hope you're enjoying the sun and beach. It's pouring rain here :(
I received my WeBoost about a month ago and routed it down through the bedroom vent and along the ceiling to the front. I was disappointed with the power source, so I called them, and the nice lady sent me the DC connector for free!
However, my question for you, Tito, is, is there an app for the iPhone like your Network Cell Info Lite? It doesn't appear to be available on the Apple app store. I really like the looks and design of what you showed. I was able to download it on my ZTE phone from Visible. However, I have Consumer Cellular (AT&T) on my iPhone and T-Mobile through Netgear. I only use the ZTE for data and not phone calls, and Visible has been very erratic with its Internet connections even when I have a strong signal indication. Their tech service is also horrible. Have you or any others here had problems with Visible or Verizon?
The only iPhone app I'm aware of is Open Signal.
Thanks for this video, Brian. Concerning the 5G question, it sounds to me like WeBoost said Yes and no. Yes to support 5G in the future but no to supporting the mmWave that 5G uses. That in effect is a no to 5G. Am I reading it wrong?
I read it that they said “it will work in a “5g” world because that world depends on 4g, LTE signal” and so do they. 5g requires technology not supported by weboost.
I think weboost is being careful. If you say "we don't support 5G" then some may assume that a booster won't work to improve your cell signal. Not true. Lots of folks are asking about 5G due to the 5G marketing hence the careful use of words. I could be wrong (not a communication engineer) but it seems that you may not even need a booster for a 5G signal given that the smaller 5G antennas have a very tight range. So 5G (mmWave) isn't going to be the primary band you'll have access to unless you're in one of the concentrated 5G zones. Everywhere else will be relying on 4G for the foreseeable future. Perhaps someone "in the know" could chime in on this issue.
That's how I read it. No to 5G but since the networks aren't going to turn off 4G for at least 10 years this won't stop working anytime soon.
5G has a limited range of 1000 feet from the tower. Unless you are a city forget 5G. Look it up! All has to do with the frequency 5G operates on. With a low end cost of $175K for a tower. That doesn't include the lease for the land the tower sits on. How many do you think the cell companies. Are going to be installed outside of the major cities? Look not trying to pop anyone's bubble. I hate see people fork over the kind of money. That these phones are selling for. Only to find out you are not in that 1000 foot range.
Let's not confuse the difference between 5G and Millimeter Wave (mmWave). 5G uses the same frequencies that 4G LTE uses and more.
4G uses 600 MHz to 2.5 GHz frequencies.
mmWave consists of 24 GHz to 53 GHz.
5G can use 450 MHz to 6 GHz and then mmWave. This means 5G can use both higher and lower frequencies than 4G. We just hear the marketing about mmWave being faster and not how the lower frequencies give us better range for us in the boondocks.
As for WeBoost's answer, wether they want too or not they will have to support 5G in the future. But they don't have to support mmWave because as @I go where I'm Towed said, 5G mmWave doesn't have great range because of the very high frequencies. So you would have to be next to a tower to boost its signal, so its not very beneficial.
Very informative video, just want I was looking for. Here is my situation, I have a class c rv and travel for weeks at a time, some places have very little cell reception. Last year I installed a Surecalll brand booster with a yagi antenna on my house, my thoughts were to take it down and use it on a 30ft extendable mast that I installed on the back of my rv when I travel. Well I have come to my senses and decided that would be a big hassle. So my question is seeing I have the ability to mount the antenna 30ft up is the antenna that comes with the package my best choice? also I would need 50ft of rg6 cable instead of 30ft and also need a adapter from sma to smb.
In some situations, a directional antenna will give you a better result, but not always. Results will vary from one area to the next. I'd start with just the omni antenna that comes with it. You could buy a Yagi for the RV and do a comparison. I've found that I use both, but mostly the omni.
Can you add link to your roof / marine pole mount? Like to get that for ours.
Enjoyed your very informative video! Will this also increase signal of data only WiFi hot spot devices? Like a Inseego MiFi 5G Hotspot? Thanks!
Great video! How far does the booster reach or range distance to the nearest cell tower? Didn’t find info anywhere....Thanks
Update:
Called customer service and verified booster will reach up to 10-12 miles at “line of sight” to nearest cell tower. Ordering mine today......Thanks again
Your indoor antenna is too close to booster in your demo to get best UP/Down speeds