Andrew Wiggins: How To Waste Generational Talent
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I gotta point out Rusty wiggens stats compare similarly with kobe bryant his fg percentage and 3 are very similar kobe just scores 4-5 points more a game also rbs and assists are similar a couple more assists a game for kobe also kobe makes about one more free throw out of every ten compared to wiggens the big difference is defense definitely but it's a lot closer than I thought before I looked it up obviously stats don't tell the whole story
If your a real sports fan, especially a basketball fan, you’ll know that, at least 80% of a athletes game is mental.. Now I’m not making an excuse for Wiggins, but imagine being the most HYPED! high school/ D1 prospect since LeBron at that time (In my opinion well deserved) gets drafted number 1 to the pro’s, Then couple weeks later the biggest name in basketball probably in sports PERIOD! signs to your very team through free agency, then does not contact you, mention you, or nothing.. THEN! after summer league you get TRADED!! as a GENERATIONAL HYPED NUMBER 1 PICK!! TO THE TIMBERWOLVES!!! Not only was LeBron a DICK! towards a young Wiggins, but I’m very sure that messed with his mental and threw him off his GAME! I love how everyone forgets that situation and how it was handled. If that same situation was to happen to LeBron himself in 03, who knows if we’d get the same LeBron we have today!
Love yo videos but Rudy gay made the playoffs most of his career Andrew hasn’t
@@jermainefran7070 I agree with you, and that's the reason why everytime Wiggins plays Lebron, he remembers that and he outscored him, head to head on 12 games Wiggins scored 25.3 pts/game (Lebron 24.5 pts), I know Lebron has won most of those games (Lebron has a 10-2 winning record), but now that Wiggins is not in a crappy team like Minnesota and he is in a winning team like the Warriors, plus you add that he is playing his best this season with way better defense than previous matchups against him, that record will change.
I can not wait for their next game. So far in his first full season with Golden State, Wiggins has a 1-0 winning record against Lebron!
Should do one on Parker from Duke
Can’t believe he’s only 25 😑😑 seems like he’s been in the league for 10 years.
bruh he played like a 5 year old in Minnesota
thats what happens when you enter the nba at 19..also,ricky rubio was drafted in '09..he just turned 30 in oct.
same for andre drummond, i feel like he played in this league since early 2000's
Crazy to think Lillard only been in the league 2 more years than him
Because all these players enter so young
You look like Mac Millers and Kevin Loves secret love child
He sure does.
😭😭😭
We need to make this top commeny
Mixed with jonas Valanciunas
Derek Carr’s long lost little brother
The crazy thing is he’s seen as a disappointment averaging almost 20 ppg, that’s how hyped up he was.
well there’s like 40 players putting up 20 ppg this season it’s not that remarkable of a stat to “almost” get 20, especially for a #1 pick, and also he’s getting those points very inefficiently
@@RobinDBank-yj4lw but what percentage of players average over 20 bro!? Yeah exactly it actually is a good accomplishment, he’s in the top two tiers of scorers in the league
@@RobinDBank-yj4lw it’s his lack of efficiency
@Homer Simpson his defense is outstanding this year bro :/
@@crisclay2678 Hes very inefficient in getting less than 20. Hes Averaging 17.7 points on 14.4 shots, he’s not a good scorer.
Wiggins apparently took that personally 😂😂😂
Wiggins fans be like: "look. I know he is 35. But I think he's gonna break out this year, I know it."
lmao
Damn no need to call me out
I’ve seen some people saying he should be an all star lol.
I can't call him a bust since he average over 15 points not like he is Anthony Bennet now yes he is very overpaid but bust no
bro he already did last yr
As a wolves fan I'll say the wolves handed him the keys to the franchise before kat was drafted & the organization was honestly the main reason for him falling short of expectations. Never challenged him to be great . Let him coast for the first 5 years of his career .
Check out Rusty Buckets he just made a good video breaking it down for ya homie
Why did he have to be challenged? He should've challenged himself. No wonder why nobody respects him.
@@LaskInHD Cause he got drafted as a kid. Most kids need leadership and guidance. Kids that don't need that are the exception not the rule.
@@hamsterbrigade oooh so you're one of the people Rusty is talking about, who still makes excuses for Wiggins..
@@jbug1979 hes kinda right though not every kid that goes into the draft constantly puts them self in the gym unless their self motivated and just driven usually it's someone in their corner making sure they constantly raise their standards
After seeing the 2022 championship, I can safely say Wiggins has redeemed himself
not necessarily. wiggins is playing good. but not #1 pick good. especially for the amount of hype he had.
No. He's a good player, but between his talent and his draft status he should have been a franchise player. He's at best the third best player on the Warriors. Probably more like 4th or 5th. He landed in a great place and he's taken advantage of it. That doesn't absolve him of his first six years.
@@MrOctober44 nah that's because the system is built around the pointguards of the warriors, he is def the second best player on the team behind curry (who is literally game-changing)
@@pradetor4845 I agree he is the 2nd best then Draymond closely behind
@@pradetor4845 He's become a very good defender. My point was that he's still a bit of a disappointment considering his athleticism and draft status. He's 27 and has one all star appearance.
just rewatched this after the first quarter of the season being over. So glad how well Wiggs is doing with the dubs. It feels (at least going by the eye test) like the only way for him is up. His efficiency is great.
Aye. I'm happy for him
He’s doing so good, offensively and he’s doing so good defensively
Now he's an all star. I know that he benefited from an stupid system, but it's not nothing
@@seandawson5899 how ist a system stupid that helps a player to use his skillset in the right way?
@@laufsteakmodel I'm talking about all star voting
As a Minnesotan and NBA junkie, Andrew Wiggins gave me seasonal depression for 6 seasons.
As a Warriors fan I’m starting to feel ur pain but it’s not even that he’s playing bad it’s just he’s inconsistent😂
@@KS-up9zt true I pray that KAT becomes the greatest center of all time and leads y’all back to where KG had y’all💯
@@Teezythegoat I'm sorry but I can't see KAT even becoming the second greatest center in his generation, let alone of all time
@@mac_n_cheesie we can still pray
@@percswrld6134 I'll just pray for his wellbeing and hope that he manages to find peace after all the stuff he's been thru
I’m not even a Wiggins fan but that title just hurt my soul 😭
There are still Wiggins fans?
@@Nick-sr4fe no shit
@@amidgrid8662 haven’t seen them come out the shadows yet 😂.
@@Nick-sr4fe I am a wiggins fan
@@Nick-sr4fe hes been great this season
Wiggins rn : "what they gonna say now?"
9 months from this video…
Wiggins is contributing to the best team in the league winning and Anthony Edwards is headed towards being a superstar.
A month later he's an all-star starter
@@jamalwalker lol crazy right?
@@jamalwalker a month later he’s back to normal Andrew Wiggins
@@user_user_user8957 2 months later he posterized Luka in the playoffs
He's not a superstar. He was an all-star because of the annoying GS fans
Iggins Wiggins of Andrew*
😂😂😂
@Furkan Korkmaz I thought furkan was a turkey company
Who is that?
we all know i'm the goat here
@@Teezythegoat its what flight calls andrew wiggins
I genuinely think the majority of the blame should go to the Timberwolves. As you can see in Golden State, having someone like a Draymond Green or even a good coach who's always on your ass will always push you to be as great as you can be. Wiggins clearly has the work ethic but he just never knew how to utilize it or have someone to help him utilize it.
Even though The Timberwolves do deserve blame, its not like Minnesota never tried to bring in guys who tries pushing others. They bought in Thibs who was knowm for being one of the toughest & intense coaches who was known for giving his starters significant minutes as well as trading for Butler, who even though didn't work out in Minnesota did call out Wiggins & the other young players for not workingas hard as they should be. I think most of the blame came to the fact that Wiggins necer tried to work as hard to reach the potential he had as to this day I remember when the Timberwolves were on ESPN & Doris Burke was announcing & called Wiggins out for his lack of effort.
As a wolves fan I 100% agree. The Timberwolves franchise is a shambles and it starts with ownership, leaking all the way down to the players. I don't think things will change until Glen Taylor gives up the team, which is a shame because this year's roster actually has a lot of potential
Wiggins had Thibs and Jimmy to push him.
@@eduardoalegre9075 you can put that on change of scenery maybe Minnesota I just wore him down by that point or you can say teaching styles because Draymond has gotten a lot out of him defensively and yes I'm putting that on Draymond meanwhile Jimmy got nothing out of him defensively who knows we'll probably never be able to figure that one out and until their careers are over and offensively I don't know why Minnesota Wiggins had that obsession with mid-range jumpers like he was Kobe Bryant when he definitely could not hit them like he was Kobe that was just so stupid
@@randomnerd2332 - It's not about one player calling other players out. It's about getting them to understand this is part of the culture, it is what is expected to win. I don't think Minnesota ever had that. At least not everyone was on the same page about it.
I wish KG were there for Wiggins’ entire tenure in Minnesota. It seemed like he was really able to motivate and get through to Wiggins
or knock wiggins' teeth out
@@WOSHIYEBO that too🤣🤣🤣
Nah. Some guys have it. Some don't. Wiggins just don't have it in his DNA. You cannot motivate just by your presence. Can't change someone's core fundamentals unless they want it themselves.
He balling rn just had 40 points
You mean Flip Saunders was there, as he is the one whom engineered the build, KG just played a part of it.
Andrew "He's gonna break out this year" Wiggins
i mean he is , atleast his defence is
I legit think he's going to do it next year
He gonna BUST out for sure
@@coajdka Klay is coming back meaning he's getting less touches.
Sometimes being hyped, respected, recognized and paid too early before you win or achieve something great is bad. People are not always committed to win, sometimes they are into something just for the rewards that will follow. When they get those rewards early they kind of lose interest for what they are doing.
Its disappointing
(Cough) Ben Simmons (Cough).
as disappointing as wiggins has been so far. he’s not even the worst bust of that 2014 draft
He's not a bust period. Career averages of 20 pts 4.5 rebs 2.5 assists are above average numbers
Prospect of Giannis and Embiid playing together still haunts Bucks fans
@@bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee but they chose jabari parker 😭😭😭
@@santideleon6825 tbf Jabari was good he just couldn't stay healthy.
@@dabalo3995 Yes he was, averaged 20 pts in his third season on 49% from the field, but he's never been Embiid level and that must hurt
When your in Minnesota and nobody is playing defense then shit I wouldn’t either
I've always thought it was 2 reasons, Andrew Wiggins lack of motivation and the Twolves awful team culture. Wiggins is doing well now, because he's on a good team with a better culture
lack of motivation is an underrated reason as to why players underperform
and also draymond green , you see how he screams at wiggins
Doing well? That’s a bit generous.
@@cheese3772 Warriors would be a bottom 5 team without Wiggins, Curry is overrated and Oubre is ass.
@@authenticinari-fox8164 Probably the worst take I’ve ever seen.
11:04 "B-but Wiggins you pwomised🥺..."
:3
when i watch the second channel, it's like I'm watching a completely different guy, this jacob is so sophisticated, but the other one, man oh man😂, fucking dad jokes and burps all the time and an occasional only fans left ankle peek😂
Lmfao...
coming back here after GSW won in the WCF and Wiggs first final being a great defender and scoring contributor. good thing GSW got him and stuck with him.
still a fan of wiggins he's got a lot of talent he just needs to work on it. yes he was disappointing but he's still young
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Now that Rusty made this video Wiggins is gone be the Goat
well...
Lol. RB, you are great but it is hilarious how bad this video aged. The Wigs take, the Gus Johnson sweatshirt, the Anthony Edwards bit... Props for not wiping it from existence.
Good shit man. Easily becoming one of my favorite youtubers now. The new content is just wonderful. Deep dives like these are gonna have you going far! Keep it up
As a wolves fan, this makes me depressed.
Be depressed by the incompetent mess that is your team... not Wiggins... I know Wiggins is a disappointment so far but at the same time how many young prospects have the Wolves managed to develop into great players? Ummm... ONLY FUCKING ONE!!! And that one was Kevin fucking Garnett who is one of the toughest and most aggressive SoBs to ever play in the NBA combined with amazing talent from the day he walked in, meaning it wasn't even that hard to develop him... he had the mentality of a great player from day one... he wasn't some scared kid...
Sorry, but people acting like every 18-19 year old kid that comes into the NBA knows the exact way to develop his raw talent into "the next Kobe" is incredibly naive... being in a good franchise counts A LOT... especially for a kid like Wiggins that wasn't some ultra aggressive, confident dude... Wiggins is more like Steph and Klay than he is KG or Kobe... he smiles a lot, he enjoys relaxed people around him and not ultra aggressive "alpha dogs" that chew you 50 times a day which is why in GSW he's been showing what kind of basketball he should have been playing all along... cause his defense is DPOY level this year which everyone disregards cause "he doesn't put up enough points"... which is bullshit... an almost 20ppg DPOY level defender is an EXCELLENT player... not just good...
Idk how ur team didnt make him a good defender unlike gs
@@sportschool3537 yeah okay
This needs a follow up video
As of about 10 mins ago Two-Way Wiggs got a shiny new freshly fried Chip! Thanks for supplying the SALT Brah!
This is by far some of your best content ever. If need to cut down on the number of videos to keep making these, please do. This is amazing
And cut the cursing too
@@michaelkay5268 why that makes it more authentic
@@michaelkay5268, he’s an adult and can say what he wants
Its disappointing that he may never reach his full potential but at least he's doing great in Golden State
Because Kerr is one of the best coach that can push his players to the limit. And he manage to squeeze wiggins for at least 25% 😂
Once klay comes back i think he'll be starting aswell as a great defender and can make shots from three and midrange
Because Golden State has a better system.
His numbers have never been worse lol
They’re not in the playoffs chief
Glad "Two Way Wiggs" is on my team! So Dubs won that trade, right?
Yes, Warriors theoretically win this trade with the pieces they recieved. That Top 3 protected is looking real promising for the Warriors due to the Wolves self destructive season. What would D'lo do? He's horrible defensively and is utterly useless off the ball. So you give off D'Lo for Wiggins (who's been a two way threat so far) and hypothetically a top 3 pick.
they definately won it.. wiggs looks like a late bloomer to me
This did not age well lol...dude had some of the most posterizing dunks of the year, he's now literally locked up Luka who's considered to be the best offensive player in the playoffs, his efficiency has improved tremendously... he's way more aggressive and he's about to go to the finals lol I would not call that a bust
Still wasted generational talent tho🤷
I remember once during his rookie or sophomore yr, he hit this sweet dream shake fadeaway over Kobe (Kobe was on his retirement tour I think). And as they were running back on D, Kobe laughed and said “that looked familiar” and Wiggins replied “I learned that from you” and Kobe praised him postgame too. I thought that kind of recognition and praise would push Wiggins to work as hard as possible - at times he even looked like a young Kobe early on in terms of his build and game. But he just didn’t have the drive to get anywhere near that level. What a shame.
Wiggins in Minnesota was the epitome of empty stats.
So are Kats
This video isn’t aging well
Man love these deep dive vids 10/10, keep up the great work!
If anyone is still disputing this, he has 16 career win shares in 480 games, Jimmy butler has 77 win shares in 590 games
Butler has been an all-nba talent for 4 or 5 years now. Let's not act like of course he has more total win shares.
Also wiggins played on terrible teams for most of his career. You get more win shares when you win more games.
Wiggins and Butler are also pretty close in total points, but yea u rite
@@moto2442 ok how about VORP? An individual stat. Wiggins has a career VORP of 0.3, he’s been a replacement player his whole career. Meanwhile Jimmy’s VORP this year in only 18 games is 1.1. Jimmy has been more Valuable this year than Wiggins has his entire career.
@@moto2442 tired of people saying Wiggins played on terrible teams. He was the reason they didn’t play so well. That wolves team throughout wiggins’ tenure had KAT, lavine, butler etc. jimmy butler said it himself Wiggins and kat are soft, there is no reason they shouldn’t have won more.
@@thesneakygamer4343 They were 3rd in the west behind The Warriors and the rockets before Jimmy got injured. They were winking fine
Have you ever thought that our timeline may be part of like the 1% of timelines that Wiggins doesn't become a superstar
What’s up with the profile picture
Our timeline is just the timeline where the most significance award Wiggins can earn is most improved and 6th man of the year besides that he ain't winning no finals MVP, no all star selections, no MVPs none of that, only role player typa awards
You're probably correct, but remember, this is the timeline where the 2020 we got happened. In that alternate timeline, Kobe might have busted out of the league in 5 years, had a solid career in Europe, he is still alive and well, and we might have gotten a 2020 that didn't blow ass.
@@thegoat2874 I put that profile picture for years ago and it's like an unwritten rule between me and my friends that I can't change it neither can I change my Instagram name
@@gitermav2749 ωραίος
Your intros to these deep dives have been amazing. Your writing is getting so good.
THESE NBA DEEP DIVES SLAP THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK RUSTY MAMBA MENTALITY
I wanna see rusty get success from these deep dives. great content 🐐
watching this after game 5
I saw Wiggins in high school at the City of Palms tournament in Fort Myers. I never heard of him going in and turned to my buddy after his game and just said, “wow.”
This video is fantastic!!! Very good job
This aged terribly in a great way
Not really he had a potential and athletic ability to be a star player, even after helping the warriors to the championship he’s not a star and didn’t deserve that all star starting spot
not necessarily. wiggins is playing good. but not #1 pick good. especially for the amount of hype he had.
26 and 13 in game 5 of the 2022 finals
Amazing work Rusty. Love the new direction. Keep it up man!
more of these rusty! Love the content and as a long time sub, its crazy to see the improvement. Excited to witness your bright future on this site bro!
I think you understated how valuable wiggins has been for the warriors' defense. He always gets assigned with defending the best wing/guard on the opposing team and he's defending them at a high level. He's also being a pretty good playmaker when he slashes for the warriors. He's been okay offensively and he could improve more. The problem right now with the warriors' second unit is wannamaker. He's been shooting the ball a lot thinking he's steph curry or something, which takes the ball away from wiggins, the supposed first option in the second unit. It's not helping that kelly has a scorer's mentality and takes even more away from wiggins
Rusty took an L with this video.
Great freaking show man. I love these breakdowns yo!! Keep up the great work homie
I love these deep dives and your vids in general
how abt now fam?
His defence this year has been amazing and he’s in the run for all team defence
Watching This After Wiggins Won A ring With the Warriors
Saying Wiggins hype was equal to Zions makes me question whether you were around to watch when Wiggins was drafted.
Right. That was a crazy statement. Only LBJ had Zion type hype
He was even overhyped at Kansas. His draft stock stayed high because scouts were still holding onto his high school work.
This aged well
Really love the new format, always loved what you had to say but the editing and the face cam makes it so much enjoyable to watch. The rythm is good too. I know it's a lot of work, so I have to let you know it's worth it in my view ! Thank a lot for your content. I obviously don't agree with all your takes, but hell I don't agree with all mines either so that's part of the game. Big shoutout from Switzerland !
Subscribed and liked. Your content is consistent and informative. You're one of the few SERIOUS/PROFESSIONAL sports commentators.
I don't want basketball, i watch your channel, and I've learned so much about basketball people believe i watch it. Hahaha, thanks Rusty.
Tatum over Wiggins. What a take in June 2022.
As a Warriors fan …no Wiggins slander accepted SMH
I agree bro I’m not a warriors fan I’m a raps fan and I’ve watched def a handful full of games and Andrew Wiggins has been amazing. His defence has been great so far.
Wiggins is so mediocre
@@612biggie I mean I feel like we use the word mediocre far too much. Wiggins a 18-20 PPG scorer. He's inefficient (bar this year), yes but that's still better than quite a good amount of solid role players in the league. Wiggins is an above average player. The issue is, his expectations were on the level of a Lebron, KD, Kobe, Curry, etc. type players that change entire franchises. Whether or not that's on him or the Wolves is up for debate.
@@Butteebean5775 i think if he puts up nba superstar numbers and continues to play elite level with the warriors, then it would be the twolves fault
@@FaposaurusRex69 KD was playing at an 'Elite Level' when he brought the Warriors back-to-back chips. The only thing close to 'Elite' about Wiggins is his $147 Million contract.
These are great man.
Very well done video, love the direction of the channel, haven’t subscribed yet, but 3-4 videos in I feel the algorithm will likely convince me of its lasting worth, cheers, great work no doubt
Sheesh...Aged like milk
Like feet cheese
@@youarebeingtrolled6954 or ball cheese🤮
God I love Andrew Wiggins. I really hope he turns it around.
been binging these, love your stuff!
These topics are fire my dude. You should do a deep dive into underdog teams that ended up winning chips: 04 pistons, 10 mavs etc and why they worked vs the team with the better duos.
And then he won a chip and became a star in GSW.
Has anyone else noticed that the way wiggins laughs is eerily similar to the way kobe does?
I haven’t even watched the video yet and I can already tell this is my new favorite series on CZcams
Excellent in-depth video!
Here after Wiggins Smushed Luka
Seeing the way that he is playing with the warriors, I honestly believe Wiggins would not be the level of bust that he is if he was drafted to an immediate contender.
Great video, loved your dry yet humorous, very to the point way of speaking, quite an entertaining vid.
I'm loving these deep dives
Yknow, looking back the wiggins-bennett deal for Kevin Love was an absolute steal
whos here after he dropped 35 with 2 dunks on kat
Your production quality has clearly improved alot, keep at er man ! great video
I love these style of videos rusty🤙
I remember thinking that the Cavs were insane for trading Wiggins for love, because Wiggins would be a great option on a title team and an eventual superstar, love wouldn't last much longer, and lebron wouldn't be a great player for too much longer. I guess I was 1 for 3.
Love was still injury prone and Wiggins is not he needed another scorer in that 2015 finals he could’ve easily won
Wiggins was supposed to be what Zach Lavine is right now but with defense.
Oh.. then he didn’t underachieve that much. I thought people expected him to be Jordan 3.0 or Kobe 2.0
@@cheerioss-9121 you’re underestimating how good Lavine is, not his fault Bulls aren’t good
Wiggins could do the same thing as lavine he just has a green light to do whatever in Minnesota he played with kat and in gsw he plays with curry no one on the bulls needs touches likevthat
@@cheerioss-9121 lavine with elite defense is an all time great
Love the deep dive videos.
All those characteristics and they forgot the main ones. Heart and passion
Imagine what the wolves could have been like with him reaching his potential and KAT
I’m so happy that this video didn’t age well
before i even watch this, rusty, you’re the man, you’re content has been top-notch since i started following you about a year ago, you have the equivalent of mamba mentality when it comes to making videos so please don’t overwork yourself man
I’ve been following your videos for a long time. It’s crazy how your content as improved. The anti-Wiggins trajectory 😂. Good on ya mate! Favorite video so far!
*'21-22 Wiggins has entered the chat*
My boy andrew did It ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️ bye bye haters 👋👋👋👋
Love that new format
You killed the like goal!
The 2 big problems were lack of motivation and a poor team culture. Now that he is on golden state, a team known for its incredible culture, he is more motivated and he isn't doing to bad for himself
R.I.P. the green screen you will forever be missed
This vid deserves a lot of respect. I can tell you put ur all into it and a very great topic to talk about overall. Also yes It’s a shame to see a player like Wiggins didn’t come close what he was suppose to be.
Deep dives are my personal favorite