Who Trolled Amber? | Episode 4: Through the looking glass

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  • čas přidán 11. 03. 2024
  • The astonishing case of a teenage killer helps lift the lid on how bot campaigns work - and offers the team a new path forward in the investigation.
    This is Who Trolled Amber? - a new podcast series about how our own thoughts and opinions can be moulded without us even realising.
    Who Trolled Amber is the latest series in Tortoise Investigates, the home of Tortoise's award-winning investigative series.
    Listen to the full series now by becoming a Tortoise member or subscribing to Tortoise+ on Apple Podcasts: tortoisemedia.onelink.me/Cx9d...

Komentáře • 28

  • @kendallmonge649
    @kendallmonge649 Před 4 měsíci +10

    Yet another absolutely incredible episode. Those of us who have been harangued by obvious bots for defending Amber on social media (or even for lightly questioning the ridiculous amount of harassment she received) are so grateful for this exposé. Can't wait for Parts 5 and 6 - and thanks for posting it on CZcams!

  • @dlasta
    @dlasta Před 4 měsíci +10

    Another excellent episode.:)

  • @dafnifez
    @dafnifez Před 4 měsíci +17

    Thank you for yet another insightful episode! It makes so much sense now how attacking Amber would have served the interests of both Depp and Mohammed bin Salman: Given how close Depp has been to bin Salman since 2016 (and given that they're both criminals, including wifebeaters), it was *inevitable* that he would use his bot and troll army to help Depp attack Amber. For bin Salman's benefit, this attack would have aided his global and local political interests by undermining women's rights movements in the US and the UK, especially the MeToo movement.

  • @lesbukashka
    @lesbukashka Před 4 měsíci +15

    Parasocial phenomenon, that's the answer. Ted Bundy was considered as charming man and his female fans wanted to marry him while he was on trial for the murders of young women and girls, and of course it was televised nationally in US. Same as OJ because he was beloved superstar, and juries' parasocial attitude was involved, and it happened again with Spacey, who's very much a guilty man, a find him not guilty is a crime against victims. Powerful public figures need to stand in front of a panel of experts and judges who can look past the pomp and circumstances and really examine the evidence. In the case of Depp, his team chose a state in which neither he nor Amber lived or worked, otherwise he would have lost again in Los Angeles, plus the intervention of the jury, who were selected on the basis of fanaticism to one person (it was not difficult to guess), plus anti slaap issues, and a figure, which linked to Russia's propaganda machine and that's why and how jd won.

  • @hereinmyhansonshirt
    @hereinmyhansonshirt Před 4 měsíci +14

    Thank you so much for your work. It is so appreciated.

  • @makivy9727
    @makivy9727 Před 4 měsíci +13

    How many episode total? Really good.

  • @lauralot1989
    @lauralot1989 Před 4 měsíci +12

    Thank you for your amazing, in depth research.

  • @HokumeSurxayzade
    @HokumeSurxayzade Před 4 měsíci +9

    SURVlVOR

  • @cynthiahaney3229
    @cynthiahaney3229 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Love it I believe ❤❤❤

  • @chrislastname1994
    @chrislastname1994 Před 14 dny

    You dont get sophisticated bots or information dissemination for 100 dollars. Sure you can buy bots, but if you're talking about a coordinated campaign its a different matter.

  • @Bellatrys
    @Bellatrys Před 4 měsíci +1

    Wait, the. Cameron case went global?
    Which global does this presenter mean. Never heard of him.

    • @getschwifty5271
      @getschwifty5271 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Well if you've never heard of it certainly couldn't be global lol

    • @kendallmonge649
      @kendallmonge649 Před 4 měsíci +3

      "Global" doesn't necessarily mean every single person on the planet would have heard of it. For what it is worth, I 100% remember Cameron's case - and while I am American, I'm not even on TikTok (and hardly on Twitter). It was huge, artificial, and strange.

    • @nicolebesser3548
      @nicolebesser3548 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Cameron Herring. There are tons of videos on him right here on CZcams. I guess he isn't Johnny so you missed it. Was happening at the same time Depp flying monkeys were slinging shit.

  • @Ruedigerkackgans12
    @Ruedigerkackgans12 Před 4 měsíci +2

    It's almost scary how well Dr curry described amber.
    To this day she is externalizing the blame for her being found liable, it's no secret amber is behind this podcast. At this point I really believe she is incapable of accepting blame.
    You could have video footage of her murdering someone and she would not accept the blame for that. It's a scary thought but that is who she seems to be

    • @Muirmaiden
      @Muirmaiden Před 4 měsíci +1

      Dr. Curry is friends with Depp's attorney Camille Vasquez and even met Depp for drinks before the trial. She's not reliable.

    • @nicolebesser3548
      @nicolebesser3548 Před 4 měsíci +11

      There is video of Depp being violent around her and destroying her property. Yet...I am sure you have coped up an excuse for that. The irony is blatant. Curry misrepresented scores in the normal range. That is scary. It's also scary how multiple therapists refuted her, yet you cling to Curry the least experienced, spent the least time with her and paid no mind to years of treatment that preceded her.

    • @Ruedigerkackgans12
      @Ruedigerkackgans12 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@nicolebesser3548 I don't have any excuses for the video you are referring to. Depp was violent and drunk. He didn't lay a hand on her though.
      What is your excuse for her leaking the video to tmz and cutting out the part where she was smirking at the end

    • @nicolebesser3548
      @nicolebesser3548 Před 4 měsíci +9

      @@Ruedigerkackgans12 She wasn't smirking and SHE didn't leak it. And he was violent with her. You are high on copium. Your original comment was pure projection as demonstrated by your reply. Have the day you deserve.

    • @Munah722-m4q
      @Munah722-m4q Před 3 měsíci

      @@nicolebesser3548 that was not HER PROPERTY…she didn’t have the money to live in that million dollar penthouses..she wasn’t even in Aquaman where she got her first $1M income 🤡….yes depp was drunk and violent to cabinets as you can see from the video that Amber Turd leaked to TMZ. 😭 And no one excusing that as JD was even cross examined on this.

  • @spankflaps1365
    @spankflaps1365 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I reckon it was thingy who dunnit.