@Χρυσή Πετρίδου σορρυ αλλά όχι😭 απλώς προσπαθώ να μάθω τους τόνους όσο πιο καλά μπορώ, οπότε βλέπω πολλά βίντεο σχετικά με αυτούς. Νομίζω πώς θα το δω όμως!
I can't believe you chose a clip from the Untamed - as you absolutely should!! I was already learning Chinese, but it was the show that motivated me to enrol in HSK5 classes and continue improving. Thanks for the lesson!
As a part-time private Mandarin tutor, thank you for putting out this video. 👍🏽 It's so frustrating that books and apps teach something that isn't correct in real life. It also makes the students unnecessarily confused between the second tone and the third tone. 🤦🏽♀️
That's revolutionary stuff. I am learning chinese for over 20 years, but I always struggled with the 3rd tone. I would say my pronunciation is fairly good for a foreigner, which does not mean much(compare yourself always to native speskers in terms of pronunciation). I had always the concept of letting the tone drop and than immediately let it rise again in my head. Thank you for your explanation. Your explanation of the 3rd tone should become the standard explanation.
I'm a simple man, I see Wei Wuxian and a Chinese lesson in one thumbnail, I click. I considered studying Chinese even before reading the story because of my friends, but I lacked something that'd keep me obsessed and engaged and give me that necessary push without having to constantly bother others and embarrass myself. And then Chinese web novels and The Untamed blew up lol Also that's a nice explanation, makes it even clearer to understand. Though I still struggle a lot with figuring out the correct pronunciation when there are more than two 3rd tones in a row
Yeah I don't know how many times I've been put off trying to pronounce a word with a third tone because of how unnatural it felt to try to fall and rise all in one letter sound. I think it's maybe taught that way because when it's in the context of the word, it naturally sounds like it falls when you go into the third tone then rises when you come out of it despite the fact that the tone itself is flat. I'm so glad he explained it this way. I don't think I ever would have figured that out on my own (as dense as that sounds).
Likely because that's what's first taught to children native to the language (as in, when we're 2-4 first learning to talk). We gradually grow out of it and into what standard pronounciation used commonly. Though even I'm not too clear as to why. In younger years teachers let it slide with a reminder, but as you grow older to pronounce it like that is asking for embarrassment. My guess is it's related to children learn to pronounce the tones with imagery and imagination to , the first tone is flat, so the sound made is flat, the second goes up, your tone rises too, the same concept for the fourth which is written downwards, but not for the third. It goes two directions, so teachers have kids prononce it falling then rising it, and 'combine it'.
@@qqingtomo4591 I'm curious - is that actually how it's taught, say, in China? We all learn Chinese as kids in Singapore and I've never learnt it that way, I just directly learnt it as the single sound that it is
Even though I don't think it's helpful, I actually don't think it's wrong - I just think one reason foreigners have a hard time with this is because in English, you put stress on either the first or second syllable of a 2-syllable word. (English is a stress-timed language, and Chinese is a syllable-timed language.) If you unconsciously emphasise or lengthen "xi-" or "-ang" in "xiang", even to a miniscule degree, you won't get a third tone. Whereas if you do falling-rising while putting equal emphasis or length on the syllables, the whole word "xiang" comes out to an overall third tone. Or if you're just doing the falling-rising on just one syllable/letter, doing it really quickly (and with falling rising in EQUAL measure) does come out to a 3rd tone too!
@@TheHothotheatlive Oh, I'm Malaysian, and most Chinese I know have experience with our teachers teaching with this method. (Especially when words without any tones, 轻音, exists n most of us couldn't really pronounce the difference) I'm not too sure if it's what's used by other Chinese in other countries though.
I'm a simple woman I saw xiao zhan so I clicked 🤭 But I stayed for your good lesson (+1 subscriber !) It was really helpful to hear the rythm with the DA DA DA methode so thanks !
You are definitely one of the best teachers online! Could you do a lesson how the tones relate to one another. I think for most English speakers we tend to forget that the tone before each tone affects how the next tone is pronounced. For example, if a first tone precedes a second tone, then that means the first tone which is the highest sounding tone dictates where the second tone starts to rise from. That second tone will definitely rise from a high note to an even higher octave because of the first tone. It will sound very different compared to a second tone coming off a third tone
i don't know if CZcams recommended this video because of The Untamed or because i study chinese but i will subscribe because in any case i'm winning 😂❤️ i love how you explained it! it makes me realize the differences between the tones when there's many of them, thanks a lot!
It’s simpler than this. The sound of the 3rd tone is dependant on the tone after it. The first example has the 2nd tone, low-high after it, so you get the mid-low part of the 3rd tone but the low-high part of the 3rd tone is left out. If it’s followed by another 3rd tone, you get the low-high part but the mid-low part is cut out. And if it’s followed by a 5th (no) tone, essentially the tone pattern spreads over the two syllables: mid-low-high spreads over 胆子 for example.
This is the first time since since using your 0 to hero course I've found such a pin point accurate lesson on intonation. Of course, it was you that made and posted it :) Thankyou so much for recognizing this common mistake and taking the time to help us correct it! Regards from Gold Coast, Australia.
When you Say that the third tone doesn't usually rise, and It should be a flat low tone, Is that the case also in Beijing? Because all of my teachers were from Beijing, and they would enunciate the third tone a lot more than people from other areas of China. Could It Be a regional thing? Thanks
even in the regions that would raise the end in 3rd tones, it is usually way way subtler than most learners do, so keeping it flat with a tiny implied but unvoiced raise is usually enough. the problems is usually learners say it in way that is identical to the 2nd tone.
I learnt my mandarin in Beijing and in my experience the 3rd tone before a 2nd tone isn't quite flat, it is low and falls a bit. You are basically truncating the rising bit. I know in places like singapore the 3rd tone tends to be low and flat though. You really hear the full (low fall+rise) 3rd tone only when it is at the end of intonational phrase.
@@audreygao7644 I meant to Say that to me It sounds like people from Beijing have stronger and more pronounced tones. I also noticed that Beijingers also strongly pronounce the "ing" "ang" etc
@Chinese zero to hero Two thing I noticed in this lesson. N - We tend to say a short quick n, but it should be pronounced as a thick N. A - Da sounds like a few a's (Daa). Dan has a short a.
As a European I'd like to share some advice that really helped me! I have been taking singing lessons ever since childhood and the practice of intervals in classic music really helped me in combination with tone training for chinese pronounciation! If you struggle greatly with the correct tones even after some times, you might try to really take a step back completely, do some vocal training and them maybe get together with a chinese friend and learn to read traditional poetry :) This helped me a lot with my every day pronounciation after getting stuck for a while
I'm so glad to see this video. It's been a while since I started noticing that this bloody third tone actually doesn't rise as I had always read about. You are the first who explicitly sais that the third tone is just flat and low. Thank you!
Fantastic fantastic explanation ! Perfect to practice along. I found such clarity only in classes at 北语速成学院 (BLCU intensive college) and nowhere else. Thank you
I learned a lot watching this video, and this guy is so good I felt the need to fix my accent and was saying the words along with him until I remembered I don't speak Mandarin😂
Third tone is indeed pronounced as in the sign which is first down then up. But there is one rule in chinese pronounciation which is "it should flow naturally". If you keep this in mind then the changing tone is acceptable. For instance. Try to read third tone + third tone without changing the first one into second tone. You will feel uneasy or even exhausted and it also slow you down. By changing the tone according to the tone rule it sounds smooth and easy. Compare them and see for yourself. Back to the third tone it self. If you pronounce a third tone by itself then you should pronounce the origin tone which is fall then rise but pronounce this in a sentence woudnt make sense as it "again" will exhaust you and sounds weird. So in a middle of a sentence "the falling then rising in the third tone" is vanished and it is just like put them together and pronounce as if flat tone as in the video. But this flat tone will sound lower than the flat tone in first tone. You can try to pronounce it like the original tone but quicker and let lose, I mean dont force yourself to make the falling then rising effect so obvious indeed just let it "smooth" and simplify the tone as low flat tone and it will sounds like the one in this video. Of course you can pronounce the origin third tone in the end of the sentence or at a pause since it won't affect "the flow of your pronounciation".
😍❤wow cool, i always find it hard to pronounced the third tone. Because i usually confused it with the second tone. Thank you very much, this is very helpful🥰❤❤ 多谢
CZcams recommended this to me because I've been watching MDZS on Tencent. I'm learning Korean and have Japanese on the back burner but your videos are so nice and I've been enjoying a lot of Chinese media lately so...subscribed and added to the list of languages I'd love to learn one day!
I saw Xiao Zhan photo I clicked on the video as fast as I can 🤣. I am one of Xiao Zhan’s international fans, from Sweden 🇸🇪. Xiao Zhan forever ❤️❤️❤️❤️
I don't watch dramas, so the thumbnail reference is lost on me. But, I still immediately subscribed. This video has the clearest and simplest explanation for tones I've ever seen. I'm very interested in your course now. My brain is like an unsorted spreadsheet of Chinese words and sayings. I can't always put it together to form coherent thoughts, and too afraid to use what I know. I want to change that.
I think that thinking instead of the 3rd tone as dipping down helps to avoid from trying to rise. the sound drops quickly, lower into your throat, and if there is a “rise” it’s only back to the original pitch you started the word with.
My former Chinese professor wrote his Doctoral Dissertation on this phenomenon. Nice video! Thanks for helping all of us Chinese learners out here. I will continue to practice Chinese in videos :)
Wow I was feeling so stupid for not being able to pronounce it the way EVERY book and app explains it... turns out they explain it wrong omg thank you!
Laoshi knows his audience well 😂😂 clicked because of the thumbnail, stayed for the helpful advice
老帅 (Laoshi) also has a third tone! Waddyaknow!
I also clicked because of the thumbnail hahahahahhahahahaha
plz fr- i just saw wuxian and clicked BAHHAH
Hahahahaha
Nobody here because they saw Wuxian in the thumbnail? Okay.....
I sometimes hear Wuxian actors pronouncing words not identical with standard Putonghua.
CMIIW.....
yeah :)))
Me me me 🤣
Xiao Zhan forever ❤️❤️❤️❤️
present !! LMAOO
@@ayi3455
The untamed was dubbed 🙄. That’s not WuXian (Xiao Zhan) real voice, it was a voice actor 😏
The fact that I came for the Wei Wuxian clip and ended up finding this incredible key to improve my pronunciation. Definently staying with you
I am so glad we Mandarin learners can all come together and appreciate The Untamed on this awesome lesson video 😂😂
@Χρυσή Πετρίδου Προσπαθώ κι εγώ να μάθω κινέζικα (μόνη μου), και οι τόνοι είναι τόσο δύσκολοι😭
@Χρυσή Πετρίδου Ευχαριστώ πολύ για τη συμβουλή! Θα προσπαθήσω να πείσω τους γονείς μου να ξεκινήσω μαθήματα κινεζικών!
@Χρυσή Πετρίδου Δεν έχω discord, αλλά πες μου το user σου για να το έχω σε περίπτωση που φτιάξω:))
@Χρυσή Πετρίδου σορρυ αλλά όχι😭 απλώς προσπαθώ να μάθω τους τόνους όσο πιο καλά μπορώ, οπότε βλέπω πολλά βίντεο σχετικά με αυτούς. Νομίζω πώς θα το δω όμως!
I liked this "da da da" method!
By the way, I love this drama!
Same
I love how he teachs and that he uses dramas
That's genius, never heard anybody teach this way, making so much sense
I can't believe you chose a clip from the Untamed - as you absolutely should!! I was already learning Chinese, but it was the show that motivated me to enrol in HSK5 classes and continue improving. Thanks for the lesson!
What is HSK class. I'm a beginner in learning Chinese. Can you please recommend good sites/ place. Thanks.
Also thanks for choosing the first episode, to avoid spoiling it for those who are still watching it :P
As a part-time private Mandarin tutor, thank you for putting out this video. 👍🏽 It's so frustrating that books and apps teach something that isn't correct in real life. It also makes the students unnecessarily confused between the second tone and the third tone. 🤦🏽♀️
你是韩国人吗？我也在学韩语，很难，今天去买炸酱面，老板娘问我要不要筷子我没听懂😭
@@ChineseZeroToHero 我不是韩国人。但是我有很多韩国朋友，而且我也有教韩国人英文和中文。我也非常喜欢"BLACKPINK"这个女团，经常观看她们的视频，甚至还学会了几首韩国歌。因此，我多多少少听得懂韩语。您现在住在韩国吗？不要气馁，毕竟韩文和中文有一些字是相似的。加油！화이팅! 😁
Exactly this. 谢谢老师！
Got here because of xiao zhan.. But also loved your video because I am learning Chinese and that too because of xiao zhan and Wang yibo
That's revolutionary stuff. I am learning chinese for over 20 years, but I always struggled with the 3rd tone. I would say my pronunciation is fairly good for a foreigner, which does not mean much(compare yourself always to native speskers in terms of pronunciation). I had always the concept of letting the tone drop and than immediately let it rise again in my head. Thank you for your explanation. Your explanation of the 3rd tone should become the standard explanation.
I'm a simple man, I see Wei Wuxian and a Chinese lesson in one thumbnail, I click. I considered studying Chinese even before reading the story because of my friends, but I lacked something that'd keep me obsessed and engaged and give me that necessary push without having to constantly bother others and embarrass myself. And then Chinese web novels and The Untamed blew up lol
Also that's a nice explanation, makes it even clearer to understand. Though I still struggle a lot with figuring out the correct pronunciation when there are more than two 3rd tones in a row
czcams.com/video/fEY9D_bsOQY/video.html watch from 1:43
So every book teaches this wrongly. The question though is: whyyyyy? (do they do that). Great vid btw.
Yeah I don't know how many times I've been put off trying to pronounce a word with a third tone because of how unnatural it felt to try to fall and rise all in one letter sound. I think it's maybe taught that way because when it's in the context of the word, it naturally sounds like it falls when you go into the third tone then rises when you come out of it despite the fact that the tone itself is flat. I'm so glad he explained it this way. I don't think I ever would have figured that out on my own (as dense as that sounds).
Likely because that's what's first taught to children native to the language (as in, when we're 2-4 first learning to talk). We gradually grow out of it and into what standard pronounciation used commonly. Though even I'm not too clear as to why. In younger years teachers let it slide with a reminder, but as you grow older to pronounce it like that is asking for embarrassment.
My guess is it's related to children learn to pronounce the tones with imagery and imagination to , the first tone is flat, so the sound made is flat, the second goes up, your tone rises too, the same concept for the fourth which is written downwards, but not for the third. It goes two directions, so teachers have kids prononce it falling then rising it, and 'combine it'.
@@qqingtomo4591 I'm curious - is that actually how it's taught, say, in China? We all learn Chinese as kids in Singapore and I've never learnt it that way, I just directly learnt it as the single sound that it is
Even though I don't think it's helpful, I actually don't think it's wrong - I just think one reason foreigners have a hard time with this is because in English, you put stress on either the first or second syllable of a 2-syllable word. (English is a stress-timed language, and Chinese is a syllable-timed language.) If you unconsciously emphasise or lengthen "xi-" or "-ang" in "xiang", even to a miniscule degree, you won't get a third tone. Whereas if you do falling-rising while putting equal emphasis or length on the syllables, the whole word "xiang" comes out to an overall third tone.
Or if you're just doing the falling-rising on just one syllable/letter, doing it really quickly (and with falling rising in EQUAL measure) does come out to a 3rd tone too!
@@TheHothotheatlive Oh, I'm Malaysian, and most Chinese I know have experience with our teachers teaching with this method. (Especially when words without any tones, 轻音, exists n most of us couldn't really pronounce the difference) I'm not too sure if it's what's used by other Chinese in other countries though.
I am a very simple girl, I see Wei Wuxian, I click.
Yeeeaaah love this story
Me: didn't realize the untamed thumbnail...
Me when I watched the first example: *subscribe*
Your lessons has improved over the years. You guys are becoming more organized.
The hard work is appreciated 💜
Have
Two of my favorite things combined : learning Chinese and The Untamed😍🤭
Thanks, John! Ten years learning chinese and it I have finally heard third tone is low and flat! You´re an amazing teacher! Thanks a lot!
谢谢老师！I find that this is the tone pattern I have the most trouble with.
Me: Knows Mandarin very well
Also me: click into the video because of its thumbnail 😂
I’m a HUGE fan of The Untamed 😅
SAME
Same
I am fan of Xiao Zhan, only him. ❤️❤️❤️
U are Chinese?
@@littlecup5695 Yep 😀
Six years of study, thousands of conversations, and only now do i learn how the third tone is actually pronounced lol
Never trust theories better than your own ears :)
I'm a simple woman I saw xiao zhan so I clicked 🤭 But I stayed for your good lesson (+1 subscriber !) It was really helpful to hear the rythm with the DA DA DA methode so thanks !
You are definitely one of the best teachers online! Could you do a lesson how the tones relate to one another. I think for most English speakers we tend to forget that the tone before each tone affects how the next tone is pronounced. For example, if a first tone precedes a second tone, then that means the first tone which is the highest sounding tone dictates where the second tone starts to rise from. That second tone will definitely rise from a high note to an even higher octave because of the first tone. It will sound very different compared to a second tone coming off a third tone
Me a simple kid, I see Wei Ying, I CLICK lol
It took me a year in China and 10 years of linguistics behind to really get it. Thanks for confirming it.
i was having trouble with the 3rd tone, so this helped a lot!
Me: This will be very userful...
See Wei Wuxian
Me: OH MY FUCKI-
Quickly Click
No idea why this is in my recommended, but really interesting video and you have a really relaxing voice!
i don't know if CZcams recommended this video because of The Untamed or because i study chinese but i will subscribe because in any case i'm winning 😂❤️ i love how you explained it! it makes me realize the differences between the tones when there's many of them, thanks a lot!
You have helped me out so much with this tone!! The 3rd tone is the reason why I always skipped learning Mandarin :(
i truly love this pronunciation guides. Merci
I want to get the Ultimate Bundle~ may i get an coupon ? :P
Lovely greetings from Germany
哇，从小到大学的都说第三声是先降后扬，所以给外国人解释的时候都是这样说的，从来没想过其实是low flat，你的发音很清楚（在我听来哈哈）。感谢解释！
Third tone is a low falling tone in most cases, falling-rising in isolation. Good explanation.
We really appreciate the hardwork you are doing
FINALLY! I KNEW IT! Thank you for explaining!😀
It’s simpler than this. The sound of the 3rd tone is dependant on the tone after it. The first example has the 2nd tone, low-high after it, so you get the mid-low part of the 3rd tone but the low-high part of the 3rd tone is left out. If it’s followed by another 3rd tone, you get the low-high part but the mid-low part is cut out. And if it’s followed by a 5th (no) tone, essentially the tone pattern spreads over the two syllables: mid-low-high spreads over 胆子 for example.
AH! Cool, never thought of it that way!
The chemistry of tones
Yes but this doesn't apply in Taiwan, Singapore and Southern China, where the 3rd tone stays as the 3rd tone no matter what :)
@@TheHothotheatlive Yeah i noticed that
This might be useful:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Chinese_phonology#Tone_sandhi
This is the first time since since using your 0 to hero course I've found such a pin point accurate lesson on intonation. Of course, it was you that made and posted it :)
Thankyou so much for recognizing this common mistake and taking the time to help us correct it!
Regards from Gold Coast, Australia.
That’s very much for this video! Very helpful, I’m positive I’ve been saying 3rd tone wrong in some situations
I am a very simple person. I see MDZS/The Untamed, I click.
I have literally 0 experience with chinese but this was very interesting and seeing the untamed thumbnail interested me
Thank you for sharing this!
this guy is good, very easy to follow, never thought about this 3rd tone like this, know understand it much more after years living in China lol
This is literally the most helpful thing ive ever seen thank you
Excellent lesson!!! Using the DA syllable really works wonders!!!
This is going to come in really handy the next time I go back to China. Thanks for uploading these videos!
When you Say that the third tone doesn't usually rise, and It should be a flat low tone, Is that the case also in Beijing? Because all of my teachers were from Beijing, and they would enunciate the third tone a lot more than people from other areas of China. Could It Be a regional thing? Thanks
even in the regions that would raise the end in 3rd tones, it is usually way way subtler than most learners do, so keeping it flat with a tiny implied but unvoiced raise is usually enough. the problems is usually learners say it in way that is identical to the 2nd tone.
I learnt my mandarin in Beijing and in my experience the 3rd tone before a 2nd tone isn't quite flat, it is low and falls a bit. You are basically truncating the rising bit. I know in places like singapore the 3rd tone tends to be low and flat though.
You really hear the full (low fall+rise) 3rd tone only when it is at the end of intonational phrase.
Hi! I'm from Beijing, so hopefully I can answer your question. What do you mean by enunciate?
@@audreygao7644 I meant to Say that to me It sounds like people from Beijing have stronger and more pronounced tones. I also noticed that Beijingers also strongly pronounce the "ing" "ang" etc
@@Sayurichyan I understand, thanks!
I'm really glad you put Wei Wuxian on the thumbnail because I clicked so fast 🤣 and this was super helpful!! This makes tones make so much more sense
Thank you so so much! This "da da da" helps a lot when practicing tones! :)
I had notice this while hearing chinese speakers, but didnt understand why. Thanks for the explanation
老师，您这个视频真的有效了！
我以前二声和三声分不清，现在才清楚了。
多谢老师🙏🏻
3rd tone is always the tricky one
glad i had a chance to watch your video and improve it a little
thank you)
Great topic, thanks
I love learning when I see xiao zhan in it ❤️ thanks for incorporating the untamed scenes in your lessons🥲💕
Why am I watching this when I'm a native speaker?😂
我甚至还跟着他读了起来👀
@@luludu2144 哈哈，我也是🤫
same lol
Wei Wuxian?
The thumbnail made to click on this video, best decision ever ❤️ you have a new subscriber
i'm learning mandarin and this is really helpful, thank you!!
@Chinese zero to hero Two thing I noticed in this lesson.
N - We tend to say a short quick n, but it should be pronounced as a thick N.
A - Da sounds like a few a's (Daa). Dan has a short a.
As a European I'd like to share some advice that really helped me! I have been taking singing lessons ever since childhood and the practice of intervals in classic music really helped me in combination with tone training for chinese pronounciation! If you struggle greatly with the correct tones even after some times, you might try to really take a step back completely, do some vocal training and them maybe get together with a chinese friend and learn to read traditional poetry :) This helped me a lot with my every day pronounciation after getting stuck for a while
You are doing a great job!! ✨ I hope with your help one day I can have conversation with xiao zhan about him and China and ofcourse.... 🤩
Thank you so much! I always struggled with third and second tone back to back!
You're dope! You're the best! Using Wei Ying to teach us this. Thanks!
I'm learning Chinese and I watched The untamed a time ago, of course this video would appear in my homepage 🤣
I loved it! I'm subscribed now
I don’t speak or write Chinese, but this is still interesting so im gonna stay :D
(also because I saw wei wuxian lol)
OMG!! It's magic!! Thank you so much!!!!!!
Love this.. DaDa in my country means Chest/Bosom
Your Røde is superbly adjusted.
You are wonderful!! I love your style of teaching - efficient and effective.
ahhhhh...I love your lesson..!! I want to learn mandarin because of this drama! Thank you sir.
I'm so glad to see this video. It's been a while since I started noticing that this bloody third tone actually doesn't rise as I had always read about. You are the first who explicitly sais that the third tone is just flat and low. Thank you!
I'm so glad that I found this useful channel by watching the untamed. I'm a beginner, only in HSK 1 and be keep going ;)
This is so helpful! Everything I heard from actual Chinese speakers didn't quite fit with the "falling-rising tone" description. This clears it up!
Had issues with the third tone for years this a great way to put it into context. Thanks!
wow im so glad that i have found this video!! i think studying with my favourite dramas might be a nice motivation for me 🥰
Fantastic fantastic explanation ! Perfect to practice along. I found such clarity only in classes at 北语速成学院 (BLCU intensive college) and nowhere else. Thank you
I learned a lot watching this video, and this guy is so good I felt the need to fix my accent and was saying the words along with him until I remembered I don't speak Mandarin😂
Third tone is indeed pronounced as in the sign which is first down then up.
But there is one rule in chinese pronounciation which is "it should flow naturally". If you keep this in mind then the changing tone is acceptable.
For instance. Try to read third tone + third tone without changing the first one into second tone. You will feel uneasy or even exhausted and it also slow you down. By changing the tone according to the tone rule it sounds smooth and easy. Compare them and see for yourself.
Back to the third tone it self. If you pronounce a third tone by itself then you should pronounce the origin tone which is fall then rise but pronounce this in a sentence woudnt make sense as it "again" will exhaust you and sounds weird.
So in a middle of a sentence "the falling then rising in the third tone" is vanished and it is just like put them together and pronounce as if flat tone as in the video. But this flat tone will sound lower than the flat tone in first tone. You can try to pronounce it like the original tone but quicker and let lose, I mean dont force yourself to make the falling then rising effect so obvious indeed just let it "smooth" and simplify the tone as low flat tone and it will sounds like the one in this video.
Of course you can pronounce the origin third tone in the end of the sentence or at a pause since it won't affect "the flow of your pronounciation".
oooh I love this method. it's brilliant. ive been looking for something to really help me perfect the tones, and this is it ^^ thank you!
I've struggled with this for almost a decade! 😭😭😭 Thank you so much!
This is great and very helpful. I really appreciate this. This is precisely what I need.
Rare to find a man teaching a language and actually sounds like he knows what he is talking about
I figured out this issue like 6 months ago or so. It can be very confusing for those just getting started. Very important topic!
谢谢你的重要的内容! 👍
😍❤wow cool, i always find it hard to pronounced the third tone. Because i usually confused it with the second tone. Thank you very much, this is very helpful🥰❤❤ 多谢
I missed your channel. Happy to meet this again. 👍
CZcams recommended this to me because I've been watching MDZS on Tencent. I'm learning Korean and have Japanese on the back burner but your videos are so nice and I've been enjoying a lot of Chinese media lately so...subscribed and added to the list of languages I'd love to learn one day!
This guy is a genuis. The da da system is simple but BRILLIANT!!!!
I saw Xiao Zhan photo I clicked on the video as fast as I can 🤣.
I am one of Xiao Zhan’s international fans, from Sweden 🇸🇪. Xiao Zhan forever ❤️❤️❤️❤️
this method is helping a lot !! i highly appreciate your effort! thanks this video my chinese has become a lot better
That was an amazing way to explain it!! Thankyou so much
Thanks man, I learn best by shadowing and always failed to reproduce the sound on my own following the V-shape rule
I don't watch dramas, so the thumbnail reference is lost on me. But, I still immediately subscribed. This video has the clearest and simplest explanation for tones I've ever seen. I'm very interested in your course now. My brain is like an unsorted spreadsheet of Chinese words and sayings. I can't always put it together to form coherent thoughts, and too afraid to use what I know. I want to change that.
I dont make this mistake but I can see you are a good teacher so I'm going to subscribe to you
I think that thinking instead of the 3rd tone as dipping down helps to avoid from trying to rise. the sound drops quickly, lower into your throat, and if there is a “rise” it’s only back to the original pitch you started the word with.
I think there is an exception that when two third tone characters are together, the first one is always pronounced second tone, e.g. 想（2）起（3）
Omg this video is fantastic, thank you so much, im getting back to learning Chinese
感谢老师，这个视频为我的发音有了很大的帮助！
The metaphor that stuck with me the most is bouncing a basketball. Just focus on pushing the ball down, the ball will bounce back on its own.
My former Chinese professor wrote his Doctoral Dissertation on this phenomenon. Nice video! Thanks for helping all of us Chinese learners out here. I will continue to practice Chinese in videos :)
Most clear explanation of third tone! This Da Da Da exercise is awesome. Thanks!
This was very helpful. Thank you very much for this video!
Wow I was feeling so stupid for not being able to pronounce it the way EVERY book and app explains it... turns out they explain it wrong omg thank you!
Very clear way of explaining things, subscribed.
These are important lessons for the future.
I just started learning Mandarin and finding this channel is like finding gold.