Singing Toto Africa BADLY and fixing it with AUTO-TUNE
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- čas přidán 15. 01. 2021
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Singing "Toto - Africa" very badly on purpose and trying to save it in Pro Tools. I used a FANTASTIC tool called Melodyne Essential to put the notes in pitch and MAutoPitch as an auto-tune.
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What Happened to your fingers
Have you ever tried to auto tune Bob Dylan?
@@lukasbarnes4905 Whatever it was, I didn't notice anything unusual until 9:05.
@@AJ-on-youtube Melodyne is way more advanced than Auto-Tune.
@@lukasbarnes4905 What happened to your civility?
Conclusion: a good singer will save you a LOT of time.
they dont care if you can sing now....looks FIRST...talent a distant second
Conclusion No. 2: a good singer will make a hit.
@@markfrost2707 counterpoint: Adele
@@counterfit5she's the outlier cause she was at the forefront of the "body positivity " bullshit
That shall depend on the ego of the sound engineer...
Lesson: you're not a bad singer, you're just technologically challenged
Then you have cases like me... that I guess I'd make children and dogs cry, WITH OR WITHOUT the technology. =P
He sings as well as 75% in the top 100 charts. This is what they call being an ARTIST these days. Because everyone is special?💯😆🤣
*Vocally challenged, technologically savvy
With AI you can be vocally challenged and technologically challenged cause you can just click the make it better button
Mortally challenged
Your ability to both sing terribly and fix terrible singing are equally impressive.
nothing was fixed tho, it just went from extremely bad, to really bad
@@jipvandelaar7647 that's still quite a lot of improvement. Ever hear Fergi sing without auto tune?
I can easily sing it much worse 😂
He didn't really fixed it fully, sure it was better than without the auto tune but the singing was still off key.
@@jipvandelaar7647you are deaf
I dont think people realise just how hard it IS to sing out of pitch when you are a singer well done brother lol
Just listen to the average Kareoki singer
Yep... the Les Dawson of vocalists....lol
@@michaelhawthorne8696 Karaoke. Wouldn't have been too difficult to do some basic research instead of making a complete fool of yourself.
@@bradallen8909
Took you a whole month to come up with that little ditty...🤣
@@michaelhawthorne8696 No, it took me about two seconds. It's pretty stupid of you to assume I read your comment the day it was posted and spent all this time thinking of a reply.
Without autotune, it sounded exactly like neighbors at karaoke late at night, about to fall into an alcoholic coma. In another words, epic
🤣🤣🤣
With Melodyne it sounded like neighbors at karaoke late at night got a record deal.
Are you implying I don't sound exactly what I'm trying to sound like?
Especially Filipinos singing at a karaoke (locally known as a videoke) while drunk.
Hahahaha!
I just got randomly recommended this and my mind is completely blown. This explains why everything in the last 15 years sounds so similar.
25 years* AutoTune has been around and widely used since the late 90s.
@@TheLuizSouza I blame Cher. Hated 'believe' with a passion ever since it started playing regularly in the late 90s.
@Lee Daniel can't you feel something inside you saying 'I really don't think your strong enough, no!'
Keep complaining old heads
@@SignofTheScorpion Cher was one of the few to use autotune as an artistic device, wasn't she? The problem is not with T-Pain or Kanye who crank it up to eleven, it's overproduction and homogenisation of your average pop song
It's technically on pitch but there's something really off and strained about it. It makes me super appreciate the natural power that comes from a talented singer
I'm unreasonably happy that the "oooh!" at the end made it to the final version. :D
Same. ^^ It's really all about the little things it seems...
Just shows how great the true vocalists of the 60s and 70s were
Elvis Presley, Roy Hamilton etc were amazing and no auto tunes etc.
And 80’s/early ‘90s.
Correct that's why there's so much crap about now when,they can,do this
Jim Morrison truly one of the greatest singers of all time along with more than 50 others, that I can think off the top of my head
@The Pug King Paul Rogers jess roden teddy pendegrass 👍
I have to say; I'm not new to the concept and tools of pitch correction, but I have never seen anyone polish a turd as you did. Nice job!!
You watch people polish turds?
Omg. I'm not an English native speaker and I've never heard of the expression polish a turd! It's funny!
@@BICIeCOMPUTERconGabrielelol it's funny how we often forget about the weird little sayings we all have in our own languages. One of my favorites is "it's raining cats and dogs," which means that it's raining really heavily / it's storming
@@msjkramey Another of my favorites is "Kill two birds with one stone," which for non-native English speakers means to complete two tasks with one action. But, I much prefer to say "Get two birds stoned at once." I first heard that from Ricky in Trailer Park Boys, although I know he didn't originate it lol. He did help popularize the saying though.
He's an alchemist, for he made gold out of a turd.
Thanks for doing this video. It shows that someone can still sound horrible with AutoTune fixing.
Well if one is a terrible singer, nothing will save him/her 😂
It would be interesting to see a comparison when you start with good vocals, just to see how big the difference is in the end result
It's basically the same process, general editing and time-correction, then melodyne, then effects and MAYBE autotune. Although after pitch correction if the singing is good enough autotune might sound TOO fake. Same process, but you actually have to be very careful to NOT overdoit
Dude! I'm sitting here with my niece about to record some vocals. She's worried about singing off key, then you put out this video. Now she's like "Oh.. okay I got this".
Haha what, really? That's awesome to hear! Thanks to you guys for watchin' : )
Yeah, whatever you do, don't learn how to effin' sing ☹️
@@andershenriksen6997 right! Isn't that just pathetic?
@@andershenriksen6997 You speak truth and wisdom, kind Sir...and people wonder why today's music sucks.
"It's okay...we got this!"
Don’t teach her to suck ffs
This version without auto-tune is epic!!!
your comment made my day ! I appreciate your sense of humor. cheers!
The best shit i heard in years
Right!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤣!!!!
It sounds like karaoke lmao
Galaaaaa🤣
I've heard the phrase "We'll fix it in the mix" many times. But that was spinning honey out of dog poop!!!! Stunning!!! WELL DONE!!!!
I randomly found one of you’re “if they sang that” videos a few weeks ago, blown away by you’re playing, singing/screaming and producing skills, now you’re educating me on how so many talentless hacks make it in the business. The humor you add to the mix tops it off, keep doing what you do, love it!
As a singer it can really be harder to sing out of tune. Everything in your brain says "no"
Yeah, your voice automatically slides in tune, haha. I know what you mean.
Oh, and if you watch someone dance out of sync/time while playing, they can sway your own sync to the drummer
I've heard singers who don't have this part of their brain, or is it my ears!.
Thankfully you've got awesome artists like me to cover all those other frequencies that the "pros" just can't handle 🎶🎵💥 (no thanks necessary, but feel free to say hi the next time you hear one of us helping keep 'Happy Birthday' real 👍)
It turns out that not all people have the unit installed to detect out of tune singing. I guess that's optional part of the brain. And some pop artists appear to be selected via beaty contents instead of because of their skills, so it makes sense some of them are missing the optional unit, too.
Dude, any punk band would appreciate your non-auto tune voice of this video 😂
Reminded me of Meat Puppets II
Sounds like morty from rick and morty
Not realistic....typed and liked by people who do not listen to punk at all, to have this skewed viewpoint of "any punk band". Listen to Flipper if you want horribly out of tune punk instruments and vocals. Listen to the Meat Puppets II if you want slightly out of tune vocals sang to tight and in tune music. Great songs on that album. Any Nirvana fan knows that, or should.
I like stuff like Dr. Know Plug In Jesus and Unity You Are One, where the vocals are in tune, or at least not dissonant to the music. But I think you do not listen to any punk, to make such a generalized and inaccurate joke against the music. This video sounds like he is copying whiny Emo/Screamo music to me, not punk. DK
@@hyperluminalreality1 if "and i took that personally" was a person lol. Great list tho.
lol
I can't believe how good you are at singing bad. I genuinely mean that. When you have any ability to sing, it's incredibly hard to sing so wrong. Well done.
It's no wonder that most pop stars lip sync "live" performances, the computer and engineers do all the heavy lifting. Much respect to you my friend, new sub etc.
well, they used to. now all of this can be done by good computers with good software during live concerts in the fraction of a second. you don't even know that what exits the speakers is not what entered the microphone.
@@moos5221 Exactly, you're hearing Autotune not their actual voice.
Behind the scenes to about 90% of today’s radio hits
Were the same technology available in bygone eras of music, it would have been used to the same degree.
@@thegreathadoken6808 it didn't exist back then because people with talent existed.
Now it is looks first, talent last
@@mickzed6746 It didn't exist then because the technology wasn't there. It has nothing to do with talent. The first song which openly used pitch-changing that I can think of was in a song performed by Cher, who also performed in this era of perfect godlike talent, where no production was required nor asked for, presumably.
The ability to enhance a song, or make it the very best it can be via various production methods is desirable, regardless of the talent performing the song.
What, so the Beatles NEEDED that string track in Eleanor Rigby to mask their lack of instrument-playing ability? Of course not. Cher didn't need her voice pitch changed in the mid 90s, either.
@@thegreathadoken6808 it had everything to do with talent.... No talent... No singing career. That simple. Everything today enables talentless people to look like they have talent to people that have no clue what talent is. Simple minds relate with simple things....And yes, the tech did exist.... It's was called a recording studio.
That "Oh...!" at 1:54 after singing terribly was like relief and revulsion at the same time! Subscribed!
I agree with you!
Hey bud. I've been grinding through CZcams videos for over a year, learning sound engineering and this was the single, undeniable best experience yet. For good singers, this video is invaluable. Subscribed and bell rung. Can't wait to check out all your videos. Thanks again 🙏
I'm asian and this is my first time to hear a guy speak english so clearly, very clear! I can even understand without using subtitles
whats funny is this guy actually has some sort of accent that i cant quite put my finger on. Like dutch or something. Basically its obvious (to me, first language being english) that English was not this guys first language. Maybe its cause Americans use so many slang words and dont fully pronounce things, but it's pretty interesting that you find this easier to understand than the average American dialect. Personally I can't understand half the words scottish or aussie people say, even though it's all 'english'.
edit: He's from Finland
@@riley8209 why would american nglish be easier then english in the uk bud ... your the ones with accents bruh do u not realize that u have the accent ... genius your talking to someone whos first language isnt english and your acting like american english is like the main form or something are us erious rn
@@jasonanderson5034 nah i get that. Chill out it aint that deep
@@riley8209 it is that deep tho why are u americans so ignorant im canadian i know i got a accent i wouldnt say to a non native English speaker that brits have a accent and i dont cause thass just a low iq moment it is that deep bruh u made a mistake the mistake is deep at least by your standards at least own up to it
I know that this was a demonstration of technology, and I appreciate that, as a nerd. As an audiophile, nothing can replace a good singer.
A.I. might eventually be able to, but we're a ways off from that. What makes pre-2004 singers so good, is the imperfections. It seems that the last vestiges of good music showing up in the top 100 ends around 2003.
@@manictiger That's pretty spot on. 2002 saw the emergence of people who sing like cats. Example, Sarah Blasko. Putting on that rounded tongue sound that sounds like a cat with a mouse in it's mouth. Billy Eilish is another example.
*a way off (I don't know why people keep saying "a ways", LOL @@manictiger
@@drinkinslimi don’t think people say “a way off.” It’s either “way off” or “a ways off,” the latter of which is a colloquialism.
Where autotune shines is when it's subtle - taking a decent singer and making them sound great. Then you need a really good ear to hear it.
This desecration of a classic really hurts haha. Loved the way it turned out
Haha thanks! Kind of an interesting dissection
Dude, great vid. I just loved and appreciated the self-deprecating humor all while crushing it in showing us how to correct the vocal. Many thanks!!
a very clear demonstration of WHAT exactly Auto Tune is capable of. You have really put it to the ultimate test and pushed it to demonstrate that it CAN handle any tuning job. Big ups bro for such a well-orchestrated demonstration 👌👌👌
That was a treat. Pretty much how I imagined it's done but I had no idea how far off vocals could be and still be brought into a listenable state. Very skillful editing, thanks for the education.
Thats kind of true but if you notice it works good when there are a bunch of tracks together with harmonies but if you notice when he solos a track it sounds pretty unnatural. So you can get away with harmonies to some extent but with a single vocal it starts to sound pretty bad really quick. And I would argue even this kind of sounded like Micky Mouse.
So doesn't work in real time. Or is there software for that also?
@@jonbutcher9805 This is manual tuning, autotune does it automatically, thus it works live. Waves Real-time Tune also works like that, for example. Unless it's manual, it should work in real time
@@lucayaki awesome, thanks
@@jonbutcher9805 You're welcome :)
Too bad more people don't know that what they are listening to might be 99% effects and 1% bad singing! lol Great work; I hope you do more of these videos!
Yeah, that's right. You never really know with these kinds of tricks. Thanks, more of this definitely coming!
I agree, but I do think autotuning can be heard if you pay close attention. The better people sang it to begin with though.. the harder it should be to spot. Not sure if there's already AI-driven auto-tuning resulting in a vocal texture to match, but it's not impossible to get flawless using 'the computer'.
If it produces a good track, and something good to listen to then, I do not really care. If someone is trying to pass them self off as an awesome singer, it would be dishonest. But then again, unless they lip-sync their music on stage, it will become apparent when they sing lol.
@@natepoodle9132 Not necessarily. While Melodyne and (even more so) the rhythm correction cannot be done live, Autotune is a realtime-effect which is often used in live settings. All you have to be able to is sing close enough to the correct note that the software gets it.
Bad performances still sound like bad performances with pitch correction.
Wow I love how you explain how and why you’re doing everything in the editing software. I’ve tried editing music before and found it hard, this answers a bunch of my questions!
The man right here made a curious experiment and stopped several times to give basics on DAW for free, anyone who's a begginer can have fun while they learn.
I never commented on any of your covers but I've really enjoyed them for quite a while, gotta stop here to say you're awesome and I admire your producing, imitation and music skills
Great job on this video! The editing is top-notch and the humor is just right. I couldn't stop laughing throughout the entire thing. You have a real talent for creating entertaining content. Keep up the fantastic work!
The various harmonies in the Toto version are phenomenal. Great layering of tracks
I've been laughing so much at how painful the "OOOooohh" sounds. It feels like a blend of the pain to go through the singing, giving it all, how hard the work will be, the fun factor... I watched the intro for 5 days in a row now and still laugh every time!
Lol, yeah, that's my favourite part as well - it's just got so much "I'm so DONE with this right now!" energy.
You say the word man... And I've subscribed to the channel! Great content! Keep working!
It always amazes me how powerful a pitch editor is. Nice job !
That was A-MAZING! I always wondered whether anyone had a way to alter horrible singing like mine changed to perfection.
I think we'll be seeing a lot more of each other thanks for putting this up!
Is this your vocal at its worst? This is how my vocal sounds at its best. I write the tracks and started to "sing" to them recently. There is hope for me now. Thank you for your video.
Hey man. I just came across your videos last night, and gotta say, you are too damn funny!!! Thanks for helping put a smile on my face after a long and difficult week. Cheers!!!!
I’m crying over here! Sometimes horrible performances are more fun to listen to than great ones. Thanks for a good laugh!
Honestly the best part to me is how all of that is reproducible with only free tools if you try hard enough, i had a good chuckle because i did some weird stuff myself with audio lol
Have you heard the “worst rendition ever” version of “O Holy Night”? I can’t ever get through that one without laughing out loud.
Dude you are so talented. I just found your channel, had to subscribe after watching only one video. Keep the videos coming.👍
Dude, you're so phenomenally good at this process, makes me wonder what you raw material is like for your other songs. :D :D :D
We did a recording session in a fully analogue recording studio last weekend, millions in very expensive equipment, recording with cans on in isolation booths, no overdubs, no autotune, whole band getting recorded on each take, someone makes a mistake, got to do another take, tapes cost over 500 bucks for 30 mins, for me it was how we used to do it back in the day, the younger members of the band less impressed!
Sure, grandpa
Frivolous.
"Back in the day" you also rode around in a horse and cart but time moves on mostly for the better.
Your "badly as I possibly can" is still 10 times better than my best attempt !
YOU ARE A BOMBER MISTER!! WELL DONE!! WONDERFUL VIDEO!
Here we can see, why all the stars from the 60s, 70s, and the 80s are real real good singers. Today we have so many real bad singers and after this cleaning they all sound brilliant.
The “Oooooh!” is priceless 😎👍 You got a new sub! Thanks for the inspiration, brother 🙏 Love and light from sunny Khao Lak in Thailand 🇹🇭 ❤️☀️🌴🥥🎶
Super funny video bro. Obviously lots of skill in putting this together. Great job. 👊
Wow - that was a great demonstration. I've been holding back on upgrading my daw to the pro version (acoustica mixcraft) that comes with Melodyne, but I have to have it now! That was brilliant - thank you!
This was awesome, thank you. I have heard and known about Auto-tune since 1998 when Cher put out that crazy song, "Believe", but thought it was used for adding in special effects to existing vocals, I had no idea it was designed to fix and correct bad singing. Wow. Thank you for showing us a glimpse of how all the different programs work and how they can fix different issues. Very cool. I feel a bit betrayed by recording artists now, it's kind of like Milli Vanilly all over again, LOL.
😂🤣 Your bad singing had me in stitches! You should release an album of greatest hits. I would play it whenever I needed cheering up. It would also be great on road trips too!
Just don't play it in public 😂
It would be called the greate-shits by Moonic.
Made me think. You get lots of albums containing an "accoustic" version of a track. What about an album with an un-auto-tuned version?
You can use this bad track to quickly force a confession in court.
I have to say that you gave me goosebumps. It came in waves by starting small and growing to almost a crescendo. Very impressive.
The intro got me hooked, lol! Great video fr
Ok this was really entertaining!
I hate that so many people do this for real & try to pretend they’re really singers but I definitely get what you’re doing. Warmth of the big chorus with the real singers is definitely different. Nobody can take that away but this is fun and funny!
Awesome job! 🤘😁
This is fantastic, laughing at first, then impressed with the techno, demonstration and results.
I didn't think you could sing badly. Great video!thier is hope for me yet!
Lots of good info and with a good sense oh humor. You are a talented teacher. Thanks for sharing
This was really well done! It manages to sound fairly natural most of the time despite being _very_ heavily edited.
Io ti guardo dalla Sicilia e ti stimo tantissimo per quello che fai essendo anche io un appassionato di musica. Continua così sei un grande
Thanks so much!
"My neighbors love me" You're killing me, dude! Awesome vid!
I'm new to this channel, all I'm going to say is I liked and subscribed at around the 30 second mark...brilliant! 😄
Best video so far my man. Lovin the videos
Cool, thanks so much Russell!
Well done. Both impressive and horrifying at the same time, as well as being informative and entertaining. 😎
This is hugely entertaining and funny as well. Tech has definitely come a long way. 😊
so nice to watch it , congrats for sharing this techinic, I knew nothing about it , and with your video I could see how it is done. Many Thanks.
That first clean take was a beast, but that harmony sent those raw vocals into the stratosphere!!!!!!!!
This was a highly satisfying watch.
Pitch correcting vocals is one of my favorite things to do. I use Waves Tune, and I'll happily spend hours manually adjusting every note individually. The trick is getting it to sound natural and not robotic. As much as I love perfection, sometimes you need to leave those scoops and off-center waves alone. The old "less is more" rule applies yet again.
no its not what if u want a robotic vocal .. electronic music exists bud .. people enjoy it
@@jasonanderson5034 no its not what if u don't want a robotic vocal .. electronic music doesn't exist pal .. people despise it
@@ThePsho then u dont maniuplate it genius if u want it then u do i if u dont then u dont ... your a narrow minded idiot every genre of music has people who despise it and people who enjoy it u think everybody likes your music ..
Ooooh. LOL. I enjoyed watching this. I've always be fascinated on what audio engineers do.
That was great!! One of the more entertaining videos I have seen on CZcams! Thanks! 🤣
Dude I am hysterical over here listening to you sing because it sounds exactly how I sounded during a drunken karaoke where I THOUGHT I was doing a good job. The next day I watched the video and I will never, EVER do karaoke again!
😂 I laughed out loud. I can imagine the feeling of watching the video.
And here I was thinking you'd only mess up the pitch 😅 Time correcting is such a chore. You really made it a lot harder on yourself with that 😂
Amazing! 👏Bravo! Bravissimo!👏👏👏
Wow! That was seriously impressive, man!
I like the version before the fix because it represents how most of us sound. Hahahaha! great job bro!
Omg, it sounds like Morty singing Africa 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You’re right! It does! 🤣🤣🤣
Wow! You gave so much insight into the process, thank you!!
This is SO cool! 😁 thanks for showing 😄👍
you can also fix the tightness with melodyne (if you open the side menu and reduce "drift" and "modulation")
Kudos to the sound engineers like you who did all of this behind and been suffering of bad singing until it is completely improved 👏🏼😂
No NOT kudos to them, they're an essential part of music being so fuckin terrible these days.
Without them, only actually talented and deserving artists could record palatable performances. No frauds.
That's pretty funny. Thanks for providing info on the software.
Once I was given a paid job (even tho I don't usually do paid music stuff) because a guy was having a wedding in a month and he wanted to record himself singing a song for the first dance, I agreed because why not, he actually had surprisingly good timbre and wasn't pitch drifting too much, but he was basically always out of tune. We had a lot of takes and it took a fair amount of Melodyne, but the final effect was actually not that bad. You absolutely can do wonders with Melodyne
There's no band-aid for bad singing. :P Your videos are great in showing the limitations of pitch correction, and needless to mention, funny!
@@Zero_Ego Copium much?
@Steve Houghton On the one hand it's pretty remarkable how much he was able to improve the his singing. However, I still clearly prefer the sound of the original. So yeah, at least from this example, software can make almost anything sound good. But you still need a bit of talent to sound great.
@@Zero_Ego He does pull the thing back in pitch, but there are a TON of artifacts left over from the software, which is the limitation. The average person listening casually may not hear them but if you listen for them they are pretty clear.
@@Zero_Ego no...the quality of the vocal is seriously lacking after the pitch correction, sounds very robotic and wrong in a way. A truly awful singer will still not sound stellar after pitch correction. Pitch correction is great and almost not noticable when using it for relatively small corrections but doesn't do well when the pitch is off by too much.
If you put on headphones and listen carefully, there’s obvious signs of extreme pitch correction. There are weird artifacts left over from the pitch correction. Can’t tell if you don’t pay attention but any experienced audio engineer can hear it.
Great fun little video!
first vid of yours i saw was "every breath you take" by Rammstein... and your VRY SRS FACE while keyboarding hooked me in... everything you do is hilarious, interesting, educational, and of top qual. Thanks, please continue. :)
Love it, and that's exactly the reason i listen mostly to oldies music, back in the days when to be a singer you didn't need to show your ass in a music video to sell records, you needed talent! Sidenote, adele who's a REAL talent doesn't use autotune
For me it's the imperfections that are so appealing. Even the best old singers have small inconsistencies that create a whole different vibe other than this perfect pitch and artificial stuff all songs have nowadays due to corporate decisions...
adele uses pitch correction. mind you, that still doesn't take away from the fact that she is very talented. talent comes in different shapes than singing perfectly on-key.
@@dec5847 if a singer can consistently sing in key, there’s simply no need for pitch correction.
Seriously, there are few things I hate more than autotune! (commercials, lies, and HR lingo comes on top)
Thanks for a great and informative video!
Thanks for sharing the workflow
This is so awesome !! Never even knew I wanted to watch this! Hahah
The tragedy is how many "singers" depend on this software and still manage to have careers based on their images, whilst many brilliant singers never breakthrough because they don't fit the commercial package.
Is it because mediocre plastic surgeons cost more than great sound engineers?
Because it's not about art and talent. It's about influencing people.
@@aguy446No its mainly about selling stuff to people, and influencing people comes second. And if we like it or not, most people like easy to digest text and texture. It sells best. And while i dont like the overwhelming majority of it, i still dont think there is anything wrong with that.
Pop music isn't the most successful genre because the lables want it to (they are just taking advantage) but because people buy/ stream a shitton of it.
Hate the game, not the player.
@@aguy446Songwriting skill is better than talent dude.
How hard you all are splitting hairs to be right. To dipsh*t 1, you have to influence people to sell stuff. To dipsh*t 2, songwriting is a talent. The fact I have to explain all this is amazing.
Just fascinating! Glad I was born in 1958 and in the seventies people could sing. And far more complex melodies as well. No technology just beautiful voices, on pitch etc.
Thank you, repeating myself, but quite fascinating!
nah chloe x halle can out-sing half of the 70s stars
@@horizonkyun7203 I don't know who that is, but, of course, there are singers nowadays who can sing properly. It's just that they don't always need to be able to sing to make it.
The thing is, if you sing decently well, the producer can make it sound really good.
So there is much less incentive for singers to really sit down and practice their part until they nail it 100% in the studio.
Some singers are still amazing today, but I really like when people make a conscious choice to keep their vocal mostly unedited.
Imperfection is something to practice minimizing but it can also add character. Character can very easily become strange when correction is applied
Thanx man - your stuff is top shelf!!
Nice video ! Amazing how much it´s possible to improve the recording !
Great job... You shed light on a painful truth of the music industry... It just goes to show how many b.s "artists" can exist and thrive without ACTUAL ART or talent these days... All you need are good looks and a songwriting/production team making generic and formulated songs and you can be a star... Really sucks for people with actual talent and skill who will NEVER have a chance in being heard.
The industry doesn't need talent... they manufacture it...
Side note, everyone in Toto are world-class musicians, writers and vocalists... They were all ace session guys who made a band for kicks and ended up with great success...
Those guys were the backing band on amazing hits like Michael Jackson's "Thriller", Lionel Richie's "Running with the night" ("Can't slow down" album). As individuals, Toto's band members can be heard on over 5000 albums that together amass a sales history of a HALF A BILLION albums...
You’re too pessimistic. First, just singing the right notes does not make you a great singer. If your voice doesn’t sound great, all the correctness in the world won’t make you a star. If it’s not special enough to be recognized, you will be quickly forgotten.
Second, without a great song even the best voice in the world won’t make you a star. (And I’m not talking about meme songs like Gangnam Style which defy standards here.)
@@magicmulder Forgive my pessimism. I spent 25 years getting screwed over by the industry, spending thousands of dollars to get jerked around by producers. We had guys charge us $1,000 per song, and after recording held our music hostage saying "It'll be $1,000 more per song to actually mix them and give them to you". We had a producer convince us to come to Detroit and record us for free, with the thought he could shop us around, but he lost interest and just never gave us anything... There are exceptions to my comment... it's not ALL MUSIC... People like Lady Gaga, John Mayer, Keith Urban, Brad Paisley, Chris Stapleton etc are talented players and vocalists in their own right. The industry isn't totally devoid of talent, but in most cases talent isn't the first priority... Look at Brittney Spears, Taylor Swift, or even Garth Brooks and Kenney Chesney. They are mediocre vocalists, have all their songs written for them, and can barely play cowboy chords... yet they are astronomically sucessful... Their success far outweighs their talent... Especially compared to people out there like Tyler Childers, Marcus King, Philip Sayce, Colter Wall, etc.... The days of another Queen, or Led Zeppelin, Michael Jackson, Fleetwood Mac, etc are long gone... Artists are "developed" not "discoverd"
This shit started happening 25 years ago small scale but now it’s used all the time
@@magicmulder You're to naive.
@@ChrsGuit I understand your bitterness. There have been many examples way before computer technology where looks and image have taken priority over vocals. I think it mostly began in the 1970s as a market reaction to the success of musician the 1960s. That's when it became a very profitable commodity and success over talent became possible. There have been many "artists" who had session singers singing for them instead. In 1989/90 Milli Vanilli famously got exposed and also the male singer in Boney M in the late 1970s (same producer) was discovered not to have sung at all.
All I can say to this is, "Oooohhh".
This was a really cool video to see. Keep it up.
Absolutely Awesome 😎
You make it look so easy ..... But I know that it's not !
Woah, it's impressive, i didn't think it would be like this at the end... You're a wizzard!
love that setup by the way
6:32 - the "galaaaa" almost made me laugh loudly with people sleeping at home, holy damn 🤣
Lmao! Yeah, I cracked up at that part.