The buried and forgotten tombs reminds me of how it will be us one. I'm sure they thought their way of life was going to continue but their tombs ended up serving as a time capsule discovered people several cycles of cultures and languages removed who would probably seem alien to the ancient egyptians.
NB: It is Isis and not Horus who reassembled Osiris scattered body parts! In fact, it is only after he was reassembled (bar a single vital part...) that Isis was still feconded to have Horus...
A possible explanation for the exaggerated body forms of Ak. is that he saw himself as the mediator between the God and his people -- even more so than other Pharaos. And the specialness of his role, and that of his family, could be expressed in his being different. And perhaps even the Mother and Father of his people -- thus the female look to his body. Just a few thoughts
There are many people in Cleopatra's genealogy whose names have been lost -- possibly because they were lower status concubines of the Ptolemaic kings. So there is a good chance that after generations of Ptolemaic rule, Cleopatra may've had some Egyptian blood in her. Only reason I know this is because of the recent Netflix documentary because it became a whole thing since she was depicted as sub-saharan African.
Akhenaten just blows my mind. To wipe the floor with the entire cultural basis of the most conservative and long-lasting culture in history... Imagine the character, the charisma and sheer strength of will that takes holy cow And he was right too wasn't he? I mean I am not religious but if you're gonna worship anything it makes the most sense to worship the Sun. Unlike any other deity I've ever heard of it's real and actually gives us life.
Is it possible that Ahkenaten was NB or intersex and that is why the depictions show a mix feminine and masculine traits? BTW I love the relief of the royal family just being a family its so beautiful
There have been suggestions along those lines and we will honestly probably never know for sure, but Ockham's Razor dictates that it was probably a Mulan sort of incident. ie: A woman needing to present as masculine to appease the sensibilities of her patriarchic society to get to the station she desires. There are muddled references to her across the surviving hieroglyphic inscriptions addressing her as a male and female character and as the Professor noted she was also being depicted with male and female regelia to represent both traits which would have traditionally been seperated among the royal couple. So if you are thinking in modern descriptions, which we need to be careful because modern social gender standards were completely unknown/unformed in antiquity, she represents either an androgynous figure or one that was bigendered. I still think, if we seek to get into those long gone peoples' mindsets, it was a simple Mulan incident.
@@nicholasdalli6303 Thank you for taking the time to give such a detailed answer i really appreciate it. I recognize that we can never really gender someone from the past and that ideas about gender are constantly changing and evolving and our ideas about would be unrecognizable to someone in ancient Egypt but i will always be curious. I don't really have the vocabulary or education to talk about any of this in any meaningful way, unfortunately
@@jonni2317 No problem, I love talking about history, its my passion. I have driven friends and family mad hearing me spin yarns about the stuff. If you are interested in aspects of gender, and in particular ideas that might appear more similar to modern non-binary interpretations, I would suggest going down the rabbit hole of androgynous deities that on rare occasion appear in Egyptian and Near Eastern mythologies. It's a very niche topic and most probably doesn't even remotely reflect contemporary peoples' understanding of the self, but someone thought about it and that alone is rather cool - at least to me. I hope you have an enjoyable day.
Just watched the Puppet History episode on Hatshepsut on the channel Watcher!! I'm glad i'm learning about her in my art history class!
POV: you just found out that Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian and your whole life apparently is a lie 👁️👄👁️
The buried and forgotten tombs reminds me of how it will be us one. I'm sure they thought their way of life was going to continue but their tombs ended up serving as a time capsule discovered people several cycles of cultures and languages removed who would probably seem alien to the ancient egyptians.
Selket be looking thicc
NB: It is Isis and not Horus who reassembled Osiris scattered body parts! In fact, it is only after he was reassembled (bar a single vital part...) that Isis was still feconded to have Horus...
Indeed
A possible explanation for the exaggerated body forms of Ak. is that he saw himself as the mediator between the God and his people -- even more so than other Pharaos. And the specialness of his role, and that of his family, could be expressed in his being different. And perhaps even the Mother and Father of his people -- thus the female look to his body. Just a few thoughts
Hey Ahkenaten,
W H Y T H E L O N G F A C E ? ? ? ? ? ?
H U E H H U E H H U E H U E H H U E H E H U E H
There are many people in Cleopatra's genealogy whose names have been lost -- possibly because they were lower status concubines of the Ptolemaic kings. So there is a good chance that after generations of Ptolemaic rule, Cleopatra may've had some Egyptian blood in her.
Only reason I know this is because of the recent Netflix documentary because it became a whole thing since she was depicted as sub-saharan African.
Akhenaten just blows my mind. To wipe the floor with the entire cultural basis of the most conservative and long-lasting culture in history... Imagine the character, the charisma and sheer strength of will that takes holy cow
And he was right too wasn't he? I mean I am not religious but if you're gonna worship anything it makes the most sense to worship the Sun. Unlike any other deity I've ever heard of it's real and actually gives us life.
U keep mentioning Ramses II being a Hyksos descendant with so much certainty, where did you get this information from? I can't find it anywhere
Aliens confirmed
I couldn't find it either
I'm surprised you didnt mention the battle at kadesh and the stele of ramses 2 or the israel stele
What about Sebekneferu? Didn't she rule Egypt for a time?
am I right in understanding there are some somewhat lewd depictions of Hatshepsut in the caves behind her tomb?
wasn't sobekneferu a female pharoah before hatshepsut?
16:08 so... stone photoshop
Is it possible that Ahkenaten was NB or intersex and that is why the depictions show a mix feminine and masculine traits? BTW I love the relief of the royal family just being a family its so beautiful
There have been suggestions along those lines and we will honestly probably never know for sure, but Ockham's Razor dictates that it was probably a Mulan sort of incident. ie: A woman needing to present as masculine to appease the sensibilities of her patriarchic society to get to the station she desires. There are muddled references to her across the surviving hieroglyphic inscriptions addressing her as a male and female character and as the Professor noted she was also being depicted with male and female regelia to represent both traits which would have traditionally been seperated among the royal couple. So if you are thinking in modern descriptions, which we need to be careful because modern social gender standards were completely unknown/unformed in antiquity, she represents either an androgynous figure or one that was bigendered. I still think, if we seek to get into those long gone peoples' mindsets, it was a simple Mulan incident.
@@nicholasdalli6303 Thank you for taking the time to give such a detailed answer i really appreciate it. I recognize that we can never really gender someone from the past and that ideas about gender are constantly changing and evolving and our ideas about would be unrecognizable to someone in ancient Egypt but i will always be curious. I don't really have the vocabulary or education to talk about any of this in any meaningful way, unfortunately
@@jonni2317 No problem, I love talking about history, its my passion. I have driven friends and family mad hearing me spin yarns about the stuff. If you are interested in aspects of gender, and in particular ideas that might appear more similar to modern non-binary interpretations, I would suggest going down the rabbit hole of androgynous deities that on rare occasion appear in Egyptian and Near Eastern mythologies. It's a very niche topic and most probably doesn't even remotely reflect contemporary peoples' understanding of the self, but someone thought about it and that alone is rather cool - at least to me. I hope you have an enjoyable day.
@@nicholasdalli6303 Thank you for the suggestion I'll look into those mythologies, I hope you have a lovely day too