This was recorded at the Santa Ynez Valley Historical Museum's 29th Annual Vaquero Show and Sale on November 10, 2013 in Santa Ynez, California. Jeff Derby was the horseman for the demonstration.
Thanks for such an awesome video! I wish more people would watch it so they could better understand what it is that our lifestyle and our traditions mean and represent. The more interest the Vaquero and Buckaroo Traditions could garner, the more we could be certain that they would be around long after our absence!!
Thank you for producing this video. Jeff does a fine job explaining a complex process in a very short time. This is a very "user-friendly" piece! Deb Ann Phelan~ Buckaroo Traditions
Those 25 thumbs down 👎 probably believe they can just put a Settle on a horse And presto Like magic abracadabra The horse will know what to do.... Idiots...
May be time to look into this type of trainer. The boy in my picture will be ready to start in July, he'll be 28 months. It's so hard to find a trainer that is willing to use patience as the main training tool. Of course I can always study horsemanship myself.
Hi! You could start with "These were the vaqueros" from Arnold Rojas to get an insight into the tradition. (If you are on facebook, feel free to contact me.)
@@leckerly12that is the greatest recommendation by far! I am reading it right now and is what I look forward to read everyday. I enjoy that book so much.
Vaquero: El que cuida las vacas.Palabra española,herencia española y desde España y en español digo que lo mas parecido que se utiliza en bocados desde hace mucho tiempo aqui es el llamado "cuello de pichon",que es una salvajada para el caballo y que incluso ese no es tan brutal como el que ese "vaquero" pone en la boca de su caballo.
@@gustavobarajas6155 Estas dispuesto a afirmar semejante cosa delante de un auditorio de expertos,estudia un poco. Otro dato que quizas desconozcas Mejico no tiene raza propia,la que se considera como raza propia NO LA CREO NINGUN MEJICANO SINO DOS ESPAÑOLES¿Sabes lo que es un caballo azteca?¿Un presidio?¿Una mision?¿Cuales fueron las leyes sobre equitacion?¿Por que Mejico se llama Mejico?¿Cuando empezo su decadencia?¿Que era la comancheria?¿Un cibolero?¿Que eran los soldados de cuera?¿La cruz de San Andres?¿Sabes de donde proceden todas las razas equinas del continente americano?¿Al menos sabes el nombre del idioma en que nos estamos comunicando?VALIENTE ES LA IGNORANCIA.
@@chiquiperez7846 hola chiqui, soy de Mexico y tienes razon. Toda la base de la equitacion mexicana viene de España. Sin embargo en México se modificó la silla española y se inventó la "cabeza" de la silla de montar y se crearon las técnicas de lazar. Tambien se inventó el coleo de toros y la monta de toros. Los charros de Mexico tambien inventaron suertes de rejoneo como poner banderillas a dos manos y el teléfono de Carlos Arruza. Amo a España y respeto y quiero a los españoles, viva España y viva México, un abrazo
@@vaquero7x Una de las mejores razas de caballos por su funcionalidad,caracter y belleza es la azteca,raza propia de Mejico y creada por dos españoles,Mejico no existiria sin España y España esta muy ligada a Mejico,valga esa raza como muestra.Gracias por la invitacion Y QUE VIVAN MEJICO Y ESPAÑA.
This system is called a two-rein. The horse is started in the hackamore (jaquima). When the horse is good with that, the bridle with the bit is put on at the same time but not used. Over time, the horse works off the bridle and the hackamore is removed.
This is still pressure and release, no different. If not, then loose the spurs, bit, bosal/hackamore, reins and everything else. Instead of trying to differentiate training methods, maybe we should all realize and appreciate how similar our training tactics really are.
Lisa de Kramer: inclined to agree, but let me unpack this a little.... Small feet coupled w/ lots of muscle in the shoulder & croup equals low swing weight & a horse naturally light on its feet. At the same time, small feet supporting a lot of weight up top can lead to hoof & joint wear & tear issues. Like many things, it's a compromise, but as the video says, balance of the horse & Rider is an important part of this equation. Cheers!
i am not trying to be argumentative, but if the horses go so well bitless, why in the world put that spade bit in their mouths??? you are probably a very educated rider, and can use a tool like that, but most people will NEVER get to that level of skill, and are torturing their horses with that bit. tradition and the old ways are great to maintain when everyone involved gets a good deal, but i can think of many traditions and old ways that are just no longer ethical in this day and age. the moment you place a bit in the horses mouth you begin a physiological conflict. the horse was only meant to have food in his mouth, nothing bigger, or heavier was meant to rest on his tongue, it effects his entire way of moving, as it disturbs his hyoid apparatus. the brain begins to produce saliva waiting for food and the stomach acids begin to churn, for the food that does not come. as i said before, maybe you can use this bit in a way that does not inflict pain, but most people never will get to that level, and so many horses will suffer because someone wants to be a real vaquero. next, your spurs. does the educated rider paired with the educated horse need a spur, no. does the uneducated rider with an uneducated leg, on any horse need a spur? no. again, another archaic symbol of machismo and power. you can not talk about being in harmony, or balance, when one partner comes to the equation with articles of force, articles that were developed to cause pain, or discomfort if the other partner did not obey. HERE IS MY ISSUE...you guys know full well, better than most, how well a horse can go in the most simple hackamore, i am sure you can ride your horses bridleless, am i right? SO WHY NOT SHOW THAT TO THE WORLD??? a true partnership, true harmony, a true bond between human and horse. why not show true LIGHTNESS? whats so great about perpetuating the old traditional ways of the people who lived before science, before humanity, and before compassion were in fashion? WHEN WE KNOW BETTER, WE MUST DO BETTER. when i see that spade bit, and those huge spurs, i see the confederate flag. i see a symbol of slavery, brutality, and the worst parts of a patriarchal society. i think if you could take a step back from what you think you know, you might see the very same things.
You are sadly misinformed. You are allowing tradition to cloud you judgement. Any kind of bit is a pain compliance device. Stop at the lower diameter hackamore.
You're the one that is sadly misinformed friend.... just as I once was. Never stop learning and be humble and you will be amazed what you will learn as you travel the path of horsemanship.
The truth is because of piloerector muscles and the nerve endings in a horses skin they are at the same time stronger than a humans skin but more sensitive also. The masterly is in the hands not the tools.
You're mistaken friend. Just because the leg is rotated so that the calf is rotated to pressure the horses side does not mean he is spurring the horse.
Still pressure and release , don’t care what anyone says. You make the right things easy and the wrong things difficult, . That’s training, period
Thanks for such an awesome video! I wish more people would watch it so they could better understand what it is that our lifestyle and our traditions mean and represent. The more interest the Vaquero and Buckaroo Traditions could garner, the more we could be certain that they would be around long after our absence!!
this guy says it best . most that understand this method can not put it into words. Thank you for posting
Jeff did an incredible job!
"Talk them into it." I like this viewpoint, thanks for posting! :)
Thank you for producing this video. Jeff does a fine job explaining a complex process in a very short time. This is a very "user-friendly" piece!
Deb Ann Phelan~
Buckaroo Traditions
Those 25 thumbs down 👎 probably believe they can just put a Settle on a horse And presto Like magic abracadabra The horse will know what to do....
Idiots...
haven't used a bit for years, horsehair mecate and a Vince Donely rawhide bosal.
May be time to look into this type of trainer. The boy in my picture will be ready to start in July, he'll be 28 months. It's so hard to find a trainer that is willing to use patience as the main training tool. Of course I can always study horsemanship myself.
Luckily the SFVAHA is having Jeff do a clinic. Time for me to get started
@Phil Brodeou
Hi, i am a beginner in riding and am looking for any book or video recommendations on learning to train and ride the vaquero way?!
Hi! You could start with "These were the vaqueros" from Arnold Rojas to get an insight into the tradition. (If you are on facebook, feel free to contact me.)
Thank You Frank, I ordered the book and read a few inserts, I am excited to start reading it.
@@manuelllanos4294how did you liked reading the book ?
I am reading it right now and is what I look forward to read everyday
@@leckerly12that is the greatest recommendation by far!
I am reading it right now and is what I look forward to read everyday. I enjoy that book so much.
Who made your saddle?
Vaquero: El que cuida las vacas.Palabra española,herencia española y desde España y en español digo que lo mas parecido que se utiliza en bocados desde hace mucho tiempo aqui es el llamado "cuello de pichon",que es una salvajada para el caballo y que incluso ese no es tan brutal como el que ese "vaquero" pone en la boca de su caballo.
Todo los metodos vaqueros provienen de Mexico no de iberia.
@@gustavobarajas6155 Estas dispuesto a afirmar semejante cosa delante de un auditorio de expertos,estudia un poco.
Otro dato que quizas desconozcas Mejico no tiene raza propia,la que se considera como raza propia NO LA CREO NINGUN MEJICANO SINO DOS ESPAÑOLES¿Sabes lo que es un caballo azteca?¿Un presidio?¿Una mision?¿Cuales fueron las leyes sobre equitacion?¿Por que Mejico se llama Mejico?¿Cuando empezo su decadencia?¿Que era la comancheria?¿Un cibolero?¿Que eran los soldados de cuera?¿La cruz de San Andres?¿Sabes de donde proceden todas las razas equinas del continente americano?¿Al menos sabes el nombre del idioma en que nos estamos comunicando?VALIENTE ES LA IGNORANCIA.
@@chiquiperez7846 hola chiqui, soy de Mexico y tienes razon. Toda la base de la equitacion mexicana viene de España. Sin embargo en México se modificó la silla española y se inventó la "cabeza" de la silla de montar y se crearon las técnicas de lazar. Tambien se inventó el coleo de toros y la monta de toros. Los charros de Mexico tambien inventaron suertes de rejoneo como poner banderillas a dos manos y el teléfono de Carlos Arruza. Amo a España y respeto y quiero a los españoles, viva España y viva México, un abrazo
@@chiquiperez7846 le invito a que vea lo que se llama "floreo de reata" de Los charros de Mexico, saludos
@@vaquero7x Una de las mejores razas de caballos por su funcionalidad,caracter y belleza es la azteca,raza propia de Mejico y creada por dos españoles,Mejico no existiria sin España y España esta muy ligada a Mejico,valga esa raza como muestra.Gracias por la invitacion Y QUE VIVAN MEJICO Y ESPAÑA.
why do you need both on the horse could you use only one.
This system is called a two-rein. The horse is started in the hackamore (jaquima). When the horse is good with that, the bridle with the bit is put on at the same time but not used. Over time, the horse works off the bridle and the hackamore is removed.
Es una doble rienda....
I think it shows you are some what the best of the best that’s just amazing
This is still pressure and release, no different. If not, then loose the spurs, bit, bosal/hackamore, reins and everything else. Instead of trying to differentiate training methods, maybe we should all realize and appreciate how similar our training tactics really are.
Balance, when are you going to start breeding horses with good hoofs. Tiny feet do not support the balance of the horse. Hello!
Lisa de Kramer: inclined to agree, but let me unpack this a little.... Small feet coupled w/ lots of muscle in the shoulder & croup equals low swing weight & a horse naturally light on its feet. At the same time, small feet supporting a lot of weight up top can lead to hoof & joint wear & tear issues. Like many things, it's a compromise, but as the video says, balance of the horse & Rider is an important part of this equation. Cheers!
Such bullshit!!!!! that is pain,pain,pain! Great horsemanship require no bit like that.
Poor is the ignorance of those who claim to be the original cowboys is better to leave them in the scourge and ignorance
i am not trying to be argumentative, but if the horses go so well bitless, why in the world put that spade bit in their mouths??? you are probably a very educated rider, and can use a tool like that, but most people will NEVER get to that level of skill, and are torturing their horses with that bit. tradition and the old ways are great to maintain when everyone involved gets a good deal, but i can think of many traditions and old ways that are just no longer ethical in this day and age. the moment you place a bit in the horses mouth you begin a physiological conflict. the horse was only meant to have food in his mouth, nothing bigger, or heavier was meant to rest on his tongue, it effects his entire way of moving, as it disturbs his hyoid apparatus. the brain begins to produce saliva waiting for food and the stomach acids begin to churn, for the food that does not come. as i said before, maybe you can use this bit in a way that does not inflict pain, but most people never will get to that level, and so many horses will suffer because someone wants to be a real vaquero. next, your spurs. does the educated rider paired with the educated horse need a spur, no. does the uneducated rider with an uneducated leg, on any horse need a spur? no. again, another archaic symbol of machismo and power. you can not talk about being in harmony, or balance, when one partner comes to the equation with articles of force, articles that were developed to cause pain, or discomfort if the other partner did not obey. HERE IS MY ISSUE...you guys know full well, better than most, how well a horse can go in the most simple hackamore, i am sure you can ride your horses bridleless, am i right? SO WHY NOT SHOW THAT TO THE WORLD??? a true partnership, true harmony, a true bond between human and horse. why not show true LIGHTNESS? whats so great about perpetuating the old traditional ways of the people who lived before science, before humanity, and before compassion were in fashion? WHEN WE KNOW BETTER, WE MUST DO BETTER. when i see that spade bit, and those huge spurs, i see the confederate flag. i see a symbol of slavery, brutality, and the worst parts of a patriarchal society. i think if you could take a step back from what you think you know, you might see the very same things.
cultura de ANDALUSE desde hace 9000 años
One can get whatever degree of signaling one wants by using a rope halter and reins. No metal in the horse's mouth.
You are sadly misinformed. You are allowing tradition to cloud you judgement. Any kind of bit is a pain compliance device.
Stop at the lower diameter hackamore.
You're just dumb.
Horses are giant animals that have much thicker skin (and tung for that matter) than you or I do.
You're the one that is sadly misinformed friend.... just as I once was. Never stop learning and be humble and you will be amazed what you will learn as you travel the path of horsemanship.
The truth is because of piloerector muscles and the nerve endings in a horses skin they are at the same time stronger than a humans skin but more sensitive also. The masterly is in the hands not the tools.
'without the spurs'.............no, I can see you using your spurs as you are moving her.
You're mistaken friend. Just because the leg is rotated so that the calf is rotated to pressure the horses side does not mean he is spurring the horse.
@@themangarage2203 The spur is in direct contact with the horse. It is not needed.
One can obtain this kind of refinement without any head gear.
The spade bit.............some traditions are best left to the dust of time.