Like I never see it coming when people spam heavies and lights into my full guard, so I actually get hit because I let go of full guard expecting people to actually react to my full guard.
Heres a few of my tips Backwards light attack is a relatively safe way to get into hyper armor heavy Throw heavy feint into light attack every so often Sprinting impale can catch people off guard if you can manage to get it off in the middle of your fight Pray your opponent is trash because lawbringer is playing the game on hard mode
My problem with lawbringer, who I play faithfully, is that everyone and their mothers always manages to parry my heavy attack. I can throw out feints and mix it up, they still get the parry off.
I hope lawbro gets his heavy parry impale back after a while like how glad got his knock down toe stab back. Over 60 reps in him and it hurts my soul to see warmonger, cent. Jj, afeera and so on get 30 or more damage on a heavy parry when lawbringer’s only did 25. Why Ubi decided to delete the usefulness of the move (except in the one scenario where there’s a ledge behind your opponent) instead of reducing its travel distance baffles me.
I'm 7 months late to the party but I think when a rework happens (which is typically for the better) when people main that hero the muscle memory is SO ingrained i think it throws people off. A bad example for me was valk very first rework like years ago where you did the sweep from pulling backwards and using guardbreak. Then they changed it to just guardbreak button so it kinda tossed the 50 50 out the window cause I used to get 2 hits with valk then use a guardbreak instead of a sweep to catch people. Now I can't do that and its frustrating. Even tho the multiple reworks make the hero better it still messed with me. Especially with the all guard shield bash if it wiffed or someone dodged you could do a light attack and was mad effective. Can't do that anymore:(
1 thing about the impale is that if u hit a wall and longarm, I'm fairly sure u can get a side light into a corfirmed top light, netting u 30 damage. It's only 1 more but still 🤷♂️
I still hope the devs give him some more options as a “parry specialist” he’s not so special anymore in terms of the options he had available to him. Yet there is some good things that came with the rework. I just personally feel like the opportunity was wasted.
I hope Ubisoft does something for his top opener heavy; it was (and still is) meant to be used as a wallsplat punish, yet it always punishes the player for using it correctly.
One tip i learned was use the ub top in duels and the ub side in ganks, the top can soft feint and is a good mixup because they always have to make a resd, while the sides have a good cleave for target swapping and externaling
I feel like getting a successful impale to a wall should stun (similar to warmonger's impale inflicting bleed on a wall splat) It would at least make the move a little more useful.
We're on the same page when it comes to the wall: Only wallsplat if you plan to go for the longarm...which is anytime that you can do it. Some other things I found were that you can get a forward bash into side light after heavy parry for 13 damage instead of 12. Also, you can wallsplat to set up a guaranteed chain heavy by throwing forward, do backwards light and top heavy for 26 damage over 24. These were probably the tricks you mentioned already existed, but there is more incentive to use them now. RIP Guardbreak Longarm
Impale is so bad now. Only way for it to be good again without reverting the nerf is to copy Raider's choo choo train move from GB. Just giving an opponent a ride on the spiky end of a polearm, instead of over the shoulder.
If you let go of them early before the impale reaches a wall you can get an extra move in and chain them all while knocking them to the wall still. Don’t sleep on it 😜
I’d love to see a roll catcher for lawbringer where he impales you and pins you so the ground for a free chain light. Or just make his roll catcher the pre-rework impale.
What was their plan of action? I spent so much damn time on this character and got so much stuff for him, and now I feel like a bot and want to throw him in the garbage.
@Jondaliner do you prefer the previous version or this version of lawbringer, i find this rework very lackluster and dont really like playing lawbro anymore
And they also nerve is damaged so much that I am probably losing more fights that I would’ve won because his damages so low that other characters heavys deal more damage than his even though we’re supposed to get our unblockables easier they don’t want to have us be too powerful. I just call that favoritism of others because you know the lawbringer mains aren’t a big part of the community and so you can get away with such a big nerf without much criticism.
just buff lb so it wouldnt feel like i am playing the game on deathwish difficulty but still there is warmonger after she parries you you cant dodge her punish and she will take at least 20 dmage from you and even wall splat you
Scrub opinion here but none the less imo the rework is kinda lackluster I would like a double light chain, roll catcher and keep impale on heavy parry but lower the damage but that’s me
Am I the only one who’s pissed they for some reason didn’t green light his light chain? They said the goal of his rework was to remove the clunky feeling of him and provide more flow to his kit, yet they didn’t let his light chain go to live so he’s still stuck throwing a neutral light and then… well that’s basically it. A neutral light is forced to follow up with a heavy which has little to no mix up potential. I hate that so much.
For me its just the damage, oh lord the damage has got to be only slightly better than PK. they've changed him around but kept all of his issues. very impressive tbh
Even though lb is my most played character with something like 32 days counted on the timer in game this rework almost made no difference to me the only thing I fell is my ability to enter my finisher is faster especially for pressure or just to be annoying especially in ganks but other then that I haven't really changed anything heck I almost think doing a second heavy instead of the quick tap light to catch panicked dodgers if you delay it is still more effective then anything else in his kit cause everyone through the 2nd light so when you throw a 2nd heavy instead they cease to function all together
This might be my least favorite rework they have ever done. Its like typing with the pinky on your left hand backwards. Its not a a huge change, could work around it, everything is pretty much the same but it all feels just different enough to feel worse. I hate it more than if they just top to bottom reworked him.
Nice tips. I have a question though. What should I do when I'm getting 4v1'd as a rep 18 lb by 4 turtleing rep 70's who are all using feats while I'm stuck in a corner?
No light attack from warlord does 20 damage. His highest damage light, is a cc that does 17. Not to mention that 20 damage heavy gives a 4 damage light free, for 24. 24, average damage.
@@manz7860 First off it’s a bo staff, not a stick. Second off, the only attack shaolin has that does more than 24 damage is none qi stance chain heavies. You know, no properties plain chain heavies. Meanwhile Lawbringer has a 32 damage finisher unblockable. A attack more likely to land, does more damage and is a actual mix. Please actually spend more than two seconds on this
Is there like a guide or tip to get 3 perks from my armor? I have opened like 60 premium boxes and i've still been unable to obtain the three perks you have on your lawbringer i'm rep 9 if that is a issue. Side issue if you have the time how do i deal with afeera I seem to do ok vs most things but a decent one of those is ehhh.
Im sorry, "wallsplat damage reduction" is an actual thing in this game? Never had it happen for me. Love getting thrown into a wall and seeing 25, 28, 24.
this video convinced me that new lawbringer isnt bad by any means (which was your goal), but poorly designed. He has less depth than before. Usecase diversity was destroyed for the parry punishes, with zone riposte being objectively better than light riposte, and impale riposte being moved to light parry. Same goes for the bash after heavy. Why do anything other than light combo? They straight up ruined this character, and despite constant rebuttal from the so called comp players, I actually enjoyed the "disabler, parry counter attacker" playstyle of the character. He was unique in that sense, but I cant win on the stun topic because apparently you guys have light sensitivities or chronic epilepsy or some shit idk.
@@manz7860 Well to play devils advocate they prolly mean the light riposte stun, but again I don't have a problem with stun I actually think its an interesting mechanic.
Honestly the whole reason I fell for lawbringer is for his fun inpale gameplay’s but now it not as fun as it use to.I’m a sucker for his hyper armor tho, forever rip inpale and concussion🪦🪦🪦.
Do longarm from neutral they'll never see it coming
They won't expect it the fourth time
Only if it's against Jonny boi
Like I never see it coming when people spam heavies and lights into my full guard, so I actually get hit because I let go of full guard expecting people to actually react to my full guard.
Nolo Superstes!
I'm glad we are practically the same person @@KazumiyaEnthusiast
Heres a few of my tips
Backwards light attack is a relatively safe way to get into hyper armor heavy
Throw heavy feint into light attack every so often
Sprinting impale can catch people off guard if you can manage to get it off in the middle of your fight
Pray your opponent is trash because lawbringer is playing the game on hard mode
Last tip almost made me drop a lil tear 💧
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My problem with lawbringer, who I play faithfully, is that everyone and their mothers always manages to parry my heavy attack. I can throw out feints and mix it up, they still get the parry off.
I hope lawbro gets his heavy parry impale back after a while like how glad got his knock down toe stab back. Over 60 reps in him and it hurts my soul to see warmonger, cent. Jj, afeera and so on get 30 or more damage on a heavy parry when lawbringer’s only did 25. Why Ubi decided to delete the usefulness of the move (except in the one scenario where there’s a ledge behind your opponent) instead of reducing its travel distance baffles me.
Wall splat off of Impale should stun. At least it wouldn't be useless anymore 🤷
Warmonger should not have impale either.
because ubi trying to make every hero play the same
@@YourLocalWarThunderFemboyyeah and at the same time warmonger has heavy parry impale. I believe that LB will be great again
Also that heavy parry punish is genius for 4v4.
I can see the devs clearly going for anti-gank viability with several of their LB changes.
For sure. He is a lot better defensively with some of these changes.
I'm gonna miss old law so much man 😔
Why? It’s not like they changed how you play him - just hyper armour and better combos.
I'm 7 months late to the party but I think when a rework happens (which is typically for the better) when people main that hero the muscle memory is SO ingrained i think it throws people off. A bad example for me was valk very first rework like years ago where you did the sweep from pulling backwards and using guardbreak. Then they changed it to just guardbreak button so it kinda tossed the 50 50 out the window cause I used to get 2 hits with valk then use a guardbreak instead of a sweep to catch people. Now I can't do that and its frustrating. Even tho the multiple reworks make the hero better it still messed with me. Especially with the all guard shield bash if it wiffed or someone dodged you could do a light attack and was mad effective. Can't do that anymore:(
@@mylan4742fast forward and law bringer is one of the worst characters in the game
1 thing about the impale is that if u hit a wall and longarm, I'm fairly sure u can get a side light into a corfirmed top light, netting u 30 damage. It's only 1 more but still 🤷♂️
I tried that out, and it is not confirmed. Maybe if the opponent attempts to dodge, but not normally.
@Jondaliner if reflex guard was still a thing it would be 😂
I still hope the devs give him some more options as a “parry specialist” he’s not so special anymore in terms of the options he had available to him. Yet there is some good things that came with the rework. I just personally feel like the opportunity was wasted.
I hope Ubisoft does something for his top opener heavy; it was (and still is) meant to be used as a wallsplat punish, yet it always punishes the player for using it correctly.
One tip i learned was use the ub top in duels and the ub side in ganks, the top can soft feint and is a good mixup because they always have to make a resd, while the sides have a good cleave for target swapping and externaling
Doesn't matter, Jon, it looks like we will be the only 2 remaining Lawbringer players around the world.
And I make 3!
@@TheDancerMacabre And got back to 2, I gave up with Lawbringer.
Back to 3, I started playing again!
@@dakotatomlinson8461 Sad.
@@FullAdDariusBR 4! I'm new
This was very helpful, I used to play a ton of him back when the game first came out and it's been hell getting back into him
Also after the wallsplat they get a guaranteed light because you don’t have hyperarmor on the finisher and the second light doesn’t stun
Not if you long arm
I feel like getting a successful impale to a wall should stun (similar to warmonger's impale inflicting bleed on a wall splat) It would at least make the move a little more useful.
As a newborn LB player, thanks Jon :)
That heavy parry + Zone got me winning more fights!
We're on the same page when it comes to the wall: Only wallsplat if you plan to go for the longarm...which is anytime that you can do it.
Some other things I found were that you can get a forward bash into side light after heavy parry for 13 damage instead of 12. Also, you can wallsplat to set up a guaranteed chain heavy by throwing forward, do backwards light and top heavy for 26 damage over 24.
These were probably the tricks you mentioned already existed, but there is more incentive to use them now.
RIP Guardbreak Longarm
I really wish theyd just give the heavy parry impale back
Give lawbringer a charged unblockable hyperarmor feintable heavy. Just like shugoki, hito, and centurion
Why tho
Impale is so bad now. Only way for it to be good again without reverting the nerf is to copy Raider's choo choo train move from GB. Just giving an opponent a ride on the spiky end of a polearm, instead of over the shoulder.
Or on heavy parry give me an animation like jiang jun where he grabs their throat then throw em
7:09 I bet you didn't block it either this time and you skipped it ahah
Hey don't call me out like that 😢
@@Jondaliner Happens to the bests ahah
For the impale. It can be useful for executing away from a fight
If you let go of them early before the impale reaches a wall you can get an extra move in and chain them all while knocking them to the wall still. Don’t sleep on it 😜
It be really cool if you could knock down your opponent with the impale if they were out of stamina, kinda like Warmonger, doing extra damage too.
Bro as a one trick lawbringer main for almost 5 years now seeing him constantly getting dumpstered actually sucks so much.
I used ub top on heavy parry on old LB,like 3 times
I’d love to see a roll catcher for lawbringer where he impales you and pins you so the ground for a free chain light. Or just make his roll catcher the pre-rework impale.
Ok but have you tried light party impale wallsplat into longarm into emote
21 damage + 10 Mental damage, optimal combo indeed
the problem with new law is his damage 20 damage for heavy is so bad
Should do 23 and the tap does a single damage
Thanks jon. I missed his dodge forward cancel cuz i just learn how to do that 😞
After this new patch ALL of my zones are paired of my parry punishes now
Give me your tip 10 times and it will improve my law bringer😩
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My guy is sus 👀
Both lb and conq need some buffs like damage buffs,ect
LB damage is fine wym
What was their plan of action? I spent so much damn time on this character and got so much stuff for him, and now I feel like a bot and want to throw him in the garbage.
> Come back to for honor after 4 years.
> Tryna see the changes and look whats good.
> They removed his impale.
It's so joever.
Rip hyper armor shove, I remember I started playing lawbringer a lot like a month before they changed that and I got sad
@Jondaliner do you prefer the previous version or this version of lawbringer, i find this rework very lackluster and dont really like playing lawbro anymore
I like stuff from both. But if I had to choose, it would be previous LB. He was more viable for duels. But the new one feels better for 4s.
And they also nerve is damaged so much that I am probably losing more fights that I would’ve won because his damages so low that other characters heavys deal more damage than his even though we’re supposed to get our unblockables easier they don’t want to have us be too powerful. I just call that favoritism of others because you know the lawbringer mains aren’t a big part of the community and so you can get away with such a big nerf without much criticism.
just buff lb so it wouldnt feel like i am playing the game on deathwish difficulty but still there is warmonger after she parries you you cant dodge her punish and she will take at least 20 dmage from you and even wall splat you
And have frame advantage for enhanced lights.....
Wallsplat does 30. Otherwise it does 9.
Lawbringer is fine
@@shalashaskaseven4841never speak again and delete your comment
Scrub opinion here but none the less imo the rework is kinda lackluster I would like a double light chain, roll catcher and keep impale on heavy parry but lower the damage but that’s me
Wallsplats are now worth it I think with recent damage buffs
Am I the only one who’s pissed they for some reason didn’t green light his light chain? They said the goal of his rework was to remove the clunky feeling of him and provide more flow to his kit, yet they didn’t let his light chain go to live so he’s still stuck throwing a neutral light and then… well that’s basically it. A neutral light is forced to follow up with a heavy which has little to no mix up potential. I hate that so much.
I wanted it too 😕
I wounder after this vid I’ll see some laws case I swear it’s like they all disappear
Heavy, same side light into heavy ub OR feintable long-arm 😎 What do you think Jon?
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@@RavenWolfGaming Alo
They should do something with impale after a parry it looks so trash and it will 100% of the time never land like wtf is that
Bring back heavy impale. Either nerf the range or change it so it works like raiders and warmonger wallsplat.
@manz7860 like why even have it on heavy parry still its more useless then longarm now
For me its just the damage, oh lord the damage has got to be only slightly better than PK.
they've changed him around but kept all of his issues. very impressive tbh
i just want dodge attacks or at least extended side shove dodges haha
This is the video I've been waiting for
Even though lb is my most played character with something like 32 days counted on the timer in game this rework almost made no difference to me the only thing I fell is my ability to enter my finisher is faster especially for pressure or just to be annoying especially in ganks but other then that I haven't really changed anything heck I almost think doing a second heavy instead of the quick tap light to catch panicked dodgers if you delay it is still more effective then anything else in his kit cause everyone through the 2nd light so when you throw a 2nd heavy instead they cease to function all together
Just got lawbringer today so this is very convenient thanks j
Sad violin plays in the distance for impale
He needs medjay level of range on his heavies
it damn helped me man fr
Impaling is good to save a teammate from a duo gank
This might be my least favorite rework they have ever done. Its like typing with the pinky on your left hand backwards.
Its not a a huge change, could work around it, everything is pretty much the same but it all feels just different enough to feel worse.
I hate it more than if they just top to bottom reworked him.
Does the guard break into long arm still work in this rework? I’ve been trying maybe I’m gettin rusty lol
thanck you mr green
Part of the rework is so stupid! They did the Orochi shit so now we are less likely to get executions with 20 damage
Been a while since I played or heard anything about the game but what happened to the feintable shove?
Nice tips.
I have a question though.
What should I do when I'm getting 4v1'd as a rep 18 lb by 4 turtleing rep 70's who are all using feats while I'm stuck in a corner?
Pray 🙏
@@Jondalinerthat literally happened to me while I was watching this and I was on such a long losing streak I just started ranting in the comments 😭
can we get videos like this for all characters
I wish the opening heavy did 23 damage and the tap only did 1
Or even just 22 and 2
He is damn near useless… a light attack from warlord does 20 damage…. And a top heavy from lawbringer does… 20
No light attack from warlord does 20 damage. His highest damage light, is a cc that does 17.
Not to mention that 20 damage heavy gives a 4 damage light free, for 24. 24, average damage.
Shaolin does more damage with his dinky little stick -_-
@@manz7860 First off it’s a bo staff, not a stick.
Second off, the only attack shaolin has that does more than 24 damage is none qi stance chain heavies. You know, no properties plain chain heavies.
Meanwhile Lawbringer has a 32 damage finisher unblockable. A attack more likely to land, does more damage and is a actual mix.
Please actually spend more than two seconds on this
@@shalashaskaseven4841it’s a stupid stick. Shut up glorifying it.
can we still long arm in guardbreak?
Is there like a guide or tip to get 3 perks from my armor? I have opened like 60 premium boxes and i've still been unable to obtain the three perks you have on your lawbringer i'm rep 9 if that is a issue. Side issue if you have the time how do i deal with afeera I seem to do ok vs most things but a decent one of those is ehhh.
i play this game annually and everytime i return they done completly flipped my mains
Wish we could long arm in chain lol
Im sorry, "wallsplat damage reduction" is an actual thing in this game? Never had it happen for me. Love getting thrown into a wall and seeing 25, 28, 24.
Yep. Typically only happens with heroes who have quick light chains.
@@Jondalinerbet ubisoft won't ever bother to patch it.
Meanwhile his 38 damage light parry punish got patched in a week.
Jamal
Jamal
How do you delay the bash?
Wait a little extra time after dodging forward before you press the GB button.
RIP Impale
Definitely glab they made law viable as an anti ganker with the HA, but they prolly coulda kept the stun, at least on the top heavy finishers.
Tip 1, don't play new lawbringer
From what I've seen as well, a lot of LB player's don't know he can soft feint his top unblockable from chain into GB. Handy tip
This Rework is so bad 😮💨😔
this video convinced me that new lawbringer isnt bad by any means (which was your goal), but poorly designed. He has less depth than before. Usecase diversity was destroyed for the parry punishes, with zone riposte being objectively better than light riposte, and impale riposte being moved to light parry. Same goes for the bash after heavy. Why do anything other than light combo? They straight up ruined this character, and despite constant rebuttal from the so called comp players, I actually enjoyed the "disabler, parry counter attacker" playstyle of the character. He was unique in that sense, but I cant win on the stun topic because apparently you guys have light sensitivities or chronic epilepsy or some shit idk.
I never understood why people's are mad about lawbringers stun in particular.
If you dodge roll out of it he can't do anything about it.
@@manz7860 Well to play devils advocate they prolly mean the light riposte stun, but again I don't have a problem with stun I actually think its an interesting mechanic.
Lawbringer got fucked for the 15th time in a row, and we have a new samurai event.
Call me crazy, but there's some partiality from ubisoft.
over all LB is fucked.
10 tips for reworked lawbringer.
1.- dont use him
The end.
Honestly the whole reason I fell for lawbringer is for his fun inpale gameplay’s but now it not as fun as it use to.I’m a sucker for his hyper armor tho, forever rip inpale and concussion🪦🪦🪦.
Zerk and medjay have much better hyper armor spam
I'm not a LB main but to me this looks like he flows a lot nicer now.
He doesn’t trust me
@@nicholasmargagliano1833
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Lawbringer need buff because he can't dodge anything😂🤡🤡
LB is garbage now man 😢😢
How to play new lawbro?
Just play him like you used to just remember you have new minuscule things
6 wasted months of testing grounds. 2 iterations of the rework....only to go with minimal changes 🤦🏻♂️
@@manz7860a lot of community complaints caused it to be minimal
As a non lawbringer player I see this as an absolute win😂
Lawbringer is dead