Customized Rossi 92 357 carbine | JP Podcast Ep - 27
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- No rifle does classic American styling and swift, light handling like Rossi's legendary R92. Built on the proven model 92 lever action. The Rossi R92 combines a traditional hardwood stock with blued finish to deliver a big-bore rifle suitable for the backwoods or the back forty. Adjustable rear buckhorn sight, an elegant classic wood profile, and an exquisitely smooth-cycling action prove that contemporary engineering can pair seamlessly with time-honored craftsmanship and design.
Today we are customizing Rossi 92 357 carbine.
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There is only one part that is plastic on that rifle and is neither the king's gate/ loading gate nor the magazine tube cap. The plastic part that you need to replace is your mag tube follower.
Hi there!I own a 92 Rossi and I am so happy with it,mine is stainless steel!Never had a hungup with it ,works perfectly,the stock is beautiful and aleady shot over 1000 rounds .
Keep having fun!
Not the color I would have chosen, but it looks very good and you did a great job.
Thanks
For between coat sanding's, try bronze wool used in the maritime industry. It comes in many grades and cannot rust as with steel wool.
I wonder why Rossi doesn't put the saddle ring on these rifles any longer. I used to have a Rossi Puma .357 I used as a truck gun. I called it "The Pet" and it brought home as much big game as any rifle I own.
I have my 1st 92 20" in .357 stainless w/o that damn safety on the receiver. I picked up another about 7 years ago that DID have the safety which I promptly removed as a levergun doesn't need one and they just cause problems. I used a .25ACP case that I sanded the case head markings off so it was smooth and clean. I deprimed the spent case and reprised it with a new primer I had gutted and removed any compound from. It makes a great filler for the hole left from the safety and is also a "Perfect Fit"...😊
...just ordered a 20 inch rifle...glad to gave found this channel...
Thank you. I'm very happy with my Rossi
If you have a local gunsmith, it's worth it to take it to them, smooth the edges and a slightly lighter spring for the loading port. I haven't done it yet but, those fixes were stated as successful for several owners on the internet and in person.
Yes I have to get back to the Rossi. Trying to finish up a few other projects first. Did order a black sling for it
I think this looks really good man. I really love the idea of personalizing this rifle since you can’t really upgrade it in anyway like the more expensive ones.
I want to buy one and do the same now. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you! I did change the sling out for a black leather sling and it looks way better.
Wow, that is so beautiful! It really looks like a gorgeous antique carbine from the 1800s. Cheers!
I love my repro '92 (Chiappa 1892) from Italy. The 92 always felt like a smoother action than the '94. Don't listen to the folks that say you shouldn't modify/personalize YOUR rifle. Those are the idiots who never shoot them and hide them away, then die and their grandchildren wind up selling them at a pawn shop for pennies on the dollar. Never enjoyed, sad. (BTW, it's not a 100yr old original Winchester that Sitting Bull carried, it's a modern repro made to be shot and used. Shoot it often and it'll get smoother and smoother.
To be fair. I do ask for comments. Even if they don't agree with me or like what I do. On the other hand, you're right. It's a cheaper gun made to shoot and have fun with. I'm hoping it does get better and smoother the more I shoot it
Right on. I Indianized my r92 and shoot it at least every couple of weeks. Hopefully someone that liked me will end up with it because its totally my style. I almost bought a high dollar Henry reproduction that already looked old, glad I didn't because it wasn't my handy work
Tell them , they are just repeating what some pompous internet expert said .
😄the carbine shown at 18.02 is a spanish "el tigre", as in many old western.....🤠 the front sight is tipical of this carbine.
Sling is good. Also add a brass or stainless magazine tube follower, reduced power ejector spring, reduced power hammer spring, a saddle ring, and a wrap for the lever
Nice flinch at 17:10. As a sniper I know it's supposed to be a surprise.
Hi PJ. Those front sights are referred to as "Buckhorn" sights which were created for quick target aquisition at close range.
Thank you
Strange how everyone feels that I should get a revolver but I feel better with a rifle, will continue to try them out and really see which one I like better.
That's the best thing to do. Don't settle
.357 mag shoots smooth as butter out of this carbine. A short barrel revolver.. kicks like a mule
you can get a rifle revolver from rossi as well, in 357 magnum
You used enough of that stripper to repaint a 66 Buick!
The Rossi’s are a great value. Yours looks great. Good job. The light color stocks is fairly uncommon so it stands out. Some like it others don’t. To each is own.
As for the cycling issue. Check the cartridge stop. It must protrude about halfway blocking the next round in the tube. With a fully loaded magazine is has the most pressure on the rounds. With the spring having the most compression, it may be at that time is it able to push past the cartridge stop arm. If the arm isn’t fully extended. Good luck & have fun with Blondie
Thank you! I will be looking into the magazine issue soon
Good job
If you are still having the feeding issue with the first round, try when you load the last round, take 1 more round and use it to push the last round a bit farther into the feeding tube. I've seen other issues similar to this, but those were with .38 ammo, but it may fix it for your issue as well. Sometimes the last round doesn't push the round in front of it fully forward so the catch for the round hasn't engaged the round holding it in place so there is some push back on that last round which causes a feeing issue.
I've wanted a 357 lever action for a long time too. I'd like to find a stainless and the color of the stock in your project I think would be beautiful contrasted with a stainless rifle.
I’ve done several strip/refinish projects. If you take your time they can turn out pretty well. I’ve had very good luck with Tru-Oil. It really gives a nice, durable finish. I agree with you on the sights, I can’t stand buckhorn sights.Good job sir.
Thank you
Dude, that is sweet! I was thinking about getting a Henry .357, but might go with Rossi now. One more week, and I'll be ready to go shooting. Signed, Turdy
Lol. If I had a choice I would go with the Henry. I just came across this one. It's not bad. Still got to tweak it a little bit and I'm very happy with it
Turdy Shullick!!!!! ❤❤❤
Rossi is way better than Henry on this model 92. Just get one and use it as often as possible and it’ll break in nicely.
I bought the Henry, sweet rifle!
Sounds like "Bubbles" from the "Trailer Park Boys" haha
For your sights swap out with “Bullseye” sights, you can find them on line at Midway or Brownells for about $20, no modifications, slide right in same slot as old ones. Like a peep sight but better can see the whole picture, have them on all my levers. 🤙🏼❤️🇺🇸🤠
I will look into those. Thank you
I ordered the bullseye sight yesterday. Thank you again
@@JPPodcast - have you gotten it yet? If so what do ya think about it
@@BrockNessMonster1991 Yes I did. I have it on and have to sight it in. Much easier to focus with it. It is super snug and I hope I don't have to move it much more.
And it's looks great with it on
You did a wonderful job. That's a great looking rifle. I just bought one of those. I was thinking of going tactical with it but I really like the work you did on it.
Thank you
Damn that was some good work man, that thing is beautiful!!
Thank you
Stuff like this makes me think, not my style, but VERY nice! I actually think you could make a case that this could/would add to the resale value. Great job
I like that suggestion a lot. Thank you!
I have one just like it and it was rough action wise but all I did was just shoot it and after about 250 rounds she smothed out nicely.
Thank you. I plan to take it back out and get more rounds through it
Im not a big fan of wood etching but it does look pretty cool with leather. If anything I would give the wood a camo paint job, a flat black paint for the metal parts, and some well made leather for the butt and strap. I would also take it apart and "slick it up", lighten up the trigger, sand the edge of the loading gate, thread the barrel for a suppressor, add a rail and a very basic 1-4× scope.
Nice job! I like the lighter color. Looks great. I have the stainless 20” version in .357.
Thank you
Looks awesome
Thank you!
Looks good. I stained my Rossi a black amber color just to have something a little different then everyone else. I try to do this with all my Guns. At the end of the day you make the Rifle your own with personal touches. There are a ton of Rossi 92’s out there and most look the same, not many if any that look like yours, none! I have seen anyway, Cool video enjoy Blondie.
Thank you very much!! I wish I could see other custom Rossi 92s. Not very many videos on them
I agree, make it "your" unique rifle, or different. Mine is darker and I like it but the engraving is a cool idea and with the name Blondie, it works for this rifle being lighter.
Thanks. That's the first thing everyone wants to see when they come over lol
Did you just apply the black amber or go thru an entire strip like this guy did?
@@damrgee8279 I stripped it off
I recommend the Marble Bullseye sight that replaces the stock buckhorn sight. I love it on my R92.
That's the exact one I put on it. Gotta take it out again and try it
Question for you JP. When you had the feeding issue on the first round, were you using 38 special ammo?
I believe there is an issue when using shorter 38 special ammo that the last round into the loading gate is to short to push the round ahead of it past the cartridge stop so it doesn't hold it in the magazine tube properly. You could test this theory by loading as usual then use a blunt object like the eraser end of a pencil to give the last round a small push. about 1/4" should be enough. Let us know if this works.
I was using 357 and I'll have to try your suggestion. I play to do a part 2 and correct some of the things I said wrong and get the feeding issue resolved
I like what you did. My idea was to have 2 1892 silver dollars inlayed into the stock.
Thank you and your idea will be awesome to see
Likely too much spring pressure, overcoming the cartridge stop. It seems that Rossi puts the same length spring in their 20" barrel models, as they do in the 24". The result is, the spring really needs to be shortened by several inches, to get the excessive spring tension under control.
The cure: Trim the spring down until only about 3" (more or less) protrudes from the end of the magazine tube. That will still give plenty of tension, while making it far easier to load the last couple of cartridges into the magazine.
The Rossi's action really smooths up nicely, with a reduced power spring kit. Replacing the ejector spring in particular, will go a long way in reducing the amount of force needed to work the action. It will also feel much smoother.
Placing a shim under the trigger return spring(between the tang and spring), will reduce the trigger pull by several pounds. A shim cut from a soda can works well.
Also, gently polishing all the contact surfaces of the rifle's internal action parts(bolt, finger lever, etc.) really smooths out the action, too. Where to polish will be easy to spot, once the rifle has been shot a bit.
As for that buckhorn sight. Either file off the horns, or replace it with a flattop sight. That will make sight acquisition easier and faster.
The Rossi '92 turns into a sweet little rifle, without much effort. These few fixes are cheap, simple and deliver good results.
Hope this helps.
Al
Thank you for all the suggestions. Looks like I'll be making a part two on this video lol
very nice, love the way you made it an original. I have a Henry x and the Rossi r92. I shoot the r92 more and will look into getting her engraved.
Thank you. Gonna do a part 2 and show all the changes I made since. I highly recommend getting it engraved
Very, very, very nice job on that.
Thank you
Great video, looks fantastic! I'm going to be doing a similar project, thank you for the tips!
Thank you. Hope yours comes out great too!
People here have commented on “ cycling the rifle faster” and “using a particular type of ammo” all may help. However if you understand how the model 92 works. Then their suggestion should be lower on the list. For your particular situation.
If you have a common bullet profile and the correct over all length of ammo and the rifle is mechanically in tolerance. Then it is generally the cartridge stop, cartridge elevator or magazine follower sticking. Is typically the cause. I’m not a gunsmith but I have worked on about a dozen model 92’s. From different manufacturers but mostly Rossi’s I hope this helps.
I appreciate it. I have screenshot both your comments and will use them to address my issues. So many projects going on lately but I need to get back to Blondie lol. Only thing I've done with the 92 is change the sling to a black leather one.
... Steve's Gunz of Lampasas, Texas sells online an excellent kit on how to customize and smooth a Rossi 92 rifle
To each its own but I like them original they hold their value
🎉🎉🎉 good job brother
You did a GREAT job
Thank you
Looks great. Nice job!
Thank you
Very nicely done (and nicely filmed); thank you for sharing with us. I am as particular about my axe/hatchet handles as you are with your carbine stock, though less artistic. I always strip/sand them down, then decide whether to stain before the Linseed Oil. My Rossi 92 is in .44, with 16-inch barrel, and all I have done is filed down the front part of the loading port, to remove the sharp edge (and then I re-blued that small area). It is functional; yours is lovely. Thank you.
Thank you very much!
Looks good, but I think it would have looked better darker! Just me though!👍🏻
I highly recommend parts from StevesGunz and replace that safety
Thanks. I will do that
Awesome job!
Thank you
The magazine spring only needs to be strong enough to push the last round into the loading ramp. You can cut off the rest. Just cut off a coil or two at a time until it still works good.
Thank you. I will try that
I love the engraving by the way that not a carbine
It looks good. Why worry about resale? After this i would keep it forever. Custom made just for you to love it. Awesome process and well explained video. I enjoyed it! Maybe the ammo you used for the recycling? Check the hornady leverevolution and see if you have same issues.
Youre right. I'm gonna keep it. Thank you very much on the ammo suggestion. I appreciate it. Will try that out
Now, it looks like a Red Ryder BB gun.
Not a personal fan of the lighter color wood and the drilled sling hole in the stock (I'm worried it could split the wood so I made my own stock cover with a sling attachment on it) but hey, if you like it that's all that matters man!
Good job on the tru oil
Thank you!
Looks good, try blue Loctite under the front swivel clamps. The clamps will hold a lot better.
Thank you!! I honestly didn't know what to do about that. Much appreciated
@@JPPodcast make sure you degrease with alcohol or something similar then use the Loctite. That way the Loctite holds.
Thank you
I have the m92 in 44. I took the saddle ring off because it rattles and polished the internals. If I was you I’d take the safety out and replace it with a peep sight. Buckhorns suck
I thought about putting on the saddle ring but didn't for that very reason
@@JPPodcast they actually make a little mount that goes in the dovetail and you can put a little red dot on it too. I thought about doing that. My eyes are wearing out hahaha
Lol mine also
Was there some significance (personalization) to the engraving design or was it a stock (preset) design? What was the cost for the engraving, roughly?
I told them what I wanted and he drew a couple of designs for me and that was the one I wanted. To be honest about pricing. I forget, but it was over $200. Well worth it.
Wow ! now it really looks like a BB gun. too light. I thought it was gonna turn out darker with a prettier brownish color not redish. Mine does has a darker brown color and it looks awesome like the one you see in the old cowboy movies. When you cycle it you need to not pause, just do it quick.
I like the concept but yeah, I would have made the wood darker on this one as well. Mine is already pretty dark/brown so I'm good to go. .38 special rounds will get hung up if you don't cycle them really quick. .357 cycles good at any speed but do it fast every time and you won't notice any stickiness.
Looks like this was beechwood stained to look like walnut. Beech is insanely blonde and nothing but stain will darken it much. Learned that from Hungarian AK furniture.
Nice job! I don't think a Rossi is going to be a collector's item in the next several generations. It's a Winchester copy plus 100+ years, after all. I ordered one with the intention of customizing it. These are budget guns that look -like you said; like a Daisy Red Rider. They need some character. You only added to the value IMO.
Thank you very much! That was my thinking. Now a Winchester or Henry. I wouldn't touch
They are called buckhorn sights.
I think it looks way better after you dressed it up
Thank you
I got a question: when laser engraving, is it necessary to remove the coating that came with the stock wood? What would happen if I laser engrave directly through that coating layer?
I cut by barrel down so 8/9 magazine. Trapper style , do not whisper ATF😂
Nice job
Thank you
Why not use Hollow Ground Screwdrivers ? And maybe learn the names of all the parts ?
Because you wouldn't have commented otherwise. I get credit for every comment made on my videos
I will look into Hollow Ground Screwdrivers
@@JPPodcast HahahaHa 🥳😭
...Brownell sells excellent hollow ground screwdriver sets...they don't bugger screws as oversized standard ones do
Why are you talking while blasting us out with music? Your hands were talking, but no sound to let us know what they were saying! BTW, the laser work was beautiful!
Where did You get the Sling ??? I like the looks of the Rifle...
I have changed the color of the sling to a black one. Which looks way better. I got them both off Amazon.
Great name and reference. Also, it looks good as a natural blonde.
I bought a stainless version for my son. Never could get it to function properly. Feeding issues with both .38 and .357
I'm working on another project but I will get back to my feeding issue.
Most of the Rossi rifles are only about 95% finished. You should take it to a gunsmith and have tge action smoothed out. It will be worth it.
Do they still make these? I can’t find one for sale anywhere in the country
I'm not really sure
@@JPPodcast I’ve been looking for 8 weeks
@@repetitivemotion they use to be quite comon. 20 years ago they were everywhere, and they went for $300 new. Sometimes you could find them for slightly leas than that. I guess everybody bought them up when Biden and his buddy covid got into the white house.
@@repetitivemotion Grabagun
Looks nice !
Thank you
I have a Puma 92 in .45LC, completely blue, full 24" octagon barrel, full-length magazine. Mine has a steel crescent butt plate instead of the "Ruger 10/22" style yours has. Did they run the crescent on the rifle and the blunt style on the carbine? Or did they change over at some point. My wood, which I tried to lighten with just some denatured alcohol rubbing, looks like walnut. Hard to tell, though, as the original finish looks like axle grease! I'll have to strip it down like you did. But I'm sure mine will come out much darker than yours.
Very accurate: first thing I ever shot at was a jackrabbit at 115 yards. Smoked it. Everyone who shoots it loves it.
Just a thought additionally on the refinish. I am a violinist, and as everyone knows, violin makers have a near monopoly on "secrets" about varnish and finishes. A good maker never uses sandpaper but instead uses scrapers. The reason? Sandpaper was not invented until well after the golden age of violin making, and when it was invented, makers discovered that using sandpaper filled the pores of the wood with sawdust (micro fine) and did not allow the grain and tiger striping to come through in all its beauty. Might be better to do your sanding first and then use a good tack rag, or a quick brushing with denatured alcohol for maximum beauty in your finish. You might be working the sawdust down into the grain and figure of your wood.
The butt plate is a lot like the 10/22. Don't know when or why. I loved shooting it and have to get back to it soon
Sorry…Original looks better.
Same here but in utah the original old ones are hard to find and at a good price
Agreed, when in doubt don't modify unduely
Yes, i agree.
I like the og color but the engraving is for sure a plus.
...I caught the "Blondie" reference...
😂 love that movie
What's with the blurred shooting bench?
Do your spent casings (.357 mag) have a bulge (similar to Glock bulge) due to the chamber mouth being bevel'd for use as a feed ramp?
You know I never looked. I need to take it back out shooting again and look
Plastic gate?? I don’t think so but…?
It looks really good btw
Rossi sights aren't the best. With my r92 SS 24" octagon rifle and my Ranch hand, they were way off. The ranch hand shot 9 inches low. I changed both of them to Marbles sights, the rear sights are marbles bullseye sights. Now they shoot right where you aim.
I have the bullseye sight on there now. Can't wait to try it out
I liked the changes to the stock , but the sling should be darker to somewhat match or bring out the barrel color….. just another opinion.
I appreciate all opinions. This was my first real custom job and yes I plan to go back to it after the holidays and do some more modifications. I love all the ideas everyone is throwing out. A black sling is definitely something I will try
I like it, but mine is stainless so I would go darker on the wood.
I have done 4 other stocks and the reason I went light is because all the other ones are dark and I wanted something lighter. I can always change it because I used the tru-oil and it's easily removed
what was wrong with the original wood finish....?? If it is not broken... then don't fix it...!! The engraving is ok for a show gun/ wall hanger but for a field gun....???
Keep it original that’s the way it’s supposed to be looks like the Winchester 92
What? Gate is plastic now? I got mine brand new in 2020 at the height of the gun crisis/corona/riots, and mine is metal. Mine has been daylied here on my farm Upstate New York and it’s got good honest wear. Even the front sight bead finally popped out and got lost. Only thing I want to change is the follower and the follower spring. Everything else is nicely broken in.
Thank you for the comment. I swear it's plastic but I could be wrong. Working on a few other projects now and will come back to the Rossi again soon. I need to get it broke in
Put a tang aperture on it. Easy accuracy
I'll have to look that up. Thank you
@@JPPodcast Google marbles Tang sight. It will extend your sight radius and sight picture 100% of your focus is on the front sight . The aperture sight will disappear your eye will automatically center your front sight. It's the most intuitive easiest that's why the military uses them. The nice thing about the Tang sight is it as closer to your eye and extends the sight radius for better precision. Good luck 👍
The loading gate is steel… only thing that’s plastic is the mag follower. Mine looks great / I feel no need to refinish the wood.
🇦🇺😎👍Noice
Now it does look like a BB gun. Smh.
Gun shot well however the shooter was shooting high multiple times lol
Lol. No it was on paper. The rear sight was hard to figure out
@@JPPodcast no paper targets where injured during the filming of this video.
Lol
A tattooed rifle. To each his own I guess.
City folk ....
Looks great. F the naysayers.
Thank you!
I did change the sling color to black
I would double check the magazine tube spring to be sure it's at the proper tension. Make sure it's not getting hung up on anything. Also I suggest you cycle the action with some authority, if you don't you end up short stroking the rifle. Short stroking means you did not fully cycle the action which can cause jams. Lastly the sights are called 'semi-buckhorn' sights. They are actually great for short range, which the 357 is ideal for. You can find many 'how-to's' online on how to use them. However try looking up Skinner sights for your Rossi as they are great options...
Leverguns 50 has a great channel on leverguns. Here he is with the Rossi - czcams.com/video/QGeuQr0Mhc0/video.html&ab_channel=Leverguns50 Enjoy!
Thank you
Could not finish your video. The music over the description sux
Ummm, The Rossi is upside down
I like that laser engraving...is there a link???
www.dunnigancreekdesign.com
Dunnigan Creek Design. I highly recommend them!
A little past the 15 min mark in the video I put their business card up.
@@JPPodcast thanx...
Thank you for being a part of the show. Let me know if you get any work done by Dunnigan Creek
Plastic loading gate? Nah!!
Love 92 Winchesters. The Rossi does not have the fine receiver contours of the Winchester. Shame!
What you talking about ?
I did the same to my Rossi92. The original looks like garbage.
It was just too plain looking. Much nicer now. Glad I did it
To bad it's upside down
Not sure why people waste their money on a Rossi
I know! Can't believe I wasted money on a reliable, accurate rifle.
Rossi rifles are reliable and for the money you can't beat them . I have a 1976 Puma model with saddle ring it's awesome and fun too shoot
They did not use to be bad rifles, 20 years ago. I guess demand went up and quality went down.
Old English and avoid all the extra work
Should of removed that garbage import legal safety on the bolt...!!👎