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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
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Komentáře • 154

  • @APennyW
    @APennyW Před měsícem +11

    Thank you for going over my webpage and bringing this information to the many fans of the 1966 Batmobile who haven't seen it before.
    I created that webpage and timeline around 2007 by watching the show, taking notes and grabbing screen captures and it was available to all during the production time of your 1/6th '66.
    This 3rd season look was not a new car, not a new reveal, but just a series of progressive changes needed to a "prop" during the run of a tv show. I believe that 90%+ of people (probably higher) do not know the changes that were made and these details are only important to the historians and those who have studied and have loved the car over all these years on the various webboards.
    I would not be interested in this. You produced the car in details that most know and how it first appeared and I am grateful to have one and to have helped make it so great! If this is an opportunity to release another '66 version for those who missed out the first time or just for more revenue, that is your choice. Maybe think about selling a separate conversion kit to bring it back to the 1st season look, that way whoever wants to approximate the 1st season car they can convert it themselves.
    Atomic Batteries to Power, Turbines to Speed! -John H. aka A. Pennyworth

    • @bac2future407
      @bac2future407 Před měsícem +2

      Can you add the link to this website?

    • @RADEA3856
      @RADEA3856 Před měsícem +1

      Yes, please do add the link to your bat website!!! I don't believe I have ever seen it before!!

  • @TheBigGSN5
    @TheBigGSN5 Před 2 dny +1

    The pink pinstriping just kills it.

  • @wesmccue7091
    @wesmccue7091 Před měsícem +1

    Excellent! Couldnt swing the original, happy to have a shot at this car. 🦇

  • @jasonhimmelright
    @jasonhimmelright Před měsícem +11

    I missed the first one and would love to jump on a season 3 version. I vote yes'

    • @PedroLopez-cy1kl
      @PedroLopez-cy1kl Před měsícem +1

      Good Luck..may all your collecting dreams come true.

  • @Glitch969
    @Glitch969 Před měsícem +3

    I’m already on the waitlist for the ‘66 and would DEFINITELY go for this. Great way to make everyone happy. Win/win!

  • @donnellwilliams6272
    @donnellwilliams6272 Před měsícem +16

    I’m happy for everyone that missed out on the first issue. This gives them the opportunity to have a batmobile in their collection.
    I’m still amazed with the first issue. 🎉

    • @PedroLopez-cy1kl
      @PedroLopez-cy1kl Před měsícem +1

      If we could only get Oprah to proclaim "You get a Batmobile, and You get a Batmobile, and you get a Batmobile...

  • @bujindork
    @bujindork Před měsícem +4

    Anytime a speculator loses money an angel gets his wings. I prefer S3 Batmobile so I say make it so I can get one

  • @Mr.0ne
    @Mr.0ne Před měsícem +8

    Awesome! I just waitlisted myself. Thanks Jazzinc!

  • @MauroDevita-le8dk
    @MauroDevita-le8dk Před měsícem +4

    I fully support this project. I have just added my name to the waiting list. Great idea! Mauro

  • @MrAerialsound
    @MrAerialsound Před měsícem +6

    This is a great idea for those on the wait list!!!!!

  • @FlipFlab
    @FlipFlab Před měsícem +12

    Feedback on this video is really something. Kind of pathetic to see so many people crying about their value dropping.

    • @powerglover2021
      @powerglover2021 Před měsícem

      I've been collecting hot toys and vehicles for 15 years and never acted like that when there's a better figure or re-release. I collect because I love this stuff.

    • @FlipFlab
      @FlipFlab Před měsícem

      @@powerglover2021 yeah it’s sad to see. I couldn’t care less he he does batch releases for anything for a second go. If people care so much he can slap a 2nd batch label on it somewhere so eBay resellers can clarify theirs is the OG and retain some kinda imaginary price hike.

  • @BluTattu
    @BluTattu Před měsícem +2

    Sweet! Totally happy with it! I missed the 66 cause I was paying on the ZSJL Batmobile. I'm down for another chance at an Adam West Batmobile please!

  • @tessjess1
    @tessjess1 Před měsícem

    Looks great Joost.....those people on the wait list will be happy with that..👍👌

  • @Mark43777
    @Mark43777 Před měsícem +2

    I think it's a good idea for those who did not get the first batmobile 66 when out . Now they can enjoy this version of 68 and looks very nice . But please don't forget to get the Green Hornet's Black Beauty as I believe the duo gh and kato showed up in the 3rd season of probably the most iconic batman episode ever.

  • @stephenmaximo4017
    @stephenmaximo4017 Před měsícem

    Although I would really love to have a BVS/Justice League Batmobile, I love that you guys don't do re-releases or 2.0s. It makes having one of your pieces that much more special.

  • @billk5915
    @billk5915 Před měsícem +2

    I’m already on the waitlist and would definitely buy the season 3. I’d buy both if old collectors are looking to sell their 66. Didn’t buy originally because I didn’t have space for it, and now I do.

    • @RM-hj5lv
      @RM-hj5lv Před měsícem

      Where are you located? I'm selling mine for retail.

  • @davesmancaveirl
    @davesmancaveirl Před měsícem +4

    Have the 66 was lucky enough to convert on the waitlist. On the fence with this one too would be great to have both 🤔

  • @misaelsantaolalla7786
    @misaelsantaolalla7786 Před měsícem +3

    I love this prototype, and, if the paint job isnt glossy like the first one, but more matte and flat this time. It'll be a totally different car look. Please make this :D

  • @PedroLopez-cy1kl
    @PedroLopez-cy1kl Před měsícem +7

    It's funny to me, This issue of "exclusivity", 2.0s, or Reissues does not exist in the 1:1 66 Batmobile community as Everyone who wants and can afford it has one commissioned if no used ones are available for sale. No one cries foul or say " only im good enough to own this" I've got my Jazz 66 batmobile and Id be interested 2.0s with more bells and whistles like an opening hood with detailed engine. Everyone who wants a 66 1/6 batmobile should be able to get one. Its a mistake for any 1/6 collectable to be ever labeled "limited". It's just a matter of time before these batmobiles will be 3-D printed anyways. Joost should be free to make all the money he can, especially if there is a market and demand. Happy collecting

    • @k2sworld
      @k2sworld Před měsícem +4

      I have to say I agree with this sentiment. I own the 1966 and would have no problem at all with Joost running another batch or putting them into production again, or as a cycle every few years, so everyone who wants one can get one. Had the 1966 been released during the lockdowns, I wouldn't have been able to get one. Things happen, life gets in the way, and having to miss out on something so glorious as the 1966 Batmobile due to temporary financial woes would only make one feel worse. I missed out on the 1989 Batwing because I didn't even know it existed until they were all done and sent out. I am paying down the 89 Batmobile and would love to be able to get the Batwing someday if there were another batch run. Don't change anything, just put them same molds back into production. That's my 2¢.

    • @user-hx4br8to3q
      @user-hx4br8to3q Před měsícem +1

      Sure, but was anyone originally selling the 1:1 as a limited edition with the reputation of their company on the line?

    • @user-hx4br8to3q
      @user-hx4br8to3q Před měsícem +1

      @@k2sworld That remake idea would be fine if it had been announced when they were originally sold. There are plenty of Batwings out there already, I see them for sale.

    • @PedroLopez-cy1kl
      @PedroLopez-cy1kl Před měsícem

      @@user-hx4br8to3q in my opinion, the screen used car(s) from the Movie/TV Show are just that.. everything else is are replica's made to order.

  • @movieflicktube
    @movieflicktube Před měsícem +1

    FANTASTIC IDEA! Thank you! Added name to waiting list.

  • @markmitchell6540
    @markmitchell6540 Před měsícem +3

    Great I would be up for it.

  • @NightWinggl
    @NightWinggl Před měsícem +4

    Missed out on the first one, so this very tempting, and really cool that's it's not exactly the same.

  • @gerarddepardieu9347
    @gerarddepardieu9347 Před měsícem +1

    ready! I am already on the waiting list, I am happy for the possibility of having this piece in my collection, now as a new collector I am excited about this project, I hope it is a fact! thank you Joost❤

  • @_eddielee
    @_eddielee Před měsícem +2

    I'll keep holding out for the 1/12 version of the 66' and 89'. Hell give me all them, lets get that kick starter going!

  • @Mark43777
    @Mark43777 Před měsícem +2

    Do this in a very limited blue shaded option also like BTAS you have now. But a little lighter blue or dark blue comic book style from 60s. Just an idea💡

  • @MrMusashiMusashi
    @MrMusashiMusashi Před měsícem +1

    I'll be getting this, if it's offered! Let's do this!!!!

  • @keithbennett5179
    @keithbennett5179 Před měsícem +3

    Love the idea!

  • @artus928
    @artus928 Před měsícem +3

    Great News!!!

  • @ean1281
    @ean1281 Před měsícem +2

    Hi joost this is an excellent idea I'm sure it'll be nothing short of absolutely amazing

  • @tonydouglas1404
    @tonydouglas1404 Před 20 hodinami

    I pre-ordered this one it looks awesome.

  • @jonathanmiller789
    @jonathanmiller789 Před měsícem +5

    I’m 100%. Everyone that’s upset can get over themselves.

    • @FlipFlab
      @FlipFlab Před měsícem +1

      Facts lol so many large babies typing on their keyboards here

  • @vaderundershorts
    @vaderundershorts Před měsícem +4

    We hammer Hot Toys for this, these little tweeks. Call it what you want, but this is still a 1.5 release. With that said, the 300 on waitlist will be happy.

    • @MrMusashiMusashi
      @MrMusashiMusashi Před měsícem

      How much needs to change before it's considered a different version? Is the BTTF mk1 the same as mk2 or mk3? Looks and feels like a different car to me.

  • @ospuluquesa6083
    @ospuluquesa6083 Před měsícem +3

    Simplesmente fantástico parabéns pelo projeto.

  • @jamiemccurry8080
    @jamiemccurry8080 Před měsícem +2

    I was contacted about a B-list one available that I couldn't get recently. Am I still on the waitlist for this? If not, I would like to be, please! Thank you!

  • @toddscollectibles980
    @toddscollectibles980 Před měsícem +3

    Sorry I prefer the first one, looks so much better. But like you said you dont do a rerelease 😊
    But I wish you all the best on the sales. Hopefully it would be nice to see some Star Wars dioramas again ❤

  • @georgeam7974
    @georgeam7974 Před měsícem +3

    beautiful wip! thanks Joost, could one of the upcoming projects for the 1989 line be the batcave monitors please??!!! 🙏🏽

    • @TheBigGSN5
      @TheBigGSN5 Před měsícem +2

      You can 3d print them from a site called Cults. They look great and it's vastly cheaper than any company would sell them for.

  • @Feeldaburns
    @Feeldaburns Před měsícem +4

    So this should be cheaper than the original vehicle right?

    • @jfk2167
      @jfk2167 Před měsícem +1

      Really ... Every company in the world that makes a re paint or variant of an existing mold charges the same price they originally did so why expect Jazz to lower the cost ? They are a business like every other, it is actually common practice to always re-use molds to make more money.

    • @JazzIncdioramas
      @JazzIncdioramas  Před měsícem +1

      No, because the original vehicle was designed and produced almost 4 years ago. And we cannot be used any of the tooling.

    • @PedroLopez-cy1kl
      @PedroLopez-cy1kl Před měsícem

      Thats a good question, unfortunately that's not how it works in the business world.

  • @toycollecticon6029
    @toycollecticon6029 Před měsícem +2

    Oh yeah count me in

  • @timharvey5478
    @timharvey5478 Před měsícem

    Fantastic idea I missed out on the first one so this would definitely be something I would be interested in

  • @sethdarque3904
    @sethdarque3904 Před měsícem

    JOOST!......You really amaze me with such talent from you and your creating staff!!!! I'm still amazed at your 1/6 scale first release of your 1966 BatMobile (DX VERSION!). At the time of typing this.....I have the "DX 1966 BATMOBILE" next to my TV on a remote turn table with my Hot Toys BatMan and Robin standing up in the BatMobile rotating around and pausing to look at a few classic "66 BatMan" episodes!....Lololol. Just sitting here looking at that high shine of that gloss black and red Striping running along its contours.....JUST GIVES ME EXCITED CHILLS! DAMN THIS BATMOBILE IS INCREDIBLE LOOKING!!!!! THAT BLACK AND RED!!!!!AND THE LIGHTS AND DETAIL!!!! ITS "EXTRABATORDINARY!". I think when I pass I might have this buried with me!!!!!👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😃

  • @Rcflex1
    @Rcflex1 Před měsícem +2

    Waitlist: Rafael

  • @CharlesBerglund-k5x
    @CharlesBerglund-k5x Před měsícem +1

    why not do the 66 black beauty from the green hornet.remember its the boomer generation that has the deep pockets for this stuff.

  • @stuckin66
    @stuckin66 Před měsícem +2

    I'm in again! Joost, If I can help let me know.

  • @yauyuso
    @yauyuso Před měsícem +3

    I appreciate the honor Jazz Inc holds but not doing reissues and version 2.

  • @tanderson2025
    @tanderson2025 Před měsícem +1

    Will the new batmobile have a tow connector for a future batboat trailer?

  • @thunderchild2237
    @thunderchild2237 Před měsícem

    A vote 🗳.
    Revisiting this is definitely going to be controversial due to the fact its still basically the same car ...just a season different.
    Starsky and Hutch had 3 different Torinos , but still basically the same car .
    It's not like Hot Toys making 3 different movie cars .
    These 66's from Sir Joost are not cheap and the collectors who put a lot of money into obtaining one surely don't wish to see basically the same car being re-released .
    Having said that.....I suggest Jazzinc organise a vote to ONLY the 66 owners and ask the question to them and abide by their collective decision.

  • @Rcflex1
    @Rcflex1 Před měsícem +2

    Missed out on the 1st one

  • @deadpoolredsuit4892
    @deadpoolredsuit4892 Před měsícem +1

    Great idea! 1966 (all seassions) car rates as my fav. Batmobile of them all. I missed out on the other JazzInc. release.

  • @aybear3954
    @aybear3954 Před měsícem

    Idk I was kind of expecting 66 bat computers or any cave related items next but this kind of puts me off. Like do i even want to keep my batcycle order if there happens to be another batcycle done? I know thats an extreme and unrealistic though but idk.

  • @KeatonCar89
    @KeatonCar89 Před měsícem +3

    I'd be interested in this and obviously with you doing the 1/6 figures...it makes more than sense to do...real fans Won't hold that against you.... The second Snyder car is basically a 2.0 anyway....

    • @JazzIncdioramas
      @JazzIncdioramas  Před měsícem +4

      Yeah, and that was a tough decision and an exception simply because Zack Snieder asked me to do something for charity.

    • @misaelsantaolalla7786
      @misaelsantaolalla7786 Před měsícem +1

      @@JazzIncdioramas I got the BvS car thanks to that Snyder run, so welcome all 2.0s. This one is more than justified and the fans are there

    • @autobattle23
      @autobattle23 Před měsícem

      @@JazzIncdioramassince we are going by this trend, then should be fine to get 2.0 versions of some Star Wars diorama right? Yeah Batman makes money but surely we can find a Star Wars diorama that a lot of people will like?

  • @robbyrobism
    @robbyrobism Před měsícem

    This will also help with the sales of the BatBike. Most folks will only buy it if they already own the 66.

    • @MrMusashiMusashi
      @MrMusashiMusashi Před měsícem

      My thinking exactly. I might actually hop on the Bat bike project now that I can get the 68.

  • @Rcflex1
    @Rcflex1 Před měsícem +2

    I’m in put me on the list

  • @jfk2167
    @jfk2167 Před měsícem +1

    I am actually going to buy one just to piss off the gate keeping, selfish, assholes crying that this completely different version will devalue the original. I own the original and you really have to be short a few brain cells to not understand just how different this is and that majority of people will prefer the original no matter what. really disappointed with people.

  • @robbyrobism
    @robbyrobism Před měsícem

    This will be no different than the Blitzway Ecto 1 or the Hot Toys DeLorean. So let's go and get done.

  • @JulioGomezNYC
    @JulioGomezNYC Před měsícem

    Shut up. .. It's a yes!

  • @FIRTSBORNUNICRON
    @FIRTSBORNUNICRON Před měsícem +1

    Make a Batman beyond Batmobile

  • @martinfulton4053
    @martinfulton4053 Před měsícem

    I'm not happy with you making another version of the Batmobile, it makes the original version less exclusive and less collectable. Would prefer for you to work on new products.

  • @lance7413
    @lance7413 Před měsícem +2

    Nope. I prefer the first season car. I wouldn't buy this.

    • @FlipFlab
      @FlipFlab Před měsícem

      And nobody asked you to lol

    • @figfate
      @figfate Před měsícem

      Yeah, I'm a fan of my OG 1966.

  • @garycole3073
    @garycole3073 Před měsícem

    add me to the list

  • @user-hx4br8to3q
    @user-hx4br8to3q Před měsícem +2

    Not sure it is different enough to justify a re-release.

  • @VoiceInTheDarkness
    @VoiceInTheDarkness Před měsícem +2

    As i see it, this would still essentially be a 2.0 release. I certainly understand the reasoning behind this, but I'm not so sure this is such a good idea. Season three, outside of the addition of Batgirl, wasn't particularly good or memorable. I love the Batmobile I have from you, which is much more the "hero car" than the season 3 version. It does seem to go against what was promised about no re-release, even with the proposed changes ... I would honelstly be disappointed if this were released.

    • @figfate
      @figfate Před měsícem

      I have to agree with you. Will be a bit disappointed since this "2.0" would inevitably affect the value of the original 1966.

    • @JazzIncdioramas
      @JazzIncdioramas  Před měsícem +1

      @figfate except it isn’t a 2.0 because it won’t have any upgrades. It’s the 1968 Batmobile.

  • @dextertheragdollcat213
    @dextertheragdollcat213 Před měsícem +1

    No thanks.

  • @alexkendell2992
    @alexkendell2992 Před měsícem +21

    In my opinion, this is a blatant cash grab that completely devalues customers who purchased the original ’66 Batmobile. This approach mirrors what Hot Toys began doing four years ago, leading to significant depreciation of their figures and necessitating a 50% reduction in production. If Joost decides to release this, I will no longer be a customer.

    • @Feeldaburns
      @Feeldaburns Před měsícem +21

      Oh boo hoo for you.😢

    • @pappyis1
      @pappyis1 Před měsícem +21

      You got your toy, why cry about someone else having the chance? I would just enjoy the awesome thing you have and go about your day.

    • @alexkendell2992
      @alexkendell2992 Před měsícem

      @@pappyis1 you can say what you want but business 101 is the moment you saturate the market with a product the demand for future products fall. And his clever wording about not doing reissues doesn’t fly with me. This is a reissue. Go back and check Hot Toys eBay prices before they reissued the mark 47.

    • @PedroLopez-cy1kl
      @PedroLopez-cy1kl Před měsícem +16

      Lol.. bye. Of course Joost wants to continue to make money while at the same time making Batman fans happy. Hot Toys figures have no value because (on average) they are cheaply made and degrade after 2 years. This hobby should be about having cool sh!t on our shelves, not about perceived value. I have my 66.. and Id be happy for all that want one to be able to get it.

    • @user-hx4br8to3q
      @user-hx4br8to3q Před měsícem +2

      Yes, It can completely shake faith in the perceived value and will stop many collectors from purchasing other future releases.

  • @adamstar7516
    @adamstar7516 Před měsícem +3

    Joost. Been a long supporter of your products from way back. Have bought many items. If you make another Batmobile 1966 I will seriously never buy another thing. It is a massive massive slap in our faces. Do not go back and remake stuff. People had literally YEARS to buy this. You advertised last orders many many times. Make something else. I’ve support you against people like Danoby and will nit be abject to any more. If people missed out that is just tough luck. Leave this alone please.

    • @keysta7584
      @keysta7584 Před měsícem +1

      “If people missed out that is just tough luck” selfish ass kid on the block comment.

    • @dextertheragdollcat213
      @dextertheragdollcat213 Před měsícem

      Couldn't agree more. Why not do something completely new? I own several Jazzinc vehicles but that's it for me if they're just going to reissue basically the same thing and no I'm not a scalper or reseller.

    • @1515cci
      @1515cci Před měsícem +3

      I have one and it's not a slap to my face. I'm happy for those who will have the opportunity to own a 1/6 scale 1966 Batmobile. I've encountered many Batman fans who had not the opportunity to acquire for various reasons only to have that later down the line but it was already too late; or who didn't even know that such a run even existed until much later. So yes, I'm all for this 3rd season Batmobile for those who could not and did not participate in the original run.

    • @FlipFlab
      @FlipFlab Před měsícem +1

      Cry. More.

    • @FlipFlab
      @FlipFlab Před měsícem +1

      @@1515ccithis is because you are a grown up with a grown up mentality.

  • @bw9412
    @bw9412 Před měsícem +1

    Make another 66 BM and you lose a great client!!

    • @FlipFlab
      @FlipFlab Před měsícem +1

      Good riddance! Lol

    • @BluTattu
      @BluTattu Před měsícem

      Bye Felicia! 👋🏻

  • @johncrowder7650
    @johncrowder7650 Před měsícem +1

    I think this will negatively impact the value and exclusivity of owning the original car. Your long-established practice of no re-issues is part of what justifies paying the high cost of purchasing one of your models. You said it yourself, it's a slap in the face to the original purchasers. If it is money you are chasing with this idea, and you go ahead and build it, not only does it need to be strikingly different than the original car, building it also in a smaller scale. That would at least help in differentiating it significantly from the original and help preserve the value of having purchased it from you. Of course, then you can't use some of your original molds and tooling. However, if you are going to go against your re-issue practice and impact the value of the original, it should cost you too.

    • @JazzIncdioramas
      @JazzIncdioramas  Před měsícem +3

      I am sorry, but there are a few things here I really do not agree with and are factually incorrect. First of all, we do not sell investment opportunities, but limited edition collectibles that will not be remade as they are. The price you pay is not for the investment opportunity, but that is the cost of making a vehicle of such limited edition. No other company can even viably make such limited editions, and that is thanks to our almost nonexistent overhead and low margins, so that determines the price, not the investment opportunity.
      Also, I will not be able to reuse any of the molds. There are two reasons for this, one being that, they were used up last time and cannot be used again, and secondly, no main part is the same, not the doors, not the rear half of the car, not the windows, not the dashboard, not the arch, not the wheels or the rims, and not evenmost of the front so this is already a vast difference. Much more than even the back to the future to DeLorean versus the first vehicle. Add to that a completely different painted job and it is as different as any of these vehicles can be.

    • @johncrowder7650
      @johncrowder7650 Před měsícem

      @@JazzIncdioramas I am not talking about having purchased it as an investment opportunity. I purchased mine because of the exclusivity of having it together with my other 1966 models. I will have it till I die, and my kids probably won't even care about it when I am gone. What you will do is turn owning a Jazzinc 1966 Batmobile into WHICH Jazzinc 1966 Batmobile do you own? Then the inevitable argument as to which issue is better or preferred or more collectible will ensue. At least do it in a different scale.

    • @BluTattu
      @BluTattu Před měsícem +1

      Awh too bad for you 😪. Joost has a business to run that you don't dictate. Plus the 68 Batmobile won't have all the bells and whistles y'all have for the 66. So calm down.

  • @autobattle23
    @autobattle23 Před měsícem +6

    Nice idea. But if you are going to do this, then might as well find a way to do a 2.0 of some favorite Star Wars items that newcomers missed like the Land speeder and Bespin dioramas. Not everyone forgave you for the Snyder mobile so might as well go all the way with other things. 🫣

    • @k2sworld
      @k2sworld Před měsícem +1

      2.0 suggests upgrades or changes. Just re-release the originals again. Make money. Forget exclusivity. Even Hot Toys rereleases figures. If they didn't, I would have missed out on the Dark Knight Rises Selena Kyle. Instead, I just got her in the rerelease.

    • @JB-np4lp
      @JB-np4lp Před měsícem +1

      Don’t know how to feel about this. My gut says it’s not a good idea.

    • @misaelsantaolalla7786
      @misaelsantaolalla7786 Před měsícem

      Star Wars fans dont buy as much as Batman fans, thats why he is even reconsidering making more Star Wars products, let alone 2.0s

    • @1515cci
      @1515cci Před měsícem +1

      I for one am glad Zack asked Joost to do a run of the BvS Batmobile since I missed out on the initial one.

    • @misaelsantaolalla7786
      @misaelsantaolalla7786 Před měsícem

      @@1515cci same, im getting mine tomorrow

  • @CharlesBerglund-k5x
    @CharlesBerglund-k5x Před měsícem +1

    why not do the 66 black beauty from the green hornet.remember its the boomer generation that has the deep pockets for this stuff.