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- The Arifs are a south-east London-based Turkish criminal organization heavily involved in armed robbery, drug trafficking and other racketeering-related activities within London's underworld since the late 1960s.
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Living in South London in the eighties and never hearing of the Arifs is like growing up in Bethnal green in the sixties and never hearing of the Krays
Difference in the Krays were and are REAL
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@@jade4r4IESHA-M the krays loved having their willy coated in poo
@@jade4r4IESHA-M krays were celebrities. Everyone knew they were scared of the Richardsons. Richardsons were on a different level but Charlie was smart so stayed away from any sort of war that was not needed but he knew if the krays slipped up once that’ll be it for them. Even the members of the Krays gang that are still alive say this.
@@jade4r4IESHA-M there were around 20 members of the Kray gang who had pistols arif had 7 brothers alone & had near to 60 members on the pay roll. Linked to 15 murders & were Earning 12 million a year & were getting sub machine guns from turkey. Talking about there not real is the stupidest thing I ever ever heard.
The Driscoll brothers ran the show with Terry mcann as the muscle 😂
😂😂😂
brilliant. you plonker lol.
What about Ronnie Pickering.
@@donnaspeer2760 yer along with Scotch Arry and Ugandan Morris 😂
Trigger and his broom was the muscle back then
The title of the video is misleading. Some of the video is about Arifs, and the rest is about 40 Thiefs. The on and off switch between two sories is annoyingly done.
just what i was thinking pile of dung im off lol
The whole thing is a mess!
Indeed , well said.
The Arifs were well-liked and very successful but nobody 'ran' South London. It was too wild.
I’m not from there, but I heard they had their own patch of south London around the Rotherhithe area which they had the run of. Plus a number of a business interests on the Old Kent Road.
You obviously had other gangs in South London such as the Brindles and Dailey’s, plus I assume some of the old guard from the 60s.
Spot on mate.
The Brindles were very handy as well but the Arifs were not to be messed with .....Im Deptford based and 60 yrs old so grew up when the Arifs and Brindles were on top of their game shall we say!!! @@Slim_45
@@Slim_45 I ran a pub in rotherhithe, got on quite well with the Arifs!!
Started by expressing interest in my fruit machines, the long time locals warned me to be careful, I got on fine with them, luckily!
@@thesteveo1975 Ah cool! Yes I read stories that Dogan Arif was the most outgoing and friendly of the bunch! But also read he walked into a pub in Rotherhithe in late 70s and pointed a sewn off at some punter (assume he owed him money) and shot him in the shoulder and calmly walked out! Witnesses were not forthcoming lol!
The dirty South 😂
Growing up I was always so interested in being a criminal until I ended up in some situations myself and then I realised its not fun at all this sort of Lifestyle comes with a heavy price I dont recommend it to anyone.
was the money good?
You had a good plan, until you got punch in the face!!😂😂
You live n you learn...or do you??
Wow this brought bk some memories
Was in jail with Dennis a decent human that didn't go round starting trouble but if you wanted some they'd respond...gentlemen.
Yes mate so true....I'm late 50s duggan was the duke
Also known as the tariffs for the amount of taxing they done.
When I use too deliver to chip shops in nth London ,the Turkish always said go to my brothers shop in leytonstone then he would say go to my cousin in Tottenham I think they was very big families, ever shop had fellas in the backroom,nice enough people just a bit way a bit whow 😮😊
Knew Dogan in early nineties. Dapper geezer who liked his jewellry. He ran the Fisher FC and he refurbed the soccer stadium in docklands and new grass pitch also. Just remembered...he took on Malcolm Allison as manager. He had a nice bakers next to my office in Walworth. He got nicked with a lorry load of hash on the M 1 and got an 8yr stretch. He moved to N.Cyprus after that.
Turkey,not Cyprus and he owns a big hotel casino
Fisher athletic...my uncle played for them and Millwall Dave memhet
13:20 Wong geography!!
Woodhatch is not in the centre of Reigate. It is a suburb with some shops about a mile south of the town.
I used to run Peckham in the late 90s.. well, I used to run my estate. When I say my estate, I mean my flat... Yep, proper naughty moody geezer I was.. 💪💪👊
The Krays were east London not north London
they are clue less
That's what I thought not North London East London
I think you’ll find Krays we’re very much North London- they had a club in Manor House.
They also used to congregate in Stoke Newington.
In fact a a child they used to meet on our street. In Stoke Newington and ice cream for every kid on the street
you obviously aint got a clue what you're talking about
@@datheat2854
they were from Bethnal Green which is obviously east London
@@datheat2854
Must have been a bit clammy in those Oyster knickers.
Could've done without the granny bandits.
serrrrrrrrrrriously!!
For anyone that's interested, there's a book called "Stop! Armed Police" by Stephen Smith. It contains a section about the Arifs and their illfated raid on the securicor van in 1990. Theres photos of the raid (taken by cops) so it's worth a rwad just for that.
Total setup by the cops from start to finish. Very reminiscent of the Woolwich raid in 1987 where Tony Ash was killed by the PT17 cops. Tonys body was left out for all to see - the message being put out by the state "if you're going to attempt armed robbery this is how you'll end up". Tonys brother stated as much.
Thanks il have a look for the book,cheers.
The show was great flying squad.
Tony's nephew John Ash ( RIP) was my best mate and the robbery he got killed on was absolutely nothing like the Arifs. I knew Ronnie Easter brook ( RIP) and your talking shit bruv
@@aaronsmith5056 you cant just say someone is "talking shit" and then leave it there. Might help your point if you go on to say why someone is talking shit.
It's reminiscent in the fact that they were both armed robberies, someone died and the police had them under surveillance.
One of my uncles was a prolific thief. It was part of the culture in impoverished communities. So the thieves back then were highly skilled; they had to be, just to compete. I was just a small child and I could never understand, until my teens, why - after dark - he was always out shopping. I think I finally know where the phrase came from.
The shootout happened at the petrol station in woodhatch reigate, remember when it happened, my friend Wayne was interviewed by itv news and was on TV that evening, the whole robbery happened right in front of him!
Turkish are kind people, see how they treats the cats and small birds.
Ariff means the wise or knowledgeable person.
What about the Armenian genocide ? And the treatment of Kurds ? Or the centuries of oppressive Ottoman rule in the Balkans ?
These bastards forced me at gunpoint to eat a donner kebab with extra salad. I wasn't even hungry.
That's evil mate. Thank God you survived! 😝😝😝
Still a better experience than eating English food willingly 😅
😂@@pugilism1921
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What absolute nonsense lies
Turkish people .......the windsors should be arrested
I lived in the late 90’s in south london/hackney I heard about them they were still working
They should never have done that job in Reigate..they didn't need the money but they loved the buzz of treading the pavement..bad move
How come their's no movie 🤔 yet
Yes, my uncle had a few run inns with them years ago 😊😊😊 Nice enough people, David Haye was friendly with them as they helped him early on in his career.
David Haye is from Bermondsey so it would be likely that he may have come across them!! 😄
Theres always that one useless comment just begging for likes isnt there.
@@uueyesh8909 ?
That’s why David Haye wore a Turkish Cypriot flag on his shorts.
Yes David haye has a Turkish Cypriot flag tattooed on his wrist and on his big toe 😮
I was 16 when Tony Thompsons book came out gangland Britain , book is legendary and that got me into true crime , I traveled from leeds to London just to check out the manner and see what they were all about , and yes crime dosnt pay but it’s interesting to see what makes people criminals rather than CEO’s of mager co-op
I used to cut their hair in a barbershop just around the corner from The Dun Cow .Shop was on corner on Dunton road all good people ,been to their restaurant with associates of the Arifs had great times.Although they would give me a bit of Stick as I came from Bethnal Green .Used to drink in Duncow sunday mornings watch Jimmy Jones & Jim Davidson who both knew the Arifs,must mention lots of The F troop (Millwall Supporters ) was in there too & frequented the Arifs restaurant .Had loads of great times over south of the water ...
Great memories mate.
I remember the barbers your talking about here and a few of my pals from the Dunton Bridge and Old Kent Rd areas popped in there now and then but I used to go snd see the Arifs in their Tom shop or catch them at their club a few doors along if I had a few things they were interested in lol.
Alot of us from down Millwall would frequent either their nightclub/winebar or go to the Henry Cooper, Duncow, Green Man or World Turned Upside Down to name a few late drinking spots on the OKR.
Im still in the area and my daughter is good friends with their grand daughter so Ive always known of them but had nothing but respect for the family ....cos they didnt fucc about if you upset them ha ha
@@michaeldunn7554 I’m 66 now was 19-23 at the time The good ole days 👌🏽
I`m the same age as you, and I grew up in Dunton Road, a stones throw from The Dun Cow.
Near George`s Bar across the road.
Do you remember Maud Peeny who sold the Evening Standard from her box outside The Dun Cow?
I remember a newsagents in Dunton Road, just before Marcia Road, and Banfield Coaches.
There was a greengrocers on the corner, I don`t remember a barbers though.
The feud between The Arifs and the Brindles was deadly.
Serious question how did the Argos get so big when back in the day I thought all the old school were racist as. Didn't think they'd allow that
@thechunkyone7118 Being racist ain't no guarantee of toughness.
There will always be people out there willing go further than the next nutter..
@@UBZUKki I just mean the old boys woud of been more established with old links and alliances. As immigrants or sons of immigrants they would of had to start from scratch
@thechunkyone7118 Most of the old boys were either dead, or in prison. That would leave a major void. New faces, immigrants or firms would fill that void and takeover...
As the Argos sells everything 😂 @@thechunkyone7118
Anyone remember the Connoisseur Club?
Yep lol
Every one from south east London remembers the Connoisseur.
The wreath at Shirley zpitts funeral said "gone shopping"
I knew her granddaughter plus I think there's a book about Shirley called the queen of thieves.
Me to from Hoxton, know her family @stewyb5574
I wouldnt even dispute that, everything came through bermondsey😂😂
They are still around now and it was the 90s aswell
You've posted this before just with a different title
Good to see the Kemps. I once had Gary in my black cab!
"in my black cab" = ✖️
"in me black cab" = ✔️
● If ur gonna be a cabbie...u need 2 speak proper...nah at mean 😉
● Oi, Oi - Sort it out 👍🏼 (Sweet as.)
What do you mean. HAD. MMMM
fake taxi?
Had his brother in my black cab. He's a prick. Lives in Fitzroy Square.
@@johnnymomo1 😂
I know them very well.
I been dealing with them for a long time .I like them .Nice people ,very professional.
As one infamous gangster said in Dublin you think we're bad wait till you see who comes next ,some how he was right 😮
clickbait from two actors using notorious names to present a story thats really nothing to do with the title.. lol
and singers both in the same group also still shite back then
You have obviously not heard of the Trotters,
I’ve heard of them and I live in north London
And who runs the organized crime in the north ?
If you was in a pub back then and any of the Arifs came in for a drink, it was a good night. However, if anyone from the Brindles came in for a drink, you left immediately and went to a different pub....
was they trouble makers the brindles then
@@johnratcliffe4344 They wasn't troublemakers, they were dangerous. A glancing look could set them off and you didn't get a slap, you got badly hurt. I knew one pub landlord who had to ask them not to frequent his pub any more because they empted it and he wasn't making any money. Luckily for him they never took offence and moved on to somewhere else.
@@terrabyte911 how many brothers is there 🤔 4.
@@terrabyte911 cheers 4 replying back.
@@johnratcliffe4344 I Don't know how many there were. It wasn't just them, it was the people around them. They were a very dangerous and feared firm.
Could this production have been any cheaper. Interviewing experts on street benches lmao 😂
I believe there was another notorious gang around at the time, the Olives!
These crime stories could never test the yardies
Yardies were brain dead. End up dead or skint
Hahahahahaha how many yardie millionaires are there ?
@@Rumpleforeskin77 im talking about the killings
@@spamspam7265 by any parameter the yardies are nothing but a few disorganised bottom of the chain crack dealers who occasionally did some sloppy shootings . The Arifs Hassans Brindles Daley's etc were far more organised and chalked up more murders . You any idea how many David Brindle killed ?
😂😂 could never test the yardies 😂😂 dudes in dreamland...in South London the oldskool White firms and the Ariffs etc are equal to anything yardies have ever done and whilst the Whites are multi millionaires like the Ariifs are the yardies still tread the pavement with £10 shots of crack in their mouths 😂😂
I’m sure Ronnie Pickering had them under manners 😂
Knew Duke in Whitemoor, good guy
My uncle worked with you and your brother on the Krays film said you are gentleman his name is Malcolm Weaver retired stuntman
Kind request Can you do one on baybasins
In 2015 I know a couple that would make 10.000$ each every week shopping. and they would only go out 2 times a week so 10.000$ if not more they would make.could fill 10 huge nike sports bags send it back to there city on grey hound buses they brought a house from shop lifting and never once got caught
Big money for that kind of crime. What kind of thing did they rob?
Mehmet a proper old skool very close to myself
Those Kemps are tougher without their make up on
My family member was one of the first person to open a bookies his name was Tom Thumb and it was in bagshot street.
Bagshot Street, where David Brindle ( RIP) was shot dead
No he was killed in east street
The Turks aint gone no where just look at all the Turkish barber fronts!
True i see about 10 in my city centre their not cutting hair
Ahh the Elephant boys. Founded by John Merrick
Over most people's heads 😂
How did the Arifs compare to the Longfella?
Who never heard of them ? Everyone knows that surname and no one messed with them but but by now must be getting on a bit but good luck to them xxx
Krays were east London @ valance , Bethnal Green road ares 🎉
The arifs were serious heavy duty everyone knows that
The same as the long fella, the blundles, the Adam’s family, only diff is the heroin connections the arifs had made them super wealthy!!
Shame on all
Blundells were the biggest... what guy shoots at 3 gang rivals and gets let of on a self defence... blundells are the biggest as nothing is said about them in media or on google searches.. while type every one else's name and the media has a brief up on them... what does that tell u.... nothings allowed to be said or written about the blundells.. free mason??
Yo their very nice people in their normal everyday family lives!!! But business wise they were not to be crossed at all!! I’ve heard this personally through close Jamaican and Turkish family friends that they were hardcore
@@Mashamillions nice people don’t sell smack
Islington boy left out gangs of Islington in this series,strange.
yeah, THE NASH FAMILY
I’ve heard this script so many times, but I got so many questions that none of you don’t wanna fucking answer lol
"The krays were in north London" no they weren't 🤔
I think he got east mixed up with north 😂
North of the river though.
If as mentioned moments before why would " millionaires " need to rob a cash van??
😂Very naughty people well respected threw London and all over England if u knew you knew enough said
From North London, not South London
I remember news agent it was first shop after Dun Cow then was Booze cash & carry then the hairdresser which was on the corner of Murcia Rd .I’m 66 I was 18-19 at the time 🕰️ so some time ago 🤷🏼♂️
I grew up in Bermondsey and had family all over South London. SE and SW London. The Arif name was well known if my memory is correct they were originally based in Stockwell. But tbh The Brindle family were considered the no 1 crime family.
Still?
the brindles still about
@@johnratcliffe4344 in your opinion which crime groups are the strongest in London nowdays and England in general?
@@RamoDjukathe Albanians. I'd say you don't hear off crime familys like you used to
@@RamoDjuka
You become the "strongest" by dealing in the biggest "earner"....drugs.
You can then employ,the maddest,hardest,
craziest m,fs around because you can afford to pay them more than the gang who does..."petty" crimes.
Find the gang dealing exclusively with major importations,there be the "strongest".
Just remember chili sauce salad.
I thought the Krays was East London.???
They was
Born in Hoxton, moved Bethnal green in the 40s mother did
They wouldn’t bother shoplifting in Oxford st today, unless they want shit from sports direct and candy stores/ money launderers
I know this much is true.
Flooded old Kent road with the brown back in the day .
Those where the good old days.
● U'd go 2 the Charlie Chaplin pub, just by the roundabout. For about £25, Danny behind the bar would put a little sa une under the serviette ur drink came with 😉
● U'd wake up 3 days later 😵💫 | 🤣🤣🤣
Now we have the romanian shoplifters
😂😂😂😂😂
3.35 secs Kemp giving Geography lessons. Yeh We know North & south London mate
I wonder how many shyster "human rights" lawyers thay had on the payroll to protect their "liberties".
Be the main character of your life.
I know this guy talking is it Ant or deck ,
Ilk defa duydum
Bu da yeni moda
I met duke and his two brothers dennis and the other one whos name i couldn't pronounce in Whitemoor nice fellas (1995 till 2003) they loved football dennis man united duke Arsenal 👍
I Remember them very well back in the day I met one of the brothers back in late 80s ,they had power alright !GATE13SW6CREW CFC
In all fairness they didn't run south London 💯FACTS
i grew up in south london in the 80s. never heard of them.
😐
Your a nobody then🤪
I grew up in Salford Manchester in the 80’s and we all heard of them.
@@DennisTheMenace-1999 same I grew up in hulme and heard of them
The Krays are from East London, not North London.
DOGAN was the BRAIN in the family
The guy in the picture is not in a Turkish gang. He looks like the guy from to catch a predator who got caught twice.
He was only going to McDonalds.
That was just his side hustle, his day job was Turkish kingpin.
It's Memet Arif
@davidjohn8795 Nah! More like Ozgur or Omar.
@@re7416 ozar
They were up against the Adam’s
Interestingly, 'arif' in Arabic means 'informed', a step closer to 'wise' as in 'wise guy'.
Thank me later.
muffs oyster knickers 🤔
not gangsters snowballs nothing like the old time gangsters
Who are you to say they weren’t Gangster? They were definitely Gangsters mate. Old school as they come.
The London major Sadiq Kharn is Londons biggest crook
Krays was not in the north of London lol
A lot of the facts are wrong in this program,I went to school with some of the Arif family in the fifties,and there were more then four brothers
There's 7 brothers mate
@@aaronsmith5056how many brothers in the brindle family?
I thought kept and Konan ran south?
Gangs of London, presented by Spandau Ballet🤔
The Kemp twins played The Krays in a 1990 film. Hence the loose connection
At 33:44 - Straw Boater not 'Bloater'! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And at 33:58 it's cajoling not 'canjoling'...
Jeez... 🙄
She needs to be learned how to talk proppa like what I dun 🤡
Terry tibbs ran the whole of london
Wooden ladder?
"Maserati 60 grand....talk to me"
Millwall turf
Ducky doooo Dancer is the boss of south london, hard as nails Ooooooh la la la😅
Ralf McTell runs London. Always ‘as, always will.
Whos that?
They are not from Southeast London, they are foreigners. Jeez, quit this BS.
They were Turkish Cypriots. Until 1960, that was a colony.
They supported the National Front pitch at the Walworth rd of East Lanes and had connects with the right wing Grey Wolves from Turkey, the identified as white European tho, so complicated.
We had football firms bigger than them all firms could rally 200 strong ready to fight not many gangs could di that
Nothing compared to Muslims who can pull a 1million person army all willing to die in the name of Islam as proven recently in London!
I'm a Chelsea headhunter but don't talk crap, we don't run about with shotguns and hand guns so stop talking out of your arse
You not seen how many they have at the London protests? They literally shut down London they stick together we don't!
@@aaronsmith5056😂👌👌
I wonder what they are doing now to earn millions??
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Well dogan arif owns 7 casinos and 40 bookies an the brothers help within these businesses in North cyprus
Own a hotel and casino in North
Cyprus ...very successful business men now....who says crime doesn't pay...