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The Spyderco Gauntlet Sharpening System: A Quick Shabazz Review
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2020
- Today, we'll take a look at a sharpening system which is quite straightforward, and great for simple sharpening tasks, but may not be the best choice for your hardened (eh? eh?) knife nerds: The Spyderco Gauntlet
I love most things Spyderco but the retail prices are starting to leave me behind.
Now if Spyderco made a Friendmaker I’d be set. 😞
I’ve owned my Sharpmaker about 25 years. Works fine and the storage is superior.
I love my Sharpmaker because I can bring it with me to family Thanksgiving and give the knives a tune up. Side benefit is I got everyone to stop using glass cutting boards because I told them I'm not wasting my time if they are just going to immediately ruin them again
My guess this is for quick kitchen sharpening for ppl moving quickly who might be more likely to cut themselves. Whether or not it helps, I don't know.
Only got my Sharpmaker recently, but it's an amazing little system. You get two angles instead of one, the storage is indeed superior, it has a slot to sharpen scissors and the triangular stones are VERY useful to sharpen things that don't work too well with the SM like axes or machetes.
@@jelaienfinue you can't go wrong with the sharpmaker....it's a great little piece of kit....you can get the cbn rods as well as diamond rods as well as their uf rods.
If you search there are several aftermarket suppliers of triangular rods that fit perfectly thus giving you a wider grit selection.
IMHO the sharpmaker is significantly better and more versatile than the gauntlet.
I bought the older TRI-ANGLE and that stores and sharpens just nicely.
The term you are looking for is ovoid.
Trust me i'm a professional geometrician.
I'm not really, but that is the correct terminology I believe haha.
Thanks to your comment, I am watching a whetstine review and learning English at the same time. Thank you from Korea.
-Asks you to sharpen their knives every holiday
-Puts their knives in the dishwasher
-Uses a glass cutting board
Nick, do you know my mom?
Who makes a fucking glaas cutting board
@@Spacecadet3890 A lot of people
I appreciate the simplicity of the gauntlet. Especially the ease of setup. The CBN stones plus the ceramic stones are all I will ever need. And 20 degrees is the perfect angle for my uses.
But the design could absolutely be improved to store all four stones securely. I would buy such a version in a heartbeat.
One thing I notice about the cubic boron nitride encrustation is that although it works like diamond it doesn't shed like diamond. It's not only less messy but doesn't scratch blade coatiings of any type. For rod cleaning, I use a Lansky eraser block instead of water and cleanser. It is far more convenient and less messy.
Lansky at 20.00 all the way. Slashing at the rods is not the way to go, you can go both up and down and keep contact and angle.
I'm glad you sold me on KME already.
I use magic eraser to remove the buildup on ceramic. Works well.
I've noticed a lot of sharpening systems look really cheap, made primarily of plastic and aren't very well designed. The Spyderco and Lanskey systems are two good examples. You're absolutely right about it needing better storage and angle options. I realize we are mostly paying for the sharpening stones, but for that price, they could put a little more effort into the rest of it.
I agree Ryan- corporate greed for sure
Maybe it's my go-playing phase from over a decade ago at work, but I'd refer to the cross-section of those sharpening stones as 'biconvex', similar to Japanese style go/igo stones. I'd worry about not being able to sharpen up to the plunge or choil with that shape though... on the plus side, these would be great for large, recurved blades... touching up sickles, billhooks and brush axes, for example. At least the kit includes CBN by default. This was not the case when I got my Sharpmaker almost thirty years ago.
Nick, nice video, question for anyone who’s had both this and the Sharpmaker, after a year or so which do you prefer? I do have a few recurve and even a couple of karambit blades, not to mention a few serrated blades as wet. Thanks!
Oval is both a noun and an adjective. “The oval is oval.”
Mmm. Stricty speaking it's a 'modifier' rather than an adjective.
Drink your Ovaltine.
@@michaelbedford8017 Adjectives are modifiers. Adverbs are modifiers.
That gauntlet part is a very good thing. I use a Lansky Turnbox which has no guard. I’d used it at least 100 times before I took a freshly honed kitchen pairing knife over the back of my thumb. Just once, but I’m still carrying the scar 6 months on!
After my grandfather (great knife and tool sharpener) died, I bought a sharpener like this for my mother. It was round fine and medium ceramic stones in a block of wood. The stones stowed in the wood block. She loved it. It was better than this. I do like the new stone shape though. Great review Nick.
The lansky croc sticks
Barkeepers Friend! Magic for cleaning pots and pans too.
You can round the tip of your knife if you keep zinging it off the stones like that. Leave that technique for Hollywood movies.
Learned the hard way🤦🏻♂️
You WILL round the tip of your knife ... Fixed it for you.
I love all the thought that went into this re-design, but it's not a replacement for the Sharpmaker and not as simple or useful in the kitchen as the old/now-re-released Galley V.
The ceramics are very good, and compared to premium whetstones they're more affordable, but Spyderco needs to get more competitive.
What do you expect from a company that's selling a dog-shaped knife with a 1.5" blade for $200?
I must admit i'm liking the shape of these new sharpening rods, looks like it'd be a good idea to get them alone too.
One of these days spyderco will nail it but not today
Only reason I want one of these is to sharpen recurve blades. The elliptical stones seem like they would be easier than trying to use the corner of a bench stone
It is very good for recurves!
I have a sharpmaker would you suggest cbn rods over the diamond?
An eraser also works great at cleaning the stones
The real question is why would I get this over the more versatile sharpmaker?? Also the sharpmaker has ultrafine rods that u can get too..
Meeeh, idk, sounds like it costs a lot for what you get. I got a lansky system on Amazon with a set of fine and medium ceramic rods for like $20; it stores a heck of a lot better too.
The extent of my knowledge is: bought a pocket knife 2 weeks ago and looked at like 5 videos about how to sharpen it.
Lansky is a good system
Ovoid. Swarf. I feel like a grammar nazi. The size comparison really gave me a good mental image, thanks tradition. Great review.
So essentially its a cheaper sharpmaker?
Actually more expensive... because reasons
@@mattg6834 well, base version is cheaper... but If they wanted to make a new $56 entry level, maybe they should have just sold a Sharp Maker with just white stones.
@Nick Shabazz - hey sorry to be off topic but did you take down your “pry bar” medford disassembly videos? They were super helpful but I can’t seem to find them
Thanks Nick. Going to have to pick one up soon. Looks nice and portable
One thing I like about my Gauntlet is that it is easier for me to keep from dragging the tip off the hone as compared to the Sharpmaker. I also like how the ovoid shape of the rod makes it easier to keep one small point of contact on the edge. With the Sharpmaker I sometimes feel when I use the flats, if I wobble the blade a little , then I "skip over" a section of the edge as I draw downward.
The ovoid shape makes it much easier to do the tip on curved blade knives without having to lfit the handles as you would on the standard Sharpmaker
Also makes it harder to sharpen the tip since there's no flat surface.
I really appreciate your honesty. Thx bro.
At the 3:10 mark, I think “swarf” is the term you are looking for.
I have a Spyderco Gauntlet Pro as you used in this video Nick. It is an easy system to use after only a little practice. I kept the original box to keep the system and rods in. This is a decent sharpening system when you don’t already have anything else.
I wonder what would be the best system for me, a newbie to the k knife community, I have about 30 knives mostly D2 blades some a little more premium s30v and a.20cv but what would you suggest be my first sharpener.
Abrasive on your ceramic rods? Are you sure about that?
My Triangle sharpmaker came with instructions that said Comet and greenie pad. Bought it at SMKW years ago. I use beekeepers friend and a washcloth. Haven't worn them out yet. Over 20 years old. If it can't handle a little cleanser, it can't handle super hard flippy trippy supersteel pocket jewelry. Frankly, this gauntlet thing is goofy. I'd use the stones by eye and hand.
Looks like a good way to sharpen serrated knives. Thanks for the video 😎👍
I have the gauntlet, its ok for what it is. Decent for touchups. I think if you just get the regular 50$+ standard package its fine and decent value great for the beginner looking to transition from your basic handheld "blade mechanic" type touch up pull thru sharpeners made by lasky and smith and the like. But as you state is exactly so: its very limited in what you can sharpen and how you can sharpen it. On that note, what was the name of that Spydie-stone that you whipped out somewhere towards the mid-end of the video? I believe that would be another great option to add to the mix. The gauntlet is indeed a weird beast its like in one sense its mot realky worth paying what damn near double for the "premium" version which is essentially just the two other rods, however that said, once you have the standard package its almost not worth NOT getting the additional rods if that makes sense, forgive the DUBnegative there but you get the point. Basically i suppose that it feels more justified, or "worth-it" to purchase the CBN rods later on (when you realize that you kind of need them to really justify labeling the gauntlet as a "Complete knife sharpening system!") Plus the initial pocket burn of spending 50+$ plus shipping to get the base model has worn off. Other than that, had i known then what i know now although i remember specifically being tight on money then, now rather than just buy the base gauntlet i think i would just wait a week till i could afford the tri sharpener the og one that tjey been making before knives... Oh well live and let learn..
Honestly, buy a strop. $30 on Amazon gets you a wood backed strop and compound. Much better than any ceramic stone. Especially since most knives are "budget" steels. If you have actually regrind a knife, this is a way to go, but if you stropped it after the results are unbeatable.
If youre cheap you can get a piece of leather and medium and fine compound for like 12 and if you keep yo shit stropped it will stay sharp as fuck.
it looks like an ok system but how long with that base last? Seems like it might give out in a couple years....hard to tell by looking at it in a youtube video.
So Question of the day: name the top five knives that you think your grand kids will want from your collection?
Mine three year old granddaughter made a few picks from mine....She wants my grandfather's old buck 112, Santa Fe Stoneworks 3inch mammoth tooth Damascus 3 inch blade, my wife's grandfather's Japanese bamboo folder, mini Pakistani clone 3inch blade( had to use in my navy days since we had this 3 inch blade rule for shipboard use) and my Spyderco PM. I am sure her picks will change as she gets older
Do you ever mutter vengefully while sharpening knives?
Nah, I don't generally wish people dead, I prefer them to be quite happy, someplace where I never see or hear about them again.
@@NickShabazz
Sorry Nick, I hope you didn't take this seriously. I was simply trying to be playfully humerous in a cartoonish sort of way; though in this day and age it's perhaps better to be more circumspect about how things might read.
Terrific review ! Getting one ! Thanks !
WE130 is perfect for me.
And the only system that can easily tackle asymmetrical grinds without driving you crazy and wasted time.
Should have a tensioner to reduce the stone movement
How do you sharpen a recurve blade with this sytem?
I was hoping you were going to pull out the Z hunter.
The lansky turn box are 19 bucks .. Selfless well gives ya few more angles
Hello N.S., to clean my tri-angle it states: Clean w/dish soap and water! I've done that, it works😱. I WOULDN'T use anything abrasive to clean those rods! 🤯 Why would you say that?🤔 Have fun and be safe. Take care, "God Bless", sincerely, Randy. 👍👍😇👊
I like Wicked Edge System, but is tooo expensive, so I use old Lansky Deluxe ... :) some modified :)
Can you do a review on Civivi Wyvern?
is the sharp maker discontinued?
I know it would break tradition, but showing it next to the sharpmaker would probably be a better size comparison than the delica. Assuming you still have the sharpmaker of course.
I do not, alas.
I guess I just assume you have all the things, despite the fact you have said if it doesn't get used it moves on.
Respect for keeping the inventory down to stuff you regularly use. I tend to pack rat more than I should.
This thing costs $30 more than the basic version of the Edge Pro while having like 10% of its capabilities.
You'll get watch people into knives yet Nick - luckily in Ireland we can't own any of these fine pieces of equipment ha!
"For your knife shi...I mean safety" lol
OK, you sold me this thing:)
Nick, love your videos. Just want to say that over here in ‘Lightning Ridge’ I get extreme satisfaction from watching your videos and when there is nothing else to look at, I just go back and watch the ones that’s already dropped. Just want to ask, can I use loctite 248 medium strength threadlocker for knife screws? Thanks for all the videos 😄✌️
Should be ok, just be careful that you don’t overapply and have heat ready in case
Great review 👌👍
Honest and to the point as always, you're the man Nick
I just bought the edge pro apex kit 4 with about an additional 200$ worth of accessories for it it lut a damn fine mirror edge by far the best system I ever used i wonder how this compares? I guess its not fair to compare a 150$ system to the 400$ i have in the edge pro but still wondering
Sorry Spyderco, this device is overpriced, I still love your products and I still have my Sharpmaker from 9 years ago, it was only 48 dollars back then. Doing the Work Sharp manual guided system these days, same 50 dollars as the gauntlet and better for reprofiling edges with newer high wear steels, diamonds are a mans best friend..🤣.. Love you Nick, stay safe fellow knife nuts..☺
Agreed 100%. The worksharp angle set system is significantly more versatile at significantly less cost right out of the box. More angles to choose from and comes standard with diamond rods.
does this only sharpen at 20 degrees? If so, yikes, what a price tag!
I personally like the Lansky turnbox more. Same principle, but is smaller in size and has both 20 and 25 degree holes in it. Basically a wooden box/block with storage for rods inside. Smith's had a similar concept but had a flat diamond file and a carbide wedge for quick sharpening. Only problem with lansky is, that the rods are round, where the Smith's one had teardrop shaped rods. I personally like the aesthetics and size of the Lansky one, but functionally the Smith's one had a lot more features on it.
I agree the Sharpmaker is way more versatile for not much more money. Besides the optional diamond rods it also, as you pointed in your original SM review, allows you to place them flat for objects that don't fit the one angle (or in Sharpmaker's case two angles). Glad I went with your Sharpmaker suggestion!
I bought a sharp maker the other day, I used to use stones but I'd always end up with wonky grinds, all I have to say about the sharp maker is silly sharp for, silly people. 😂 Maybe not the best combo but damn is it just great 👍
But can it sharpen a Z-Hunter?
Z-Hunters never need sharpening :)
$115 ? $100 must be in marketing, Lol
I was given a mtech similar to yours. It honestly came with a nice razor sharp grind! But oh it’s ugly
A topologist would abstract from the exact shape. Topology is about viewing continuous transformations as a noop.
Never seen this one before. I like the tri edge sharpener so I'll definitely have to try it. 🍻
CBN is also good for higher carbide steels - from what I've read. No personal experience with it.
The shape of those stones is fantastic.
Alpinist ftw.
I try and resharpen most, but not all, at 15 degrees. This would not make that an easy thing to do.
Words are hard
Guys, I sorry... truly. I feel like I've let you down. I'm sorry but I've got to admit it...
...The Z-Hunter knives are pretty cool. I haven't bought one (yet) but they're cheap and look cool. Now you may say, "Shuddup, ya freakin moron" but I consider myself somewhat of a knife nut... just to poor... Of course, they be beaters but still.
Please convince me otherwise as I am on the fence...
Sorry and thank you in advance.
They might look cool, but they aren't well built, and the steel is typically too bad to keep an edge. Get a Civivi or maybe a Ganzo.
I’ve never quite understood this one, myself. The Sharpmaker is perfect for me
Sharp for two slices
what the hell is that?
Why not just get some chosera stones
Lansky system is better n cheaper.
Ellipse. lol
So where is promised Swayback disassembly and first impressions?
My Swayback just arrived the other day. :)
Nick Shabazz, as a proud citizen of Poland, I am just super eager to hear your opinion :)
So where is it Nick? Where is it? :)
Until I saw the Spiderco Delica I thought it was the size of the Nimitz 👍
This seems like a downgrade over the sharpmaker
4:22 knife shit :)))
The sharp maker is so much better
Metrologist
0:56 ohh the edge hits the ceramic. Hurts.
He uses his cheapest knife for demo lol
Why has your accent changes so much?
I am now a Morphologist heretofore. Dr. Jump Keys MiPhd. I may be grumpy and get miphd every now and then, but a morphologist I shall be. Let it be known this twenty ninth day of June in the year of twenty in the twenty first century. Shapes I can describe. Of course that shape that the King of Shabazz stumbled over can not be described on this channel, due to community violations.
"if you are not a brilliant man"... I might be that guy actually.
Geometor. 😂
This guy is very overpriced, just like the sharpmaker. I like the sharpmaker, but I got it a few years ago for like half the price as they're charging these days.
At least the sharpmaker was portable. The safety thing is way overdone. I don't understand how it would even be possible to completely miss the rod and slice your hand. This isn't a speed tool. You have to concentrate somewhat.
People who like having the name Syderco on their knives will like it.
Ew no