This cable is a revolution for instrument sampling (demo included) | GAS Therapy #61
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- This cable is called Bidirectional Recording cable, the best music gear invented in recent 20 years, imo.
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FYI: Line level is 1 volt and mic level is 0.001 volts, that little piece in the middle is a resistor to reduce the signal voltage.
Funnily enough, a lot like that volume limiter cable plugged in the other end of the splitter! But of course, you'd prefer a fixed value for this rather than a potentiometer.
I recently searched for a similar cable and eventually ended up cutting up and splicing multiple cables together. Thank you for demonstrating this cable with a splitter and volume added. Great work!
I kind of love the irony of GAS therapy leading to a sold out device. Thank you for your videos and inspiration!
Trrs aux cables aren't only manufactured by one company. They're a standard cable. Just not the aux cable most people have on hand
@@nullbytyeah but i’m pretty sure this cable is needed specifically to interface the devices together, or at least that was the point that came across in the video
@@dxzzydxm5518 it's literally just a trrs aux cable.
@@nullbyt he was specifically saying that trs cables didn’t work for this and this one only works because that square in the middle of the wire is a converter, so no it’s not just a trs cable. trs cables have been around forever i don’t think he would have said he’s been waiting 20 years for something that already existed 💀 you’re so certain you’re correct you ignored everything he said in the video
@@dxzzydxm5518 trs is not the same as trrs.
You have no idea what you're talking about
The cable to my gaming headset works like this. I would have never known.
Thank you for this. This is awesome, I bought it some time ago because of watching your channel.
I can use this cable for many cool things.
Good explanation, cheers Michael
Thanks for the follow up Gas Therapy!
Super clear and genius!!!
Damn Mike! That's beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing. We need more stuff like this!
By chance, have you ever experimented with microphones that could work in aux like this for vocals and the like? Some kind of solution to avoid breaking bank as a entry level phone recording vocalist would be gold!
Mic is easy, a normal headphone/mic splitter will give you the mic port, then you can use lavalier or directional ones to get better quality.
It's funny how consumerism shapes subjectivization. I resisted the urge to buy a cooler and more expensive phone in order to keep the mic in and headphone out port. With Koalasampler and a minilab 3 (or any kind of low power usb keyboard) I have a decent music tool to carry around. It seems that consumers aren't thinking about this and the manufacturers are in turn copying the unreflexive thinking of consumers. Or maybe it's the other way around? I'll keep buying cheap and underspecd aux jack phones until they become second-hand relics.
I’ve rolled into a synth shop with a couple little pocket sampler devices and a phone with koala and walked out with apparently thousands of dollars in sounds.
Ive got a korg electribe 2 sampler but find it easier using aux cable thro my rc 505 looper and sampling words or rec riffs
I feel you but there’s a market for everyone. & unfortunately about 75% of that everyone don’t think for themselves
@@1LoDeezydotcom le snooty ebin comment xdd
thanks for showing this! I was originally using an overpriced Belkin USB-C splitter and a bunch of adapters to get around this, but this is even better
That's so dope❤❤
1 resistor 10k , 1 cap around 10nF, and trrs. Easy to made if you are into soldering. It’s not aux in, it’s mic in. Mic and linear signals have different levels.
Hello ! How would you solder it ? Thanks !
Great Video! Ive been using a ttrs splitter for years that come with a lot of gaming headphones.
I play bass guitar and I use a Line 6 multi-effects unit to record loops which i then use to make all sorts of rhythmic effects. The issue is that it only stores 1 loop at a time and has no permanent memory. This cable with Koala Sampler (which i also bought off your recommendation) might just be my solution!
Really nice 👍 ❤
I wonder if this would solve the audio connection issues on the Roland E4 Voice Tweaker. Specifically creating a wet/dry balance.
Nice. I just found out a cable that came with my Roland Go Mixer Pro X does the same thing.
Damn, Roland IS good at making money 🤯
Yeah. I want one.
Not available via the link you added, can you find same cable elsewhere?
anyone find an available replacment for this cable that is no longer in stock on amazon?
Found this on eBay…….. Bidirectional Recording Cable Dual 3.5mm Gold-Plated Plug Nylon Braided Thread …… not sure how to put more info and picture, but just put title in search eBay, and hopefully it’ll pop up…. Just ordered it myself
I found one in AliExpress. Don't know if quality are good as the Amazon one (same brand).
Right! I should also check it there!
Damn there's IP block, they won't allow me to even search, can you share the link with me? Thanks in advance!
I’ve been having an issue, maybe this cable is my solution.
I bought the camera adapter for iPhone so I could control koala with my midi keyboard. I can plug headphones into the aux port of the adapter and hear everything I’m doing in the app just fine, but when I run a trs cable from the same aux port out to amplify the sound, I get nothing.
I’ll buy this cable anyways since it’s only $5 and give it a shot, but if anyone reading this has experience with this issue please respond! Reddit has been unhelpful 😂
if you have a macbook and an iphone. you can do a similar thing too. under Audio Midi Setup
Is there a way I can connect my iPhone to my MacBook to use the iPhone as a drum pad?
Just a quick question, can you use the mic-headphone splitter (like the first one you showed in this video) plugged into the phone to monitor, using the bidirectional cable plugged from the synth into the the mic port of the splitter? I imagine it would work.
I tried it again, it won't work 🥹
@@playpm I see, thank you for testing it out. I had a mic-headphone splitter already and am still waiting the bidirectional cable and was going to use them together, but it seems I'll need to get an audio splitter to monitor.
The Rode SC6 allows this to work (in combination with the bidi rec cable), atleast in my case on an ipad. I can hear the regular headphone output, while being able to record in koala etc.
How is the cable wired? Is it straight through trrs to trrs or does that middle module add something?
The part in the middle attenuates the signal. That's the special part of this cable that some people are not understanding.
You cannot plug a line out signal (from a synth for example) into a mic level input for a phone. This cable converts the line level signal to mic level so that you can.
The monitoring option you show only allows you to monitor the instrument or source that you’re using, not the phone’s audio. I’m not really sure why you need the bi directional cable for that situation?
If I'm recording into Koala sampler via my iPad headphone jack - how do I get audio out either via the iPad speaker or a set of USB headphones via lightning adapter?
Sadly you can't, this method is focused on sampling only, the monitoring is also focused on audio source.
Have the same behringer jt4000, bidirectional cable. The only difference is I have type c. When I plug it in directly to phone it works (records). When I introduce audio splitter so I can have headphones i can hear audio but it's not recording. 😕
Tried two audio splitters and tried reversing (i also have type c audio splitter). Nothing seem to help. Is there something I need to do?
Great video btw, this was something loooong overdue in mobile recording. 😊
Make sure the splitter goes into your instrument, not your smartphone, and it should be a 1 headphone to 2 headphone splitter, not trrs to mic+headphone.
@@playpm Yeah, it does go into into the JT4000. gonna find an old phone with 3.5 jack to test it but as i said, when i don't use splitter it works fine, i just don't hear what i'm playing. 🙃
You are literally showing me magic right now!
I tried to search for something like this, but only came up with complicated fixes.
I wish this was in stock tbh!
What is the app you're using, also?
Try ebay and AliExpress, heard people found it there. The app is Koala Sampler, my mobile sp404.
Sadly, so many modern c phones do not have the port anymore. At this point, audio usb c audio devices are so cheap, hardly a thought to go that route. I picked on up for the iPad for like $20.00 and it works perfect. I do love the simple cable though. I'll have to find one to try out for my older c phone. It's collecting dust.
I phones dont have jack cables.
Sorry if this is an obvious answer kinda question, but will this still work if I use an iPhone lightning to 3.5mm and stick the cable in there? [I have a 6s and an IPad Air]Also how would u go about recording guitars? Would u need an adapter???
Yes, as long as you use an adapter to turn type c or lightning into 3.5mm headphone jack, this cable will work. It's just a hack into the traditional 3.5mm trrs port.
Does it work with 1/4” TS male Jack to 1/8” female TS Jack? I want to connect a synth/guitar and they have 1/4” Jack
I tried use 6.5mm to 3.5mm convertor on my Zoom G4n, then use this cable, it worked pretty well.
@@playpm great! Thank you. BTW I love your channel (even if I do also own one or two bits of kit that you can get for free).
Thanks for the information. Which phone was that?
It's Redmi 13C, suuuper low end, but now my daily driver.
@@playpm Thank you :)
Yeah, I figured a splitter.
this cable seems to be back in AliX.
I sample with a Xoon, recorder.
This cable has existed for decades
This this this 👆
It's some standard stuff
Recently I searched for something just like this and never found anything. I’m curious to know where y’all found them.
@@MadScientistGuitarLab look up trrs 3.5 mm
@@MadScientistGuitarLab look up trrs 3.5mm
This is obvious, and the coolest part is that is so simple that many people ignores it.
"Every phone has a headphone jack"... looking at my Pixel 6a 🤨
Well since it’s sold out I suppose I need to diy one using old cables for free
No you're wrong not every phone and tablet with USB-C has a DAC inside to send analog audio along with digital audio over USB connector. Some of them like Galaxy Tab Pro tablets need an external DAC if one needs analog audio out.
"Every smart device as an aux jack" ummmm... Samsung, you got some 'splaining to do.
I could have really used this guide like 10 years ago when i was learning how to do all this stuff. very helpful for those jumping in
It will be great to see how you can use a guitar with a koala sampler on your smartphone.
Will do, both acoustic and electric ones, stay tuned.
Rode AI Micro accepts stereo line-in via 3.5 jack, monitor via 3.5 jack, and plugs to smartphone or laptop via USB-C.
Put everything else in the trash.
This is too expensive. Just make your own with salvaged parts for FREE! 😂😂😂 just kidding. Love this!
I have like 10 of those cables they come with headphones like beats
Trrs
Or you might have an iphone… in which case - nah.
i dont get it. its a male to male headphone cable?
Nearly no phone has a headphone jack nowadays
You just need a USB-C to TRRS adapter
An adapter will solve this easily.
Or just refuse to buy a device without a headphone jack. I can't believe so many companies continue to sell so-called 'pro' and 'ultra' devices without an in-built option to listen to audio without latency.
@@alexwrI refuse to buy jackless phones
@@dwseli held out as long as I could but the only phones that still have them TODAY are low to mid range dreck
And even though I already have another recording solution, will deffinetly snag that cable up if I see one lying in a store. I love me a good simple versitile aux cable.
I managed to the same with an external soundcard, wich is like a little usb-stick with a headphone- and microphone -jack in it.
Can plug that into my phone through a usb-C adapter, or straight into my computer.
And if on the computer, I can monitor the sound, before and during recording using audacity.
Some recording apps on the phone let me monitor the sound while recording, but that came with quite a bit of delay.