Odds & Ends 132: Florida Flywheelers, Folklife Festival, New Tools for the Shop!
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- Odds & Ends 132: Florida Flywheelers, Folklife Festival, New Tools for the Shop!
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Thanks for the shout out :-) Im glade I could add to the web sight I use it every week.
Thanks for sharing the finds at the Florida Flywheelers . Enjoyed seeing you at the greet & meet
I manage the lineshaft machine shop museum at Tuckahoe Steam and Gas Association in Easton, Maryland and have had the pleasure of hosting the young men. They are quite amazing and knowledgeable about old macinery. I hope to see them at our Big Show in July 7 through 10th
6:20 I'd suggest the lapping plates aren't for three different grits but so you can lap the three together to ensure they're all flat.
Yeah I was gonna comment, with three of them you can get them all in tune Whitworth style.
@@encorespod2135 I third the motion
@@kc5gym I fourth it . Dudley toolwright just made a set awhile back. He talked about lapping each one of the three to get them flat.
It was nice to meet you at the Flywheeler’s show I hope to see you again at the museum in April.
That box for the lapping plates looks like a good candidate for a little woodworking restoration!
At least get that awful dried-out duct tape off it!
Hi, Keith. I sure enjoyed meeting you at Flywheeler Park last Saturday and having a chance to chat for a moment. I always enjoy watching your channel.
HIGHBALL, A Book of Trains is one of Lucius Beebe's earlier works, and a good one. Beebe was a chronicler of society, social mores, and gourmet food. And trains. I have most of a shelf in my books on railroad subjects full of nothing but Beebe (and his partner, Charles Clegg - and even better photographer than Beebe, who was no slouch). That was a nice find. At one time, Beebe & Clegg were the last individual owner/operators of a private railroad car in the USA, first the GOLD COAST and then the VIRGINIA CITY.
That tool is called a Kerf Gauge,it’s used for checking clearance and tip to body distance on carbide tipped sawblades.
A pleasure to watch 🙃
As always thank you
Thanks for the video🤗😎🤗😎
Hey, looking at your money reminds me of a story. Retired circuit Judge who is on the board of our local civil war museum was telling how someone donated a thousand dollar bill, thought it was fake but something neat to put on display. Old judge recognized it as genuine, had it appraised, worried about it being stolen out of display. Sold it and put proceeds into the treasury for expenses of upkeep of museum. Stuff like this out there.
Never saw a steam engine demonstrator like that- Really Neat! Bull of the Woods was all new too, I immediately found some on the web- really funny in a weird way. Thank You.
Thanks for sharing!
There are actually 6 volumes of the "Bull of the Woods" comics. I have all 6 and they are great fun and a very interesting window into an era when blue-collar labor was going through incredible changes.
thank you Keith
Good job Dale!
Wow. Thank you to everyone involved in saving that old literature.
Missed that show by approx 2-ish weeks. Bummer as I would of loved to look at all items from the show.
I’m really happy to hear about those young twins I’m worried this trade is gonna vanish in the near future
Hear! Hear!
There were three - Walscheit was the most popular, Stevenson proved to difficult to maintain because it was inside. Steam came in on the end ports and went out in the center to the venturi for the exhaust.
Nice low frequency chimes. I have a set for the last 25 or so years. Nice in a wind.
Its really good to hear that there are still youngsters out there interested in these types of things that is how i got into these types of things... my grandfather... being around him growing up.... if i was not in school i was hanging out with him and always doing these things on our small farm...omg i so miss him so so much... he was my hero.... and he never let me down... well to those young men guys the world is there for yall go work hard and get it.... its all for yall taking....use those brians and go get it boys...
Keith, I noticed your external microphone is a two wire arrangement, but the plug you have is a three wire plug (for stereo). I might work, but you might need to get a mono version of that plug.
I too notice this, it should still work though if he makes sure to bridge the ring and sleeve terminals, it will essentially do that anyway.
Yes,that is a Stephanson Reversing Gear and no, most locomotives did not use this gear. First of all locos did not use eccentrics but used a small crank arm fixed to the end of the driver axal. Most were WALSCHAERT valve gear
I had drafting in vokie in the 1970s plus night school as part of my apprenticeship .
It is always good to know manual drafting on paper. When I would take ideas to my machinist on paper it helped him that I could give him all the details he needed to build my part. I took two years of mechanical drawing back in the early 1970s. Never studied CAD.
I also had 2 years of mechanical drawing in 69 and 70. Was a huge help in getting a mechanical engineering degree. Then in 90 decided electrical engineering was what I wanted to do. Early drafting gave me the basics to learn CAD.
Thanks Keith. Some interesting stuff in this one.
7:51 My 6th-grade school teacher had a steam engine model very similar to that HIGH on a shelf, the crankpin actually had a small handle on it to crank it. I'd occasionally grab a chair, stand on it and sneak in a bit of play spinning it.
The two sided indicator is used to measure the set of a saw blade.
I have the exact same one I inherited from my dad, except it was branded Foley Belsaw which is a dead giveaway it was used for saw teeth. He also had a similar one that I've misplace that had paperwork for measuring surface roughness for cylinder blocks as I recall.
The double sided dial indicator is what I used to use to measure cylinder liner and piston protrusion on diesel engines with wet sleeve liners. Essential for ensuring that the cylinder head gasket crush is correct. It is sometimes necessary to shim liners to achieve the correct protrusion and if the block has been skimmed and the liner spigots re cut checking liner protrusion is mandatory. I also used it for checking piston height and matching pistons to rods to achieve the best combination of manufacturing tolerances.
11:50 Timing looks pretty much right to me on that illustrative model of a steam engine with reversing gear.
The reversing action will be a lot clearer if reversed when the piston's mid travel.
Books on drafting got me interested in drafting, which led me to CAD eventually. The background helped!!
Thanks Mr. Dale Derry for sending the books. We sure miss your videos! When are we going to see some more of your awesome videos?
That set of 3 square plates suggests a demonstration of the 3 plate method of generating surface (in the case lapping) plates. If they're at all close, that is.
Fun stuff! Thanks. About the mike, I don't remember the level being as variable in the past as I've noticed lately. The last couple of videos, I've noticed how much the level falls off, and the high end goes away, whenever you turn your head back to the left, e.g. when you were standing at the planer explaining things and would occasionally turn back to point toward the rear of the machine. And it was actually kind of odd not to hear much when you plopped some parts down on the grid of the bead blaster; almost unnatural! I would have been okay with a big bang, there. It's preferences; the directional mike has pros and cons. Still... your audio is way better than many, if not most, other CZcamsr's, so this is picking nits, but... sound is my thing, so I guess they're among my favorite nits! :)
Those sorts of body-worn mikes rarely work well for constant level during head movement, except maybe in a atatic "TV studio facing camera" situation. Apart from boom mikes, the only common ones that can minimise annoying level changes, are the headset and earset versions that keep the mike a constant distance from the mouth. Alternatively a mild degree of audio compression can be applied in the edit, if the variation is not too great.
Thanks, Keith.
You have 3 of them, you can use the three plate method to lap them perfectly flat.
Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.👍👀
19:50 it looks like an adjusting tool for wood planer blades.
Kieth, I dont notice backround noise, but I do notice your voice level dropping out when you turn your head away. Even while you were talking about your mic.
Great info and video Keith, keep'um coming..
I had that exact model. My dad brought it home from his classroom after the school told him to toss it. Still have it somewhere
Very smart idea with the custom short-cabled lav mic - if you can't buy something that fits, you gotta make it yourself :-)
way to go dale!
I looked up turpentine on Wikipedia. Someone put a picture of some in a jar. It is listed as being made at the Georgia Museum of Agriculture.
In re: Your steam engine model. There is an episode on the Battleship USS Texas channel that highlights the engine room and the controls and instrumentation for the steam engines that drove the ship. It does show the reversing gear and the narrator gives a brief description of how it works.
If you don't already have a Czur scanner, I recommend it for the kind of thing you ingest. Vast improvement.
GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO...
Speaking of your mic, the one that you modified, the one that you are using now is very directional. When you wear it on the bib of your overalls and turn your head left the mic is very loud, when you turn your head right the volume goes way down, almost where you cannot hear it. Your modification did make it very directional but personally, I had rather hear the noise than to hear the volume go up and down and sometimes miss what you said. It might be possible to find a different place to mount the mic where it is the same distance from the mic no matter which way you turn your head but that might be impossible. Just wanted to let you know how the mic was preforming.
I think that model is really neat! It something I would like to have also.
Thanks Kieth for yet another excellent video.
I also have one of those double sided dial gauges. It was my Dad's. He was a sawdoctor in a large sawmill, and used it to measure the "set" of the teeth on hand sharpened circular saw blades. Since it passed to me, I have also used it to measure the protrusion of cylinder liners in diesel engines. It's a lovely piece of mechanical exactitude.
How is the stoker engine project going?
Keith, we used a lot of these at work, in fact, we used 2 whole boxes of these per week day, and we had to cut them in quarters, but a hack saw wouldn't do it justice, so we got a bow saw and used a portaband saw blade and made it fit the saw. It worked quite well for us. Just some FYI. Maybe a viewer needs to do something similar.
My mind must be slipping. I just can’t recall anything that Keith mentioned that a viewer would “use two whole boxes a work day and cut up in quarters with three different saw blades.” What is it? I’m dying to know. By the way I’m a new patron and was happy to donate the three books that Keith discussed.
One thing that you can do with three identical flats is FLATTEN them. By rubbing all six combinations (with a slurry of abrasive) of A, B, or C on the bottom and B or C, A or C, and A or B on the top, you can create three very flat pieces. Optical glass can be flattened to within fractions of a wavelength of light by this 3-piece method. Tom Lipton did some videos on this method of flattening (although Tom and I differ on some of the details). Having three identical flats, a person could keep them flat without having a surface grinder (and without the magnetic chuck problems of warping and unwarping).
I would like to see a demonstration of flattening by the three plate method. I’ve heard and read about it but never seen it done.
@@ellieprice363 - here's a guy about to grind a set of three optical flats (in glass). Multi part series. I set the link to start when he begins the actual process (a long, rambling intro is skipped). I haven't watched all of this particular video, but he seems to be starting out well. czcams.com/video/Ac2lLvgPYx4/video.html
You can Google for [ grinding optical flats ] for more videos.
Here is Tom Lipton's video on the subject. czcams.com/video/rHmsQEAx16o/video.html
As noted above, I do differ with Tom as to certain aspects of how this is done.
Thanks for sharing this. I’ll watch both videos tomorrow and add them to my learning experience. We never get too old to learn something new.
Hiya Keith
Drafting is now an art form rather then just a need job. Fits well with manual lathes .
21:54 No offence to Mary Ann and Ginger intended, but the wind guard or wind screen is sometimes referred to as a "dead cat" in broadcasting circles, usually for the larger ones.
Hello from Siesta Key Florida
Isn’t that the largest beach in the U.S. or is it the world? I was there a year ago, visiting friends from Sarasota, and we stopped by to check it out, it’s huge!
Like no. 1, Muantabe top markotop from Jakarta Indonesia 👍.
It occurs to me you could arrange for the demonstrator motion to double as a pencil sharpener, with slight modifications and additions.
Most gasoline engines are four stroke. This means the piston moves up or down a total of four times for one power stroke. (Of course the crankshaft turns once for two strokes of the piston.)
Some gas or diesel engines are two stroke. This means the piston moves up and down for one powerstroke.
A steam engine is a single stroke machine. Every stroke is a power stroke.
There are actually 6 volumes of the Bull of the Woods Cartoons. They were republished a few years ago by Lee Valley Tools.
Maybe there are three lapping plates because that's the minimum needed to maintain the set by lapping them against each other?
Hi Kieth. I noticed at 22:15 the audio volume changing while you were talking about the mike you added. How ironic! I suggest using the Rode only with a cover or tape to make less shiny. Side by side, please compare to Adam Booths latest leveling video using the same Rode unit - w/o the directional mike . When he turns his head the audio does not change volume. Please reconsider your audio decision that the sound is going to be just fine.. I am sure there are sound engineers and industry recording artists that could suggest or specify the perfect solution for you and your audience. Anybody? I placed this comment here because this audio volume issue is beginning to distract (my viewing of) the content on your recent line boring table removal presentation. Thank you for all your efforts.
Did you mention that the "Stevenson Valve" is variable? As the lever moves towards the center, it goes into "cutoff" mode.
Very interesting vid today
Audio volume all over the place. At least no background noise though.
I would suspect that's a set of lapping plates of specifically three because then you don't need another to touch them up.
I dont know how you are scanning your materials but have you considered using repro photography to do it? Once you have it setup it is quite fast. If you dont have copy stand I bet you could easily make a sturdy one yourself, those can be quite expensive since they're speciality equipment. Repro photography does need some specialist knowledge on how to evenly light the subject and of course a decent camera with a good lens is a must. But it is very fast process compared to scanning large amounts of documents.
Pro Tip: The Steam Engine Demonstrator. This is awesome, explains reversing gear. 7:44
Keith, on your Rode mic, you might pick up some noise from that lavelier mic with that plastic plug. If you do, as a former audio engineer, I've found that one might need a metal plug for additional shielding again RF noise.
You make a good point, as a current audio engineer, this isn’t so much of an issue these days with the common use now of GHz transmission as most systems use now, including Rode. Still a good point though non the less! 👍🤘
Is the Bull of the Woods book to be scanned for the web site?
Talking about Bull of the Woods, I have a Far Side daily calendar and when I see a really funny one I put it on the refrigerator (one of my favorites is a guy is wearing a lab coat and he’s working on his workbench carefully tapping rivets into a missile or a bomb and one of his coworkers in a lab coat snuck up behind him and is holding a paper bag that he’s blown up with air and is getting ready to pop it) anyway, my daughter calls these jokes Refrigerator Worthy! So Keith, if you find any refrigerator worthy cartoons in your Bull of the Woods book could you maybe share one occasionally? Thanks, sorry about the long rant!
That coworker had better watch out that God does not have his finger on the SMITE button.
Are you going to do an update on the Stoker engine?
you have pictures of goose #7
I work om Goose #7 yes it still runs!
I have a 1/8 scale of RGS #1 in electric. I use it on my little track as a switcher. I made it with the proper inside frame archbar truck on the front.
@@russkepler thats is so cool Russ
I was an agriculture teacher for 41 years, when I retired I brought home with me a steam engine simulator like you are showing that the physics teacher gave me when they cleaned out their cabinets. I don't plan on getting rid of it but do you have any kind of estimate on it's value? Thanks Ben
I have been thinking of starting a site dedicated to scans of old engine and tractor manuals. I have poked around but have not found anything dedicated to such items.
If you would, I will be checking that out often.
The website that Keith is taking about has a section on engines. Maybe rather than starting a new site you could take on the job of expanding what is there.
That's a good $50 bill, still legal tender...
Hi Keith, I have historical littérature on steam trains. How do I send scans to you?
Do you sell the machinist apron? Thanks
With regards to the sound. The volume kept going up/down quite a bit while you were talking about the new microphone. If you could somehow move the microphone or apply some volume normalization that would be greatly appreciated. With these types of talking videos I don't mind the audio quality itself that much, but the varying volume is very detrimental to the video. Some parts are too loud, some parts are hard to hear.
Oh wow that’s reading matieral for a lifetime
What is the status of the Stoker Engine?
Hes waiting for 2 more patreon subs so he can afford to fix it. It's such a pleasure to help fund someone so well off to make more money from his hobby
From my point if view the audio is not good compared to older video's. The last couple of videos, I've noticed how much the level falls off depending on how close you are to an object, machine cupboard etc.
Something strange: I got a notification that "looks" like it comes from you, that I had been selected to win something and a Whatsapp number to contact. Of course, my suspicious nerve started twitching and I obviously didn't do anything with it. Wonder if some scammer is trying something and if anyone else has received these? ;)
@@flat-earther First time I've seen this one. I've been around the block a few times and as I mentioned I have a well calibrated BS detector! My first computer was a 486/25 notebook running Windows 3.1.1 and DOS. Been surfing the interweb since the early '90s... ;)
I got the same notification. scam?
@@dlfabrications Yep. Ignore it!
Lol, as you were talking about your microphones your voice was fading in and out as if you were turning your head away from the mic.
I don’t think you need or should grind your lapping plates, lapping three surfaces together will result in an average surface that can only be flat.
👍👍✔✔👌👌
The fifty dollar bill does not say, "In God We Trust".
Carefull, someone will be offended by your Confederate money!
Yikes the south rise again, don't think we have to mention what that was all about.