MESCALINE: The World's First Psychedelic w/ Mike Jay | YMT Podcast #30 [Peyote & San Pedro]

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  • Your Mate Tom talks to Mike Jay, author of, "Mescaline: A Global History of the First Psychedelic [YMT Podcast #30]
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    Mescaline is one of the most least talked about psychedelics, yet it has had a profound effect on psychedelic culture, both religiously and scientifically.
    Mike Jay talks about the western and native history of peyote & San Pedro cactus (Huachuma), the synthesis of the mescaline compound, phenethylamine vs tryptamines and more.
    #mescaline #yourmatetom #sanpedro
    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Why Mescaline?
    3:07 Mike’s psychedelic journey origin
    4:23 Religious history of Peyote and the synthesis of mescaline
    9:32 The spiritual uses of the mescaline cactus and the first psychedelic prohibition + Mormonism
    13:20 Psychedelics are tools that can be used for either side of polarity.
    15:50 Psychedelics: Direct experience Vs Interpretation of said experience
    18:00 The Masculine Grandfather Archetype of Mescaline cacti (Peyote and San Pedro)
    20:57 The pharmacology of MESCALINE and how it differs to Tryptamine compounds
    25:22 San Pedro Vs Mushrooms
    28:18 Peyote Vs San Pedro
    30:49 Synthetic Mescaline vs Organic Cactus
    33:42 Why is Mescaline the First Psychedelic?
    37:29 The western view on psychedelics Vs tradition
    40:10 What impact has mescaline had on culture? (Sacred and profane)
    47:46 The dangers of psychedelics and how to prepare for a “good” trip
    55:00 The future of psychedelics (pros and perils)
    1:09:53 Closing statements + Amanita Muscaria
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  • @yourmatetom
    @yourmatetom  Před 3 lety +9

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  • @user-yh4tc5vh5f
    @user-yh4tc5vh5f Před 3 lety +56

    Pyschedelics seems to have taken us out of a state of almost sleep..

  • @yourmatetom
    @yourmatetom  Před 3 lety +28

    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Why Mescaline?
    3:07 Mike’s psychedelic journey origin
    4:23 Religious history of Peyote and the synthesis of mescaline
    9:32 The spiritual uses of the mescaline cactus and the first psychedelic prohibition + Mormonism
    13:20 Psychedelics are tools that can be used for either side of polarity.
    15:50 Psychedelics: Direct experience Vs Interpretation of said experience
    18:00 The Masculine Grandfather Archetype of Mescaline cacti (Peyote and San Pedro)
    20:57 The pharmacology of MESCALINE and how it differs to Tryptamine compounds
    25:22 San Pedro Vs Mushrooms
    28:18 Peyote Vs San Pedro
    30:49 Synthetic Mescaline vs Organic Cactus
    33:42 Why is Mescaline the First Psychedelic?
    37:29 The western view on psychedelics Vs tradition
    40:10 What impact has mescaline had on culture? (Sacred and profane)
    47:46 The dangers of psychedelics and how to prepare for a “good” trip
    55:00 The future of psychedelics (pros and perils)
    1:09:53 Closing statements + Amanita Muscaria

  • @justaguyfromglasgow2251
    @justaguyfromglasgow2251 Před 3 lety +32

    "Pyschedelics seems to have taken us out of a state of almost sleep". Love listening to your podcasts at work mate. I hope to spread a similar message on consciousness. Hi from Scotland & keep up the amazing work!

    • @connormurphy924
      @connormurphy924 Před 3 lety +2

      That’s a Graham Hancock quote, paraphrased

    • @justaguyfromglasgow2251
      @justaguyfromglasgow2251 Před 3 lety +2

      @@connormurphy924 Ano, it was on the advert before this video started ha

    • @connormurphy924
      @connormurphy924 Před 3 lety +1

      Just A Guy From Glasgow oh cool, have a good one brah

    • @justaguyfromglasgow2251
      @justaguyfromglasgow2251 Před 3 lety

      @@connormurphy924 You to cheers!

    • @barockobummer2448
      @barockobummer2448 Před 2 lety

      Idk man Joe Rogan took a bunch of psychedelics and he still seems like an idiot. A lot of the the time they seem like false consciousness

  • @TubeSpoker
    @TubeSpoker Před 3 lety +10

    Incredible power in this channel.

  • @Jesse-fk3xc
    @Jesse-fk3xc Před 3 lety +8

    San Pedro was my first simply cus it was the only one I knew how to get ahold of thanks to Home Depot

  • @zzzzzzzzzzz6
    @zzzzzzzzzzz6 Před 3 lety +1

    Love the time stamps.. makes podcasts way more manageable for those who don't have an hour to listen to the whole thing

  • @johnhayes4456
    @johnhayes4456 Před 3 lety +16

    My all time favorite medicine. Mescaline is a gift for the world.

    • @JoshuaRichardson123
      @JoshuaRichardson123 Před 3 lety +2

      I'm considering trying. Whats it like in comparison to the others?

    • @backwoodsjunkie08
      @backwoodsjunkie08 Před 3 lety

      Also wanted to try it. Tried shrooms and LSD. Wonder how it stacks up to those

    • @cmac6136
      @cmac6136 Před 3 lety +1

      @Myles Stanford not the way for you maybe. You have no clue about other people's life so just live in your bubble and let everyone experience the life changing stuff.

    • @Cabbage_math
      @Cabbage_math Před 3 lety +2

      @@JoshuaRichardson123 more organic feeling than LSD and lasts around 12 hours or more, very visual,common visual phenomena are web like patterns,fretwork,lattice,cone,vessel,tunnel. Amplification of colour, edges of objects tumbling and cascading with intricate detail. The distance between the objects and structures in your visual field merge,approach then move backwards giving a multi dimensional view. Deep interconnectedness with the world/ universe and the people you are with. Although I’m not sure I’ve had a strong enough experience to describe it.

    • @JoshuaRichardson123
      @JoshuaRichardson123 Před 3 lety

      @@Cabbage_math Great description! Thanks so much. A few have mentioned its quite euphoric as well compared to others, did you find that?

  • @vermiculus3848
    @vermiculus3848 Před 3 lety +1

    I have been ASKING, as a fan, for Dakota to release a video about Mesaline because he did Huachuma while stuck at Arkana. Short story long, he never did. Thank you Tom!

  • @willowway42
    @willowway42 Před 3 lety

    Great filmography and interview. Thanks Tom 👍🍃

  • @zacharyvinson2338
    @zacharyvinson2338 Před 3 lety +3

    Found some “mescaline” and decided to buy. Had a very profound experience that grew me closer to my friends and made me cherish the little moments in life that make me comfortable and happy. Not even sure if the stuff was legit but I know the wave of emotions I felt were real enough for me

  • @MudrasofEarth
    @MudrasofEarth Před 3 lety

    Aaaah thats what you have been working on all the time ✌️🌴

  • @shamansshed9003
    @shamansshed9003 Před 3 lety +2

    this was a great interview

  • @nikicarrie4071
    @nikicarrie4071 Před 2 lety +3

    This was the most unique experiences I’ve ever had I love mescaline

    • @screamdreamer9085
      @screamdreamer9085 Před 8 měsíci

      You love the experience of listening to this podcasts or you love the experience of mescaline?

  • @JonUbick
    @JonUbick Před 3 lety

    In 1970's California Native American rituals were influential (sweat houses, sensory depravation, Peyote). Everyone read Carlos Castinada. So natural hallucinogens were big. It was an amazing time. I'm glad it is coming back. Living in Spain this is legal and there are ceremonies being led all over.

  • @foundryx6697
    @foundryx6697 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic interview

  • @charlescarabott7692
    @charlescarabott7692 Před 3 lety +2

    The fact that mescaline is less popular then mushrooms and LSD is the reason that you don't get arrested if caught growing a San Pedro plant on your property

  • @MrCalebGames
    @MrCalebGames Před 3 lety +4

    Great interview Tom. Hope you can get Hamilton Morris on at some point, season 3 of his show is apparently coming in Jan so might be a good time

  • @Jrski11
    @Jrski11 Před 3 lety +2

    I've found it very very energetic and complimented quite well with ganja.

  • @gc4346
    @gc4346 Před 3 lety

    Just came to leave a like be back to watch soon bro.

  • @zenmindstate110
    @zenmindstate110 Před 3 lety +3

    Tried many psychedelics but mescaline was one if not the first psychadelic I learned about and researched. Never had the opportunity to experiment with this compound but I truly hope one day it crosses my path. I’ve heard from others describe it as somewhat like a cross of LSD and MDMA. But I would love to hear your thoughts and experiences with this rare substance. All the best guys! Stay safe!

    • @joeladams2540
      @joeladams2540 Před 10 měsíci

      mescaline is like nothing else.....its wonderful and terrible........its absolutely magical.

  • @pwhales264
    @pwhales264 Před 3 lety +19

    I would like to try mescaline right now I do high-dose magical mushrooms. Also, I believe that the magical mushroom is the real first psychedelic worldwide because the Peyote Cactus does not grow worldwide you have magical mushrooms that are found on every continent all over the world the Peyote Cactus only grows in specific areas mainly South and Central America

    • @PauloBLKNS
      @PauloBLKNS Před 3 lety +3

      Even the time it takes to a mushroom grow in-natura is a couple of hours, a cactus would take more time... So i think its reforce the idea that the mushroom would be easily the first

    • @pwhales264
      @pwhales264 Před 3 lety

      @@PauloBLKNS , I never have done peyote, but I have done mushrooms.

    • @PauloBLKNS
      @PauloBLKNS Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@pwhales264 Naver had take peyote either, I think I would rather take some isolated mescaline instead... But shrooms i love them

    • @BlankNames111
      @BlankNames111 Před 3 lety +2

      @@PauloBLKNS mescilane is better then psylocibin tbh

    • @PauloBLKNS
      @PauloBLKNS Před 3 lety

      @@BlankNames111 Would you matter to say to me about ur experiences spectrum with those substances? I mean, with each one you usually take which amount? Whats is your dosage witch psilocybin and mescaline?

  • @infinitelove434
    @infinitelove434 Před 3 lety +2

    I can't believe you haven't seen fear in loathing. Watch it tom dude

  • @thaspacegoatae3419
    @thaspacegoatae3419 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm taking san pedro cacti this weekend. I have about 8 or 9 experiences with shrooms ranging from 1 gram-4.5 dried grams
    2 trips with gel tab acid (tested LSD) and went through a half sheet of 1p-LSD this summer, tripping with friends every other weekend and sharing. Myself usually taking 2 or 3 tabs.
    Anyways i havent tripped since September 2020 so I'm pretty hyped for this, likely gonna make the san pedro into a tea and trip alone. Cant wait to see what it has to offer. Anyways, love the vids man very informative and you are filled with positive energy and happiness.

    • @charlescarabott7692
      @charlescarabott7692 Před 2 lety +1

      How was your experience? I'm askiñg because I'm also going to trip on San Pedro alone. In fact I already tried but it didn't have any effect at all. I will retry with a bigger dose now.

    • @EKSKE
      @EKSKE Před 19 dny

      Updates, anyone?? 😊

  • @BlankNames111
    @BlankNames111 Před 3 lety +2

    You know you know you know

  • @rackslap
    @rackslap Před 3 lety +3

    😂 If I took a shot every time this guy says “you know” I’d be dead within a minute!! 😂

  • @loveistheanswer5924
    @loveistheanswer5924 Před 3 lety

    I have two small San Pedros here. Maybe someday I will trip with them :-)

  • @9333matzi
    @9333matzi Před 3 lety

    Hejo Tom!
    A while ago you talked about working on a Documentary about your mescaline experiences in Mexio. Do you already know when you're going to release it?

  • @screamdreamer9085
    @screamdreamer9085 Před 8 měsíci

    I did what I believe to be mescaline. Plz correct me if I’m wrong, but it was like every psychedelic see from a show or movie or cartoon. The plants and flowers danced back and forth to same melody. I saw kaleidoscope vision. It was the absolute best. Is that a typical mescaline experience?

  • @Ryan88881
    @Ryan88881 Před 3 lety

    Ah ok I think meaning 'first' to the modern western world (which wouldn't count the Greco-Roman era). I do believe psilocybin, scopolamine and ethanol were the first psychoactive substances ever used by humans and animals though. Nice video.
    Edit: I'm glad he talked about the origins of the world 'psychedelic'. So many people will say stuff like "psychedelics are technically psychotomimetics" which is not true because like he said, the term psychedelic was created specifically to distinguish them from psychotic drugs and states.

  • @LumiRapper
    @LumiRapper Před rokem

    The party animals helped end the early psychedelic uprise. Life is the biggest trip we are on.

  • @TheKingsteez
    @TheKingsteez Před 3 lety

    1:00:15 that right there.... Buying out entire brands and grocery stores.... Cutting the foods... Nothing we can do to stop it other than speach

  • @kurtiscoleman8189
    @kurtiscoleman8189 Před 3 lety +7

    I wonder if mental illness is connected to emotions being suppressed

    • @kiranofearth9234
      @kiranofearth9234 Před 3 lety +4

      Some of them are for sure.

    • @niyo1803
      @niyo1803 Před 3 lety +3

      You just answered your own question.
      Yes it is

  • @Siziusmopul
    @Siziusmopul Před 2 lety

    Mushrooms have definitely been around longer than cacti...

  • @tradertom4843
    @tradertom4843 Před 3 lety +1

    dudddde how'd I not see this till now

    • @adamsthomas3695
      @adamsthomas3695 Před 2 lety

      Damn homie I bought my from drugstore online I can recommend you to this dude I order from if you don't mind

    • @adamsthomas3695
      @adamsthomas3695 Před 2 lety

      ™IN
      INSTAGRAM ™

    • @adamsthomas3695
      @adamsthomas3695 Před 2 lety

      ™From
      Sharon_dize™

  • @TheKingsteez
    @TheKingsteez Před 3 lety

    43:00 right normally when you know what a problem is and how to cure it, you would just go online and buy it....

  • @dustinemerzian5989
    @dustinemerzian5989 Před 2 lety

    Did mushrooms help any of you quit cannabis specifically? I can't seem to overcome my need to feel that warm comfort to feel normal and balanced this far in.

  • @Greenkillr
    @Greenkillr Před rokem

    Fear of Loathing is the best movie to watch tripping

  • @mikesullivan7153
    @mikesullivan7153 Před 2 lety

    Thank the Gods them

  • @loveistheanswer5924
    @loveistheanswer5924 Před 11 měsíci

    How much gram San pedro do I need for a light experience?
    Also can I just eat it raw? And just some parts of it or the whole cactus? 🤔🙂

  • @GSCreat0r
    @GSCreat0r Před 3 lety

    Earliest I've been! I already know this podcast will be great though

  • @TheKingsteez
    @TheKingsteez Před 3 lety

    33:00 pain

  • @danielm.5636
    @danielm.5636 Před 3 lety

    Cool book. Now tell me where can I buy pure mescalin... :)

  • @brandoncordy7529
    @brandoncordy7529 Před 6 měsíci

    Guided meditation link doesnt work :/

  • @travisbrumble
    @travisbrumble Před 3 lety +1

    Early scientific studies were "much more radical, engaged and varied". You could almost say they were much more... scientific...

  • @Froostyyy420
    @Froostyyy420 Před 3 lety +8

    why does this dude look like he lives in a castle?

    • @Omar-pl1wp
      @Omar-pl1wp Před 3 lety +1

      Ol Cinderella ass

    • @tamzenkarma
      @tamzenkarma Před 3 lety +1

      He did in a past life 💋😃🌎❤️♥️♂️✌️😇😃

  • @vetlegoldmann7668
    @vetlegoldmann7668 Před 3 lety +1

    We know

  • @TheKingsteez
    @TheKingsteez Před 3 lety

    1:02:00 😂🤦🏿‍♂️ right you be on some imma let this shit go and brush it off... You not realizing this stuff wasn't done by acident and change of heart... rare

  • @TheKingsteez
    @TheKingsteez Před 3 lety

    Lupin ai poisoning with your 3d model... Getting me hip... Flattering tbh lol

  • @MrJAMESDAD1
    @MrJAMESDAD1 Před 2 lety +1

    Where the hell can I get mes.It was amazing

  • @Imsamhill
    @Imsamhill Před 3 lety +2

    Why does he call it the “first”? It would seem that mushrooms would be the oldest due to their being no need to process them very much. Killindi iyi brought that idea up. Mushrooms are probably the oldest. Also the ancient African mushroom religions are much older.

    • @infinitelove434
      @infinitelove434 Před 3 lety

      First publicized I think he's getting at. The first to reach the west. But your right mushrooms grow everywhere. Interesting

  • @conscioustrading8079
    @conscioustrading8079 Před 3 lety

    You know

  • @GSCreat0r
    @GSCreat0r Před 3 lety +1

    you know?

  • @cameronkemp9742
    @cameronkemp9742 Před 3 lety

    you know

  • @onism3053
    @onism3053 Před 2 lety

    Idk if it was the first, ayahuasca seems a lot older.

  • @miguelbasilio2051
    @miguelbasilio2051 Před 3 lety +8

    Nature's LSD

  • @courtneybrown6204
    @courtneybrown6204 Před 2 lety +1

    Biases such as "hippies were stupid" are what keep you from finding out the rest of the information. Psychedelics didn't disappear for decades, you just don't acknowledge the communities that were using them. Are you purposely doing that or is it your unconscious bias?

  • @serpentine4773
    @serpentine4773 Před 2 lety

    Bad sound quality!

  • @arturhashmi6281
    @arturhashmi6281 Před 2 lety

    lol how mescaline could be first world's psychedelic? this title is just a lie, interview was very interesting

  • @TheKingsteez
    @TheKingsteez Před 3 lety

    Asian friends in bowie😁 0:40

  • @altaica3522
    @altaica3522 Před 3 lety +3

    Hey tom, just giving you a heads up to be careful with the channel, a youtuber who covers weed, entertainment and education called Dope as Yola got his channel removed at nearly 1mil subs without any notice or warning. CZcams really hates drug covering channels even if its educational or within the TOS.

    • @yourmatetom
      @yourmatetom  Před 3 lety +2

      Man that sucks. I hope it was just a misunderstanding and he gets his channel back.

    • @justinbaker5359
      @justinbaker5359 Před 3 lety +2

      Duuuude he was such a good story teller

  • @brokens1097
    @brokens1097 Před 2 lety

    And ummm..

  • @joshuabolin4440
    @joshuabolin4440 Před 3 lety +1

    It feels very lonely being interested in psychedelics and living in southern Alabama. The only drugs people are interested in are alcohol and pain pills lol. I wish I could just buy some mescaline or mushrooms and use them for personal growth. Shame.

  • @tamzenkarma
    @tamzenkarma Před 3 lety

    Tom♥️💋🙏✌️😇😃 very cute.
    You get cuter.
    Thank you 💋

  • @andyperez5637
    @andyperez5637 Před 3 lety

    I felt a lot of not true stuff energy from that old guy. It feels made up on the spot, hesitated a lot.

  • @TheKingsteez
    @TheKingsteez Před 3 lety

    10:25 george floyd.. disturbing bruh