Is the Best Monster General even worth using?
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- A review of the monster hunting generals in Evony. Also tries to determine whether these generals are even worth using when compared to regular mounted generals.
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Not only can she take the monster book, she can take all the monster books that she has! That is huge!
i had to do a double take on your message. and i just want to say thank you for keeping this family friendly. :)
Cesar is still best. Monster defense debuff is the best skill. Switching to him as assistant from aethel made a huge difference
Hey Aka, great video but I hope you don't mind me correcting you on one thing. The assessment that Caesar loses to Maria is just incorrect specifically for the simple reason that Caesar can have the highest monster debuff out of all the monster generals. So Caesar seems really weak when it comes to smaller monsters where the debuff shows little value, but becomes enormous when dealing with monsters of higher levels. With limited testing, I have also figured out there is a max limit to the debuff so people should keep that in mind.
When doing world boss, the best possible combination would be Caesar and then Maria as his assistant, while during the week, I do Caesar and Theo for almost perfect double drops.
Love your channel so if you would like me to show you a proof or show you some testing, I am happy to help if you don't mind I can get super busy. Also, for reference, my friend and I who were investing in our generals differently (me Caesar and him Martinus), my Caesar was able to zero Y5's way before him. I know that is hard to read since there are so many factors but I thought I would mention it here too.
Other nice thing I discovered about Maria Theresa. When you receive the extra parts through Hecate's event. You can ascend her without using blood of ares.
I'm still team Aethelflaed. Maria Theresa sounds awesome but that Lunar Hecate event is tough!!! Another great video Aka!
Thank you 😊🙏
Yeah, the Hecate Event was tough and long 😅. I couldn’t play too much, so of course, I couldn’t get Maria.
Let’s hope the event comes around again soon 🤞
For bigger stuff I usually run Aethelflaed with Poligenus (built as a Lead for combat cav). I might switch to Napoleon prime, but I havent gotten all his specialties done yet. For secondary, smaller bosses I have great luck with Baibars and some other cav assistant.
I use Maria and she does way better than aethel and aethel has 3 red stars and fully cultivated Maria has no red stars and is not fully cultivated
Martinus and Napoleon Prime are my top monsters hunters! Everytime World Boss comes along I try other combinations and these 2 always gets the highest score
Monster buff and debuff does not apply on world or alliance boss
@@flushing_queens4827 They dissabled monsterdebuff some time back (before they did, it was very helpfull to attack worldboss with subs filled with monsterdebuff generals) The monsterbuffs still work, both on worldboss and alliance boss (I use the same main mounted general for monsterhuning and pvp, I do change out the rurik helmet for the plantagenet for pvp, but on worldboss the rurik gives a much higher score, due to 4 piece setbuff)
🤩🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 exactement ce dont j'avais besoin 🎉😘 tu es le meilleur Aka
Thank you Operaly. ☺️🤗
Hope it was helpful 😁
Thanks for the share Ethan Aka. “We just rolled up a snowball and tossed it into Hell. Now let’s see what chance it has.”
🤣🤣🤣
Glad to help as always 😁👍
One thing not mentioned is availability - Caesar is available every 1-2 months through the Maya event. In 2-3 years of playing, I've never received Aethelflaed and only had one Theodora, also only luck to receive the other Generals mentioned... Meanwhile I have a 10 star Caesar due to Maya event 😅
Also debuff is massive compared to an extra 20-30% in battle stats. Spend 1b gold in MA, no reduction in wounded but upgrade a specialty to weaken a monster by 5-10%, wounded stops or is reduced massively
In end end we work with what we can obtain 🤣 Evony like to see us struggle
Nice haha I to have 10 star Cesaer he's a beast do you know if he works with Maria?
I've had Athelflaed for awhile now. And I was able to ascend her a little. Consistently she outperform other monsters hunters, per se. I've worked on her more than others of course. But at 120M + or so target value, I get a significant amount of injured. Less than a day, but more than I want. I'm not sure why I'm typing this to you really. Your videos are so good! But there are so many variables to affect these stats, and I appreciate you trying to break it down as you do. It seems when I have the best general I don't in a month or so. Anyway, sorry Aka. I really do love your channel
love the ending. lol, Theodorah is awesome as an assistant. I have been using her for two years with Martinus. Aethelflaed is ok but feel Theodorah is better as an assistant. I also have Maria and feel she will also be a strong assistant. I wish I had Ceasar though, he looks like a good one with all the debuff.
Interesting comparisons. I am going to go out on a limb here and say that rather than looking at the general individually, you need to take a holistic view. That is the combination of main and assistant along with their gear. By doing that, I bet your results may be different.
Who is better is somewhat dependent on what you value in a Monster general, but to be clear, debuff is king when it comes to monsters and Caesar is still the most powerful monster hunter.
Think players should view monster hunters based on if they are the rally setter vs joining rallies.
Rally setter should have a pvp cav general as the lead. This is your power. The assistant should add power, help with stamina and monster debuff. The stamina help that Maria gives is what makes her 1st place. And Maria allows for both the mounted attack and mounted monster attack books. If you have 4 or 6 copies to match with the existing pvp mounted generals your stamina inventory will last longer.
If your just joining rallies.
Theidora is 1st place because her gold book gives 10% luck, specialty 2 gives 15% luck and she can take the luck book. But she is hard to get.
As of today Sanada and Spartacus have ascension that give both stamina and double drop. Both allow the luck book and can combo with Nathanael Greene.
The new ascension skills for Sanada and Spartacus nurffed Baibars. F2P cities that just join rallies have gotten a great gift from Evony.
Combo a 8 star Sanada or Spartacus with Greene as the assistant with the luck book....28% luck and 35% stamina management. 🎉🎉🎉
The best part is you do not need to use any blood of Ares to ascend them😮😮❤😮😮. My mind still can't comprehend the gift, but I'm loving it.😊.
Theo and Maria Theresa are actually compatible together. My setup is Theo with all the mounted books and Theresa with all the monster books as assistant. Neither are ascended for me but it still makes quite a good combo together once the specialties will be maxed out on Maria Theresa
nice comparing, but you should not underestimate monster def. debuff. thats really strong!!But from my experience, debuff lilimt is 50% even on mosters
I have her in new server & ascending her without consume blood of ares & we got her fragments in event ..she really help alot for sure ..thanks aka.
sanda is geting ascending
Yup. I’ll look at him soon 😉👌
Yes Sanda, Mulan and Spartacus are awesome
@@WasimAkram-bu1sg Mulan and Spartacus are bad though. Sanada is good
I just got him to 7 stars. Wish I would have saved more extra copies of him lol
@RedEvony Sandra is unless for debuff , after asending. Not sure if it's evony error, Sandra as assistant main skill changes.
New to your channel and so far finding a lot of very useful information. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything you do. That said, I recently re did my PVP march presets using your layering guide video and it has made a lot of difference for my arch, ground, and cav. My seige however has not changed much. I was wondering if you had considered doing a seige specific layering video and maybe a comparison of T11 seige marches vs a 12, 13, and 14 seige march, and weather there are different generals that are better for one or the other (meaning are there different generals for t11 seige vs big seige). Thanks again and I hope you are well, looking forward to watching more of your videos and continuing to learn from you
Another awesome video Aka, thank you. I have 2 Theodora's and usually use her as assistant for Aethelflaed and Roland. That maxes out the double drop, because Theodora can take the double drop skill additionally. Last event, we were able to get Maria but didn't succeed getting enough score and you can only buy limited amount of packages, so i got 15 fragments and have to wait for the next time this hecate moon event will pop up 🙁
Hi Aka, Maria, can accept all mounted books, PVP and monsters, and another surprise, she can work as main or assistant for Athelflade
Thanks a lot for the info 😊🙏
Keep in mind ascension only applies to the lead general.
I just use theodora as the assistant to my pvp mounted general. Works fine for me
Yay thank you for doing this video! I sent you a whisper about this months ago. Glad to see it done. Great content as always
Yeah, it took a while to get to it 😅
I still have a lot of videos on the “To Do List”, but glad you enjoyed it ☺️
I run a Baibars assisted by an Aethelfled. Double drops galore. Baibars is my legacy general.
I also run an Aethelfled with Maria. Great for stam decrease.
I run my main cav general with a Caesar.
Theodora is garbage in comparison.
Keep in mind monster def and HP really don’t do too much. I’ve only seen a reduction of a few troops.
Ultimately you need as high an attack as possible. Then some monster def and hp debuffs.
Maria Theresa can take all the monster books. The big guy in my alliance has her. Very good breakdown of monster generals. The issue I have with monster generals is the cost of Evony in general. Putting BoA and rune stones into them is costly. Also getting an extra 15 copies of said general so you can receive all those extra goodies. I don't even know how to get 15 copies of Theodora reliably Aethelflaed you have to get lucky in Dawn of Civilization and if you purchased that ever you know your gonna get everyone you don't want first so getting 15 copies of her is difficult Apptoid code or not. So you gotta do all of that for a moster general and a PvP general. Now 1 player explained why it might be worthwhile. Killing monsters is what you do the most of in the game. I'm not sure if that's a good reason to commit so many resources into one but maybe.
You game me some new ideas also, as you usually do. I have not used Athelflaed as an assistant yet. So I need to experiment on that.
Vip level affects total double drop, so as you game & vip progress priorities change.
I currently prefer my Nathaniel stamina with Quo speed boost over double drop boost
Yes, double drop increases with vip level, but that’s a universal increase for all of your generals. Getting more double drop is always a good thing imo 😇
Personally, for monsters, I prioritize double drops over everything else 😁👍
maria can take the attack book i have it and she awsome
Aethel can add the regular mounted attack/def/hp books also, giving her some more of each. I pair Martinus with Aethel as assistant for monsters and then a different assistant for mounted pvp.
Maria can take, all monster books ATK, DEF, HP, and also cavs Attack book, plus drouble drop book 🎉
I only use her as Assistant general to Napoleon btw.
I use Athelsflaed always for my mounted monster General. I have advanced refinery of Plantagenet on her.
Thanks for this extended review. To me it's abundantly clear that you don't use Caesar as monster Hunter. I don't know about the new general yet, but he is by far better than aethelflaed and Theodora. You skip the part of monster debuff very quickly, but that is where he outranks every other general when you consider monsters. Monsters are killed in rounds so if you kill them in first round you will get no wounded.. nothing to heal and defense and hp don't matter anymore, as those only lower wounded. At a certain point mounted attack is very hard to get and every percentage needs to be hardly earned. If you translate the power of a monster in attack percentage, let's say 2000% needed to kill in one round. Then 1 % debuff equals 20% attack. I leave it to you to redo the math. If you care about double drop, just put blue bird on him, it will still make him strongest around with a certain double drop. Didn't cover the options for the AG that can also differ. In short, the basic stats comparison do not apply in this situation if you don't value the monster debuff correct. I experience his excellence every day.
I use Gaius and just today got il Naomosa who I’ll use as asst. f2p baby
As a non-coiner, Caesar is easy to get and is a great choice since his base skill is pretty good compared to other generals.. I also can't get Aaefleatheadahesahfaead.
I nearly had Maria in the first event she was available, I was only 100 things from getting her and couldn't kill the crimson B15 it summoned. Didn't know I could keep the items until the next event, so I've done that this round; not summoned anything and keeping the items to have twice as many chances.
Now that sanada can be ascended to 5 stars with his special stats. He could be a decent contender for early non coiners players.
I haven’t taken a long look at his ascension, but I’ll do that soon 😇👌
I believe monster debuffs are additive. So calculated after all other buffs. Since attack is the only stat that matters for killing without wounds, ceasar would probably be the 2nd best. Maria can take all books so she is the clear winner. But very difficuilt to ascend
The strongest combination is Napoleon Prime with André Masséna as assistant, especially if you have one fully ascended, both with maxed Specialities and their full covenant unlocked
Put the Monster Attacking, March Size and Luck books on him, he gives you 30% March Increase which is HUGE
My opinion- A waste to use the the best mounted combination for monster hunting.
People are sleeping on some things with monsters, I am happy because I found out how to kill much stronger monsters then my level should allows me. And on this list I can say Caesar is by far strongest.
Well I guess now you have to add Sanada into the mix as well ..... 😂❤
I am Sanada fan here ..... 🤣🤣🤣
Great video; sorry if it's been mentioned specifically but the other Theodora advantage is that she's the only Double Drop General that can ALSO take a Luck Skill Book for another 18% Double Drop... but my Theodora is only showing 10% Doublle Drop on her Special Skill, not 20%. Does anyone know why?
It was easy to get enough sanada fragments for 10 stars. Pretty good ascension buffs.
So I have Maria and aethelfled. I have aethelfled at 3 stars Marie with 0. I tested both as an assistant and Maria is not fully cultivated aethelfled is and Maria gets me a higher world boss score than aethel fled
Theodora can also use the double drop book. Don't know about the others.
Maria is compatible with the book on attack, defense and HP against monsters.
Aren't Nathaniel Greene and Baibars considered monster generals too? They have the same buffs and debuffs to one extent or another
If boss monster march theory was simply stats alone, you could just post the spreadsheet, but why not discuss that. If you want to kill a boss without wounded (because killing a boss with wounded is a waste of resources), then HP matters little. To kill a boss monster with 0 wounded, you have to kill it in the first round (player attack). This is why Monster defense debuff is huge, HUGE. So, based on that, attack stats, monster defense debuff should be a priority. I would like to take credit for this, but this was all tested by Ora, and her advice turned me on to it. I do much better with a base Sanada as an assistant (monster books) than I do with my two best pvp generals. I was dumbfounded. but the best way to know... test.
I can't ascend any of these premium event generals so those stats don't help. I just got Theresa. I put her as assistant to my Roland which gives me a better boost than Zhao and the stamina reduction of Greene. I am very happy. And she can take any skill book
I think that’s perfectly fine.
Most of us, myself included, can not afford to ascend all the premium generals we get 😅
And congrats on getting Maria 🥳🥳
But there's more! Now do assistant with them!
Maria can book, also pair any gens
Theodora can also accept the luck skill book. With specialty maxed, that puts her at 43%. I don't know anyone higher at the moment.
Yes, that’s true. But the other generals Aethel, Caesar and Maria can also accept the luck book as well 😇
@RedEvony yes, but Theo also has a double drop in her main skill, as well as specialty. If you decide double drop is your priority, she's the queen in that regard.
Maria can take Monster Attack book. She can also take Monster Defense and Monster HP.
EDIT: Maria also pairs with all three of the other monster generals.
Maria can take the monster attack, defense and HP skill books. Her weak spot is double drop.
-15% attack debuff makes less wounded than havin fully speciailzed Zhao as assitant, test proved. No clear tests for monster def debbuff. Defennce not working agains monster tho, not worth to mention defence. Aethe better than Zhao as assistant
But you didn't cover the ascension of Sanada Yukimura!! Literal ascension to the heights of this ranking for availability!
now I didn't understand, Caesar main or assistant?! And who should go with him ?!
Why do I not get the stamina decrease when using Sanada as an assistant general??
Teo is amazing especially if you are free to play player. Anyone knows if Marias stamina reduction stacks with Nathaniel ? That would be nice.
Hey Aka, did you see they just added ascension to a few purple generals? Now you can get stamina reduction with Sanada, and it stacks with Nathaniel Greene.
Yes I did. I’m looking into it 😉👍
Gracias Aka007!
Glad to help 😎👍
Dumb question, for Lady A, take all of the Mounted attack books, not monster books?
Also.... I am so disappointed because of something that I was told: When Napoleon came out, I was told that he would do a better job in killing monsters than the Caesar that I was using. After getting Napoleon to 10 stars, and using a ton of runestones in him, and with his skin..... He is no better than Caesar (who has no red stars)
I just do not know how to weigh the "monster" buffs against "regular" buffs.
hye aka, can u make a video about dwarf's treasure, i just want to know how much cost we need to spend to get march effect. Please!
I guess Baibars wasn't even worth mentioning, lol. I still like using him as an assistant General for his double item drop rate.
Maria can take all 3 monster skill books.
can you do another video compairing sanada vs athelflaid as a assistant general now that sanada can be accended?
Maria can take the extra monster attack book
En las preguntas del evento Juicio de Napoleón, afirman que el mejor general para atacar monstruos es Theodora
Oh! That’s interesting. 😲
I don’t think I saw that before
I have luck, monster defense and hp on Aethelflaed and Bird of Hurricane
Whom can i pair with sanada i just started playing
What abou the Sanada and Spartacus 5 stars maxed out now without spend BOA? All of theseon video is pretty hard to max out.
Ok Mr mission impossible 😂 great video
Does ascension matter for rally joiners? For the lead general?
If I'm using Nepoleon (prime) + Li Nomasha
Server 1162 here. Maria Theresa can accept ALL monster books
theo also takes the 2x drop book, bringing her up to 43% double drop, this is more important than the rest of the stats, i have multiple copies of her, use her as an assistant & rake in the 2x loot all the way to the bank & dont look back! you shouldnt be hunting monsters you cant kill in 1 shot anyway, lol.
Where do we obtain Maria Theresa?
What about the new 10 star Sanada
You can get Aethelflaed easier during events
Aka, I felt disappointed. The data you shared is not completely OK. How can you miss that chilly calculation? Aethelflaed data is wrong. it's Attack=155, defense=180, HP=130. she can take 25% mounted troop attack, 45% mounted troop defense&HP against monster skill book.
When I do general comparisons, I don’t include stats from skill books UNLESS there is a clear reason to do so, like I showed in the video with Theodora and the monster attack book.
Yes, I know that Aethel can take the regular mounted attack book and the monster defense and HP books, but so can Caesar and Theodora (and also Maria). 👌
All monster books on Aethel??? What assistant is best with her?
For big bosses use Caesar as assistant to ascended Aethelflaed. She is much more abundant than Caesar. His 4th specialty defense Debuff prevents/ reduces wounded For smaller bosses always use Theodora or baibars for the double drop!! 🎉
aka please make some Ground genaral Comparison
Caesar is still on top imo. Granted you need a dragon for him, but 30% defense debuff at 7th star + maxed specs is very good.
What about Athena
Why the hell would I get Thedora or Cesar. If I just get Afthled and Bibars I have a bang for my Buck item drop. I’m not saying they are top end but monster grind needs that greater than 50% double item drop. Unless you coin, then spend your money all you want.
Theodora should replace your baibars as assistant. The luck book and 2nd specialty give her the edge.
Theodora can take LV 4 double drop book ....25%+18% double drop 🤯
Please make video about new Sanada Yukimura Ascending update
I will 😇👍
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So what's the Best Combo? I'm currently using Napoleon (Prime) with Caesar.
The problem with Caesar is that he requires a dragon. If you have a spare dragon that you could use on him, then that’s cool 👍
Otherwise, I’d prefer Maria or Aethelflaed 😊👌
Aka can IOS users download evony aptoide version???
Unfortunately Aptoide is currently not available on iOS.
You would need either an Android device or an emulator on your pc to use Aptoide 👌
I thought Defense and HP were not important when attacking a monster.
I never like Cesar. He needs a dragon so not a good assistant. monster debuffs part of his ascension. He is a paywall general.
More likely to fully ascend him before the other 3 since he is more accessible if you place high enough in Maya event.
Sanada have ascending now
Can I use aptoide on evony pc client?
Unfortunately not.
But you can use it if you have an emulator on your pc, or on your Android phone 👌
With Ceasar what if you include the actual stats the dragon adds?
Not wasting runes and blood on a single use general
That real depends on who you call the best. Let's review your vid.
She can take all 3 mounted monster skills.
Thank you very much for the info 😊🙏
@RedEvony if you have Aethel be main general and Maria as assistant, then you can only use Mounted Monster HP book but the main skills stack
That’s very interesting to know 🤔
Thanks again ☺️🙏
Napoleon prime or child of victory- messina is better
Here's the problem I am seeing with people using generals like napoleon for hunting monsters. They are not capable of actually doing good damage to them. A friend of mine was so happy to get prime, his power was nearly 25% more than mine were currently when he had it leveled up and using it to fight. But... when it came to hitting monsters, that extra power did not compare to the damage I was doing, with the -25% compared to him when tested hitting our alliance boss, or the world boss. So in short, he ended up dropping napoleon as a monster hunter because he is only designed for PvP, not for monsters. He has no monster attack skills or abilities. I also gave up on Theodora a long time ago, as she only gets monster skills AFTER she is ascended. And She is so difficult to get copies of. Now Aethelflaed? A friend of mine was also more "POWERFUL" so to speak by what his attack power was using the crappy generals he had and he though he was the bomb. That is until he saw me solo a boss that he could not solo at my level. It took him and the one that used to use napoleon, to take down the boss. Not only did I defeat it solo, I did so with less troops and lower troop tier. As I was explaining how I did it and what I use, I mentioned aethelflaed (I do not currently own her, because she is too hard to get) He showed me that he had her. I asked why he wasn't using her. He had no real response, as he thought h knew more than he did. I asked him to take his top general, get rid of the assistant he was using, which was a lvl 27 and replace it with aethelflaed. He hit the alliance boss and immediately got 50m more damage in his attack (his aethelflaed was only lvl 19. so compared to his lvl 27, she has already proven to be so much better. Again, it is nearly impossible to get copies of her to bother ascending. I still have not even come across her anywhere, so I might never get 1 copy of her. I like Sanada, for now.
What about Baibars? lol