Construction Manager on if a college degree is necessary🎓🤔
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My experience is that the degree gets you in the door quicker but you don't learn construction from books or in an office. You have to be in the field and put in the time learning drawings and management first hand. Goodluck everyone!
That’s why you get an internship.
Ehhh I hear that projects don’t go that well for people who don’t have actual labor experience. Idk. But I have a college degree but want to become a tradesmen. From there, if I want, I can move into project management easily in my opinion
@J J That is a great route man, with that plan you can eventually become a project manager/superintendent and have the practical field knowledge and the technical knowledge from your degree. This way you are more confident in your abilities and people respect you more. I'm 19 studying construction management but also work in heavy civil (bridges)
Lots of companies require a college degree in order to get promoted past a certain position (usually no degree caps off at superintendent). So that’s a big reason to get a degree, doesn’t matter in what or where from but it helps.
I started doing electrical at 14
31 years old and have been doing construction management since 24 without a degree.. I’ve managed many multi million dollar jobs in nyc and I’ve hit a career ceiling and am now forced to go back to school to get a degree… the good thing for me is that once I get my degree I have a resume that will allow me to avoid starting from the bottom. But that being said I do not regret doing it this way as I am sure that this is what I want to do where as if I’d gone to college straight after high school I would have less focus
you said you’re forced to get a degree because of the ceiling you hit, do they want you to get a bachelors or associates (2yr)
@@kingkoko8602 you can always look on indeed or Glassdoor to get an idea… I’d say roughly, jobs that pay 65-80k require an associates degree but the 85-130k jobs definitely require a bachelor’s degree or higher.
*sidebar* -I just got a job offer for 85k as a superintendent without either an associates or a bachelor’s degree. Sometimes your work experience can be taken into consideration depending on the position and company.
@@jayo8506If you have a moment to spare, what roles do you do as a superintendent? Is this job more administrative or does it involve complex math or technical knowledge? Do you travel a lot and if so do you get a per diem?
Hello, I have recently started looking into construction management, and working on my real estate license. I have grown up around development my entire life. My sister is in school for architecture, my dad is an electrical contractor and my uncle is in construction. Do you think going for the career in combination with real estate would be beneficial or not really necessary?
As a super your job is to manage the site’s day to day function. That could include a million different things depending on the day. From inspections to, site walkthroughs, safety walkthroughs, meetings with owners/reps, all the while reporting progress to your office and maintaining proper documentation on site as required. You’re also the go to guy when any workers have questions about the job from dimensions, equipment, the construction process etc. but all that info does not need to be memorized, you will have specs and engineers to reference. Overall you need to gain experience with different trades so you can have a basic knowledge of each one (that could be as a super or construction worker) and have professional skills such as the ability to write/ articulate on a high level with some computer skills thrown in there as well. Travel depends on if you manage one site or multiple. Hope that helps 👍🏾
I got an associate degree in construction management and after my two years turning 21 years old I got a job as a project engineer making 70k and two years later I’m making 85k as a PE next step is Assistant Project manager.
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PE as in professional engineer? And if so, how did you get licensed without a degree?
@@leavemealone9470if I’m correct, some states don’t require a degree. Buts it’s very few
@@leavemealone9470 i think he means project engineer, which they work under the project managers im pretty sure
@@leavemealone9470 probably Project Enginner, depending on the company and the scope of work that the company handles you don't actually need to be an engineer.
In the corporate world most jobs will pay more if a person has a college degree especially bachelors. Apparently associates and high school is not enough depending on the employer.
In construction, you don't need it to make good money, but needed to break a ceiling. No matter how many years, it's definitely a notably easier sell when you have a degree or at least gain certification. The earlier the better where there's less personal factors that can take away your time.
Not true a degree in construction management Seperates from working in the field and doing paperwork
@@Chijyd I agree, but like I said it's not a necessity to make good money.Certifications, yes. But not degrees. Degrees are just a better sell, but if you only have 1-3 years, it doesn't mean much.
I felt this, I seem to struggle even getting a call for positions above $80k with no degree. I have the experience as a PM, but these companies wont consider me without that 4 yr degree.
I heard about someone who has a lot of experience but no degree lying about going to college in his resume and ended up getting hired and being successful at the job lol.
I’m not saying that you should do it, but it’s always an option 😏
I like this dudes take
They've both got they merits, to deingrate or diminish one in favor of the other is hella reductionist, since depending on your career path, one might suit you more than the other, or you might wanna do both, yk?
I have done my Masters in Construction project management in the UK 🇬🇧, but I don't have prior experience in the field as I completed all my college and university without getting experience but now finding a job as an assistant project manager or Junior project manager is hard as I don't have experience in management so people who are thinking to do Masters in Construction, FIRST get minimum years of experience so that it would be beneficial for you to find jobs after you have finished your studies.
Hello, I am also in the UK, I have an MSc in civil engineering,I got my qualifications outside the UK, I am trying to find a job in construction management, how can you advise me as I don't have prior experience in the UK.
Thank you for replying.
definitely should have got work experience before getting that masters. Good luck
I worked as a designer for many years with some carpentry experience and them I went back and got my engineering degree/minor in construction management. I am now a PM for a large company, so yes, Your advice is sound.
All the cal poly and Berkeley kids try to come and work at my company and immediately ask if they can work in the office cause they weren’t expecting it to be so hard 😂
Hahaha
“Wait I actually have to work with my hands?!? But I went to college!!!” Lol
I’m 18, I go to an alternative internship high school and they have a program for construction. They do hands on working and have a huge room to learn and do projects. My school said they will also help get me a job after I’m done with the class as my school has ties with the workforce. Now I picked the construction class because I’d like to learn how to build things and it seems like something beneficial to have knowledge on. Would y’all think this is a good opportunity I took? I don’t want to go to college because I don’t like school lol but I just want a decent career that’d make at least good enough money for the times we are in today. Anyway, anyone who is in construction got some advice for me?
Yo bro I’m tryna get into one of those programs, do you recommend I should go? I’m tryna do construction once I turn 18 I’m 17 rn
I don’t like school either, I’m way behind on credits I can’t graduate for shit. So I’m choosing construction for now
I work in construction during summer and go to school in the fall.. both experience and education can be great!
There are paper ceilings in the project management section of construction. It is difficult to go from the field to the office because doing the work and managing the business administration of the work are not synonymous. Maybe back in the day you could get away with not having a degree but the company that I work for & many others hire ppl with degrees for PM and APM roles.
I started my life as a construction laborer. Got a scholarship and went to university. Became a licensed architect and then a project manager. Moved to Canada, I started my life as a construction laborer, architectural draftsman now. Looking for construction management positions. Life is hard, but I still have hope. 😊
Yeah I definitely need to get a degree, definitely was under qualified for many of the construction positions I was put in especially in leadership positions. Grateful for the experience but it’s time to hit the books the piece that knowledge together
I’m pursuing the same degree and I was nervous when he said it’s not needed and I got nurvous until I heard and understood his message to those who’s not meant to go to school so respect man
Pursuing my career as a stone Mason and plaster and it’s been tough but worth every minute of it
Proceeds to give common, basic, flat 'advice'
Because he’s telling the truth
@@jr7125 ikr lol.. it’s literally true and it’s basic common sense. It’s just a matter of are you willing to go through the focused work and studying to get the degree… not much else to it lol. You get a degree you get more stability and a higher wage. Without a degree you have less stability and a lower chance of making the same salary, but it’s not impossible. Simple as that🤣🤣you can win both ways, but one has a path for you with open doors ready. The other you have to dig your own dirt and create the doors or hope for a door to come your way if you stay dedicated enough.
@@Yinyang1277like my dad says “work smarter, not harder”
Connections are honestly one of the most powerful tools you can use to get far into any business. If you meet new people and build yourself a good reputation you can easily get into the industry like I did myself.
I busted my ass for years being a laborer with just a Military background and experience. I didn’t start making great money until I received my bachelor’s degree. Now it’s less physical labor but my brain 🧠 is on 🔥.
I don’t have a construction management or engineering degree. My bachelors is in Healthcare Management BUT I was able to get a PM job as a superintendent using the angle of Healthcare construction. You don’t necessarily need a CM degree to work in the field. You can come up through the trades too or get an apprenticeship
But the point is you need some form of post secondary education to even get in the door
I make six figures as a construction manager with no fancy degree. I started working young and with some ambition I moved up the ladder over the course of few years and learned every capacity in my field by directly being in the field. It’s soft men that choose to go to school first then be in management directly and still don’t have any experience when they hit the field.
Could you give a quick summary of how you moved up the ladder that way? Example: Laborer, Foreman, Superintendent, project manager to where your at now? Or how did you go about it?
Do the work u love it then u will enjoy the work
I’ve been a construction manager in the custom home building industry for 6 years now. No degree and making $95k/yr base salary + $15-$25k in bonuses. The money is good but the job is overly stressful sometimes. It’s definitely not for anyone who can’t handle stress very well.
Thanks for this detailed comment , Am a architecture student in my last year, i want to pursue a secure career, what would you suggest- Msc in CM or Masters in urban planning ? Am thinking of pursuing Msc in CM from UAE , i can handle stress as you mentioned, am a good designer but there’s always a better designer than me which makes me feel to pursue a career which can make my scope wide and also give me good salary packages with decent life :) will be waiting for your reply🙌
Man I thought I didn’t need a degree to be successful because that’s the narrative for my generation because of social media
I came from nothing and I gotta say getting my MBA recently I wouldn’t believe a couple years ago I would be making 80k base pay in project management.
Maybe school was for me and I enjoy what I do so it’s easier but I remember having a cracked phone,engine light on my car and being 2k in debt thinking it was the end of the world. It doesn’t hurt to try a semester at community college when you come from nothing like myself especially since that fasfa money gave back 1500 back to me I was thinking I was Rich haha
That’s what I’m going for , project management
Im a senior for construction management rn, no regrets, but i wish i had taken an internship/job a little earlier
@@bassmasters123 how do you think an internship would’ve helped you?
@@michaeljaf5734 an internship working right under a project manager looks better then the HVAC labor job i have rn for what i want to get into, plus its a shortcut to better paying jobs. I personally dont want to keep working HVAC and want to get into sustainability, an internship would just save so much time and after-college stress for me. Despite having a 3.5gpa, internships are just super competitive rn in my area so i feel like applying sooner would've guaranteed my goals.
@@bassmasters123 I’m a junior getting my construction science and management and our college requires a summer internship program that you have to do to graduate
I would ask an injured worker and see what they have to say about their chosen profession..
Exactly
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I don’t regret getting a degree. I’m in a higher level position than a person 20 years older than me. She has way more experience than me but technically I’m in a higher position simply bc she doesn’t have a degree. She also could not be promoted.
What’s your occupation?
Not always true! I've been painting and sandblasting for 20 years now and cant hit more than 80,000 a year and thats a whole lot of overtime, the only way out is to be a project manager estimator or something that requires schooling.
I thought I was never going to go to college, screw college right!? Until I opened my eyes and saw all of the older guys killing their body’s and living pay check to pay check. Luckily I’m only 21
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That's BS I have 12 years of construction I work my ass off for a company and when I ask the higher up I am ready to move up they to me I am more valuable as a worker. I quite after what they said now I am working on getting my PMP cert
To have the highest potential of success in the construction industry, a person needs BOTH education AND field experience. Most US companies look for managerial candidates (i.e. Project Managers and Senior Superintendents) that have at least some experience in both aspects of management, office and field. The order a person gains experience WILL determine how quickly that success comes, but WILL NOT ultimately determine whether success comes or not. The amount of hard work the person puts into their career however, will likewise determine the level of success they achieve in the long term. Short Answer: There is no EASY path in construction, HARD WORK and INFORMED DECISION will do more to ensure ultimate success, moreso than where you start.
Solid
Electrician construction. Gonna go to school for PLC soon 😎
I can’t even get through high school man there’s so much college minds consuming stuff that just makes you stay away from everything in general I’m a hyper kid and I prefer to just stay simple and work a heavy duty job
Hey man, I was a highschool drop out, I'm 38 now and graduated with an engineering/construction management degree and work as a PM. Don't give up, it may take time but you are going to be doing something else anyways, might as well be what you are passionate about
is this in Ontario?
A key thing is if you want to climb the ladder you need a degree or you won’t get some promotions
What he isn't telling you is that you will be capped in what you can earn in your career without a degree. Although that degree may not get you real world expirience, it comes in handy when negotiating your salary when you've got the expirience under your belt.
I went to AIMS Community College back in 2017-2018. I got suspended for a year because i was politically incorrect (im a veteran). Dropping out and working blue collar and high profile sales was one of the best decisions of my life.
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As somebody who works in construction management, you usually do need a degree to get your first job. But honestly anyone can do it.
Basically said if your stupid go and work hard
Millionaires and billionaires have to work hard too. Maybe not as hard as you but we all still gotta work !
@@madej5 yea rich people work from the neck up they use their head to make money which is the way it should be
No, he's saying you don't have to go to school to start pursuing it if you are interested, because experience is just as important. Sometimes the company would fund your studies, which is kinda common when it comes to project and construction management roles.
@@kcockbur how do you gain experience without the education ??
I know people that are Just…
No drivers license or car ride a bike to school & have been my superintendent..lol
Arturo Vidal ... Is it you ?
He’s just saying that to lower his competition
If your going to a leadership interview WITHOUT an degree your just wasting your time unless you have 3 decades worth of experience
If you’re going to be a foreman/super you don’t. If you’re going to be an actual CM a senior PM or anything above it is. If you don’t want to be stuck in the same place. I have a degree in CM and I don’t even use it. I work in safety but that stupid piece of paper has opened more doors than my experience ever could. When i paired with my experience it makes it that much more rewarding 🤑🤑🤑
Alot of people dont get raises bc no. Degree
Do you need a degree in construction management for this career field? What if you have a similar degree and revenant experience?
that all you need if any degree i never knew it was even suggested in construction to have a degree, more hands on experience.
I’m currently in school for it
U don’t need one but from my knowledge it’s way harder to get in the field without one
But at the end of the day experience is the most important thing so I think u could be fine with a similar degree
@@blakejoseph2780 all person has to do is walk up on a construction site and they are going to put you to work
@@glennjenkins7907 your not wrong, but since he mentioned a degree I’m thinking he meant along the lines of becoming a project manager, estimator, surveyor, etc.
@@blakejoseph2780 I understand what you are saying but example project most of the time just a construction manager who got hurt and they move him/her to office.estimator they are just now making policy to slow growth in fields by making people get paperwork.
It's not worth it unless you want to go into something specialized like a scientist or something like that.
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I already have the expirience i just need the degree for it give me more opportunities
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Bruh i can get u but if u have a possibility to get a degree I think u should go for it but also persue what u want on the side
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of course he doesnt want other people to get the degree... he needs workers.
He didn't answer the question
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Don't listen to this guy. Get an associates at a community College. If you go construction, get into a trade apprenticeship program and complete it. Get the license in it. And if you want earn more, in construction Get the construction management degree. But there is no avoiding school. Apprenticeship programs is still school.
What trade exactly would be best to do the apprenticeship program in?
@bryanj.9050 electrical and plumbing are the most popular, but you also have HVAC and a bunch of others. The key is to go through an accredited program.
Like I said, there is zero avoiding school if you wanna make good money in anything. Anything that does not require some kind of school is likely a scam or inconsistent. If you're young go through any program now. While it's OK to be broke. It's harder to do when your older and have more expectations and responsibilities.
This guy things “blue collar” is an industry. Yikes.
As being the worker itself we look straight through the guys that went to school, we can smell you out before you even can even say your first word outta your hole. I remember having a super joke with me In front of his assistant. “It’s hard to find good help nowadays” Assistsnt just laughs “haha, yeah” 💀💀 not the sharpest tool in the shed for going to school..
Everytime I go after something I’m passionate in, somebody shoots my opportunities down. 🤨
Dudes in Wall Street make 6 figures working 80 hours a week after working their asses off at an Ivy League school.
Construction workers can make 6 figures as well with much less stress, hours per week and no college degree
I know ppl that don't even speak English, and make 6 figures working in construction
@@s.caiado1381construction your generally also looking at 60-80 hours a week, also in my area they don’t pay any trade over 35an hour as a journeyman, except sprinkler fitter and elevator mechanics, which are mainly union, when your looking at non union, your lucky to make 30 an hour in my area, I can literally make more DoorDash, 1-1.5k a week barely pushing over 40hrs we’re as with a trade id have to bust my balls to make that working shit hours and have no life with my family, also you don’t have to go to a prestigious school, go to community college and you can get a 4 year degree for less than 30k, not a lot of debt and if you have a plan or save up beforehand you can easily pay that off, trades are only good in certain states and cities