*WORST REVEAL YET?!* Buffy the Vampire Slayer S6 Ep 3 "After Life" Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING
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WORST REVEAL YET?! Buffy the Vampire Slayer S6 Ep 3 "After Life" Reaction: FIRST TIME WATCHING
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Knowing that Buffy was in Heaven makes it so much more painful remembering her asking Dawn, " Is this Hell?" 😢
That’s how you knew she was in heaven.
I lose it every time I see the part where Spike realizes that it's actually Buffy. His eyes say everything!
Amazing acting! One of my favorite scenes of the whole show
There is a reason why Spike was still around... And that's because Marsters is such a good actor!
Vampires are such nice guys.
He is so expressive! He is an amazing actor and he can convey so much emotion without saying a thing
@@jameshenner5831 Apparently, some are.
I love how "death is your gift" makes even more sense now. Buffy died and received the best gift ever, being happy and finally at piece. Too bad it didn't last long, because her friends decided to play god. This season is depressing as hell, but that's what makes it so good.
Season 7 isn't much less depressing. Lol.
"I think I was in heaven, and now I'm not"
*chills*
This is hell!
James Marsters just... acting perfection. The fact that he doesn't have more roles is criminal.
James and Sarah acted the hell outta their shared scenes in this episode. and i can't wait till you get to the Big Bad of this season :)
‘Every night I save you’ kills me every time 😢😢😢
"147 days yesterday...148 today." The way James delivers that line always makes me tear up. 💜🥲
“Except today doesn’t count, does it?” ❤😢 my hearttttt
That last scene hits hard. They were all so selfish to bring her back. I like how things in Buffy always have consequences. A lot of shows deal with ressurection but this one does not treat it like a blessing
Resurrection is actually _very rarely_ treated like a blessing in fictional stories. And that's because,since it's not possible in real life,they don't wanna make you feel _too bad_ and so they fool you into think that it would be a bad idea anyway so you better not even thinking of trying.
@@Nicamonreally good point!! Your comment made me think about AHS: Coven and a particular plot (I won’t say just in case of spoilies)
Well, it also hits at the notes of like wanting to hang onto people for own selfish reasons, and not being able to let them go where they’re in a better place
@@Nicamon a lot of shows bring characters back with consequences that last one or two episode tops. Thats what I mean. Its like they never died
Is it really that selfish if they _truly_ believed she was being tormented in a hell dimension?
I love the way the camera zooms in on Joyce's picture when Buffy is staring at it. Given where Buffy was, it wouldn't be a stretch that she was with her mother. She got torn away from her. Again.
S6E17
Buffy has a connection with Spike now, he says it after looking at her beat up knuckles- Dug herself out of her grave. Done it myself.
Everyone else needs her to be okay so they feel alright about what they did, Spike wasn't in on it so she doesn't have to pretend with him. Pretending you're okay when you're not is exhausting, it's no wonder she sought him out.
It's also so interesting how Spike kept working alongside the Scoobies, taking care of Dawn, despite the object of his desire being gone. He's soulless and basically self serving by nature, so it's interesting behavior.
Spike has a soul again this season
Yes, but that kinda also nullifies the entire point in having a soul
@@alanarapacz1882 no he doesn't? he's still soulless, which makes his behavior all the more interesting
I have a headcannon about vampires in the Buffyverse - when a person is made into a vampire, we know the human soul is gone and the demon takes over the body, right? But your thoughts and feelings don't leave your body with your soul because those are a part of your mind, so the demon gets that part of your body too. If a person is bad, like Liam was, then the vampire they become takes that to evil levels like Angelus did. If a person is ruthless and self-centered, like human Darla, then the vampire they become takes it to evil levels like she did. Drusilla as a human could see visions and was driven insane by Angelus, so that's what she was like as a vampire but more so.
However, William was a loving son who took care of his weak, sick mother and a man who desperately wanted to find someone to love, so there wasn't much evil in him to begin with. He learned to enjoy the kill because he was taught to by the woman he loved, Drusilla, and by his exposure to Angelus and Darla. But take him away from that and put a chip in his head that takes humans off the menu... and you end up with Spike reverting to his caretaking ways with Dawn and Joyce, and finding someone to love in Buffy. He's still a vampire with a certain amount of evil in him because of the demon, which makes him unable to have remorse for his past because he doesn't have a soul, but he's closer to his human behavior now than any other vampire has ever been because of the chip.
So that's my headcannon about how we have truly evil vampires like Angelus, but we also have more decent vampires like chipped Spike.
@@alanarapacz1882 This is a bit of a spoiler - you should probably delete it.
Just like whenever Buffy had to kill Angel, I feel like Buffy’s friends don’t really comprehend the trauma that she would have faced. Even if she had been in a hell dimension like they originally assumed, surely they understand she couldn’t just bounce back to form? It’s like they expect her to immediately be her usual, chipper self. Spike has some absolutely fantastic scenes this episode, but I especially love his “Magic always has consequences” line.
Honestly one of the most annoying recurring dynamics in this show. I know 'outside' the text the reason is probably that separating or alienating Buffy from her friends in key moments drives home some key parts of the whole hero role thing. It's kind of like how in the high school seasons Giles would suddenly come down on Buffy hard about discipline, even when it was kind of uncharacteristic, because it would drive home the whole 'having a life vs being the slayer' thing that that part of the show was especially emphasizing. So from this stuff I'd say that character can/will be manipulated at times to get the Buffy-centric things to happen, which isn't necessarily *wrong* I guess. Like considering the nature of the production especially (none of this current like 8 episode Netflix seasons stuff), one can probably excuse a few 'hacks', if that's the worst thing we have to say about it, I guess, etc.
But within the text, it legit just looks like the scoobies rely on Buffy so much that they just straight up don't even view her as a person in a lot of key moments, which, well, as someone that likes the character, I hate that for her lol.
Like when Angel returned from Hell, he was basically a rabid animal. If Buffy was in Hell, she would have been in excellent condition.
I don’t know if you noticed it but there’s a shot of Buffy in this episode when she’s in the graveyard going to Spike and she walks past an angel statue and for a second it looks like she has wings foreshadowing the reveal at the end. It’s literally so perfect.
I actually noticed it on my recent rewatch.
I have never ever noticed that and ive rewatched this show since I was a teen, thanks for allowing me to see something new! I cant unsee it now!
@@LadyVenomWay You’re so welcome!
DONT READ UNLESS YOU'VE SEEN ALL OF SEASON SIX
I love the way Buffy says she was torn out of heaven "by my friends." It lets you know what she thinks of them during this season and why she goes to Spike.
Also that she trusts him enough,but also that she's not that worried to make him suffer. BTW I don't think that's a spoiler.
@@Nicamon The arc of it happens after this episode. Therefore it's a spoiler. I have another comment in this video and someone called part of the comment out that I didn't think was one until I thought about it. So I deleted said comment and rewrote it without said spoiler. Those are reasons why I don't take chances even if they aren't spoilers.
Spike saying "today doesn't count" and "every night I save you" always makes me shed a tear 😢
Death was her gift, she was finally at peace, she could finally rest, you understand the meaning of that a lot more in this episode than you do while watching “the gift” season 5 finale
You know i never actually made that connection before. I thought it was referring to her sacrifice for Dawn, but this makes sense too. Can't believe i never noticed that before.
Spike is that kind of vampire who doesn't care whether it's day or night. Another reason why I love him
I don't know if it's because I knew the truth about Buffy being in heaven during this rewatch, but she didn't seem very convincing when she told the Scoobies that she was in hell and that they rescued her. More that they heard/saw what they wanted to hear/see.
That was intentional for the viewers. When she was saying "thank you" and "I can't tell you what that means to me," and the way she said it and the look she had in her eyes towards Willow after Tara said it was Willow who did it. She was holding back the anger and disappointment. She was lying to them by giving them half truths.
Spike was the only one who only wanted to help Buffy. He thought only of Buffy, and wasn't just worrying about how this affected themselves. In the end Spikes love was the purest.
"Technically, that's not a price. That's a gift with purchase" -Anya
Sarah Michelle Gellar is an incredible talent. Her depiction of Buffy's depressed state after this most traumatic event is one of the highlights of this season in my opinion. It only gets crazier after this. Strap on for a hell of a ride, season 6 is great.
SMG’s performance in this episode is my favorite performance of hers too, for pretty much the same reason you articulated: the way she captures Buffy’s trauma. It’s subtle but so effective. In fact, she is stellar throughout this whole Resurrection Trilogy, playing both the bubbly Buffybot and a confused and traumatized Buffy. 10/10 acting.
Random comment: I just found out that Willow and Wesley are married in real life.
Married and they have children! Super cute 🥹🩷
"Except today doesn't count, does it?" Ah, the way he looks at her! Made teenage me such a Spuffy shipper. 😁 Incredible acting too by both.
I always liked him more than Angel, because Angel was cursed with a soul and would go bad. The second the curse is lifted, whereas spike was never really that evil to begin with, and just had the ability to love, and do good even without a soul.
Except for then he assaults her
@@paigelogan7600 Why the fuck are you posting spoilers?
@@paigelogan7600 don’t post spoilers!
@@tracim3080I see it the exact opposite. The default for a souled Angel was despair and nihilism along with the crushing guilt. We even saw him in s2 of Angel struggle with this. He chooses to do good, even if it doesn't matter.
Spike shifted his violent obsession with Buffy into a sexual one when he failed to get the chip out. He simply needed to claim her in any way possible.
That revelation at the end was heartbreaking.💔
Such an incredible episode, spike seeing he stayed with me for years and years "Every night I save you." shaped my teen brain on "real love" hahah I shipped them so so hard! The ending just gutted me!
Also even though this episode is so dark Anya's comedic timing in this episode is so good lol
You can have my coffee lol
What annoys me the most is how selfish the gang was. In a world full of supernatural and thousands of dimensions how could not one of them even consider the idea that Buffy was in heaven. Paradise was stolen from her, she deserved to be there and deserved to rest.
Willow taking Buffy out of heaven is the same as her sending Buffy to hell
Anya's possessed look, laugh and movements were inspired by the original The Evil Dead
So the hitchiker isn't the only issue The Scoobies have in resurrecting Buffy. They also have a depressed Buffy on their hands due to taking her out of heaven.
I love the moment where Buffy asks how long she was gone and Spike knows it down to the day. And the scene where he says that every day he saves her. Those almost wreck me. But the last scene does wreck me. I never believed she was in hell, even when she said she was. Buffy's body was not swept into another dimension like Angel's was. It was left on Earth and she was a hero who sacrificed herself to save the world. All the worlds, really. Of course, she would have gone to heaven. Also, when she asked Dawn in the previous episode, "Is this hell?" Why would she ask that if she'd just been pulled out of hell? The final scene shows incredible trust in Spike. She's trusting him not to tell anyone else and believing he won't. What a step forward that is in their relationship. He's the only one she can be herself with now.
I feel like Buffy was snatched from a happy and peaceful place with her mom. After sacrificing herself for a loved one, she deserved to be in a happy place.🤷♀️
I called it that Buffy was in heaven when this first aired, and even though I did, it still horrified me (and continues to). Literal nightmare scenario if you were responsible for bringing her back. Anya's demon possession moment literally gave me nightmares. LITERALLY.
I've said it once and Ill say it 100 times more, Buffy's friends suck. They expect her to not be human, to never have trauma or go through anything. They never show her any grace. Willow expected her to come back and thank her. Like, girl, its not about you, or its not SUPPOSED to be about you, but when don't the scoobies make it about them? Xander and Willow are two of the most selfish characters I've ever seen, and they constantly get a pass.
SMG amazing as usual, I love the bedroom scene: "Did you cut the throat? Did you pat its head? The blood dried on your hands, didn't it? You were stained. You still are. I know what you did!" * Willow whistling, like hmm I have no idea what she could mean 🤐😂 poor Bambi.
I could never understand how buffy feels after she was taken out from heaven and back the life with demons and death
Best resurrection ever written. This season is dark but so audacious and great for characters. Poor Dawn her situation is not easy to support. The scooby gang especially Willow is not really aware of consequences. It is very interesting through the season
Joyce's death and Buffy's resurrection hits me every time.
"Death is your gift"
It's almost like Willow is an egomaniac who just wanted to play god
It was a leap for Willow etc to assume Buffy was in hell. Angelus opened a portal to hell that Angel went through ,Buffy went through a portal opening all realities. I think Willow just want to bring her back she wouldn't let herself look into it more/consider it objectively. Will Angel s3 start on CZcams next week?
Wasn’t the portal intended for glory to get back to her nasty dimension? Not an illogical leap to assume that’s where buffy ended up
Also Angel traveled bodily to his hell dimension, whereas Buffy's corpse was buried in the graveyard.
Plus i'm pretty sure with all the magic in this series and how the magic system works surely there would have been a way to contact Buffy to find out for sure where she was before doing the spell.
To be honest, this would make Willow's actions a bit darker and tragic. Like imagine she did contact Buffy but she didn't believe it was her and so went ahead with the spell anyway. That could have made the demon in this episode serve a bigger purpose because then Willow could say 'see, i was right. I never contacted Buffy it was that demon.' Since the demon takes Buffy's form too, and it would add a layer of denial when they find out they created it too. A denial that could be reinforced by Buffy lying to them about where she was.
I gave this way too much thought. 😅😅😅
What pisses me off is that Willow can sense something is off, but doesn't really try finding out from Buffy. Instead worries about why she was not thanked for this amazing feat she just performed...Well done Willow, you want a medal mate?!
Can we just take a second to appreciate how good SMG's acting is this season.
Paused what I was watching and came straight here. Buffy trumps damn-near everything.
1:39 You're not wrong. Though in this case it would be "Coffin...bad".😉
2:52 10:15 Spike's scenes in this one get me every time.😢
8:36 One of Anya's best moments.🤣
14:34 Well, it has been a couple episodes since we got our hearts broken...we were due.
I first saw Buffy 2011-2012 and it was actually this Season that made me realise i was suffering with Depression and PTSD, i also found out i was possibly on the Autistic Spectrum too (eventually was diagnosed ADHD/Autistic.)
And as dumb as it sounds this Season really helped me through that as dark as this Season gets. I love the way they portrayed Buffy masking her trauma to make the others feel better (because thats what people who go through stuff like this do) i love that they didn't just go 'wow, the magic of love and friendship has totally made me feel better. Lets dance in the morning light amidst the dews of spring, teehee. Yay friendship.' It's treated like what it is. And i really liked that.
this group of episodes are some of the BEST I've ever seen
This is the season where I became less of a fan of Willow...for several reasons.
Her not needing Tara to make the demon solid always sends shivers down my spine.
Seeing where Willow goes in this season gives deeper meaning and insight to things she says and does in previous seasons that seemed innocent or wacky fun at the time, but were actually warning signs of who and what she would become.
I appreciate how thoughtful you are in your reviews, but the more passionate part of me is surprised by how kindly you're viewing Willow. Yes, she has definitely represented goodness and innocence throughout the series, but I feel like the previous two seasons shifted away from that (and put it onto Tara, whom I love), so I don't think of Willow as innocent still. And frankly, the way she behaves in this episode just drives me nuts. While it's natural to want thanks from Buffy, so much of what Willow does and says is just flavored with a smug, self-congratulatory air. "Be happy; we got you out," especially gets me riled up because in my view, Willow is not saying this to be glad for Buffy's return, but to bask in her own success. And when Buffy lies to her friends about where she was and gives them the thanks she really doesn't feel, Willow is only too happy to be proven right in all her assumptions. The "script" has gone her way, which is the only way she can really be happy that Buffy is back. Maybe that's a harsh read, but that's my opinion on Willow at this point.
Very good and observant reaction. You are one of the few reactors that can enjoy the humor,appreciate the action, and respect the thoughtful underlying message.Many people doing what you present can’t convey the complexity of the show and its content. I believe you will enjoy this season.Fans can debate Season 6, I think it’s outstanding, but the audacity of the storyline of the first 3 episodes is compelling and courageous. Having a resurrection on a supernatural show is one thing but the way Buffy does it is another. No other show takes the time to attempt to show that it’s not all happy times and there are dire consequences. We are 3 episodes into the year and look at the emotional state at the most loved characters ( at the time of viewing) Buffy , the badass hero is an emotional wreck plunged into an emotional abyss. She did her duty and fulfilled all actions to protect out of selfless love . Her gift of grace is gone and now she must deal with the wrath of the world. You mentioned in observation that Willow was disturbing and you were concerned. Think how the season started with her slaughter of baby Bambi. Beloved Willow has been altered and shown with flaws these first 3 episodes and all of my fellow Buffy fans noticed in our discussion after this aired.The ultra cool swagger of Spike is not just gone but replaced with a melancholy vampire living with regret. Not sad about the thousands he has killed like Angel but about not keeping his promise to Buffy. No other show does that to its 3 fan favorites but BTVS does and with style.
This episode always makes me sad and terrified. This one and Hush always freak me out.
First time I heard heroine fitting the description of being in heaven 😂
This is my favorite season, it definitely has an angstier more dramatic tone but it is my favorite. I love goofy Buffy and that still exists in later episodes, but I love the darkness.
We are slowly getting to THE episode. Can't wait 🙌
I know😂🎉
Buffy's reveal is heartbreaking... but also makes sense.
Decades after watching it for the 1st time it still breaks my heart
can't help but check everyday for more buffy now that you're into in my opinion, easily the best season
"Holy dragondemon"-- Nick
I love Willow, but to me she was selfish to expect Buffy to say thank you ! They all were to bring her back.
Buffy chose to jump instead of Dawn. She chose to die. And they know the first slayer told her death was her gift, she said it. Then Buffy talked to Dawn and told her to tell her friends things... It was her decision. So to bring her back anyway, and expect a thank you from the person that DID NOT want to be brought back... That's selfish. With everything we know, and they know. With the fact that they hid the resurrection from Giles, Spike and Dawn... I think that says it all. I love the scoobies, but they were wrong to do what they did. Assuming Buffy was in hell made no sense to me ! I never believed she was, even before they brought her back. Because why would she ? Angel went through the hell portal he created, that's why he was in hell. But his body went with him. Buffy's stayed on earth and looked like she was at peace. There is a lot of other things that made me think she was in heaven, not hell, even before those episodes. But... I'll end it there XDD
That last scene hits hard. 😢 Poor Buffy.
How many times in this show do I find myself saying poor Buffy?
Ahhh I am so happy you're back to watching Buffy again! I can't wait to see your reactions to the last two seasons, six is so emotional (as you can already see) and season 7 I had on DVD growing up so it's one of my favourites for nostalgic reasons! I was wondering if you've ever thought of reacting to Charmed?? It's another fantastic supernatural show from the 90's and A LOT of Buffy fans overlap with Charmed fans! I think you'd really like it!
Willow heading down a darker path, interesting take!
When I first saw this episode, and especially the last scene, I said, "Ohhhhhh shit." I had no idea how they'd bring her back, I figured there might be consequences, but I hadn't thought about the possibility that she might have been in heaven. Bring on the complications!
It amazes me that Willow and to a lesser extent the others would just assume that Buffy was in hell. They should have at least considered the possibility that she was in heaven given that she died sacrificing her life to save the world (again). I think Willow was just being selfish, wanting her friend back despite the potential consequences or even what it might mean for Buffy herself, and refusing to even listen to conflicting arguments.
I think you touched on the real power of BtVS in general. In spite of all the silly monsters and crazy magics, the actors and the scripts make it seem strangely real. Too real, maybe. I still feel my heart get stabbed at too many scenes in that show. And the entirety of "The Body", of course.
I think willow left the group out of the loop with what this spell could do to them and or Buffy on purpose. I wondered in the past if it was denial and just wanted Buffy bad so badly she didnt care. It could even be a mixture of both. We are getting major scenes of Dark Willow.
I find it so heartbreaking the scoobies immediately expect Buffy to be her normal self but want a thank you as well. No matter where she came from, she just came back to the world and they expect her to bounce back in a day? It's crazy.
I love this season personally. It's a grown up season dealing with depression, anxiety and addiction. Its dark but i love the big bad of the season: adulting.
I think they expect her to bounce back because they really don't see her as a person. They have this idolized version of her in their heads & damn if they don't get mad/angry if she doesn't live up to it.
Willow was there when Angel broke her heart for a second time at the end of s3. But just like in the beginning s3, she pushed Buffy towards Scott even tho Buffy clearly wasn't ready. So in college she pushed her to be w/Poophead Parker, then with Riley.
Xander keeps her on a pedestal until she shows him she's human with real emotions & he turns ugly and twists the knife verbally until she goes back to that pedestal like a good girl. It all goes back to her choosing Angel over him. He's got a bitter streak that really shows in certain episodes (DMP) anyone?
Willow wanting to be thanked ALWAYS irks me. She didn't want Buffy back for the sake of Buffy, she wanted The Slayer back and to prove how powerful she's become. The writers really laid the groundwork in the early seasons showing her ego/selfishness getting worse the older she gets.
One of my favourite eps, maybe even the favourite.
So much fun thanks!
Since I was a kid in sunday school I wondered how was life for Lazarus after he was raised from the dead after 4 days? - even the disciples warned Jesus, "but, he Stinketh!" A guy I know years ago had been technically dead for like 3 minutes, and he says he still can't get the taste of Death out of his mouth.
OH NOOOOOOOOO I caught up!!!
I love seeing your reactions to this show. You reactions are really inciteful and thought-provoking.
Have you ever considered doing reaction to "Twin Peaks" in the future? If you like Buffy, I really think you might like "Twin Peaks." It's a funny, witty, and quirky show from the 90s (with some very dark elements), which inspired so many other (and bigger) television series--including "Buffy the Vampire Slayer." Joss once claimed that it was one of his biggest inspirations.
Really enjoyed your reaction Nick, thank you
My fav season
It's so heavy, but I love this season with some (obvious) exceptions. I get why a lot of fans hate it, but the great moments out weight the awful moments for me.
It's my favorite season. The acting throughout this season has been 100% better than all the rest. SMG, James and Alyson kill this season they're so good.
I don't _hate it_ but I definitely prefer lighter seasons.What I *HATE* about this season and the next is Xander's new Italian voice actor!🤬💢
Great reaction. I totally agree with everyone about Willow and the others bringing Buffy back was selfish. They made a bad assumption. They created a hitch hiker and had to deal with that. It sucked that Buffy was at peace and happy and had to come back to the horrors of earth. Sadly I always felt like they didn't really have a choice. Demons were taking over the town, the hellmouth was gaining a serious foothold on earth, and there was no other slayer coming to save the day. Faith is locked up some where and the Watchers Counsel doesn't seem to letting her out. No new slayer was activated because Buffy died quite some time ago and her replacement was activated, Kendra. Faith was actived when Kendra died. So who exactly has the strength and power to save not just Sunnydale, but most likely all of California, at the very least? I just never saw any other way. Life sucks for Buffy, Willow should have been more forthcoming with possible consequences, but other help wasn't ever going to be coming as far as Willow could see. So I kind of get why Willow didn't want to know where Buffy actually was, I'm sure she convinced herself it was for the greater good, and I'm not sure she wasn't right. (If I'm going to analyze this great show on the logic of real life that is. 😊)
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Can we all just revel in Anya!
Oh boy....
Buffy was literally with depression the entire season trying to live again and her situation after back from heaven
-3 eps ❤
Tell me again how Spike is souless and not a plot hole in these episodes!!!Tell me again how he has no empathy and he's not *JUST* like a human being right now!!!🤬💢
10:33 - 10:39 Been there.Rarely,but I've been there.When I saw this ep the 1st times I didn't know how that was like...then I knew. 11:59 - 12:07 😄
13:33 - 13:35 You have _no idea...!_ X-((( 14:07 - 14:09 She means it. ;"""-((( 💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
15:19 - 15:29 It means she trusts him enough,but also that she's not that worried to make him suffer.
20:23 - 20:55 Yeah...like when Spike&Dawn stole/killed the babies of a demon mom who was just chillin' and mindin' her own buisness just to perform a spell Dawn took back at the last moment anyway. So unfair!X-
Saddest reveal yet. 🥲 💜