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  • The 4 Champions of Chaos are absolute beasts in their own right, but which one is actually the most powerful?
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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  Před 4 měsíci +261

    No matter who wins this, we can all agree it would be a hell of a thing to watch
    As a side note, I am still figuring out the settings and set up for the new microphone and lighting and would love some feedback
    For example - is the right side of my body overexposed? Does the Mic sound a bit tinny and boxy? Or am I just overthinking it

    • @Putuch6
      @Putuch6 Před 4 měsíci +6

      It does a bit boxy indeed but still better than getting that noise reduction too far, in the past I used to struggle with voice on your vids in public spaces on my headphones.

    • @user-bb8fx2yh3k
      @user-bb8fx2yh3k Před 4 měsíci +2

      get it? hell?! like, the warp? like, warp god?! like, CHAOS GOD?! LIKE, CHAOS GODS GREATEST CHAMPIONS VS EACH OTHER?!!??!
      (im going fucking insane and I dont know if it feels good or bad)

    • @Coalition2298qy.
      @Coalition2298qy. Před 4 měsíci +4

      Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a God

    • @szymonkalinski3014
      @szymonkalinski3014 Před 4 měsíci +1

      I like Lucius the Eternal and it will be funny if he somehow return to action and sodomise Kharn or other Chaos champion.

    • @irishmerit
      @irishmerit Před 4 měsíci +4

      But more light on your left... Need to even it out a bit. BTW long time fan from Las Vegas. Keep up the great work you Aussie Dingus

  • @AndrewPeverells
    @AndrewPeverells Před 4 měsíci +1269

    Kharn: killed but resurrected by Khorne
    Lucius: killed multiple times but resurrected by Slaanesh
    Typhus: killed but resurrected by Nurgle
    Ahriman: laughs in over-nerdiness

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit Před 4 měsíci +148

      Ahriman just makes the Rubrics emphatically enact his death:
      'Scream in terror for me ruuuubriiiiccs!'

    • @alexandermackie7621
      @alexandermackie7621 Před 4 měsíci +70

      But does he have his library card?@@koolunit

    • @koolunit
      @koolunit Před 4 měsíci +13

      @@alexandermackie7621 bro yes! Hope he doesnt get in after all this time, with Magnus being there with Karstodes..

    • @alexandermackie7621
      @alexandermackie7621 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Same, same. Here's to hoping that 'grot in a bag' of a god manages to keep him out for longer.@@koolunit

    • @GoDSkRiLLa69
      @GoDSkRiLLa69 Před 4 měsíci

      It's been revoked for obvious reasons@@alexandermackie7621

  • @LRodz279
    @LRodz279 Před 4 měsíci +585

    I love the fact that the traitor Primarchs aren’t even the actual champions of the chaos gods

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest Před 4 měsíci +98

      😂 they are the big daddy tools that get unleashed ...but the champions the most entertaining, or in alignment with their deity. XD Slaanesh might want a do over tho, because Lucius is a punk compared to the rest.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 Před 4 měsíci +31

      As the man says, what’s the use of a primarch as a champion if they can’t be in the mortal realm at all times. Gotta be there to be used lol
      Edit: though now they’re part of the greater game between themes and ideas so…eh I’m sure to them it’s the same thing on a different scale

    • @lokensicarius9347
      @lokensicarius9347 Před 4 měsíci +30

      @@TheFatalcrest He's trying but fabulous Bile keeps send her/he/it a restraining order

    • @TheFatalcrest
      @TheFatalcrest Před 4 měsíci +17

      @@lokensicarius9347 xD just constantly left on read and wonders if Fabius forgot to save their phone number

    • @NastyFool7
      @NastyFool7 Před 4 měsíci

      They can't be right, because they're not mortals? Most alive traitor primarchs are also demon princes- who are not mortal

  • @fionn2220
    @fionn2220 Před 4 měsíci +218

    "Kharn was hitting Abaddons sword so hard that the faces on the blade morphed into grimaces of pain, due to the daemon within the sword being hurt by the blows."
    Considering the daemon in Abaddons sword nearly killed the Emperor that is actually ridiculous.

  • @christiancowles9436
    @christiancowles9436 Před 4 měsíci +185

    I just noticed that Ahriman is the only one without a specific overpowered buff from their patron, and I think the only one who has never needed to be revived by their patron.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 Před 4 měsíci +41

      He is just overpowered on his own cause he is actually smart

    • @claytonthegrubkiller6430
      @claytonthegrubkiller6430 Před 4 měsíci +40

      Tbf he gets into the least amount of fights and he has the best skills to be able to just escape them, if any of the other 3 are overwhelmed they don't have much of an option besides to keep fighting

    • @shadowborn1456
      @shadowborn1456 Před měsícem +1

      my knowledge is my power
      Ahzek Ahriman

  • @arionofotherworld
    @arionofotherworld Před 4 měsíci +291

    Kharn and Ahriman are my favourites, they just seem more likeable than the other two.

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 Před 4 měsíci +33

      Kharn won’t brutalize you, Ahriman will just use you, hopefully you survive but at the end of the day he doesn’t really give a shit.

    • @deevan1415
      @deevan1415 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Helluva guy that Kharn!

    • @thedyingmeme6
      @thedyingmeme6 Před 4 měsíci +38

      Ahriman's that one 'distinguished' uncle who owns a shit ton of property
      Kharns' the fun uncle who lets you build DIY firweorks then explode them

    • @rustkarl
      @rustkarl Před 4 měsíci +25

      The other two went out of their way to be right dickheads,
      Khârn and Ahriman kind of lost themselves to it over time and desperation.

    • @Phendranaguardian
      @Phendranaguardian Před 4 měsíci +17

      They are the most likeable, and the most deep characters of the 4. Though Typhus can at least be respected for his feats and talents. Lucius is just pathetic all around, 40K would benefit more if Slaanesh just dumped him like a used condom, and look toward the actual most interesting (traitor) Emperor's Children astartes, Fabius Bile.

  • @izstan
    @izstan Před 4 měsíci +81

    Kharn, Typhus & Lucius are all killing machines in their own right, but against Ahriman, they'd be bringing knives to a nuclear warhead fight. The only way Ahriman loses is if he's somehow forced into melee combat.

    • @dr.stronk9857
      @dr.stronk9857 Před 4 měsíci +25

      Yeah Ahriman is crazy op, I remember a story of a sorcerer coming after Ahriman and when he finally gets to him Ahriman just thanos snaps him and moves on. Scary.

    • @louisnall3102
      @louisnall3102 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@dr.stronk9857that was Amon, correct?

    • @crimsonconquestcustoms2584
      @crimsonconquestcustoms2584 Před 3 měsíci

      Isn't Kharn immune to phykers?

    • @Fast85FoxGT
      @Fast85FoxGT Před 3 měsíci

      ​Or when Amon sent 2 sorcerers to bring Ahriman to him when he was hiding with some loose warband chais group under a different name and whne the other Tson's find him he just bodies the entire room to escape it. Ahriman is badass. ​@@dr.stronk9857

    • @noplease2608
      @noplease2608 Před měsícem +3

      @@louisnall3102 No I think he is referring to tolbek, ahriman literally just steps on his chest and thanos snaps him out of existence while doing it to everyone else in the room other than maroth who he mind fucks in the background. Ahriman had "somewhat" a hard time fighting amon, but considering ahriman was literally wearing nothing but a robe while fighting amon who was in full power armor I guess technically yea he snapped him out of existence as well.

  • @bodricthered
    @bodricthered Před 4 měsíci +188

    Ahriman. By a huge massive stinking great mile, the rest are combat hardcore but he's able to do mindganks on them from a thousand miles away before they even see it coming, he's able to make them think they won and turn them into his puppets...

    • @littlejohn8435
      @littlejohn8435 Před 4 měsíci +36

      Ahriman would win but not without Tzeentch giving him the greatest humiliation of his life: Tzeentch helping him.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 4 měsíci +15

      Kharn is immune to magic
      Ahriman has a Bolt Pistol

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 Před 4 měsíci +30

      @@christiandauz3742I’m not sure if he’s totally immune or just highly resistant, but I mean, if you throw a rock at the speed of light with magic, that’s still under the effects of real world physics lol not like if you just hit them with magic

    • @Arghishable
      @Arghishable Před 4 měsíci +20

      ​@@christiandauz3742
      He's not fully immune to psychic attacks, it's just he's very resilient / nullify a lot of lower tier psykers power when they are targetting him specifically. It's not an aura like the blanks, it doesn't affect terrain, allies or anything beside his body and mind
      This means 2 things :
      1) With enough raw power, his protection can be of no effect / reduced effect.
      Even if you don't agree with this, if you can argue Kharn is Khorn favorite and is protected against all psykers, I can argue Ahriman is Tzeentch favorite and so can be so powerfull he can match Kharn protection to a degree where it's not immunity anymore
      Kharn is not a blank, his psychic protection is by nature psychic too (i.e granted by a psychic entity from the immaterium). His soul still has a trace in the Warp, he's stil vulnerable to psychics
      2) With telekinesis, Ahriman can throw anything at Kharn and do substantial damages ; Ahriman can also protect himself indefinitely since Khorn blessing only protects Kharn from psychic attacks directed at him ; finally he can alter terrain around Kharn
      Now, if Ahriman or Kharn would win in a fight, I don't know. But it certainly is not as simple as plain magic immunity rendring Ahriman (or any other psyker) powerless, just much less of a threat even on a high power level psyker

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered Před 4 měsíci +8

      Khan is immune to magic, Ahriman sees him coming four days early and plants a nuke, or blows the airlock into the void, or summons a thousand warp daemons, or just walks out of eyeline, etcetc.... Brains beat brown.

  • @kelakogreenaddict1888
    @kelakogreenaddict1888 Před 4 měsíci +60

    one funny ahriman feat is that he outsmarted belakor when belakor tried to take a thousand son working for ahriman away

  • @TenPtJackalope
    @TenPtJackalope Před 4 měsíci +77

    Sharrowkyn stomping Lucius is definitely in my top 10 Horus Heresy moments.

    • @primary2630
      @primary2630 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Raven Guard was my favourite legion so knowing an awesome swordsman was out there clapping cheeks was great

  • @erathorsmash6941
    @erathorsmash6941 Před 4 měsíci +191

    Hey Majorkill, I think a vid on the different type of chaos corrupted space marines would be cool. (Noise marines, Khorne berserkers, Plague marines etc). Maybe a similar "which is the most powerful" style video?
    Keep up the great content!

    • @glenarthur9545
      @glenarthur9545 Před 4 měsíci +4

      YES PLEASE

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Noise Marines would have an edge - how are you supposed to dodge or block constant waves of destructive sound?

    • @erathorsmash6941
      @erathorsmash6941 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@indrickboreale7381 I feel similar about plague marines. Bits I've read about regular humans dealing with them are completely horrifying, just a massive aura of miasma that makes you retch and feel like you're bleeding from every orifice.
      But I think noise marines are also horrifying

    • @widdershins5383
      @widdershins5383 Před 4 měsíci +3

      Noise marines because things must always be loud. The song is eternal and everything is part of the song

    • @A407RAC
      @A407RAC Před 4 měsíci

      Have you read the Gaunt series, perchance?@@erathorsmash6941

  • @Coalition2298qy.
    @Coalition2298qy. Před 4 měsíci +689

    Video idea what if the emperor of mankind wanted to be worshipped as a god and had created the esslarcy the imperial cult

    • @SemNome-ds1qy
      @SemNome-ds1qy Před 4 měsíci +76

      Logar would be the "pope" of imperium.

    • @eriklazo5499
      @eriklazo5499 Před 4 měsíci +59

      Lorgars wet dream

    • @karsten_m
      @karsten_m Před 4 měsíci +29

      We don't talk about "the plan". The Inquisitor will see you soon.

    • @user-zf8hw2nz2e
      @user-zf8hw2nz2e Před 4 měsíci +35

      And then Lorgar leaves Chaos to finally be able to properly worship the Emperor.

    • @trimeerious4349
      @trimeerious4349 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Hell yeah man!!

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 Před 4 měsíci +308

    Hard to gauge, personally I feel Ahriman is packing the most power. Although Lucious’s gimmick is stupidly OP.

    • @Shadowheart181
      @Shadowheart181 Před 4 měsíci +74

      Ahriman kills Lucious. Lucious takes over Ahriman. Tcheench and Slaanesh go to court over custody.

    • @JABelms
      @JABelms Před 4 měsíci +28

      i think that the other 3 champions have killed so much shit to the point that they won't get satisfaction from killing Lucius. Kharn would probably when he was still "normal" but the guy has since turned to the very definition of "killing machine" that the only thing that could satisfy him is killing the biggest psychers out there like Magnus and the Emperor

    • @mikewaterfield3599
      @mikewaterfield3599 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@Shadowheart181 hey Kitten played a card game for custody of Magnus so why not?

    • @joshley1320
      @joshley1320 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Tbh kharn is probably maybe the strongest with ethier Ahriman or typhus being close second

    • @bodricthered
      @bodricthered Před 4 měsíci +9

      Lucius is hard countered by just locking him In a stasis vault.

  • @moneyshot6584
    @moneyshot6584 Před 4 měsíci +77

    Typhus actually ended up in a draw with a grey knight captain irc during an invasion on an ultramarine star fortress during the plague wars.

    • @redcellmission6841
      @redcellmission6841 Před 4 měsíci +19

      It wasnt a draw, Typhus lost to the captain and was forced to retreat from the Ultramarine star fortress

    • @moneyshot6584
      @moneyshot6584 Před 4 měsíci +7

      @@redcellmission6841 I only say draw because we really don’t see either doing all too much, the captain didn’t prock the aegis much, nor did typhus from a psyched standpoint, he’s also a Great crusade era first captain, I don’t doubt he probably wins in a to the death scenario due to his prowess and experience but it would be close I think. Imo at least.

    • @dwaynehicks6838
      @dwaynehicks6838 Před 4 měsíci +2

      That book series any good ?

    • @moneyshot6584
      @moneyshot6584 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@dwaynehicks6838 hard to say for some, but me personally I enjoyed it, lots of chaos shenanigans, nurgle demons are written with a lot of joy, believe it or not there’s not that much ultramarine content as it’s focused a lot of the primaris, nova marines, and guilliman himself still battling a lot of trauma.

    • @blizzardgaming7070
      @blizzardgaming7070 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@redcellmission6841grey knights and their plot armour, no way a captain beats the strongest champion of Nurgle.

  • @Stitched_up
    @Stitched_up Před 4 měsíci +22

    I feel like if Chaos was more unified these four could be the 40k version of the four horsemen

    • @Warfather17
      @Warfather17 Před 4 měsíci +5

      True and that would be pretty cool to see in animation

  • @leonalchamendris4036
    @leonalchamendris4036 Před 4 měsíci +100

    Video idea, the warp entities used to create the primarchs were Heroic Archetypes from Old Earth legends.

    • @user-yw7qm4lx5n
      @user-yw7qm4lx5n Před 4 měsíci +2

      Bravo👏👏👏👏

    • @usurparemagnus
      @usurparemagnus Před 4 měsíci +9

      Are you saying gulliman is Julius Caesar/Augustus/Trajan getting another chance at playing intergalactic Rome 😂 I’m so down with that idea

    • @leonalchamendris4036
      @leonalchamendris4036 Před 4 měsíci +16

      @usurparemagnus Not only that. G-man the Roman Archetype. Sanguinius is the Vampire (Dracula/Alucard). Russ if the Beowulf archetype. The Lion is the Arthurian archetype. Vulkan is the Promethius archetype. Angron is the Templar Crusader archetype. Alpharius/Omegon were the Faceless Doppleganger. Etc etc etc. They all have a source material in the psyches of man, and those legends created the warp presences that the Emperor used.

    • @drakemccoy7491
      @drakemccoy7491 Před 4 měsíci +5

      I very much like this headcannon, bravo brother.

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 Před 4 měsíci +7

      Thats actually the best theory Ive ever heard

  • @malal4751
    @malal4751 Před 4 měsíci +169

    Please cover what if clonegrim returned to the setting, How'd the Imperium and primarchs react?

    • @blackrose_221
      @blackrose_221 Před 4 měsíci +6

      The lion would probably behead him

    • @combomaster666
      @combomaster666 Před 4 měsíci +3

      @@blackrose_221 Guilliman would want to that himself but probably couldn't

    • @C1umsyJester
      @C1umsyJester Před 4 měsíci +5

      @@blackrose_221unless the emperor appears to him and tells him not to do it

    • @Ghost-Emperor
      @Ghost-Emperor Před 4 měsíci +5

      Imagine the Blood Ravens break into Solomence to steal, find clonegrim and then sell him to the Loyalist Emperor’s Children Successors for artifacts. (The Sons of the Phoenix aren’t slick I mean come on)

    • @Toxic_Nazdan
      @Toxic_Nazdan Před 4 měsíci

      i mean i wouldnt doubt it the big e would prob take all the help he could get for his sons even a clone who wants to be loyal is still a helpful tool @@C1umsyJester

  • @GoatyBoatyBH414
    @GoatyBoatyBH414 Před 4 měsíci +49

    Would love to see a video on Apothecaries.

  • @bluelegend2798
    @bluelegend2798 Před 4 měsíci +21

    My bets on ahraman. Don't know how to spell it but it's tzeench it probably changes every few minutes

    • @seanyoung9014
      @seanyoung9014 Před 4 měsíci +2

      His feats are crazy. I don't really see anyone beating him.

  • @scribbles1424
    @scribbles1424 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Ahriman is an awesome character and actually has goals besides "I'm evil." His reaction when some of his brothers were brought back from the Flesh Change before being taken away was big. He would do anything to bring back his brothers.

  • @dillonnaquin7750
    @dillonnaquin7750 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Video idea: which of the stealth legions is the best? Night Lords, Ravenguard, and Alpha legion are all stealthy but in different ways. So in a three way war who comes out on top?

    • @ronkolek613
      @ronkolek613 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Alpha Legion pretending to be Ravenguard attacking Nightlords while also pretending to be Nightlords and attacking Alpha Legion while also pretending to be Alpha Legion to attack Alpha Legion.

    • @daltonbecker4494
      @daltonbecker4494 Před 4 měsíci +4

      Probably Raven Guard. They would be the most pragmatic about it.

    • @paimonisfood4986
      @paimonisfood4986 Před 28 dny +1

      The Alpha Legion would hurt themselves from trying to act smart, the Nightlords are all insane, Raven Guard would actually be coordinated and adapt to changing tactics.

  • @matejjurcevic7122
    @matejjurcevic7122 Před 4 měsíci +30

    We know about the Horus Heresy and the Badab war, but are there any more civil wars? Did loyalists ever fight other loyalists on other occasions? Or does infighting happen quite often? Interesting topic I think

    • @kingofwar7202
      @kingofwar7202 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Goge Vandire's Reign of Blood was kinda

    • @nobleman9393
      @nobleman9393 Před 4 měsíci +6

      The Mechanicus had a civil war in M35.

    • @mrvex6695
      @mrvex6695 Před 4 měsíci +6

      Kronus Crusade and Kauravan Crusade (From Dawn of War games, which are canon and so are Blood Ravens), where Space Marines, Sisters of Battle (Kaurava system only) and Imperial Guard fought against each other
      its stupid, but not as suprising in 40k universe where conflicting orders and internal strife and corruption is omnipresent

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 Před 4 měsíci

      @@mrvex6695I replayed dow 1 recently as space marines and when I faced imperial guard and sisters I was like “wait… arent we supposed to be together ?” Just typical warhammer stuff lmao

    • @goldenfiberwheat238
      @goldenfiberwheat238 Před 4 měsíci

      Don’t forget the months of shame

  • @wiktorsierakowski1022
    @wiktorsierakowski1022 Před 4 měsíci +19

    Video idea: who would win the battle between Lion and Sanguinius, both having their legions at full strength

    • @icebreaker5138
      @icebreaker5138 Před 4 měsíci +6

      The lion since at the time they had a very wide arsenal during the heresy. Straight up illegal stuff. But in a duel my money is on sangy

    • @MrFallenone
      @MrFallenone Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@icebreaker5138 Is it tho? Is your money on Sangy? Because I would put my money on the Lion for sure. He beat Angron as an old man. He beat Curze after Sangy let him flee because they could not land a hit on each other due to their foresight gift. Horus was uncomfortable around the Lion during the Great Crusade. The Lion has 1v1 fighting warp hack powers.

    • @eeyun5279
      @eeyun5279 Před 4 měsíci +3

      ⁠@@MrFallenoneHorus was outright fearful of sanguinius. And sang has the best 1v1 record of pretty much anyone except the emperor. Also demon angron is basically a jobber
      To add: leman thought the only two primarchs he might have trouble with were Horus and sanguinius, so there’s that

    • @wiktorsierakowski1022
      @wiktorsierakowski1022 Před 4 měsíci

      @@eeyun5279 I am not sure, but I think that Angron was even more empowered by Khorne during his duel with Lion, so it should be taken into account

    • @Crusher888
      @Crusher888 Před 4 měsíci

      @@MrFallenoneAll true but isnt it confirmed in the latest book that Sanguinius is the strongest primarch in combat ? (Duels and battles)

  • @alfiewaller3978
    @alfiewaller3978 Před 4 měsíci +13

    Majorkill, can you please do a tier list on the performance of each primarch during the Horus Heresy

  • @matThaHatter
    @matThaHatter Před 4 měsíci +4

    Love it and completely agree.
    On a side note, Ahrimans strengths have always been the esoteric. And yes, we've seen him lose melee fights, but mostly to experts like Sanakht (who beat Lucius). But in the Thousand Sons novel he chastised his peers, saying, "One day we'll have to fight as mere Astartes," so I'm sure he keeps his martial skills honed. (At least as much as possible when you wield a shephards crook lmao😂

  • @sasanahadian2859
    @sasanahadian2859 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Superb video as always @majorkill.
    Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc

  • @GoDSkRiLLa69
    @GoDSkRiLLa69 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Ahriman is the G.O.A.T. One of the best characters pre/heresy and still getting up to absolute shenanigans. I always thought Lucius being a punching bag was super fitting, in all the disgusting ways you can imagine.
    Typed this out towards the intros for the champions, 100% agree obviously. All is dust.

  • @teobratuteodor1728
    @teobratuteodor1728 Před 4 měsíci +11

    Ahriman could also turn the ground in quick sand, make the gravity too strong or too weak for Kharn to move, jamm his weapons and it can also boost his strenght and durability to is a master biomancer and also have divination and diviners are described in the canonn as "unbeatable in combat" for obvious reasons how Konrad Curst was also having divination.

    • @Tortle-Man
      @Tortle-Man Před 4 měsíci +4

      I don’t think it would work. Khorne’s blessing don’t just protect spell cast against you, they also stop magic around you generally, to keep your fights fair. So I think any magic against him just wouldn’t work.

    • @teobratuteodor1728
      @teobratuteodor1728 Před 4 měsíci +1

      @@Tortle-Man in this fight no one have their god to give them extra protection what mean to Kharn will still resist but it will still be affected just less than others and the envirement around him will not be protected.

    • @kelakogreenaddict1888
      @kelakogreenaddict1888 Před 4 měsíci

      @@Tortle-Manis there any evidence that magic around Kharn doesn’t work? Flesh hounds’ being immune to psychic powers only happens on contacts, as the psychic power just gets siphoned off into the warp (happens in the ahriman omnibus)

  • @centermassgamer323
    @centermassgamer323 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Video idea, what if each loyalist primarch was sent to arrest Magnus? So instead of Russ it was Dorn or the Lion ect. Was there a loyalist that Magnus respected enough to actually talk to? Could one of them potentially brought him back to Tera?

  • @winterknight4307
    @winterknight4307 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Absolutely love the new ser up in the background, awesome!

  • @darrenengel2707
    @darrenengel2707 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I am always greatful for your videos ..I struggle to find motivation on what to paint next and your lore videos really help my process ...I thank you MajorKill , your videos and overall vibe is what we all need ❤

  • @alanolex3962
    @alanolex3962 Před 4 měsíci +5

    Little thing to potentially make you hate Lucius even more, and spoilers for The Crimson King.
    Lucius is the reason that the Rubric of Ahriman went wrong, when he told a Thousand Sons Sorcerer named Hathor Ma'at to alter the spell in the book of Magnus in return for the knowledge of how to transfer his mutations onto human serfs, effectively keeping the flesh change from overtaking him.

  • @nateinky01
    @nateinky01 Před 4 měsíci +9

    What would happen if the old heros and villains were replaced, not all at once but over time, would the setting still be just as good?

  • @poisonking
    @poisonking Před měsícem +1

    The image of Kharn running after Ahriman round and round an arena trying to catch him is fucking hilarious

    • @louisnall3102
      @louisnall3102 Před měsícem

      “COME DOWN HERE AND FIGHT ME!”
      “Come up and make me skull boy.”

  • @RogueVindicare
    @RogueVindicare Před 4 měsíci +20

    One thing about Lucius is that the reason he dies so much is because he has to make every single battle a performance and kill his enemy in the most spectacular way possible to entertain Slaanesh and because he just loves fighting and dragging fights out for the experience of it which can get him killed quite a lot from carelessness. It's been shown before that at least in 40k when he's fighting to win he's by far one of the most skilled fighters in the galaxy and definitely a better duellist than Kharn and many other Imperial Champions. I kind of like Lucius' arrogant, prideful personality and as a character I don't think you're supposed to take him seriously as he himself hardly takes anything in the galaxy seriously since it's just one big adventure for him.

    • @pgael7196
      @pgael7196 Před 4 měsíci +5

      True, by giving the writters a guy that can be "killed at will" they make him look weak. On top of this, in the tabletop game he never was quite optimal as a model.
      Yet, once you read the books (especially in40k), you realize how insane Lucius is. There are some fucked up situations in wich the CSM are like "omg we can't win this !Oh...wait ! Lucius has his sword, let's charge this fortress ! we are 11+Lucius, we like those odds."

    • @claytonthegrubkiller6430
      @claytonthegrubkiller6430 Před 4 měsíci +1

      Eh, I don't think anynone in the setting besides a Primarch and a couple of Custodians can win against Kharn in melee. The man could tear a hive tyrant to pieces in less than a minute

    • @pgael7196
      @pgael7196 Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@claytonthegrubkiller6430
      Well, Sigismund managed to do it. Therefore Sevatar would have had a chance to beat him too.
      Abaddon could, most certainly, beat him. I wouldn't be surprised to see Marneus Calgar beat Khârn, since he gave Abaddon some hard time.
      I wouldn't even be surprised to have some Blood Angels or Space wolves able to do the same.
      Nassir Amit fought in a Sanguis Extremis dual against Kharn, and it was a draw. I won't mention Valdor for obvious reasons but I'm pretty sure that more than a couple of Custodes would have a decent chance.
      Sadly Hive tyrants are somewhat like the Avatar of Khaine on that matter, they are terrifying, indeed. Yet almost every character managed to beat one or the other at some point.
      The autors don't give them justice.
      And remember, even in the books, we know that these 4 champions are monsters, blessed by the four and famous. Yet they might not even be the best chaos champions. (except Typhus for Nurgle since he is his official Herald, even Mortarion can't really command him.)
      Khârn is a beast, yes, among the bests, true.But don't overestimate the guy too much.
      I maintain : Lucius have a decent chance to win against Khârn. Lucius have basically spent the last 10k years almost exclusively chasing the most powerfull opponents he could find like a maniac, while Khârn jumped from a battlefield to another. Should they meet in a dual, I seriously doubt the fight would be as one sided as you suggest.

  • @joeyk3134
    @joeyk3134 Před 4 měsíci +5

    It doesn't matter who's most powerful because kharn is coolest

  • @epigoneofchaos4975
    @epigoneofchaos4975 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Suggestion : Best homebrew space marine chapters

  • @legio-IV-Cataphract
    @legio-IV-Cataphract Před 4 měsíci +3

    A video of the top ten community made wholesome moments would be great

  • @finnh7542
    @finnh7542 Před 4 měsíci +1

    good lordy this new lighting setup is like a 100x better. nice work majorkill!

  • @waren1x
    @waren1x Před 4 měsíci +1

    Love the new set up bro, keep up the great vids coming!

  • @kyleshurmur-dg3kq
    @kyleshurmur-dg3kq Před měsícem

    Crack me up every time I watch Ur vids man started getting into Warhammer recently so find Ur vids helpful keep the good work up geeza

  • @smoothtrooper781
    @smoothtrooper781 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Kharn has some protection against direct pysker abilities, but that wouldnt stop Ahriman from just throwing an entire baneblade or some shit at his forehead

  • @Definitely_Dave
    @Definitely_Dave Před 4 měsíci +4

    To be a Lucius fan is to be in a constant state of pain.

  • @seanhutt4621
    @seanhutt4621 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You know a lot of the time when you do these things I can't agree but this time I think you nailed it
    I put them into tiers with kharn and Ahriman tier 1 typhus tier 2 and Lucius tier 14

  • @R-YR29
    @R-YR29 Před 4 měsíci +5

    PLEASE do a video covering the new lore regarding the Emporer & Horus !!!

  • @patrickdelavega8441
    @patrickdelavega8441 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Video idea: Blood Pact explained.

  • @redalpha7284
    @redalpha7284 Před 4 měsíci +7

    Hey MajorKill, so when are making a video about the centurion power armor and it's variants?

    • @dragonrider1736
      @dragonrider1736 Před 4 měsíci

      Man, I always forget about the centurion armor class.

  • @InquisitorJoshua
    @InquisitorJoshua Před 4 měsíci +3

    Nothing more enjoyable than a character that loves themselves too much.

  • @thepeterwan
    @thepeterwan Před 4 měsíci +1

    I am agree with your comparisons, about who wins is well described but of course depends of the nature of the scenario and many other things as well. Anyways pretty well described these characters are really well written each of them and like them all , but my favorite are Arhiman because he knows a lot and he can be used to bring context as was did in the last novels. Also his background and power is amazingly useful anytime.

  • @Masquerademasque
    @Masquerademasque Před 4 měsíci

    mateeee lighting is looking good! well done

  • @crilleedara
    @crilleedara Před 4 měsíci +4

    Nice video idea, never getting tired of a good ol' "Fuck Lucius"! 😎

  • @JohnnyFiction
    @JohnnyFiction Před 4 měsíci +2

    Increase the volume a bit and add some more overall and front lit light to the setup. Great work, keep it up, you bamf

  • @TheBoneZone40k
    @TheBoneZone40k Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nah, this all tracks
    Typhus in Dark Imperium: Plague War got pushed back and technically "beaten" by a mixture of Nova Marine terminators and Grey Knights. With the Grey Knights keeping the worst of the warp born diseases from harming anyone fighting typhus until he used his psychic bullshittery.
    Ahirman is as powerful as at least like 10 unnamed Grey Knights so it makes sense.

  • @naynaysfx8940
    @naynaysfx8940 Před 4 měsíci

    Love what you do big man

  • @dinocha0s
    @dinocha0s Před 3 měsíci +2

    I mean they are all stupidly powerful, im not sure how normal Imperial soldiers and even regular space marines are going to take them down even without plot armor
    -Lucious and his stupid losing ability
    -Kharn being evil immortal doomguy
    -Typhus who controls a trillion flies and demonic plagues that turn entire planets to zombies while being tanky AF
    -OR Mr Ahriman the guy who soloed an entire eldar strike force by turning half of them harmless animals with a snap of his finger and then killing them and the using lightning bolts/fire/all sorts of magic bs to kill the other half
    I think they would win a large portion of death battles with characters from other universes

  • @40kGoldenGuardian
    @40kGoldenGuardian Před 4 měsíci

    Video idea anything custodes 💪 keep up the great work mate 👊

  • @Goyimdemduc
    @Goyimdemduc Před 4 měsíci

    Man i just know when majorkill uploads it's gonne be a great fkn time

  • @ignacygemra9306
    @ignacygemra9306 Před 4 měsíci

    Love the new studio! ❤

  • @Vantud391
    @Vantud391 Před 4 měsíci +1

    After watching The Exodite animated series, I'm curious about Tau Navy. Please make a video about them, their strategy and battles they fought against Imperium Navy.

  • @Nyghtking
    @Nyghtking Před 4 měsíci +2

    Isn't Ahriman also one of the only psykers that can destroy souls with his power?
    I remember hearing that, and typically thats something that requires a shitton of psychic might to be able to pull off as in lore there haven't been many who can do it.

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl Před 4 měsíci

    Agreed. Kind of funny that the list of favourites is the same as the rankings in a duel.

  • @mandke23
    @mandke23 Před 4 měsíci

    Video on every chaos faction war/battles such as khorne vs nurgle etc

  • @cringelord1809
    @cringelord1809 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Ah, some nice Ahriman appreciation is always welcome

  • @brickphone8069
    @brickphone8069 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Doesn’t Typhus also have like a weird warp bug colony inside him that attack people for him as well as being the only chaos champion in Terminator plate, I think he’s got a good chance at taking it though that depends on if the warp bugs attacks count as psychic attacks, and also if Ahriman has the power to disintegrate Typhus or not

  • @joshualutes6536
    @joshualutes6536 Před 3 měsíci

    I love your videos Majorkill and this one made my day by your insane ability to get me hyped for all these legendary characters in 40k. I hope you have a great day and Lucius the eternal is the greatest to ever exist 👍

  • @andrewgeldmacher4765
    @andrewgeldmacher4765 Před 4 měsíci +1

    How come no one ever mentions Saul Tarvitz when talking about Lucius most satisfying defeats. It’s one of my favorite moments of the entire heresy.

  • @SonOfHighValour
    @SonOfHighValour Před 4 měsíci

    11:14 - No, don't do that! You don't know where he's been!

  • @whitlermountain7198
    @whitlermountain7198 Před 4 měsíci

    love the new lighting/audio bugga

  • @adolfjackson25
    @adolfjackson25 Před 4 měsíci +1

    God damn the lighting has gotten so much better its insane

  • @AntiNubDevice
    @AntiNubDevice Před 6 dny

    Anyone else in on the idea of Lucius, Kharn, and Typhus just ganging up to kill the big psyker, then just having at it in a melee brawl?

  • @Alcoholfreebeer
    @Alcoholfreebeer Před 4 měsíci

    A video on the Plague Wars would be nice.

  • @krassway8472
    @krassway8472 Před 4 měsíci

    I fucking love your vs videos

  • @loveblues9633
    @loveblues9633 Před 4 měsíci +2

    I love typhus and kharn but the powers of the emperor n malcador really shows us that sorcery is extremely overpowered n he is probably the most powerful because of it, being able to destroy a planet and change reality through the warp is insane.

  • @DjamTG12345
    @DjamTG12345 Před 4 měsíci

    It would be sick to see this fight animated

  • @Historyfrek4ever
    @Historyfrek4ever Před 4 měsíci

    Kharn would only notice his kill count go up by one when he mulches Lucius.

  • @xanmontes8715
    @xanmontes8715 Před 3 měsíci +2

    So all we need is a necron warrior to kill Lucius...?

  • @pierre-olivierjanelle3413
    @pierre-olivierjanelle3413 Před 4 měsíci

    I love that we are united in hating Lucius and Erebus it’s like universal

  • @amongusgaming123
    @amongusgaming123 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Idea: What happened to the non-space marine traitors like Guardsmen, Titans and Knight houses?

  • @michaelfain6866
    @michaelfain6866 Před 4 měsíci

    A video where you talk about what the primarchs would be like if they all reached their full potential would be cool

  • @JackArmstrong-cc3ux
    @JackArmstrong-cc3ux Před 4 měsíci

    Best part of Lucius’s story was getting his nose broken by loken

  • @HeavyMetalwarGaming3970
    @HeavyMetalwarGaming3970 Před 4 měsíci

    Hell Great Video

  • @wilhelmpetzold6904
    @wilhelmpetzold6904 Před 4 měsíci

    5:48 reminds me of:
    "Is guilliman the greatest primarch?"
    "He isn´t even the greatest Ultramarine"

  • @deptusmechanikus7362
    @deptusmechanikus7362 Před 3 dny

    I wanna see Kharn fight Typhos. Unstoppable Slaughter against Indestructible Resilience

  • @gunthersunshine9418
    @gunthersunshine9418 Před 4 měsíci

    the fight between them is basicly rock paper scissors with lucius beeing air

  • @anthraxcrab3238
    @anthraxcrab3238 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Vid idea what if the emp ( maybe sanguinius too) kneeled to horus at the end of the heresy

  • @Vaille32
    @Vaille32 Před 4 měsíci

    I have to agree with the analysis of this video!

  • @ilicktrains8304
    @ilicktrains8304 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Lucius needs to be put on fraud watch ngl

  • @secondarytrollaccount666
    @secondarytrollaccount666 Před 4 měsíci

    From the hammer and bolter episode " the eternal" dude got bodied by a couple exorcists. No way hes beating kharne, arhiman, or typhus while hes busy getting clapped by skilled but non chaos infused astartes. Didnt even get killed by the chapter master either just a squad of marines while he had a squad of emperors children with him as well.

  • @moncey1120
    @moncey1120 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Can you do a video about the greatest marine of each gene line

  • @Ireland609
    @Ireland609 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Ahriman! Ahriman! Ahriman!

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 Před měsícem

    Right off the bat, a glitchy start or it might phone crapping out.

  • @CyKosys187
    @CyKosys187 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thank ypu for not wearing the shiny shirt again.. 😂😂 love the vids sir keep it up.

  • @mechanicobra
    @mechanicobra Před 4 měsíci

    Now I kinda want a Battle at Zanbaijin style short story in 40K of these four going head to head with their warbands for the amusement of their gods.

  • @alexr.5389
    @alexr.5389 Před 4 měsíci

    I personally LOVE Lucius, he is hilarious and he is constantly trying to find his way to the spotlight and finding out he's just the most powerful pawn around.

  • @derrabbit7289
    @derrabbit7289 Před 4 měsíci

    That moment when your like actually drives the number up!😃

  • @withlovefromlightindust591
    @withlovefromlightindust591 Před 4 měsíci

    Hello Majorkill,
    Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.

  • @euanjnigoselorio9438
    @euanjnigoselorio9438 Před 4 měsíci

    Kharn- Very Angry BOI
    Typhus- the Guy Who didn't take a shower
    Lucius- Guy who Keeps losing
    Ahriman- The Book Nerd

  • @grayrook8637
    @grayrook8637 Před 4 měsíci

    Been a while since he did a death match video. I want one on the Pheonix Lord's and why it's probably Maghan Ra.

  • @loaf6700
    @loaf6700 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Heres how the 4 way battle would go.
    3 warriors enter an arena. Notice I said 3 and not 4. Kharn, who refuses to put down his axes, cant open the door and gets pissed and goes the opposite direction.
    Ahriman quickly pulls out a book of spells but quickly realizes its the wrong book. Tzeentch swapped his spellbook for a cookbook because it would be really funny. He claims he'll be "right back".
    Lucius leaps at Typhus and unleashes a flurry of strikes but all they do is tickle Typhus' fat belly. In the melee, Lucius accidently swallows one of the flies following Typhus and begins to choke. Typhus attempts the heimlich maneuver but accidently snaps Lucius spine which paralyzes him.
    Typhus wins but hes so fat he actually couldnt see what was going on so he has no idea there even was a fight.
    Kharn found the door operator and killed him.
    Arhiman actually enjoyed the cookbook and started vox channel about cooking.
    Lucius was wheelchair bound and everyone actually pittied him until it turns out he was faking it the whole time.

  • @Galaxybreaker97
    @Galaxybreaker97 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nice vid