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Pro tipp to learn hungarian: born in Hungary
I'll take note for my next life. Thanks!
Akkor mondd meg, hogy pörköltet vagy pörköltöt, vörösek vagy vörösök és miért.
Jó tip, for english ones good tip
@@redactedcanceledcensored6890 Zsemle, Zsömle, Zsemlye vagy Zsömlye, pick your poison
Another pro tip: don’t
As a Hungarian it was so funny to watch how much you suffer with our language. But seriously, you did a really good job. Respect. Gratulálok, hogy sikerült megtanulnod a magyar nyelv alig egy tized részét!😂
Én még magyarként se értem sokszor a nyelvtan szabályokat, úgy hogy elsem merem képzelni hogy ő mit értene belőle és hogy mennyi idő lenne míg valamit értene belőle
*ezred
@@Falra_hanyt_bors_s_so ha fizetnének se... érettségi óta nem foglalkoztam komolyabban nyelvtannal... a lelki terrorom volt amikor egy olyan főnököt kaptam, akinek viszont ez volt a mániája
@@Falra_hanyt_bors_s_so Akkor fizess, mondta a videóban hogy a tárgy jön először, stb.. nagyon is képben van vele.
amugy tényleg nehéz ez a nyelv
I loved every single reaction, meme, word pronounced, and just the general madness in this video...
Glad to hear that! It was quite a rollercoaster
While word order matters, even if you switch it up people will still understand what you are trying to say, I myself do it often as a native speaker, in both languages, especially since i use english more than hungarian, the "downside" is you will just sound more like Yoda. (whom as a fun fact George Lucas made a hungarian technican on set translate his lines to sound more "exotic")
Yeah, English word order is quite set, altering it is mostly poetic and artistic. But that's one the advantages of noun cases, in English "The boy eats the cheese" and "the cheese eats the boy" are two completely different things, while in Hungarian you would still know who really ate what.
@@jccbm not really a sajt a fiút vagy a fiú a sajtot do not mean the same what you mean you could say a fiút a sajt vagy a sajtot a fiú
@@jccbm Basicly, the emphasis of the sentence is in front of the verb.
A fiú sajtot eszik. - The boy eats cheese (and not anything else).
Sajtot eszik a fiú. - It is cheese the boy eats.
A fiú eszik sajtot. - It is the boy who eats cheese. (If you put emphasis on the _eszik_ this can also mean The boy does eat cheese.)
Sajtot a fiú eszik (és nem a lány). - It is the boy who eats the cheese (and not the girl).
Eszik sajtot a fiú. - The boy does eat cheese.
And all the above work as questions as well :)
The possibilities are endless...
Szerintem az “a fiú megeszi a sajtot” és “a sajtot megeszi a fiú” esetére gondolt
Respect, this dude tried to learn hungarian and actually managed to go pretty far in just 4 hours. Bonus points for almost never mis-pronouncing a word, one of the cleanest foreign speakers I've ever heard.
he almost always mis-pronounced the words what are you talking about
I loved the cut-in sequences, and your pronunciation is actually better than most foreigners, you made it further than most would have. Congrats from Hungary, my man!
Edit: Yes, you literally can do nearly anything with the order of the words in Hungarian and it'll probably make sense.. EXCEPT FOR WHEN IT DOESN'T ;-;
Glad you liked it! Thanks.
Not realy anything ... you can change it up (sometimes), but it will change the emphasis.
After my 19 years in Hungary sometimes even I don't know whath the hell is going on. And also, there are a bunch of words that mean the same or similar things, and let's not even get started on synonyms.
Yes I sucked at grammar back in school and I still sometimes mistake "j" any "ly"
@@sued_ lots of hungarians mess it up too. And I know it's not a big deal, but it infuriates me :D
@@sued_ As a Hungarian, I have to say even I am confused sometimes. I do not have a problem with synonyms, I think it's really cool that we have like 70 words for the male genitalia, but the "j" and "ly" haunts me to this day. I've seen wars forming on how you write the word "muszáj". (The correct form is "j").
"János ritkán lát szép ügyvédeket." 😂
Fent van mind a jános hegyen, egész délután őt várták
alap mondat
"Férfiak vagyunk, nem ügyvédek" :D Kritika! :D :D :D
There's enough funny parts here I might have to rewatch both parts and ranks the memes. Pain sure brings out your best humor.
Hahaha if you end up doing it, send me the results. I'm curious to know which ones you like the most! And yeah, fortunately my pain can be transformed into entertainment!
"fák. That's how I feel right now" jccbm 2022
Oh boy, even when tired and frustrated jccbm is entertaining as heck lmao. I am hyped for the next one, because that one I skipped and didn't watch live, so it will be a new experience to me.
It was a moment of honest and true vulnerability
@@jccbm And DL is not using this word "fakanál" not by chance. There is a joke with this word and one of its character is a big black soldier when they were here in Taszár base.
@@gaglikabar DON'T tell it!!! :D :D :D (What was that?)
After spending 4 hours on a "crash course" in Hungarian, which has one of the most difficult grammar system in the world, you are able to have basic conversations. You did something truly remarkable. As a native speaker of this language, I had grammar classes from elementary all along to the matura exams. Grammar counts for a good chunk of the percentage you reach on the written tests/exams. I bow my head before your effort and achievement, you are amazing!
Thanks a lot for the kind words! It makes me happy that people around the world can enjoy my experience too! You're amazing too. Cheers!
I watched your fourth video in the past few days. I have to say, I have never seen anyone who could grasp and sense the rules of the Hungarian language as quickly as you. Hungarian is an incredibly logical language and at the same time one of the most flexible in the world. Its grammar is highly structured, but much more complex than in other languages in general. The word order of sentences carries additional layers of meaning. The further forward a word is in a sentence, the more emphasis it carries. What is more important from a semantic point of view is placed earlier in the word order. It can be very difficult to understand and sense this for those whose native language is not Hungarian.
So, congratulations on your achievements. It's impressive how you do it. And as a Hungarian, these videos are incredibly entertaining. Thank you! Keep up the good work. And I wasn't just referring to Hungarian. You produce very entertaining content. Respect!!
Thanks! It makes me extremely happy to hear people enjoy it. It's been a fun ride here on CZcams
I wouldn't wish learning Hungarian upon my worst enemy. So... good job :'D
Thanks! It was fun though
Just tell them to pronounce this Hungarian tongue twister:
"Nem minden szarka farka tarka. Csak a tarka farkú szarka farka tarka."
(Not all magpies have multicolored tails. Only the tail of multicolored magpies are multicolored.)
Have a good day 😄
@@Aurea_Borealis it's actually Nem minden fajta szarka farka tarkabarka, csak a tarkabarka fajta farkú szarka farka tarkabarka.
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 This is harder
@@potatosalad68 Like a lot LOT harder
In Hungarian with word order you can define what you want the weight to be put on. You can specify the importance of things but actually many times they mean totally different things:
A kutya húst eszik. = The dog is eating meat.
Húst eszik a kutya. = It is meat that the dog eats (and not something else).
Eszik húst a kutya. = Meat is something that the dog eats. Like you specify that it is a normal thing for a dog to eat meat... why wouldn't it eat meat?
A kutya eszik húst. = The dog eats meat. Could be when someone offers you meat and you respond with saying that it is not you but dogs that eat meat.
Also with what intonation you say one sentence matters too, they can alter the meaning..
But as a foreigner you can get away with not being able to conjure up a sentence with exactly the right word order for that exact thing you want to say or correct intonation. We will read from the context.
Hungarian is a pretty "natural" language, it is more intertwined with reality.. I guess. I have no fcking clue what i am talking about.
Wow those are great examples. It's so interesting though. In English you would probably use some sort of tone to make the differentiation, or completely change the sentence or even just use facial expressions.
Hungarian word order is
(Topic +) Focus + Verb + Everything else
A kutya húst eszik = Speaking about the DOG (topic), MEAT[acc] (focus) EATS (verb)
This is either the default sentence OR a reply to someone questioning whether the dog's food consists entirely of meat
Húst a kutya eszik = Speaking about the MEAT[acc] (topic), the DOG (focus) EATS (verb)
This is a reply to someone questioning who eats meat (this is the same as the fifth one, but it sounds like "ACHCKCHUALLY")
Húst eszik a kutya = MEAT[acc] (focus) EATS (verb) the dog
This is a reply to someone asking what the dog doin'
Eszik húst a kutya = EATS (focus and verb) meat[acc] the dog
This is a reply to someone who questions whether dogs eat meat
A kutya eszik húst = the DOG (focus) EATS (verb) meat[acc]
This is a reply to someone asking who eats meat
I can only hope that I haven't made a mistake somewhere
Edit: I have.
@@Kasamori Thanks for that breakdown.
Throughout the years sometimes I have found some texts written in Hungarian by someone who actually delved deep into the language and it's nature... and the wizardry and beauty one could conjure up with this language is fascinating. As a native speaker I am far far from that..
@@Kasamori "Eszik húst a kutya." sounds dumb and unnatural in most contexts
@@redactedcanceledcensored6890 Which is why you only use it when it's applicable, almost never.
Jokes aside it sounds pretty cool, congrats on getting through it!
Thanks! It's an achievement that deserves being written in my gravestone. "This man tried to learn Hungarian"
@@jccbm😂
Dude, even as a Hungarian, just watching you solve these nonsensical sentences were bloody frustrating. Truly awful lesson. Bless the youtube algorithm for recommending you tho, the editing and the memes were very entertaining. Laughed way too much. Keep it up, man 👍
Hahaha glad you enjoyed it. Duolingo is a bit weird, but the nonsense makes it funny and engaging imo
4:52 I want men 🙏
Duo being Duo
Relatable
Gratulálunk az első egység befejezéséhez😈
Következő fejezet: "Káromlások" 0/12 lesson
@@sued_igaz igaz..
@@sued_ Inkább 0/38
"Living Ironically in Europe" made a good video on why you shouldn't learn Hungarian and gave a good explanation on the word order / sentence format. So it's basically 2 dimensional and it changes based on what you want to say. Which means that a sentence constructed from the same words can have multiple grammatically correct orders, but with different meaning.
To be honest duolingo is on crack... As a hungarian I would say, duolingo makes learing hungarian way harder then it should be. Especially words... If you learn basic nouns it will be a lot easier to learn the complex ones. Like rendőr, it comes from rend (order) and őr (guard) if you learn those biasic ones, the complex one became easy to learn.
The equivalent of each vowel for non-hungarians:
High and low(makes no sense but when you form the word with your mouth you want to move it up/down)
a:same as "a" in "call"
á:same as "i" as in "file"
e: "e" in "ten"
é: same as the "é" in café
Short and long
i: i in "hit"
í: "ee" "fleet"
o: o in "hot" or "pot"
ó: as in "go" or "low"
ö: "herd" with really short duration
ő: "bird" with longer duration
u: as in "put"
ú: as in "boot"
ü: like the german "ü" with short duration
ű: like the german über with long duration
I can't really find a good example of the hungarian 'a' sound in the english language, in every word I can think of including call a lot of english speakers wouldn't pronounce a that way, more like a hungarian 'o'.
@@IDontHaveAMonocle hard :(
@@IDontHaveAMonocleBasically you say it like how you moan but less erotic😂
11:25 you can basically interchange the words within a sentence but you are saying differint things. For example if you say "szeretem a sajtot" you are affirming that "I like cheese" but if you say "a sajtot szeretem" that means that you put a contrast, a reference that you like cheese RATHER than something else. Same for the first sentence "finom a sajt" = "the cheese is delicious" vs "a sajt finom" = you highlight the cheese to be much more appropriated than something else. Hope this makes some sence in this hard language.
I'm so happy you got TREES in an example, you really needed it! ❤ And you have great potential in the pronunciation, honestly! I think a few rounds of teniszütő and gyöngytyúk would do the trick ;)
As a Hungarian, it was hilarious to watch. Your pronouncination is amazing. Congrats
Thanks! I'm happy to hear it was enjoyable
True
Thank you for your perseverance. You made me laugh so hard and so long it hurts. Best wishes from Hungary.
11:15 YES! Excellent observation. It is, indeed. It's all about emphasis and focus. If you'd like to emphasize something, or to make a connection between things, then you put the word ahead in the sentence.
Loved the Blue Danube part :)
Quite fitting!
Bro- i basically found this channel yesterday and ive seen a bunch of your speedruns, keep at it dude- :)
(ive been trying to learn german and you speed running it so quickly left me speechless.)
Im exited to see you learn spanish (I speak it), ive fallen in love with this series.
Goodluck with finishing every single language duo has :)))
also the references on your videos are insanely funny-
I'm extremely happy to hear that! Hope you keep enjoying them. I know Spanish too, so it'll be a very fast paced one!
OO okay,
I can't wait to see it :]
Good job dude!!! It was a tough battle but you persevered!!! Hell yeah! Congrats from Hungary 🇭🇺
Me waiting for the inevitability of Klingon
samee
👀
nuqneH
Qapla'!
toH
Don't worry buddy we're very happy.
Good pronunciation all around, well done, especially on the hard ones like gy ny ty
That was awesome dude! 4 hours, nice.
You just beated the tutorial level of my language. :D
Haha, loved the Blue Danube, almost sounds like you got the hang of it.
I mean, the last exercises went by pretty fast. After the 3 hour mark I think you can get the pace of it 😅
This was a very fun and funny ride, thank you for it :) And your pronunciation was not that bad either.
Dude the seal scene was so funny! Holy shit! I just found your channel and you gained a new sub! Sok sikert kívánok neked! Hajrá! :)
Congrats man, you got through it better than most would have. Hungarian has quite the reputation for being really hard to learn, but watching all 3 vids I have to say you did quite well. As for your question on word order, yes you can kinda mix and match, but putting something forward is often used for emphasis, for example:
Keresek egy autót - I am looking for a car.
Egy autót keresek - A car is what I'm looking for
Indeed we are very happy you were learning some hungarian. These were the first videos I saw from you, and it was extremely entertaining! :D Because of the difficulty and uniqueness of hungarian, it is also hard for us to start learning new languages. Everything is just so dissimilar, and has completely different rules, whereas if you already know English, all the other germanic languages are way easier for example.
Szia! Én magyar vagyok, és nagyon örülök hogy valaki azért belekóstol (megézi), hogy mi is ez a magyar nyelv. Nagyon jót szórakoztam, de tanulságos is volt! Köszönöm!
Man, you are a legend. Not just because you put so many effort to learn, but the video edit with all those meme snippets, flawless. And as others already said, you pronounced most of the words perfectly. You can clearly see now, that Hungarian is so different than other languages and why it is hard to learn, but it is true for the opposite direction too, we have difficulties to learn other languages for the same reason. E.g. in English, if we overcome the non gender neutrality and the fixed word order, it is still confusing how to pronounce some words, since we have phonetic alphabet, and basically what you see is what you get. Of course International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) can be handy, but it would be much easier to read what you see and don't think about how to pronounce it. Why on earth the word "color" written with "c" if you pronounce it as "k" and why on earth the "w" exists if you pronounce the same as "v"? It seems redundant and doesn't logical at all.
as a hungarian i get it why did it take so long for you to get there xdd and your pronunciation was really good, i was surprised. congtrats !! :)
This was a fun series to watch :) Your pronunciation is good. /Just sent the links to my native English speaker boyfriend :DDD
It was an awesome series and you was pretty great. Respect! And btw, the world cheese is translated to "sajt". Greetings from Hungary!
First of all I excitedly cheered on along with you. Thank you for this video.
You don't want to know this, but the hungarian sentences have diferent meanings based on the order of the words. Aaaand also the meaning can change based on wich part of the sentence is stressed. So you have a sentence that is written. Based on that you cannot be sure what the other person means. We analyse sentences in school. We analyse poems in schools. Here is an example (sorry):
Iskolába mentem. (no stress) I went to scool (once or with the purpose of going to school).
Iskolába mentem. (stress on "iskolába") I went to school (e. g. not to a hospital, once or with the purpose of going to school).
Iskolába mentem. (stress on "mentem") I went to scool (e. g. I wasn't carried, once or with the purpose of going to school).
Mentem iskolába. (no stress) I went to scool (in my life or in general).
Mentem iskolába. (stress on "mentem") I went to scool (in my life or in general, but I reassure you that I did do so).
Mentem iskolába. (stress on "iskolába") I went to scool (in my life or in general, not e. g. to a hospital)
I am 67% sure that that is correct.
Also the I is locked in "mentem", but you can "free" it and you can play with it or regret that you were born in Hungary at a grammar test.
Again: sorry!
If you are still here, here is a cookie. It is elutasíthatatlanul jummy.
Thanks! I like the fact that you're 67% sure 🤣
Elismerendő és tisztelendő, hogy tanulod a mi nyelvünket szerintem egész jól tudod, de a mi nyelvünk sokkal összetettebb mint amit itt mutat ez a játék és nemis mindig fogalmaz jól, de örülök, hogy vetted erre a fáratságot :)
(De még rengeteg különleges és nehéz szavunk van. Mind a három videó jó lett :) )
Te meg tanulj meg magyarul:D
Great video, very talented!
Great editing
Learning the Hungárian language for someone who's not grown up with it as the motherlanguage, it will be a hard long ride without a sattle 😉😁🇭🇺
Duolingo actually teaches 3 additional languages. There is a Spanish to Catalan course, a Spanish to Guarani course, and a Chinese to Cantonese course. Ballsy but extra challenging
Edit: I saw you already did Catalan and Guarani in other places just not in this series. But Mandarin to Cantonese is stupid hard
It will be in this series though, just don't tell anyone 👀
@@jccbm Awesome!!!
I might be a bit late, but Mandarin means Clementine in Hungarian.
@@NinjonLazarus In Spanish too, but it's female (Mandarina)
@@jccbm Cool, thx for the info.
just 2:01 in and I literally laughed out loud! 🙂
The pain is real, bro, the pain is real... 😆
😅
Cheese = Sajt in hungarian
I beg your pardon? No one will call cheese like that in this household!
Proud that you pushed through... Duolingo is a nice introduction to any language, but yeah... Hungarian be a B in the A. Now time to watch you do Hebrew (studied that one too back in the day and hated that one just as much... hard AF)
exceptionally good work, and for that you've only "spoke" it for 4 hours, your pronunciation is legit.. source-> native speaker here
Thanks! 😃
Yes, we are always happy to see people suffering by our language. :D We are barely known worldwide, so it's nice and funny, when others are trying out or beautiful language. Anyway, you did a great job! ^^ Ours are a hard one with the complicated grammar, but after you got into it, you can see, how everything makes sense. Well... almost everything. XD At least we don't say "raining cats and dogs" you know... we say "raining as if it poured from a bin" HMPH! XD
Wow, those example sentences, man. XD Duo's really doing his job. :D
This was hilarious😂 Your pronunciation is good👍
At 15:51 the word order is wrong because although it doesn’t metter at most cases, when it comes to questions or negatives, the word order changed the meaning slightly. You have to take into account what the “nem” is referring to. The negation should be next to what we deny. The sentence is denying we are inside but not that we are chatting. So “nem” and “bent” sticks together. “Nem beszelgetek bent” means when im inside im not chatting.
nice vid man
it was funny hearing you as a native speaker
MAGYARORSZÁG!!!!
8:42 even in hungarian that scentence is fuked up.
I appreciate your endurance. It was a hard work. And the word for cheese is 'sajt' in Hungarian.
As a Hungarian, some of these sentences are really strange XD I would put some indefinite articles here and there, tbh. Also. Pro tipp: word order is not set in stone. Changing the word order, mainly bringing something to the front puts emphasis on a different word or expression.
If only I was there during the stream. I could've told you that cheese is "sajt" in Hungarian. Anyway, good job for learning like, not even a tenth of the language! 👍
when I was in third grade, one of my friends had more mistakes than the number of words the teacher dictated
To answer your question yes, format is VERY flexible, it usually just changes the emphasis slightly. Hazasétálok a kutyával (I'm WALKING HOME with the dog) vs A kutyával sétálok haza (I'm walking home WITH THE DOG).
9 lessons is a lot
I usually complain when it's 4-5 🤣 so yeah, that was quite a b**ch
tetszik a próbálkozás de 17 év alatt nem tudtam megtanulni a saját nyelvem én sem, de sok sikert
Congrats from Hungary, this language is hard for everyone except for the people whose language comes from the ural mountains. The order of the words the o ó ö ő and the u ú ü ű, a á, e é and stuff like that are hard to pronounce and learn. And yes every order of words pretty much has a different meaning (but sometimes it isnt really a sentence that has a meaning if you put the words in a certain order ). Again, well done from Hungary
Hello mate! as a native Hungarian i can tell that non of these sentences has been said before. Minden tiszteletem azért mert tanulod a nyelvünket. Ha szeretnéd küldök pár videót magyarul:) Béke!
There's always a first time, right?
Underrated 💯/10
Hungarian is the best language. There is no better and more logical language than hunragian.
Szeretet Magyarországból!!❤❤❤
You probably would enjoy the Klingon episodes. It's very similar in terms of the logic behind it!
You definitely werent prepared for Hungarian :D Its so funny how our language is so unique, yet you can imagine how hard it can be to learn another language for us. Good job tho!
I was missing the Hungarian horntail from the Harry Potter memes, but all in all good job!
11:15 Exactly. I can say:
Pista bemegy reggel a hazba
Reggel Pista bemegy a házba
A házba megy be reggel Pista
Bemegy Pista reggel a házba
And it all means the same, the only difference is what you put in the focus of your sentence
I, as a native speaker, completely agree on how overly complicated the language is with you.
I can't wait to see how you like Esperanto
Congratilation. You did it. It was a hard run. Your pronounciation is almost perfect. By the way: how does hungarian sound to a foreign person? Is it strange, ugly, hard, rude, soft, nice, exotic language?
Thanks! To be 100% honest, it sounds pretty normal, not too simple, not too weird. The sounds are not extremely hard, very well balanced in terms of vowels and consonants, I would say it's towards the softer side, quite melodic. It is naturally strange, since it's unrelated to other nearby languages, but I think it's quite nice overall.
@@jccbmThank You. Now I know what others feel when they listen to hungarian speach.
What an endurance run! I'm Hungarian, and I'm very impressed. It probably didn't help that many of the sentences made no sense, like "azok az óvónők a városok fölött vannak".
It makes it funnier, which helps me remember. So it ain't that bad I guess 🤣
"Csak lebegnek ott" :D (konkrétan ez jutott az eszembe erről a mondatról)
"They just floating there" (that's what came to my mind about this sentence)
10:58 masiniszta = engineer/ train driver/ engine driver
Its big brain language! You get smarter while learning or trying!🤣
Maaan, you are fighting. Sorry but it's so funny to see you suffer. I just want to say that, even hungarians are suffering... If I wouldn't be hungarian I wouldn't learn it, so RESPECT.
Just to add, yes, you can change the order of the words, but the stress will be on the first phase. And you are just getting into grammar. We sometimes just have so fucked up logic (but still somehow it just makes sense at the same time), but on the other hand I feel like this language just gives me so much freedom.
I love it, but at the same time...
I wanna cry sometimes too... I feel you.
I'm happy that you looked into our unique language and thought process. I hope someday you will continue.
Wishing you more luck with other ones.
15:17 Klingon is not actually as hard as it seems to be, it's just different, but once you get þe rules you can learn it easily
So esperanto easy, hebrew hard, klingon somewhere in þe middle
Nice "þ", Icelandic?
@@jccbm Nah, it's þorn
@@etruscanetwork Don't speak about thornography! ;)
@jccbm You've absolutely nailed it, dude! The Hungarian course is spoilt by those exreme sentences that are gibberish even if you understand every words. The levitating kindergarten teachers and the postal workers (postmen, guys! Postpersons if you want to be so funky PC!) make it so extremely difficult. These examples even ruin the learners' ability to pay attention to the structures they learn. When the course started I tried to give some support but even I was confused by the sentences that had nothing to do with any kind of real world scene or usability. Thinking funny helps learning. But thinking stupid doesn't.
Yay new speedrun this hungary speedrun is so long 😮
Waaaay too much
We are all proud of you ❤️🇭🇺
Yes, hungarian language is very flexible wiht the orders of the words. It is only dependent on what do you want to highlite in the sentence
11:16 - yes, somewhat flexible, but not always:
A sajt finom. = Finom a sajt, it is totally the same, but the 2nd format is used much more often. First format would be used if: The cheese is fine (but not the apple) = A sajt finom, de az alma nem. And there are also slight differences when which to use, depending on the situation.
Szeretem a sajtot: I like cheese. A sajtot szeretem: Cheese is what i like (not i.e. apple) - emphasis is on cheese.
as a Hungarian I can't tell you how much i enjoyed this
The order of words (In lot of cases) can be changed. but it changes the emphasis or meaning alltogether.
11:01 those are the guys who drive the old locomatives
I'm a masiniszta (train driver), and I don't find this offensive.
Great job man. Keep up the good work. Or.. Keep the good work up? Or... Work up the keep good? Can you do anything with the order? :P
Hahahah nice to hear that! Thanks. And no, unfortunately English is kinda strict with order. Things can sound very weird and wrong if you change the order
a-á and e-é change the actual sound, the rest of the accent marks only change length (historically á and é used to be just long a and e (and they still function as just those in terms of grammar) but they ended up changing for some reason idk)
Ngl duolingo has some weird example sentences like some of them you'd not really use in any actual conversation. Anyway props to you for going through the course.
The order of words are usually really flexible in Hungarian but it can sound strange when its not used correctly. I had foreign friends who have learnt Hunagrian and you could tell they weren't native because of the grammar order mistakes. (Also the pronunciation is hard for them) We will understand what you try to say though.
Also the order define what you try to say exactly. These are mostly nuances but each correct order means something different.
You inspired me to learn a new language
Believe me, Klingon will be MUCH WORSE
What makes you say that? 😔
Congrats from Hungary! 🎉
5:43 This sounded awfully like an exaggerated accent of _a minority_ the members of which _do indeed often stand behind the railway station_ . Lmao.
8:06 well, I can be happy, but I think I'm rather proud of you
RESPECT :)
Congrats, I saw all 3 videos. Yes they say our language is hard, they say... Fun fact: the japanes grammar is very close to our 😅. Good luck with that too!
I do five courses parallel in Duolingo, but I swear that Hungarian for English speakers have the strangest sentences of all. A couple of years ago it was even more fricked up. Everyone was able to learn, that the kindergarten teachers can fly here :D
I am Hungarian, and completed it just for fun.
If no one has told you about word order yet, please read this: You put emphasis on what is important in your sentence. I give you an example from your video.
Szeretem a sajtot - I like cheese means: That you LIKE cheese. The focus is on the act of what is your opinion of cheese.
A sajtot szeretem - I like cheese means: CHEESE what is you like. The focus is on the type of thing you like.
A better example for this structure is this: A sajtot választom - I choose the cheese. CHEESE what you choose over all the other stuff, the main hero here is the cheese.
The confusion you feel is because in both sentences CHEESE is the OBJECT of the sentence, but the EMPHASIS / the TOPIC is entirely different.
Most Hungarians put this emphasis to the beginning of a sentence with the word they want to emphasize. If you learn this language, you should do this too.
I hope I could help you get a glimpse of this at least, or anyone else who tries their hardest to learn this language. Good luck!
Thanks for the explanation! Very useful
This is only true to an extent: even English changes the sentences based on emphasis but that's more about adding or removing words than changing their order.
Szeretem a sajtot. - I like cheese.
A sajtot szeretem. - Cheese is what I like.
This is mostly because in Hungarian a lot of words or parts of words used for grammar are often invisible or are a part of another word whereas in English they usually are all present and stand apart.