Start doing this & shorten your emergency braking distance
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- This week we look at an easy technique to make your motorcycle stops more efficient and can actually shorten the distance you can stop a motorcycle in an emergency.
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Dude, you are an incredible asset to the motorcycling community.
I need to hear these thing over and over. Thanks
There are 2 things that would help with the wrist positioning - lever angle and your fingers' position.
1. Adjust the brake lever angle to match your forearm's position. My lever tilts slightly downward. On my bicycle, they're almost vertical (pointing downward, of course :) )
2. Learn to ride with having your index and middle fingers on the brake lever at all times (placing the fingers on the lever also helps setting the correct angle for you).
Great point on reaction time to get brakes engaged. And for us senior riders, every tenth of a second makes a difference.
I think of this advice often since I ride a DCT so don't have the clutch to help.
I failed my UK MOD 1 test first time around because of this. I thought it was my glove, but now I know what really happened! Time to check my wrist position.
simple, but makes sense on a small change that can have big results!
The Basic Rider Course I took years ago taught us (virtually beat into us) to cover both levers with all eight fingers (four each) while riding. It took practice, but it comes naturally now.
Man this tip is gold! I'm not a new rider. I've been riding for almost 10 years now and haven't had this kind of situation for years. I was convinced that rolling on the throttle was an only beginners mistake until I did it a few days ago. Wasn't a dangerous situation but quite tense. Several very loud Police cruisers out of nowhere got to the intersection I was crossing and that startled me while braking to give them way. I rolled on my throttle badly which delayed my stop. Couldn't believe I made such silly mistake right in front of cops. Maybe they didn't even realize my mistake and if they did it wasn't important at that moment when they were rushing in an emergency. Anyway I was pretty ashamed and clueless about how could that happened and now I have a good explanation thanks to this video. Very appreciated Sir!
Hey Kevin, thanks for using metric as well as imperial in the video. It's very helpful.
Thank you for sharing this lesson, your efforts have prevented accidents and have save countless lives.
They went over this years ago at the MSF class, but I think I have gotten complacent until I finally heard it again. Another excellent video.
I've been riding 40 years. Never thought about what you described. Never too late to learn!
Great tip never really realized it but sometimes i find the throttle open when stopping and now i know why! Time to break the bad habit
I'm a returned rider and as such keep reminding myself that I am as such, a beginner.
I did exactly this today. Fortunately I didn't panic. Just stopped and to hell with the noise. I'll take care about my wrist position now I know.
Thanks for the video. Aside from the wrist position you mentioned, I have always preferred to constantly cover the brake lever with two fingers. That technique has saved me from tough situations (pedestrians running in front of me, cars suddenly making a left turn, etc).
Bang on! I have small hands and am always conscious of ensuring I am aligned to activate the brake as easily and quickly as possible. I cover the brake in traffic and on twisties and only ride four fingers wrapped when on a truly empty stretch of road.
Using the clutch and stopping without downshifting will shorten your stop time
pulling the clutch in takes the flywheel momentum off the brakes, so yes you will stop faster if you pull the clutch in
but downshifting has nothing to do with what your right hand and right foot are doing on the brakes
if you are in a collision avoidance situation you need to be downshifting as you stop, because the situation may change and you need to power out of harms way. If you get down to 20 mph and you are still in 5th gear, you could be screwed
practice practice practice everytime you ride when no one is behind you at a stop sign or red light
@@kenwittlief255 Spot on advice man! ride safe.
I did that exact thing during the MSF course, minus letting out the clutch. Still caught me off guard real good.
Seemed like very basic stuff but I was surprised to hear about the impact of hand position on stopping distance. Good content well presented. Thanks!
My MSF instructor taught us that your knuckles should be above your wrist. This will prevent you from throttling too much by accident.
Guys who want to become a motorcyclist often come to me for advice because I've been riding for many years. They ask me, "is it hard to ride a motorcycle?" My answer, "no... anyone can ride a motorcycle. The problem is, not everyone can stop a motorcycle!" Panic is a hell of a drug!
Good advice for those new to motorcycling, I suppose, however I've never encountered this, never heard anybody mention it and until this very moment, I never knew that anybody needed this advice. Still, it is good to cover all situations because proper braking is so vitally important if one wants to live to ride. If people, including new riders, would just follow your advice and practice, practice, practice, they will soon learn for themselves where to have their wrist.
Makes sense. You always make sense. Thats why I keep on watching! Best of everything Kevin and I'll see you on the road.
It happened to me when taking the MFS class, I always wondered what happened.. I finally got the answer. Now that I know what & why it happened, I’ll be much more careful with my wrist position.. Thank you.. you just got another subscriber..!
I wish riding schools would teach the method I use. Fourth finger and index finger cover the front brake. Ring finger and pinky operate the throttle. Using this technique saves precious time as you can immediately and smoothly apply increasing and gradual front brake smoothly. At the same time the larger fingers are applying front brake, the smaller fingers rotate forward with our wrist and close the throttle. The schools all teach new riders to operate the throttle and front brake with 4 fingers. This causes a time lag between braking and response time and also tends to make riders want to stab quickly at the brake lever, which is not smooth on the suspension. Bad technique in my opinion. Kevin I find your videos excellent and appreciate all you do to teach safe riding.
They teach 4 finger braking because it ensures that novices release the throttle before applying the brake.
I prefer using my index and middle fingers to cover the front brake when I have traffic around me and for general braking. My ring finger naturally bends when the index finger is extended, so for me that wouldn't be comfortable.
All good info, but as soon as you pull in your clutch it doesn't matter what you're doing with the throttle as it's disengaged. Yes, keep your wrist flat when you first grab the throttle, but get in the habit of pulling in the clutch in an emergency.
This could be the simplest...yet most important thing I've seen in forever. Thank you.
i have been watching my wrist position lately during rides - not watching literally but keeping it in mind. going to pay more attention now because sometimes it is elevated and i have to force it down
I wish dealers would adjust the brake and clutch lever positions to set up the new rider properly on their machine and thus promote the proper wrist positioning.
Thanks so much for this, I have been really struggling with this issue. My problem is exacerbated by my '71 BMW's cable brakes, incorrect wrist position was also preventing me from applying optimum pull on those brakes. But now that I've seen this along with your F/R brakes instructions, I feel like I have something to practice on...thanks again!
I was looking for this answer and you finally gave it to me!!
Thanks a million and as someone commented earlier, you are an asset to the MC community
Had to subscribe
Back to basics…what wisdom!
It’s funny, though, watching this video made me stop and think, because I hadn’t really consciously considered starting wrist position when engaging the throttle grip. Indeed, for many more years than I care to admit to, I have been engaging the throttle exactly as Kevin described as the correct technique-wrist level to the ground upon when the throttle is fully closed.
It did make me go out to my garage and check on just how much twist is required to engage the throttle. My two bikes are a 2014 Kawasaki Concours and a 2005 Goldwing, and on each of them the degrees of turn from fully closed throttle to fully open throttle is only 90 degrees-1/4 of a turn of the throttle grip. If I engaged the throttle with my wrist in a vertical position, and turned it the full 90 degrees that Kevin demonstrated, I would be opening the throttle to its fully opened position. If that’s the technique that some beginners are using, it’s no wonder that during an emergency stop they accidentally red-line the engine RPMs. It only takes about 4 or 5 degrees (or about 5 percent) of turn to rev the engine to a sufficiently high level to start from a stop on my two bikes. If I fully opened the throttle, red-lining the engine RPMs, and dumped the clutch, I would likely lose control of the motorcycle.
This also makes me wonder how beginners are tempted to think they need to use this incorrect technique. Could it have something to do with learning on small bikes with 250cc engines, single-digit torque and low HP that require higher engine revs to minimize the possibility of stalling the engine on starting out? I just wonder…
Nevertheless, thanks, Kevin for making me think back to basics!! :-)
Great show. I watched last weeks show when you talked about when was the last time we as riders have practiced emergency braking. I thought about that and told myself I needed to practice. I did and this week on my way to work 4 deer ran out in front of me and 1 deer decided to run in the direction of my travel. Accident avoided and this weeks show is a great reminder to me about my wrist position. I've gotten sloppy about it and I will adjust. Thanks for all you do!
Thanks Kevin, had not thought of this, in fact, I had to go for a ride to try it out! I guess I have always started with a flat wrist, so that's good! God bless and stay safe.
Thanks Kevin, such an important advise for a serious problem and such a simple solution to it but you have to engrave it in your brain!! See you on the road!!
Another method I’d you have anti-lock breaks (which most bikes do these days) is to keep one finger loosely on the break and clutch at all times to reduce reaction delays. Then in an emergency situation, pull on the break while pulling on the clutch. Even if the engine revs, no harm with the clutch released. And the anti-lock breaks will prevent a low side crash.
Good tip Sir. I have been riding dirt so long that I have 1 or 2 fingers on the front brake at all times even when riding street. I use the crook of my thumb and palm to control the throttle with a sideways wrist motion. It's odd but has saved my but over the years. Having fingers over that front brake greatly reduces stoping distance.
Kevin, thanks again for another informative video. A few of my buddies caught their mistakes after viewing this.
as always great advice! My driveway is a dirt road, leaving a small highway at 90 degrees.. Every time I get home it's an emergency stop.. but seems I'm always reteaching myself hand position.. on the brakes asap, then off brakes before turning into the dirt. Thanks for this👍
I cover my brake with 2 or more fingers depending on the bike. 4 for a Harley (I've owned 3) and 2 for Brembo. But cover your front brake all the time and roll the throttle inside your thumb and fore finger. The throttle and brake become the same system.
This is one of your best and most useful videos this entire year. I hope you share this with your YT colleagues that attract macho kids as viewers... Since every one of them whiskey throttles in their first year(s).
I did that exact thing at 13 buying my first CL70 Honda scrambler. I twisted my wrist on the grip so I could throttle cool and bad-a-s and be The Fonz. I popped the clutch and whiskey throttled across that lawn and even popped as surprise wheelie on that sad worn out used CL70. Scared the piss out of me, and my dear Dad I'm sure.
I never did that again, but I still didn't realize why I did it then until today. Thanks Man.
That's a great way to think about it. Rather than the amount of time it takes to do something, think about the stopping distance. 11 metres means a lot more than half a second. Thanks for the great video, Kevin.
Thanks for the lesson!! Be safe out there.
Thanks Kevin great video I did this for yrs was always gassing in emergency brake your videos are great learning tool even for 30+ yr rider never too old to learn
Thats lesson no.1 i leaned 20 years ago, and became a habit.
once a bought a smaller size leather track jacket, at a full left turn in a parking i rolled the throttle but was fast enough to grab the clutch, so thats another reason.
Thank you Kevin
Thanks so much for all that u do Kevin and GOD Bless y’all, everyone please Ride Safe this weekend 😎🙏🏍🏍🏍
This isn't a problem, if you can't stop your bike with the brakes just lay it down, that way you'll be sure to hit whatever you're trying to avoid. Oh wait, there's folks that say you will stop faster if you lay the bike down. I'm thinking these folks aren't great at physics, but I could be wrong. Keep the good stuff coming Kevin.
Thanks Kevin. Something you should be doing out of habit.
If you learn to keep a finger or two on the lever at all times you avoid this completely because you're never at an angle where you can't reach. (Providing you have your levers adjusted to the right angle.) Fisting the throttle is the slowest reaction time, and it's easier to ride a brake while maneuvering if you already have fingers on the brake, and it's not a bad idea to finger the clutch as well. If you ride off-road you pretty much have to ride with your fingers on the clutch and brake in order to have access to them when you need them, you need them often.
Good tip. Thanks for making me think.
Never thought about that, makes perfect sense. Will pay close attention to my throttle habits from here on out. This was a really good one, thanks as always Mr MCrider. 👍🏼
I use a Crampbuster and keep it adjusted to reinforce that flat wrist position.
Amazingly, just like that. It all makes sense. Thank you for your continued contribution to safety!
Ha! I ride since 1982, never had this problem but worried about "how they made the jump when trying to break". Now I got it!
Thanks Kevin! I love your videos.
I just do the GP rider wrist flick with fingers covering the front brake. Let go of the throttle and let it snap back quickly on its own, as I'm pulling my fingers in and over the brake lever.
Uk viewers this is a life saver
Never had issues with it, but was taught to always cover the brake while throttling, using my thumb and palm to grip the throttle while rolling back having my fingers still in a position to roll over the brake if I have to release. Most the time at low speeds it allows me to have the break covered for quick braking. Not sure that makes sense, but yeah, I usually always have my fingers on the brakes and that's what the safety class taught in North Dallas.
I walk for recreation. My braking distance is 1 foot.
What I tend to do when moving is roll the throttle with my index finger and thumb with my fingers covering the brake lever. Getting off the throttle and on the brake is a lot quicker.
Thanks MCR. Great job. Good info.
Hello from England....always top videos fella...keep up the good work :)
This is meeee....ugh! I was the, "Look at this student and Do NOT do what she is doing!" Getting better, practicing better technique each day. THANKS and looking forward to next week's lesson.
The natural thing for me has always been. As the kick stand goes up and I put it in gear I'm applying pleasure to the front brakes so my wrist always starts horizontally. Just seemed natural for me. Strange that anyone would start with a bent wrist. Strange but True 👍👊
Now what about downshifting/rev matching while braking? I'd like to see a video on that. By the way love your stuff.
Doesn't take much throttle at all to blip or rev with the clutch open. If you have your levers adjusted right once pulled you should have more than enough movement in your wrist to blip. That is of course assuming that your bike doesn't have issues with too much play in the throttle or excessively muted response to throttle inputs like some of the "beginner" friendly bikes. For example, I can easily blip and brake on my BMW R1250GSA because the brakes are adjusted for a two-finger pull with full braking against my knuckles. If I start pulling the lever to brake there is more than enough room to twist the throttle an 1/8 of a turn to blip. KTM Duke 390 ADV will do it as well. The new Triumph has an odd delay in the throttle and a muted response that makes it much more difficult to downshift on the brakes, it takes more throttle input so four fingers on the lever make it easier than the two I would normally use. (I don't really like having to use more than two fingers, old habits from riding dirt.)
Basically, give it a try. Pull the clutch all the way in. Pull the brake lever to approximately where you would normally brake, then see how much you can wiggle your wrist without moving the lever. A blip is on the throttle for a fraction of a second, you don't need to move much or long.
Thank you, this is very useful information 👍🏻👍🏻
Valuable info. Thanks !
Thanks for your video.
*Thank you very much !* Having problems with this _while trail-braking_ ever since changing to fatter grips that also _actually GRIP_ my gloves!
Great info. It's easy to miss something so basic. Thanks, Kevin. Do you still have your GS?
Hi Kevin, maybe this is wrong/bad habit, but I frequently drive with one or two fingers over the front brake lever, and use the thumb and the 2/3 remaining fingers for clamping the throttle, specially in heavy traffic / less relaxed driving. In emergency braking, I apply pressure initially with the fingers in the brake, and bring the remaining over to apply further force.
A great reminder, thank you.
Thanks, Kevin. Keep 'em comin'...
Had to lower the brake lever small adjustment big improvement.
Great info, thank you.
Great timing. Happened to me at traffic lights. Fortunately I didn't panic but worrying that it happened
very good info
Hey brother I appreciate your passion for teaching mc safety
We have beautiful highway up here BC Canada
Have you made it up here yet?
Blessgs, Dave
Good information. Makes perfect sense. Great explanation. Cheers for your hard work as always!
Awesome video
Very impressive learn something new every time. Sir your absolutely rite!!
Thanks Kevin, this advise is Gold!
Never heard "Gloves sticking to the throttle", ever. Never even thought it myself. I'm gathering it's just an excuse they use to blame something other than themselves. But maybe I've just never experienced the issue.
Naw, if you expect the throttle to retract by itself, the folds in the glove will pinch against it, catching when they hurry to get the leverage on the brake.
You don't see it as often anymore but they used to make gloves with a sticky rubbery palm to increase grip. Worst invention ever. Shouldn't ever need more grip, most people need grip less.
The safety course I took way back when talked about riding with your hand in a "broken wrist" position.
You always come up with these things. Makes sense of course. But this is something that I have never done or thought about doing. Pre flexing my wrist?
Great reminder Kevin! Thank you! 😊
Awesome video, thanks for sharing :)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
Great advice as usual.
Two on two also helps and its hard to have an improper wrist position
Never made a comment on here but would just like to thank u Kevin such great advice on things even things I thought I was good at made me realize I was not🤣 again thanks for these great videos
Good points
Great information, again Kevin, thank you sir!
Good stuff 🙃😎
"Awesome."
Good info as usual Kevin! Thanks👍
Great advice
Helpful! Thanks!