You know what? I actually think Von Bolt's theme played by an actual orchestra could go pretty damn hard. I mean, the whole point of his theme is that instead of being a techno, upbeat theme like all the "youngsters" he hates so much have, he has a slow orchestra theme as a juxtaposition. So playing this theme with an actual orchestra could go a pretty long way (plus not having to sit through that slow beginning every turn is just a net positive).
Im a complete sucker for integrating the old theme in remixes so Power Sensei is just a dopamine cocktail for me That fact alone doesnt make it so, power sensei being swing jazz into rock is just unbelieveably engineered for enjoyment Whoever made that decision should run Intelligent Systems
it sucks that they nailed sensei but totally missed the mark on other songs, hawke is such an easy win it's upsetting that imo it's a downgrade from the old theme, and I really miss the super CO theme, it's my favourite track. I know it shows up for boss missions and that's great but that's pretty rare. Would be nice to have a toggle or maybe it randomly picks between CO alt and the generic super theme. Idk.
So, Clone Andys glowing eyes made me think, since all the Black Hole Troops also has the glowing eyes... Are all of Black Holes soldiers clones? It feels like it makes sense for them? But that raises the question: Since Flak has been promoted to his position, is he hiding some slightly glow-y blue eyes under that red pair of goggles? Also, the Black Hole Trooper is the BEST trooper.
I always had a headcanon of Black Hole being a nation that secretly integrated aliens and humans into their government, unlike the rest of the world, and Black Hole needs resources!! The allied nations, of course, just casually dismiss the reality of aliens living among them because let's just face it... that's not even in the top five weird things about this franchise.
@@OriginalGameteer oh Sturm is absolutely either a Robot or N Alien, and with his infantry and mechanical looking very alien in the reboot id say he was an alien.
I think it's confirmed that he's an alien in the original games because it's a detail I remember from playing them when they first released. I was surprised that there's no actual mention of it in the remakes unless I missed a throw away line somewhere.
Yeah Hawke doesn't give the feeling of "I have wasted enough time, away with you" which is what I would expect from a SCOP that took all game to charge.
I think they actually did reference Sturm blowing smoke in the reboot, but specifically in his Meteor Strike animation. After smoke launches out of the joints on his robot hand, a plume of smoke also bursts out the front of his mask.
37:24 I think that the implications of the Power Theme for Clone Andy are what make it more interesting. Nell, at the tutorial, said that the CO's power comes from the heart. Taking the ones from other characters (including the bad guys) we can see that they are more upbeat. This could be a way to tell their emotion/excitement in that moment. Power Clone Andy's theme it's different from them, because it sounds like it's devoid of any kind of emotion. This could represent the fact that Clone Andy is no more than a shell, an empty husk that uses the body of Andy to stand still. I really love the details that this franchise has.
I don't agree with a lot of these of course, but Sensei's Power theme... how the hell did they even come up with that? When I look at my soundtrack uploads, that one stands _two_ heads and shoulders above everything else in terms of the metrics. It's not even close to close...
Btw, thanks for uploading the soundtrack! Do you think it would be possible to upload the power themes, but only the music? Like, for example on Sensei, without the "Copter Command! Plink plink plink plink plink"?
How dare you create a long form video about something I didn’t really know anything about and yet I will still watch it smh, but honestly been enjoying the long form content
sturm: “cloned like an evil and messed up version of an orange star co. Just a look into my twisted perspective, a full stare would make most simply go insane lol”
I think you're wrong about Grit's power theme. It's meant to sound more powerful because that's when Grit feels like its about time to take his opponent down "Reckon its time to take you down" - Grit. While he's shelling his opponents to hell n back, he normally has his feet up and possibly asleep, but when he uses his power, that's he starts taking things seriously.
Honestly, Olaf's power just gave me oldschool Red Alert Hell March vibes with the choir and heavy guitar. I felt like they were going for that given Olaf and Blue Moon's role when you first meet him. I think that's a neat reference if it's true. Big agree on Sami being a miss. I was thinking the same thing, it needed boot marching and maybe some troop chants to fit her identity.
The only thing I have against Gold Comet being named Gold Comet is it sounds a bit weird when I’m used to it being Yellow Comet, but even then, I’ve gotten used to it so it’s not really an issue
@@KD8_NotTheShoes More like "lets not get Twitter being stupid on us". Because I doubt Intelligent Systems (a Japanese developer) wanted to be racist towards themselves when they made Yellow Comet a pseudo-Japan.
@@Teknanam Nintendo is absolutely capable of being racist against itself - see Punch-Out for example - but I do think it probably hits different if you're an American dev asked to reboot the games.
@@bld9826 What was racist about Piston Honda/Hondo? Especially in the original Japanese games. I don't remember anything offensive about him compared to say Glass Joe or Vodka Drunkinski/Soda Popinski. I do agree though that Wayforward were probably the ones who put forward the idea of renaming Yellow Comet.
@@Teknanam I'm guessing they mean the bit in the NES game where Hondo babbles nonsense. "Sushi, kamikaze, fujiyama, nipponichi..." It's just this one bit, otherwise he's coherent, and in English.
When I first heard Andy's theme, the Six Flags commercials with the old dancing man started playing in my head for some reason. I was also hoping Sami's CO them would have been either a military march or Fortunate Son just starts playing. You speak about Lash looking too different, but Drake used to look like a monkey. Also... Andy: How is this clone better than me? Clone Andy: I know what an airport, seaport, and strategy are. Everyone's eyes go wide in horror.
Sonja's Power CO theme is the one that's stuck out to me the most. There's just something so- sinister, about savely nestling your units in the woods and reefs, only for her to proc power, and you get slaughtered by bass boosted Rockets and artillery from 2 mountains and 3 forests back :3
olaf was also done dirty, his theme was already good in the original, but in the remake, his theme is even better, and the power theme is one of the best in the whole game
@@burningfiregames6015 i could tell they weren't into metal given the other rankings. otherwise ranking olaf's power theme that low is so sinful because for me its at least my top 3 favorite themes from the entire game
10:39 Couldn't agree more with your take on Double Time. I mean- it's right in the fricking name, and they didn't utilize it in the music at all. It's the same tempo! It's supposed to be _Double Time,_ people! Move it, move it, move it! More eighth notes! More sixteenths! If there's any song that should've resembled Darude- Sandstorm itself, it should've been fricking Double Time! Pick up the pace! Keep those feet moving, soldiers!!!
Most COs have 6 themes but there seem to be a few exceptions, Olaf has an alternate theme on Toybox so that gives him 9 themes, also Sturm has alternate themes depending on which game he’s in (Advance Wars 1 or 2 reboot camp not the originals) so if I’m not mistaken he has 9 as well though there may be more if I’m not mistaken
Where do you get six? Do the power themes have menu and battle variations I haven't noticed? Also I didn't know Olaf had a different theme on Toy Box why haven't I heard anything about that anywhere
@@brolytriplethreat Yeah, whenever you’re in a base/dock/airport menu the main melodic instrument cuts out. I wouldn’t call it a different theme, though. It’s just one dynamic theme.
Can we all collectively agree that Hawke’s theme mainly lost points because the alarm and Super Power noise at the start aren’t present? That did so much to set the tone for Hawke in the original!
For those who wanted more out of the soundtrack from The Origami King, go look up the soundtrack for Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. , also from Intelligent Systems and composed by the person who composed for Days of Ruin.
I really like Drake's power theme, I'd say it feels like a "nice weather after the storm", which is exactly what his power is, technically. Still think his normal theme is better though.
We definitely have different taste in music. I love Max and Grit's themes and am pretty meh on Sonja's. I'm also not big on club music, so the dance style remixes don't really do it for me
@@whichDude sonya yes I agree with u because I am not a fan of classical music but Drakes theme is definitely one of the best in the game easy too 5 themes imo.
Personally, I have to disagree on Grit's placement, I think it's way better. The chill, relaxed vibe while enemies walk into a kill zone is just chef's kiss.
My favorite CO theme in the OG was Colin because it has that “toy soldier” vibe. In the remake… while I adore Paper Mario, I don’t like it as much. But with how impetuous and silly it sounds I still love it.
They really did my boy Hawke dirty in this "glow up" that is RBC, and that just bums me out. Meanwhile for Sturm, I actually LIKE what they did, but I do still like the original more. They basically forgot to match the badass-ness of the original, but then gave it a bunch more going on that gives it a serious kick. I would argue that it's... on par, honestly, but then that sort of foils the expectations, because you WANT "New" to surpass "Old," right? *THEN THERE'S "FINAL STURM" AS YOU GUYS PUT IT...* Holy shit...
For Lash, what immediately jumped out to me is they changed her eyes from downturned to upturned, or tare-me to tsuri-me, which gives a very different initial impression from the character design. Generally in Japanese media those different types of eyes are associated with different character traits or assumptions of traits. For the weebs out there think about the difference in appearance and character between Tsukasa and Kagami in Lucky Star, Ryou and Kyou in Clannad, or Tsukihi and Karen in Monogatari. Taking Lash from a Tsukihi to a Karen in design really changes how her character comes off.
How dare u disrespect The Big Bad Sturm like that, his theme deserves to be much higher than underwhelming, this is exactly what I was expecting from him, actually its better than what I was expecting, his theme just screams final boss, it definitely devers to be atleast at the top of pre good, his aw2 version is definitely the bottom of absolutely amazing I agree with u there.
I'm going to be honest, both of Hawke's themes should be in the bottom of Underwhelming. They just really don't sound good at all to me. His theme peaked in Dual Strike, and I can't be convinced.
Nah, eagles power theme is super good. Makes me picture him flying top gun style through the air. And it still retains enough identity, it just adds the exitement of flying
I find it very interesting how the best thing to come out of this remake is the music. Everything else is just, well, there. This shows how good the soundtrack in the original game was.
Sensei and his new disciple (anyone has played Advance Wars Story romhack will know what I meant) are together. What a twist that I didn't expect, but very well deserved. I'm also happy that you guys appreciate my idol/soul mate Sonja's theme. They forgot to add the alarm sound to Hawke theme and it's so underwhelming to me. They removed the finger snap in Grit's theme, so underwhelming.
The Twinkles on the Orange Star COs theme fit with the ''Stars'' theme around each nation. Nell having the most Twinkles because shes the Leader, Sami Having Twinkles because she's a orange star CO Its like a motif. But I Agree her personality of Tomboyish, Foot soldier expert they should have done something different but well, They cant get things always right yeah? Also each nation has a Motif for some reason Gold Comet has Oriental Music and Sounds(Japanese Choir and Instruments) kanbei having the most Oriental instrumentation, Sonja being a Newer Generation she has some more modern but still retaining the oriental sound scheme, And Sensei being an Old Timer (and also a nod to us the veterans) he has a jazzy, samba and bossa nova inspired theme, Because japan in the 40s,50s,60s had a lot of Influence from A lotta cultures European and South Americans. Blue moon has the Eastern Europe Motif, Snow, Piano and Chimes because snow for some reason, Grit doesnt fit really well into blue moon(Alas he was Orange Star before AW1) Thats why hes a Cowboy LIke, he would belong to Orange Star. Colin is the Naive Theme but Strong Willed and Hard Working albeit having a lot of money. Green Earth is more Like Europe In General, Them having Guitars and stuff its because Literally British, Germans Bands born from there. Thats why Jess and Eagle have Such a strong Guitar and Drums Motif. Also I dunno what they did to Black Hole Motif, It was supposed to be a distorted, Darker, Synthesized more music. Because Black Hole is mostly Alien and Evil(Look at the black hole units they all look like something straight from a scifi movie). I didnt like what they did to Hawke theme and Sturm. it sounds less intimidating than the GBA versions. Hawke Theme sounded like a dangerous and calculating foe. Sturm Sounded Exactly like He was. A Power Driven Dictator That wouldnt spare no expense and no one to achieve his Goal. They adding silly wub dub on top of those Themes was eww at most.. They could have gone for a more ''Dark'' and synthesized music to them. To sound more alien and darker. Still liked they did a clone andy theme The Flak Theme is Ok, Flak Power Theme had the exact motif from Black Hole Super SCOP on the GBA. Lash isnt really a black hole, she joined black Hole only for Fun. Her fun is inventing things and things going Kaboom. Thats why Her theme sounds so goofy apart from the other BH Cast. Adder theme is cool. If they ever remake Dual Strike, I hope they make clone themes for each cloned CO. And I HOPE they Dont butcher Jake's Theme
Jess had the single best theme in the original games imo, and the reboot absolutely fucked it up. A bunch of the other themes are great, Sensei's obviously, but Jess had a metal-music-you'd-hear-in-a-military-motorpool vibe to it, with the torque wrench, impact gun, metal on metal. Now it's just so lifeless imo.
clone andy is the best thing to come out of this remake, I feel Sarah Williams influenced the design on lash hard which is fine. Adder's theme is kinda weak in this, because the percussion used to carry it sounds like marching troops which fits his theme HARD i'll give it up for his power theme thankgod someone who feels Sturm's new theme sounds bad. I was awe struck 20 years ago like i couldn't beat it because of that lol.
here's an idea to improve sami power theme. incorporate a marching band into the original/normal theme. since you know, she is a infantry specialist and with the marching theme having it feel she march forward with her soldier (mostly mech). could be a cool remix
you can tell that the music and art team fav CO is sensei, which would make sense in Japanese culture lol they do always have mad respect for their elders ps i was always biased to lash because she is my fav CO, she is kinda weird now with her updated looks but i do like the crazy elements they added to her animation when she does massive damage or gets a kill but i will never put her theme above sensei even with my bias lol i also prefer the version of blue moons theme from AW2 to me it seems more developed and slower paced which suits the message even more than the new version which seems busier for my taste, those violins though are a nice touch
Switch remake? Wow. I love this game on my old GBA. And Old soundtrack is also great… especially if we consider tech back then. Pokemon or Heroes of Might and Magic 3 could ad music based mostly on 3 sounds/instruments. For such limited palete, they made exeptional job.
The Super CO wasn't meant for focusing on one CO like they went with its supposed to represent the 4 allied nations to come together to defeat a greater threat, The Super CO theme was awesome for that reason so I disagree. They can easily keep the badass music like andy's theme on his CO power so that way it's still there. Yellow Comet > Gold Comet
I would have stopped the video if Andy's Power did not go top tier. Now I can watch the rest of the video. Surely both of Sensei's themes would be up there too.
My only critique with the AW Reboot OST is Virt didn't contribute to it. Could you imagine a "Kaufman Cut" of this soundtrack ala Crypt of the Necrodancer?! EDIT: The more I think about it, Tommy Pedrini collab'd with Jake Kaufman for quite awhile, so maybe this is the best we got
I'm watching this video at 1.5x speed and Grits theme sounds awesome like that. They could just have sped up his normal theme and it would have made a better power theme.
It's not just her clothes, it's her face that's extremely different. Eyes changed from curved downward to pointed upwards (this may seem like a small thing if you're unfamiliar with it but it has a huge impact on how a character comes across visually) and the heavy eyeliner especially. The hair is much less swept back compared to the DS portrait as well (which is the one I'm the most used to). The buckles and straps all over her jacket definitely don't help though. She's gone from pale evil scientist who doesn't care about her appearance to a goth clubber.
@@Evilmon2 I have no Idea what you mean about the direction of the eyes pointing, they're just round in both older games. The eyeliner and the presence of the slight bangs just seem to bits incorporated from the Advance Wars 2 design (like the belts actually, though they aren't a different color from the rest of the coat in 2).
you did Power of Max dirty. I hated Max's theme until I heard power of max, and it retroactively makes his normal theme BETTER. Still good to see Drake get his due, though.
hawkes power face at the bottom of underwhelming makes me laugh and cry so much, the only real Botchjob in the Remake, i appriciate how they tried but it's missing key features aswell as that extra Oomph
If you ask me the only correct way to play the sea fortress mission is to use the bombers and fighters to prevent your copters from getting first striked by your opponent’s copters.
Now lets hope the game does well enough for Dual Strike DLC, we need an updated Grimm's theme
Yesss plzzz
Grimm's theme is cool but really needs that modern enhancement, too compressed or something. And don't forget Kindle, Rachel and JAKE let's gooooo.
You know what? I actually think Von Bolt's theme played by an actual orchestra could go pretty damn hard.
I mean, the whole point of his theme is that instead of being a techno, upbeat theme like all the "youngsters" he hates so much have, he has a slow orchestra theme as a juxtaposition.
So playing this theme with an actual orchestra could go a pretty long way (plus not having to sit through that slow beginning every turn is just a net positive).
@@Ctrekoz and sasha
Absolutely haha
Im a complete sucker for integrating the old theme in remixes so Power Sensei is just a dopamine cocktail for me
That fact alone doesnt make it so, power sensei being swing jazz into rock is just unbelieveably engineered for enjoyment
Whoever made that decision should run Intelligent Systems
You must love primal kyogre/groudons themes
it sucks that they nailed sensei but totally missed the mark on other songs, hawke is such an easy win it's upsetting that imo it's a downgrade from the old theme, and I really miss the super CO theme, it's my favourite track. I know it shows up for boss missions and that's great but that's pretty rare. Would be nice to have a toggle or maybe it randomly picks between CO alt and the generic super theme. Idk.
So, Clone Andys glowing eyes made me think, since all the Black Hole Troops also has the glowing eyes... Are all of Black Holes soldiers clones? It feels like it makes sense for them?
But that raises the question: Since Flak has been promoted to his position, is he hiding some slightly glow-y blue eyes under that red pair of goggles?
Also, the Black Hole Trooper is the BEST trooper.
Considering it's not exactly clear if Sturm is even human... it's REALLY weird as to what the Black Hole people even *are*
I always had a headcanon of Black Hole being a nation that secretly integrated aliens and humans into their government, unlike the rest of the world, and Black Hole needs resources!! The allied nations, of course, just casually dismiss the reality of aliens living among them because let's just face it... that's not even in the top five weird things about this franchise.
Yes they are absolutely clones, they why they don't care about their troops.
@@OriginalGameteer oh Sturm is absolutely either a Robot or N Alien, and with his infantry and mechanical looking very alien in the reboot id say he was an alien.
I think it's confirmed that he's an alien in the original games because it's a detail I remember from playing them when they first released. I was surprised that there's no actual mention of it in the remakes unless I missed a throw away line somewhere.
Yeah Hawke doesn't give the feeling of "I have wasted enough time, away with you"
which is what I would expect from a SCOP that took all game to charge.
I think they actually did reference Sturm blowing smoke in the reboot, but specifically in his Meteor Strike animation. After smoke launches out of the joints on his robot hand, a plume of smoke also bursts out the front of his mask.
37:24 I think that the implications of the Power Theme for Clone Andy are what make it more interesting.
Nell, at the tutorial, said that the CO's power comes from the heart. Taking the ones from other characters (including the bad guys) we can see that they are more upbeat. This could be a way to tell their emotion/excitement in that moment.
Power Clone Andy's theme it's different from them, because it sounds like it's devoid of any kind of emotion. This could represent the fact that Clone Andy is no more than a shell, an empty husk that uses the body of Andy to stand still.
I really love the details that this franchise has.
I don't agree with a lot of these of course, but Sensei's Power theme... how the hell did they even come up with that? When I look at my soundtrack uploads, that one stands _two_ heads and shoulders above everything else in terms of the metrics. It's not even close to close...
A agree with everything u have said.
Its easily the biggest glowup innthe entire soundtrack. It just blows every other piece in the OST out of the water.
Btw, thanks for uploading the soundtrack! Do you think it would be possible to upload the power themes, but only the music? Like, for example on Sensei, without the "Copter Command! Plink plink plink plink plink"?
How dare you create a long form video about something I didn’t really know anything about and yet I will still watch it smh, but honestly been enjoying the long form content
How dare you be a subscriber of Fatguy703 but don't know much about Advance Wars /j
That means it is time for you to play Advance Wars
@@Cendrail0001 but I have no interests in war
@@SherbertTheSherb What do you mean war, this is clearly a board game
@@Cendrail0001 are you ignoring the tanks and shit
sturm: “cloned like an evil and messed up version of an orange star co. Just a look into my twisted perspective, a full stare would make most simply go insane lol”
Marching drums would've absolutely elevated Sami Power to the next level, you're completely right.
The sounds of infantry marching in step would have been great too.
I think you're wrong about Grit's power theme. It's meant to sound more powerful because that's when Grit feels like its about time to take his opponent down "Reckon its time to take you down" - Grit. While he's shelling his opponents to hell n back, he normally has his feet up and possibly asleep, but when he uses his power, that's he starts taking things seriously.
I also like that they kept the tempo the same, sets up a vibe for grit putting more effort, but still keeping his cool
Honestly, Olaf's power just gave me oldschool Red Alert Hell March vibes with the choir and heavy guitar. I felt like they were going for that given Olaf and Blue Moon's role when you first meet him. I think that's a neat reference if it's true.
Big agree on Sami being a miss. I was thinking the same thing, it needed boot marching and maybe some troop chants to fit her identity.
The only thing I have against Gold Comet being named Gold Comet is it sounds a bit weird when I’m used to it being Yellow Comet, but even then, I’ve gotten used to it so it’s not really an issue
Im pretty sure it was a "lets not be racist" thing
@@KD8_NotTheShoes
More like "lets not get Twitter being stupid on us". Because I doubt Intelligent Systems (a Japanese developer) wanted to be racist towards themselves when they made Yellow Comet a pseudo-Japan.
@@Teknanam Nintendo is absolutely capable of being racist against itself - see Punch-Out for example - but I do think it probably hits different if you're an American dev asked to reboot the games.
@@bld9826
What was racist about Piston Honda/Hondo? Especially in the original Japanese games. I don't remember anything offensive about him compared to say Glass Joe or Vodka Drunkinski/Soda Popinski.
I do agree though that Wayforward were probably the ones who put forward the idea of renaming Yellow Comet.
@@Teknanam I'm guessing they mean the bit in the NES game where Hondo babbles nonsense.
"Sushi, kamikaze, fujiyama, nipponichi..."
It's just this one bit, otherwise he's coherent, and in English.
The Keychange of Adders Power Theme ist amazing
Yeah I absolutely love how it changes the mood or it
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When I first heard Andy's theme, the Six Flags commercials with the old dancing man started playing in my head for some reason.
I was also hoping Sami's CO them would have been either a military march or Fortunate Son just starts playing.
You speak about Lash looking too different, but Drake used to look like a monkey.
Also...
Andy: How is this clone better than me?
Clone Andy: I know what an airport, seaport, and strategy are.
Everyone's eyes go wide in horror.
Sonja's Power CO theme is the one that's stuck out to me the most. There's just something so- sinister, about savely nestling your units in the woods and reefs, only for her to proc power, and you get slaughtered by bass boosted Rockets and artillery from 2 mountains and 3 forests back :3
I like how eagles co power theme just turns into f-zero.
Cant understand the Max thing, the Max theme in this game is an absolute banger.
That's also what I think
olaf was also done dirty, his theme was already good in the original, but in the remake, his theme is even better, and the power theme is one of the best in the whole game
@@burningfiregames6015 Olafs theme just radiates power. When that theme starts up in his mission in his hometown versus Lash it just screams raw fury.
@@burningfiregames6015 i could tell they weren't into metal given the other rankings. otherwise ranking olaf's power theme that low is so sinful because for me its at least my top 3 favorite themes from the entire game
I never expected Clone Andy to get such a cool theme, but here we are.
If they boosted the bass on Jess’s theme it could be so good
Eagles guitar solo on his super power is fantastic
10:39 Couldn't agree more with your take on Double Time. I mean- it's right in the fricking name, and they didn't utilize it in the music at all. It's the same tempo!
It's supposed to be _Double Time,_ people! Move it, move it, move it! More eighth notes! More sixteenths! If there's any song that should've resembled Darude- Sandstorm itself, it should've been fricking Double Time! Pick up the pace! Keep those feet moving, soldiers!!!
Adder's theme is for sure fantastic because they used Days of Ruin Instruments.
Most COs have 6 themes but there seem to be a few exceptions, Olaf has an alternate theme on Toybox so that gives him 9 themes, also Sturm has alternate themes depending on which game he’s in (Advance Wars 1 or 2 reboot camp not the originals) so if I’m not mistaken he has 9 as well though there may be more if I’m not mistaken
Sturm pfp nation rise up
Where do you get six? Do the power themes have menu and battle variations I haven't noticed? Also I didn't know Olaf had a different theme on Toy Box why haven't I heard anything about that anywhere
@@brolytriplethreat Yeah, whenever you’re in a base/dock/airport menu the main melodic instrument cuts out. I wouldn’t call it a different theme, though. It’s just one dynamic theme.
@Filet o’ Fish yeah but does that apply to the Power version because otherwise how does that add up to six
@@brolytriplethreat I think it does
Can we all collectively agree that Hawke’s theme mainly lost points because the alarm and Super Power noise at the start aren’t present? That did so much to set the tone for Hawke in the original!
still doesn't even feel real that a remake was even made, and to be so well done is just amazing.
The thing I disagree the most with is Sturm's theme, I personally think his CO normal theme is fantastic and CO power in pretty good.
I disgaree on Jess's theme
I fell in love with the remix when i first heard it, i think its great
Meanwhile, I actually think they went easy on it. :P
I’m so happy you decided to play the AW games, because I hadn’t heard of the series before
We need advance wars 3 and the return of Sturm.
Just bought Reboot camp a couple of days ago and i'm slowly becoming obssesed with this franchise.
I'm glad I am not the only one that went crazy with that...drop? Adder gets in the power theme. Its a simple change that makes the song fantastic
For those who wanted more out of the soundtrack from The Origami King, go look up the soundtrack for Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. , also from Intelligent Systems and composed by the person who composed for Days of Ruin.
Oalf's Power theme reminds me a whole lot of DK Topical Freezes ost with like Punch Bowl and Big Top Bop with the guitars added intensity.
Grit’s theme is top-tier.
I really like Drake's power theme, I'd say it feels like a "nice weather after the storm", which is exactly what his power is, technically.
Still think his normal theme is better though.
We definitely have different taste in music. I love Max and Grit's themes and am pretty meh on Sonja's. I'm also not big on club music, so the dance style remixes don't really do it for me
Same. Both Eagle themes are amazing to me, and I was shocked Sonja and Drake themes made it so high.
@@whichDude sonya yes I agree with u because I am not a fan of classical music but Drakes theme is definitely one of the best in the game easy too 5 themes imo.
Personally, I have to disagree on Grit's placement, I think it's way better. The chill, relaxed vibe while enemies walk into a kill zone is just chef's kiss.
My favorite CO theme in the OG was Colin because it has that “toy soldier” vibe. In the remake… while I adore Paper Mario, I don’t like it as much. But with how impetuous and silly it sounds I still love it.
Sturm's theme is great. I couldn't agree less.
They really did my boy Hawke dirty in this "glow up" that is RBC, and that just bums me out.
Meanwhile for Sturm, I actually LIKE what they did, but I do still like the original more. They basically forgot to match the badass-ness of the original, but then gave it a bunch more going on that gives it a serious kick. I would argue that it's... on par, honestly, but then that sort of foils the expectations, because you WANT "New" to surpass "Old," right?
*THEN THERE'S "FINAL STURM" AS YOU GUYS PUT IT...* Holy shit...
The Sitar for Adder's theme is really good, Sturm's theme is great but it lacked the intimidation the gba had.
For Lash, what immediately jumped out to me is they changed her eyes from downturned to upturned, or tare-me to tsuri-me, which gives a very different initial impression from the character design. Generally in Japanese media those different types of eyes are associated with different character traits or assumptions of traits. For the weebs out there think about the difference in appearance and character between Tsukasa and Kagami in Lucky Star, Ryou and Kyou in Clannad, or Tsukihi and Karen in Monogatari. Taking Lash from a Tsukihi to a Karen in design really changes how her character comes off.
Sturms theme in Underwhelming got me boutta throw hands
I really agree with placing Jess's theme in underwhelming, doesn't even come close to topping the AWDS version
How dare u disrespect The Big Bad Sturm like that, his theme deserves to be much higher than underwhelming, this is exactly what I was expecting from him, actually its better than what I was expecting, his theme just screams final boss, it definitely devers to be atleast at the top of pre good, his aw2 version is definitely the bottom of absolutely amazing I agree with u there.
Lash theme: "how do you feel about her upgrad..updated design?"
killed me hahaha
Oh yeah its the guy that ripped the soundtrack, thanks again for that
I bought this game because of your enthusiasm towards this game
Putting Eagle and Sami above Olaf and Max? Now that's a warcrime.
Sturm sweep!
This is truly the age of big brick shithouse villains
I'm going to be honest, both of Hawke's themes should be in the bottom of Underwhelming. They just really don't sound good at all to me. His theme peaked in Dual Strike, and I can't be convinced.
Nah, eagles power theme is super good. Makes me picture him flying top gun style through the air. And it still retains enough identity, it just adds the exitement of flying
I low-key think you could argue base Drake is actually Absolutely Amazing.
Power Kanbei, and normal Grit got CHEATED here though haha.
I find it very interesting how the best thing to come out of this remake is the music. Everything else is just, well, there. This shows how good the soundtrack in the original game was.
Sensei and his new disciple (anyone has played Advance Wars Story romhack will know what I meant) are together. What a twist that I didn't expect, but very well deserved.
I'm also happy that you guys appreciate my idol/soul mate Sonja's theme.
They forgot to add the alarm sound to Hawke theme and it's so underwhelming to me.
They removed the finger snap in Grit's theme, so underwhelming.
The Twinkles on the Orange Star COs theme fit with the ''Stars'' theme around each nation. Nell having the most Twinkles because shes the Leader, Sami Having Twinkles because she's a orange star CO Its like a motif. But I Agree her personality of Tomboyish, Foot soldier expert they should have done something different but well, They cant get things always right yeah?
Also each nation has a Motif for some reason
Gold Comet has Oriental Music and Sounds(Japanese Choir and Instruments) kanbei having the most Oriental instrumentation, Sonja being a Newer Generation she has some more modern but still retaining the oriental sound scheme, And Sensei being an Old Timer (and also a nod to us the veterans) he has a jazzy, samba and bossa nova inspired theme, Because japan in the 40s,50s,60s had a lot of Influence from A lotta cultures European and South Americans.
Blue moon has the Eastern Europe Motif, Snow, Piano and Chimes because snow for some reason, Grit doesnt fit really well into blue moon(Alas he was Orange Star before AW1) Thats why hes a Cowboy LIke, he would belong to Orange Star. Colin is the Naive Theme but Strong Willed and Hard Working albeit having a lot of money.
Green Earth is more Like Europe In General, Them having Guitars and stuff its because Literally British, Germans Bands born from there. Thats why Jess and Eagle have Such a strong Guitar and Drums Motif.
Also I dunno what they did to Black Hole Motif, It was supposed to be a distorted, Darker, Synthesized more music. Because Black Hole is mostly Alien and Evil(Look at the black hole units they all look like something straight from a scifi movie). I didnt like what they did to Hawke theme and Sturm. it sounds less intimidating than the GBA versions.
Hawke Theme sounded like a dangerous and calculating foe.
Sturm Sounded Exactly like He was. A Power Driven Dictator That wouldnt spare no expense and no one to achieve his Goal.
They adding silly wub dub on top of those Themes was eww at most.. They could have gone for a more ''Dark'' and synthesized music to them. To sound more alien and darker.
Still liked they did a clone andy theme
The Flak Theme is Ok, Flak Power Theme had the exact motif from Black Hole Super SCOP on the GBA.
Lash isnt really a black hole, she joined black Hole only for Fun. Her fun is inventing things and things going Kaboom. Thats why Her theme sounds so goofy apart from the other BH Cast.
Adder theme is cool.
If they ever remake Dual Strike, I hope they make clone themes for each cloned CO. And I HOPE they Dont butcher Jake's Theme
This is my OST of the year for sure.
they did Jess’s normal theme dirty
Great video!
Jess had the single best theme in the original games imo, and the reboot absolutely fucked it up. A bunch of the other themes are great, Sensei's obviously, but Jess had a metal-music-you'd-hear-in-a-military-motorpool vibe to it, with the torque wrench, impact gun, metal on metal. Now it's just so lifeless imo.
clone andy is the best thing to come out of this remake, I feel Sarah Williams influenced the design on lash hard which is fine.
Adder's theme is kinda weak in this, because the percussion used to carry it sounds like marching troops which fits his theme HARD i'll give it up for his power theme thankgod someone who feels Sturm's new theme sounds bad. I was awe struck 20 years ago like i couldn't beat it because of that lol.
here's an idea to improve sami power theme. incorporate a marching band into the original/normal theme. since you know, she is a infantry specialist and with the marching theme having it feel she march forward with her soldier (mostly mech). could be a cool remix
Sturm's theme was exactly what I expected
It's basically just Sturm's theme
Final Front was better than expected
I’ve only started playing this, but Andy’s hyper repair theme instantly became the favorite of mine so far.
You cannot go wrong with more eurobeat~
Power Drake in underwhelming is a war crime.
I honestly wish Drake's power theme leaned harder into the Sea Chanty vibes
53:30 "This isn't even my final Sturm!"
Can't wait for you to make a review of the game
you can tell that the music and art team fav CO is sensei, which would make sense in Japanese culture lol they do always have mad respect for their elders ps i was always biased to lash because she is my fav CO, she is kinda weird now with her updated looks but i do like the crazy elements they added to her animation when she does massive damage or gets a kill but i will never put her theme above sensei even with my bias lol
i also prefer the version of blue moons theme from AW2 to me it seems more developed and slower paced which suits the message even more than the new version which seems busier for my taste, those violins though are a nice touch
Switch remake? Wow. I love this game on my old GBA. And Old soundtrack is also great… especially if we consider tech back then. Pokemon or Heroes of Might and Magic 3 could ad music based mostly on 3 sounds/instruments. For such limited palete, they made exeptional job.
Sounds like the music alone is worth the purchase
I am shocked and apalled that CO Power Grit didn't go into Underwhelming. Look how they massacred my boy!
The Super CO wasn't meant for focusing on one CO like they went with its supposed to represent the 4 allied nations to come together to defeat a greater threat, The Super CO theme was awesome for that reason so I disagree. They can easily keep the badass music like andy's theme on his CO power so that way it's still there.
Yellow Comet > Gold Comet
Sturm's power theme is S tier. Do the R button info tab during it. You're welcome.
I would have stopped the video if Andy's Power did not go top tier. Now I can watch the rest of the video. Surely both of Sensei's themes would be up there too.
My only critique with the AW Reboot OST is Virt didn't contribute to it. Could you imagine a "Kaufman Cut" of this soundtrack ala Crypt of the Necrodancer?!
EDIT: The more I think about it, Tommy Pedrini collab'd with Jake Kaufman for quite awhile, so maybe this is the best we got
You killed me at the Sturm meme template
28:17 because orange star is red star in the japanese localization.
andy "what is an airport"
nell "lash's forehead Andy..."
PSA i love lash but im torn between classic lash/DS lash and this new one lol
I'm watching this video at 1.5x speed and Grits theme sounds awesome like that. They could just have sped up his normal theme and it would have made a better power theme.
Grit really wants to get a break of that KitKat bar
41:03 Updated design? That's just her Dual Strike design, they just gave her a belt and made the shoulders/collar of her jacket a different color.
It's not just her clothes, it's her face that's extremely different. Eyes changed from curved downward to pointed upwards (this may seem like a small thing if you're unfamiliar with it but it has a huge impact on how a character comes across visually) and the heavy eyeliner especially. The hair is much less swept back compared to the DS portrait as well (which is the one I'm the most used to). The buckles and straps all over her jacket definitely don't help though. She's gone from pale evil scientist who doesn't care about her appearance to a goth clubber.
@@Evilmon2 I have no Idea what you mean about the direction of the eyes pointing, they're just round in both older games. The eyeliner and the presence of the slight bangs just seem to bits incorporated from the Advance Wars 2 design (like the belts actually, though they aren't a different color from the rest of the coat in 2).
Great list, BUT Grit’s normal theme should have been a bit higher imo.
Omg that Sensei theme is freaking amazing 😍😍😍
Would you please make a ranking for combat variant?
Re-boot Camp music slaps
Hey @fatguy703 did you stream any of the reboot? I can’t see any record of you playing it here on yt.
CONSOULS SWEEP !!
@TheConsoulsBand shredded Sensei theme
Hawke's theme was my biggest disappointment personally, not enough vrooooooooom
That being said most of the themes are incredible.
I've listened to a some themes and my favs are Adder's power, Sturm's theme, Clone Andy's theme And Sensei''s Power,
Adder just go so fucking hard
I Like Lash Power theme even more ^^
I'm just curious why you haven't done a playthrough on the channel on advance wars
They have. On AW and AW2 around last year or so.
@@douglashtang oh, the originals in guessing?
Adders theme isn't a key change, they changed the backing harmony.
you did Power of Max dirty.
I hated Max's theme until I heard power of max, and it retroactively makes his normal theme BETTER.
Still good to see Drake get his due, though.
Adder has the best power activation. SIDEWIDER HAHAHAAHAHAH.
hawkes power face at the bottom of underwhelming makes me laugh and cry so much, the only real Botchjob in the Remake, i appriciate how they tried but it's missing key features aswell as that extra Oomph
If you ask me the only correct way to play the sea fortress mission is to use the bombers and fighters to prevent your copters from getting first striked by your opponent’s copters.
36:43 That makes me wonder, Is Normal Andy Afraid of ladybugs or It's just the Clone? Given Andy's track record it can go either way.
Can't really understand the fascination with the Eurobeat Andy theme.